It's Official: Tom Cable No Longer the Head Coach of the Oakland Raiders
by LiveAdam on Jan 4, 2011 7:36 PM PST
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Raiders.com is reporting that the Oakland Raiders have not picked up the multi-year option on Tom Cable's contract and that he is no longer the head coach of the Oakland Raiders.
The Oakland Raiders will not extend the contract of Tom Cable for the position of Head Coach.
Cable was informed that his contract would not be extended on Tuesday.
Cable, whose contract expired at the conclusion of the 2010 season, posted a 17-27 regular season record as Head Coach of the Raiders. He served as offensive line coach for the Raiders from 2007-September 30, 2008, when he was named interim head coach.
The Raiders express gratitude to Tom Cable for his contributions in his four seasons as an assistant and as Head Coach of the Silver and Black.
This is a terribly dangerous game Mr. Davis is playing. The great majority of the players, outside of maybe Jason Campbell, fully supported Coach Cable and played hard for him, and the team was finally building on the offensive scheme that he and Hue Jackson had installed.
Let the speculation run rampant about who the next head coach of the Oakland Raiders will be. Jackson? Harbaugh? Other? Discuss your thoughts on the Raiders not retaining Tom Cable and the impact for the Raiders.
UPDATE:
Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle is reporting that a source close to Hue Jackson said that Jackson was taking over the head coaching position for the Oakland Raiders. This news comes just hours after Al Davis gave the 49ers permission to interview Jackson for their head coaching position.
If this report ends up being correct, how do you feel about Hue Jackson being the next head coach of the Oakland Raiders? What things do you expect to change with Jackson in charge rather than Cable? Discuss.
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JacobyFord12 Still can't believe it; QuentinGroves52 Shocked!!!; MrMoss94 Wow wht a crazy bizz; tyvonbranch Good luck to Coach Cable hes a great coach and person I wish him the best; MikeMitchell34 And now I'm scratching my head!
Shane Lechler in a phone interview with CSN Bay Area. Shane is obviously upset about this move and comes out and asks Mr. Davis for an explanation. Shane also says that many of our free agents will decide not to return, which is my biggest fear with this move.
This whole thing could end up being a huge Catch-22 for Mr. Davis. The current roster underperformed with Tom Cable, but the roster may get downgraded with Cable leaving.
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it doesnt mean he cant comeback in a management role does it?
lets move on and get over it… let the Jackson Waufle era began!!!
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
before the pro cabes jump on me again... i wanted both Jackson and Cable to stay
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
I totally agree!!!!
Sure he was the HC and he motivated people…. but guess what so does every other HC its what they are paid for but the people behind the real success of the Raiders this year were Wauffle and most importantly Huge Action!!!!! Remember at the beginning of the season at training camp when Aso was saying that JAckson was always challenging the defense to step up to stop his offense….. I think he is going to be a very good head coach and the coach that will take us over the top to where belong at the top!!!!!! look what he did to our offense just think what he is going to do to our defense!!!! I cant wait !!! THere is a downside though Cable guy or maybe it was someone else hopefully still with us somebody had a good eye for talent in the draft but my hunch is that it was cable!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
by americaneagle510 on Jan 4, 2011 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Since when is a football team a democracy?
Heck, after the Lame Kitten debacle my dead grandmother would have been a welcome HC! Coach Cable fell into the HC position and was never going to take our Raiders into the promised land. Aside from his personal transgressions, I think he did about as good of a job as he was capable of but for Raider fans to be deluded to be believe that he was a first or even second tier NFL HC…I mean c’mon now, let’s put down the koolaid and come back to reality! Granted he has loyal players but that doesn’t mean you don’t make a move to improve the coaching of the team. This isn’t a popularity contest, we’re in this to win! I’ve followed the Raiders my whole life and just because we finally had a .500 season after all these years shouldn’t make us forget that Raiders should be about WINNING! By the way, winning players will be happy players on no matter what team or what sport so forget about the “he’s a nice guy” rose colored glasses approach to this coaching change. Mr. Davis has always sought to find young bright coaches. I have faith that Hue Jackson would make an excellent HC. So instead of all the tears for Coach Cable let’s focus on how we can move forward to improve the coaching of the Raiders so we can consistently be winners once again!
Since Free Agency
Since when is a football team a democracy?
There is a common phrase regarding state and local government policy – people vote with their feet. With the prevalence of free agency in the NFL, players will vote with their feet by choosing not to return to the team due to the changeover (once again) in the coaching staff.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that Cable was a top tier NFL HC – the real problem is that you can’t get guys like that to come to Oakland because of the unique front office situation. Because of that, keeping the players happy becomes more important, and Mr. Davis obviously didn’t take that into consideration when making this decision.
Now we have to hope that the players don’t vote against this move with their feet.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Top tier coaches at one time were also unknowns!!!
Jon Gruden and John Madden were both unknowns untill they took the HC job with the Raiders. By the two plus seasons given to the cable guy it was clearhe isn’t a top tier coach!!! You have to remember that Al is trying to win a SB before he dies!!!
by americaneagle510 on Jan 5, 2011 9:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Madden inherited a Super Bowl team
Think Super Bowl II.
Gruden built the Raiders in his image and it worked right up until he was traded.
Part of me is hoping that Al realizes the end is near, and he’s going to restructure the football operations side of the house so that his son is set up to succeed. Bring Ron Wolf in as Director of Football Operations, let him hand pick his GM and Coaches. Spare no expense. Imagine…
I may as well piss up a rope with those hopes, but I gotta hold onto something.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 5, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Al Davis bit on niners bluff....
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Yes you're right, but would you have risked it???
If it came down to losing Hue and keeping Cable, then I would have done the same thing.
Mr. Davis didn’t like Cable’s comment; “We’re not losers anymore!” If you live and die into Davis’ philosophy then this is never a comment you make!
Every man for himself...
adam "liar face" schefter reporting that Jackson is the successor... bet that aint true either...
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Sarcasm? Shefter is usually spot on.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
This
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Tafur is too
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
To: Tom Cable
Thanks for turning this team around and give us the opportunity to be feared again.. On ur first interview asa head coach you spoke directly to raider nation and promised to turn the team around..Well done sir.. Specially thanks for standing up to AL and getting rid of Ja Fat Ass Russell… The raider nation will always be thankful for that.. As for what’s coming.. I don’t know.. I hope this was a move to promote Hue Jackson.. Otherwise this wouldn’t make no fucking sense… I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt AL.. Don’t fuck this up!!
by SinCityRaider on Jan 4, 2011 7:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Jarvis Moss on twitter even is mad
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
exactly
even hes mad
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I didn't see enough of Moss play to know ir I like him as a DE
but I love his attitude. He was the most excited guy on the field and the first to congratulate teammates after good plays. It was like he’d been here for years
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 4, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
So how do you think the players who actually knew Cable are feeling? This isn’t looking good so far. Hue better be able to rally these guys together, and convince them he’s the man for the job.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
So far all fo them on twitter sound mad
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
i think theyre disappointed more then mad... Branch just wished him luck
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Hue
Now has to learn how to work with Al as well as the players without becoming the players guy because Lord knows in Davis’ world, he needs to be the on loved and adored by his players.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
He won't.
It’ll look like Hue only came to coach the division games and sabotaged the rest to make himself look like a prime HC candidate. I don’t think that’s the case, but now it has the potential to destroy all the progress we’ve been making this season.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention that Cable was a huge part of why our last draft was so good.
Hue better fucking prove me wrong before I speed up Al’s retirement plans.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
I still don't see any actual proof of that
Other than general statements that aren’t actually sourced.
Assumption, assuming facts not in evidence
Not exactly a strong argument
Failure builds character; success reveals it
Tom did a good job balancing things with Al and keeping the team on the right heading. He was surpringingly adroit
handling the press. His failures all stemmed from his inability to make timely adjustments – especially on defense..
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Because we know..
how much lattitude he had for making changes to Al’s defensive philosophies.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
How do you know otherwsie
Stop making things up
Not making it up wad.
How much have we varied our d in the past, oh lets say 40 years? Why did Marshall say that he hoped he wasn’t going to get into trouble after blitzing a lot in a game last year?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
well said. He is not an elite HC. He also wasted challenge flags regularly which may have cost us the Jax game.
What "elite" coach will come to OAKLAND?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello, I’m a successful head coach. Will you please hire me and then hire all of my coaches for me and then draft only really fast guys or projects and not allow me to establish discipline because you want everything your way Mr. Davis?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Wait, I thought Davis let Cable run the last draft and everyone gives Cable credit for the turnaround
But Davis wants everything his way and dictates everything? I don’t understand.
Elite coaches are made in Oakland.....
aka Jon Gruden, John Madden, Mike Shannahan. Hue might be the next.
As for Cable. I never endorsed him, he is more of a player buddy than a HC. I don’t see how all you Raider fans can spit on Al and say Cable was the savior. He is not a “good” HC. He is a good player pal. Get over it. This will turn out to be a great move.
that's a good thing though.
if players resent their coach, they won’t even bother playing. The really liked cable, and they gave their all for him. That’s how it is.
Cable was good enough to be better than the coaches of our last 8 years. Yes, Hue was a part of this, but Cable did well enough to be liked by players, thus motivating them.
Plus Cable makes gameplans. That’s his job, and he has done it pretty well this year. You can’t pin all the failures on cab;e himself, as executing plays are a big part of success as well as just practice(the pats org. stresses practice all the time).
This team was improving under cable(including last year), and I fail to see how loosing him benefits us, especially player wise.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
But I don't get the sense players resent Hue.
Au contraire (private encounters).
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Here's a question for you Mr. Elek
How did John Gruden do (along with Bruce Allen) do in Tampa after all of Dungy’s players were gone? You act like Gruden got to Oakland and there was nothing for him to work with. He added pieces but got them to stop underperforming. And Gruden is working where right now?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
No one said Cable was the savior. Stability may very well be the savior.
I could shit on Al all I want. I give a fuck about that POS owner. He better get his head out of his ass and get Jim or Jon.
Hue is some stability though, we need to keep him wheter at OC or HC at all costs. If we now lose Hue, we lose all progress.
The RaiderLaker
He had a problem in juggling the QB's,
Grads and JC, and who exactly was the ‘real’ starter. I think Davis, and really, who the fuck knows what he thinks so I am making this up, attached that indecision to our losses to teams that we should have punked hard. Your point about not making adjustments speaks directly to our drop in the second half in Jax, allowing 31 points. Losing that game was probably the most disastrous fail we had all year. We had made our bed losing to Az and SF, but we should have won that game.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 4, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Great points.
I think you just nailed the reasons he is gone. Cable made his bed when he went with Grad over Campbell. It was playoffs or bust at that point.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 4, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
You guys all act like Campbell was playing well when Cable jerked him out of
the Ram game. He wasn’t, he looked like shit and Grad came in and got us that win. We would not even be 8-8 had that decision not been made. Campbell was the reason that Campbell got pulled. Cable probably didn’t handle as well as he should have, but if Campbell would have played better the whole point would have been moot.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Absolutely.
The only knock I have on Cable in terms of Campbell is that Grads should not have started the Phins game. It was Jason’s team at that point and Grads wasn’t even fully recovered from his injuries.
It will be interesting to see if Jason becomes even more conservative next year without a fire under his ass. Or, will he get better and actually “cut it loose” knowing he is the guy?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
He did better without Grad breathing down his neck.
Hue praised him for his improvisational moves too. (O the tangled webs we weave when we’re learning to believe…)
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:20 AM PST up reply actions
Hue knows where his bread is buttered.
Al thinks Jason is the next Jim Plunkett just like he thought Jamarcus was the next John Elway. Hue was smart to let Cable criticize while he stayed in the background. He won’t be able to do that anymore but I guess it got him what he wanted…a head coaching gig.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Yes, Hue is one sly fox.
The Dec.30 press conference was truly his sales pitch.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions
+1
Indeed, a Sly Fox
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 7:35 AM PST up reply actions
I said nothing about Campbell's playing or Grads' for that matter...
My point was when it came crunch time for hard decision making concerning those two, when they would start etc, Cable IMHO, punted the wrong way. Cable was even hesitant at the last minute about who’s team it was as far as the QB’s before handing it over to Campbell. That’s not leadership, it;s just trying to placate everyone.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 6, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
JaKe, sorry to hear about this Cable Cutting business ...
sad, but once again Al does it, eh? I didn’t think much of Cable after the whole punch the assistant thing, but he’s gotten the team to play hard and believe in themselves again … looked like he had the team turned around
as a fan of a rival who loves a good rivaly, I hope Jackson gets that top spot, and maybe he’s the guy they were playing for all along, hard to tell … good luck with it all
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Thanks for being civil, and yeah it sucks. But, as a Raider fan I’ve learned to be numb to all of Al’s tricks, and just hope for the best.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
I hear ya
trust me, I’m not gloating over it … some will, no doubt
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
It’s to be expected. Just like how I’ll be laughing when Ray Lewis eats Jamaal Charles soul, then shits it out all over Matt Cassels face. (:
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
LOL
Hate away while you sit at home watching the Chief play on.
God I love Al Davis!
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy ****... What a Ride!'
LOL
After the ass rapin’ the Raiders gave us there’s no way i would come in here and run my mouth.
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there are 50 more mouthbreathers who will come in and do it in your place
props for not being one of them
ass rapin'?
No, they beat the Chiefs I’ll give you that.
As for coming in here and running my mouth – it’s the faiders and I’m with Marty S. on this one – I HATE the faiders and wish nothing but ill will upon their team.
Take your “props” for taking the high ground – I’d rather see oakland coliseum fall through fissures in the earth and burn away in a slow death.
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy ****... What a Ride!'
its not about taking the high ground
its about knowing when, where, and why to run your elementary smack
and yes, it was a complete ass raping in football terms. an emasculation. i’d be more worried about getting another one this week than about getting your titters posting in here.
You california boys need to get ass rapin off your minds
Oakland beat KC by a good margin in a game that was tied until there was less than 18 minutes left.
I’d call that a good beating. An ass rapin’ is when Oaland beat Denver 59-14 – and was up 24 points before the 2nd quarter even started. Get over yourselves – it was a bad game for KC and a good one for Oakland – but nothing more than that.
I know you all are hurt that once again Al Davis has struck – but as long as Al owns it you are stuck with it.
Enjoy the post season!
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy ****... What a Ride!'
The Ass Rapin comment
came from a Chiefs fan idiot. It was his thought on the loss by the Chiefs to the Raiders.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Why come here and talk shit?
What purpose does it serve, my suggestion is don’t say anything at all if you’ve nothing to bring to the debate.
Go listen to your Justin Bieber and calm down.
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Calm as a cucumber
and enjoying every bit of the faiders misery
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy ****... What a Ride!'
And happy to stay in a post involving public sodomy.
Somebody has deeper issues.
I don't even have a horse in this race...
and this strikes me as the most ridiculous thing ever.
No offense pal but you’re a Chiefs fan…one season removed from a team that won 10 games in the 3 previous years combined. You have one Super Bowl ring.
So historically and up until this year your team is nothing to write home about either. And yet you are here throwing down smack like you’ve accomplished something.
Go and enjoy your teams offense while you still have one, because once Charlie leaves, that idiot for a head coach is going to be exposed for the fraud he is.
BOILER UP!! 2010-2011
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
The Raiders could be here with solid QB play.
I think the Raiders are the best AFC west team right now, and if they had a solid QB they could be a damn good team, but that’s just my opinion.
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other than the revolving grad situation this year i disagree
campbell can be and is the solid qb we need
the main problems
1. defensive breakdowns and poor schemes
2. inconsistent o-line play
3. awful play at WR
4. inexplicable brain-farts in offensive game planning
the problem with these problems
1. al will hire a new dc
2. al won’t pay for OL free agents
3. al thinks DHB addressed this issue
4. the guy responsible for this is about to be put in charge
So you do believe the Campbell is a Franchise QB?
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define "franchise qb"
he’s not peyton manning or tom brady but very few people are
he is capable of being the starting qb on a serious super bowl contender if the rest of the team comes together as it could in a perfect world. i don’t think you can judge his ability to be a “franchise qb” until you give him some wide receivers who can run a route and catch the ball when the chips are down (beyond jacoby ford)
will that perfect world ever exist? maybe not, but that is beyond his control
Looking over his career stats he just looks average at best.
Are you really happy with him, or is he just the best available at this point?
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give him one year without grad breathing down his neck and with one more wr and i'll let you know
he played behind awful lines with no deep threats his whole time in wash
i am not completely sold yet but he is absolutely the best available at this point
Did you read Whitlock's article on Todd Haley?
If so, what’s your take?
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 4, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Whitlock is a Douche
I rank his articles right up there with the National inquire. To bad for Cable, i thought he had this team turning around, and the players like him. Shocked to say the least, but then again we are talking about a Al Davis decision.
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He's a douche because....?
He doesnt blow smoke up your shorts and tell flowery stories about the Queefs? Did he make it all up? Or does Whitlock just piss you off because for all those years he was in KC and is a KC fan, he didnt snorkle anyone’s ass?
Anyway, the inquiry was to upamtn.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 5, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Here's a different article.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArPpRvWuJX7bgRH.1lDOqzBDubYF?slug=ms-32questions010511
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You didnt even read Whitlock's piece, so youre pissing in the wind.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 5, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
How do you know what i read?
I did read it by the way and he’s full of shit just like you are. You’re a angry little elf aren’t you…………… you bring nothing to these conversation’s but 8 year old name calling.
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Whatever...at least I'm not a douchbag troll..
seriously Captain Rectum..who gives a fuck what you say? Take your lame attitude and shove it sideways.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 5, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
Lmao
You’re the Troll, you insult anyone that comes here and there team as well.Like i said above you bring nothing to a debate but insults, grow up or die take your pick.
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gotta rec it!!!
Thank you Cable… wish you the best and will be always cheering for you… unless your against the raiders…
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
how bad would it suck if he took Charlie Weis's spot or a Coach in Denver
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Who would hire Tom Cable as an offensive coach? Haha.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
well it looked like he had the key to the AFC west and now the entire raiders playbook
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Maybe as an OL coach
but he’s never proven to be a good OC, granted his one season as playcaller he had an albatross of purple drank around his neck, but he’ll have to go back to being a position coach and work his way back up. Maybe he pulls a Callahan and just coaches OL the rest of his life…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 5, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully
this is all because Al has seen the error in his ways and is excepting Gruden back with open arms! Hey, I can dream can’t I?
Since we're dreaming
Bill cowher with total control
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2011 8:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's not dreaming, that's Beyond the Valley of the Dolls weird!
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 4, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
Al Davis takes 2 steps back immediately after taking a huge step forward.
This isn’t surprising but it does piss me off to know that he’s hellbent on making the team die right along with him. Team chemistry is the ONLY reason we’re even at 8-8 and he just killed that. Now I hope there isn’t even a season next year since this has a higher chance of backfiring than anything else.
I pray that 2011 will be Al’s last year running this team. His time has BEEN up.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
He doesn't.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't doubt so easily...
Look at Hue and the other defensive coaches brought in recently?
I am deeply saddened to see Cable leave, but we have to trust that Hue will get more out of this team, than 8-8
Every man for himself...
To say he's "A wee bit over rated" is to say Woody Allen is a wee bit creepy.
I’m not trying to bag on the guy, I just don’t think he’s ready to be an HC yet. As an OC he brought alot more success that his predecessors, but he also pulled some major league fuck-ups
Give him
some time to see if after a full year with our “talent” what he can really do unleashing our offense and please dear God I have to sacrifice now my 60th Bday wish as I toasted my 40th and now 50th and give us a competent DC. Please for my 60th a true DC that has balls and unleashes the potential we have with blitz packages.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 5, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Cable was the catalyst for the overall team chemistry we've been developing the last couple of years.
Not Jackson. Jackson has been doing a phenomenal job, but he’s also coached us out of quite a few games as well.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
I think Cable actually earned the players respect.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
No. The offense and playcalling cost us more than the D.
When the offense can’t stay on the field in non-division games something is terribly wrong.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
we put up 26 against Indy, 23 against AZ, 31 against Jax, 24 against Houston and lost. Cant ask for much more than that
Yeah but we put up 3 against Pittsburgh, 9 against SF in one of the worst games I've ever seen offensively, and 17 against the Dolphins.
Janikowski cost us the AZ game. Can’t blame the D for that.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, and Hue's been repremanded for those two (Pitts & SF) disasters. But overall, there is no comparison
between Hue’s Raider Offense and Tom’s.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Big difference
between running the O and running the entire team. Besides that, what exactly is Hue’s record as a head cooch?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
So obviously
He will be lights out as he was the only reason the team actually improved this year.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Tom was always better at player-personnel and running the overall team than running an offense.
Not to mention that Tom had to deal with 2 years of JaCarcus Rustell. He did an exceptional job given our QB situation. I think Campbell is much improved from the beginning of the season but he still isn’t the answer long term. Hopefully Grads will be our QB coach soon.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Grads for QB coach?
Are You on CRACK? I wish we could get Rich Gannon to come coach our QB’s! Now there is a RAIDER!!! and if anyone could make JC an “elite” QB it’s Rich!
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
It'll never happen.
Gannon freakin’ hates the Raiders, and the Raiders freakin’ hate him.
That beef is so thick, you’d need 10 pounds of tenderizer to cook it..
CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.
Makes no sence to me.
He leads us to first winning season since 2002 and he gets fired.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
8-8 is a push ... you may consider it a win season b/c your moral is degraded
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
morale*...
ass.
"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige's Blackboard
"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry
I pledge allegiance to the Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jan 4, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly... i think this was the best time to make the decision.. hahaha i said decision
anyway… we can ride the momentum into the offeseason instead of worrying about it in camp… all Al Needs to do make a decision on the head coach asap so we can move on.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Poor Al...
The players loved Cable so it was necessary to get rid of him. It is only Al that shall be loved in Al’s world. Christ this pisses me off. Hello 4-12…again.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I saw this coming
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
And I wish nothing bad on Al. Only that he makes the right decisions and he has sung and missed more often than not over the past 8 years. That said, I hope he lives long enough to see the errors of his ways and 2-3 more championships.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I don't. His living and the success of my team seem to be diametrically opposed.
I only say this since the only way he’ll give up the team is death. The Raiders have gone from good to bad to average to really good to the worst in NFL history by FAR in my lifetime. I’ve seen twice as many losing seasons than winning/.500 ones and unlike most of you people I wasn’t alive for the glory of the Super Bowl years.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
lives?
Al Davis died 15 years ago but his corpse just has not yet realized it. much like he has not realized that the game passed him by 30 fucking years ago!
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
Ditto, but don't be suprised if Cable becomes Asst. to the GM !!!
Which is Al D. Cable’s main job, when hired, was the O-line !!! Let us not forget that. They did improve this year, but overall considering due to Hue’s offense, we were more smashmouth of style, vs Zone Blocking style, which Cable preached. It never really prospered under Cable. So if Hue is the HC, we then need a new OC, OL Coach, and definitely a Receivers Coach. Is a new DC coming also ??? Al’s loves offensive minds, so this shouldn’t be that BIG of a surprise.
I think he's 81
doesn’t look a day over 100 though
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
by rambis64 on Jan 4, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh shit
I love Al, but this is hilarious.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 4, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
So...if Cable was still the coach would you have been cool with not being in the playoffs?
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 4, 2011 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
no
i figured it was a lock we make the playoffs with cable and hue next year, with another year for campbell in the same O,some more talent at wr and oline. now the players are pissed and we got alot of good ones that are free agents and might not come back
by RyanTheRaider on Jan 5, 2011 1:37 AM PST up reply actions
Haha I gotchya now.
just to add, no one knows who is going to be a restricted or unrestricted free agent yet.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 2:24 AM PST up reply actions
Hope
Hope Mr. Davis has a positive change in the works, cause this is real dangerous with the players putting out as they did for Cable. I’m looking forward to a great season next year …
i say we resign cable in some form of capacity
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
if he loved the silver and black like he truly said... then he would comeback...
Randy Hanson would!!!
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
they gave Randy Hanson his
HOF Jim Otto autograph and swift kick in the ass
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
That's funny!
Should we expect to hear that Randy Hansen was hired as a special assistant soon?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I'd like him to stick around too
but unless he’s in a management role, why would he stay and take a demotion?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Definately an O-line coach
but you never know what he’ll be offered. He can’t stay here in a coaching capacity.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
If A intended to move Tom into the front office this would have been announced before the HC news
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
I suppose not. But what is he cut out for except OL coach? He's a horrible OC and didn't interfier with Marshall's
lamest decisions, so DC is clearly not his bag either. If he wants to be a HC, Tom would probably have to go back to college.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
maybe; but don't you think they'd have announced it, as in, "he'll move to..."
Instead, they simply expressed gratitude.
by Spirals galore on Jan 4, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
'Expressing gratitude' is PC for 'dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.'
Cable certainly created a good chemistry in the club. And this years draft was great.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 4, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
Now the team has to learn a whole new system right?
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
Whether it's right or not, remains to be seen
With who comes in to take his place, and who goes.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Watch SF hire Hue right from up under us after this.
If Hue ends up HC, Cable should be the GM.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
lolol
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
holy shit... id shit my pants if that happened
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
TOM CABLE
I DON’T KNOW WHAT OLD MAN DAVIS IS THINKING. WHAT COACH OUT THERE WOULD TAKE THIS JOB FOR VERY LITTLE MONEY THAT DAVIS WANTS TO PAY.AS IT STANDS NOW WE HAD TO OVERPAY PLAYERS TO COME TO OAKLAND. I ALSO HEAR DAVIS GAVE THE 49ERS TO TALK TO HUGE JACKSON, I’M STUMPED! TO GO 8-8 AND 6-0 IN THE DIVISION I WAS PLEASE WITH THAT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR.
The Right Call
Tom Cable was great, we all know that. But lets face it: That QB debacle could very well have been the death of our playoff odds. There is no reason not to believe that Hue Jackson could be a long long time future here in Oakland, and if he want anywhere else, no doubt it would come back to haunt us. As long as we dont lose both, we’re fine. Jackson is who really got us here, he’s only gonna take us farther now……I hope.
we are the only two people for this move i think
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
No. I've held him as responsible for five losses that kept us out
But accepted him in a lesser of evils kinda way. I have a renewed hope we’re either talking to exciting folks or printing Hue jack.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Hugh Jackman??? aka wolverine
just playin… im just ready to get off season moving
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Excited that somethings brewing
Let the media swings and misses begin!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Promoting...
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
The answer to Tom’s firing is simple. Al Davis gets bored easier than a kid with ADHD. This move doesn’t make sense, but we can’t sit around and mope about it. We need to support whoever the next HC is, and that person is most likely Hue Jackson.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
by JaKe. on Jan 4, 2011 8:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think so. Al didn't like all the offers going his way
And is setting the stage. Question is, who else goes, and who comes in to replace Hue?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Well I’m assuming Hue will keep his playcalling duties, ya know?
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
That parts for sure
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Cable permitted John Marshall to undermine the Indianappolis game right in front of Al Davis, Tom did nothing to prevent
the demented Marshmallow from executing to the bitter end his ill conceived and ill fated game plan – which, incidentally, is the exact same game plan the mushroom eating rabbit uses every time he faces a good QB, i.e. “avoid pressuring the QB at all costs, just contain him and man-cover those receivers…. we wouldn’t want to get our rabbit fur burned!”
If Marshall had been ‘axed’ tonight there would be celebrations throughout Raidershire.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Al believes in that only rush 4 and go man to man philosophy.
Marshall will be next to go after blitzing as much as he actually did.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
so does that mean NO MORE CUTTING LOOSE???
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
CABLE CUT LOOSE
would be a great headline for the sporting green tomorrow
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
by gogomaplata on Jan 4, 2011 8:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's so obvious, it hurts
but I hadn’t thought of it yet.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 4, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
I guess Randy Hanson got the beat up in vein
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
I wonder if Al is so cheap that he figures
“Why have a coach around that I have to pay when there’s a lockout?” But if the Raiders weren’t going to extend Tom, might as well cut him loose with a year remaining rather than being the dreaded lame duck coach.
But seriously, if Al isn’t delivering Jim Harbaugh as the HC, he better have a damn good reason for firing the only stability—even if kind of stoopid at game management—we’ve had in the coaching position since the Gruden era and its short aftermath.
@WorldBLee
its not crazy to think Harbaugh might comeback... he was our QB coach
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Yep
He has a good relationship with Al, I believe. He’s probably headed to greener pastures, but I would love it if Al put one over on the world and brought him in.
And while I’m at it, might as well have a draft day deal with bring Andrew Luck as well. ;-)
@WorldBLee
one can only hope
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
It happens
Especially in Raider land. I didn’t think the world of Cable, but I thought we needed to keep him to maintain continuity. And now who the hell knows what is going to happen. My faith in Mr. Davis dwindles more and more, but I’m still sure he wants whats best for the team to win again. I hope he nabs a great (not a good) HC who will put up with his shit and keep Jackson as OC. I would love to have Chucky back, but given the nature of Mr. Davis, I doubt its possible. Raider til I die, but this feels bad.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 4, 2011 8:18 PM PST reply actions
Can Tom Cable still come back as HC if they give him a new deal?
And Al was just like, haha guys just playing.
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As the "interim" coach again?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Hoho!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Rather have an outsider than hue under these circumstances
He will have to do one hell of a sales job with the team to convince them that he didn’t squeeze the wire clippers on the cable guy
The niners bluffed us into an all in
Of course if we get harbaugh now – MASTERFUL MOVE MR DAVIS (lol)
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2011 8:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Do you think
That Harbaugh would come here and allow Al to hire all of his coaches and not so subtly suggest that he runs his type of offense and defense and that he will have very little say in who we draft?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
No chance of that
Harbaugh would want his own staff. No idea how much player control he would expect though.
@WorldBLee
Like i said above
No experienced coach worth his nuts is coming here. Welcome to the Hue Jackson era. He has little clue what he’s actually getting into.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
If the players are ready to follow Jackson
Then I’ll be OK with it. If we lose the cohesion we have, though, I’m a gonna be pissed.
@WorldBLee
Will they follow him
when the weird stuff starts happening again, like the scholarship players? Still, I hope for the best too my Raider brother!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Being strong was easier this year.
I should have exected Al to make it more difficult again. This team regresses next year, I may take a few years off.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
He's a smart man
He knows – as al did not – that he would not have got another hc job
Bingo you’re an nfl head coach
He’s not harbaugh who could pick his situation – great move for him
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2011 9:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely not
He’ll just say “well al, you’ve got my terms, im late for my flight to denver”
Will al actually hire a hot commodity and give up control? Well, he never has…
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2011 8:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I can't imagine Hue as this year's token Roony rule guy
getting an interview bluffed Al.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Chiefs fan here
this is what i was hoping for…..Cable had the raiders rockin.
and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!
LOL exactly...
i couldn’t believe it….surely the old man could see the writing on the wall THIS time….
and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!
Whatever...Todd Haley is hating his staff away.
Enjoy your year Chiefer
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
Uh, what? That's just the rumor mill.
If Weis and Haley were really duking it out, Haley would have fired Weis. Or Weis would have walked away sooner. He’s leaving to be closer to his family…not to mention he wants to be a head coach on the collegiate level.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
by SupremeChief on Jan 5, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Hahaha
you are so naive.
Does your head hurt? That was one nasty fall you took from that speeding turnip truck.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
+1
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 5, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Two and two doesn't equal five.
I don’t see Todd Haley being fired anytime soon. It’s known Weis wants to be a head coach again. The likelihood of him receiving that opportunity in KC is almost zero. There is no conflict—only conspiracy theories from those who don’t have the ability to look at the bigger picture.
If Todd Haley is impossible to work with, why is it only Weis is leaving? Why haven’t any of the other coaches resigned or complained? Todd Haley is a hardass, but he happens to be a RESPECTED hardass.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
by SupremeChief on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
How do you know they won't leave?
Weiss was so anxious to leave he took a college job and announced it before a playoff game.
Yes he does want to be a head coach. I realize KC is an out of the way irrelevant franchise but even they are still a NFL team whose oc’s get job offers.
How did Weiss get one of the highest profile college gigs the first time?
Drunk by noon, but that's okay--I'll be president someday.
by Rich Langford on Jan 6, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Again, one can point to several factors to Weis leaving...factors that make more sense.
What’s the probability Florida’s HC will be successful? The odds are definitely in Weis’ favor. Couple that in with him being closer to his family. I don’t blame him for wanting to leave one bit.
Furthermore, I would take these articles with a grain of salt. The Chiefs keep their problems in house and shut the media out. Much of these events are left to speculation. It gives “journalists” such as Jason Whit(less)lock fits.
I’ll refrain from pushing the panic button until other coaches begin leaving and chalk this talk up to unfounded rumor.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
by SupremeChief on Jan 6, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Asleep At Watch!!!!/_
Damn…And I was feeling so great about things when I woke up this morning…Looked like such a great day…Sun shining down on the “Raider Sea” w calm winds…
Guess I must have totally misread the state of the torrent seas and didn’t see that “Rogue Wave” splashing down upon us…
Cable
This year, more than ever the right players were on the field to make the play offs! How many spots really need to be filled? This was a playoff caliber team. How do you explain the inconsistencies? Who is responsible for keeping the team focussed and motivated? Who let the nation down this year? Cable!
I live, breath and breed Silver and Black!
by sabp on Jan 4, 2011 8:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
a fanshot on AP says that Harbaugh is in play for the job.
thoughts?
and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!
Harbaugh's not some guy who has been coaching college forever
He knows the pro game and has been around the NFL for quite a while. Runs in the family.
@WorldBLee
I don't see Al dishing the coin that Harbaugh will get offered elsewhere
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
The thing is Harbaugh has a relationship with the Raiders has spent time with the Raiders as an 'observer' on multiple occaisons including last training camp
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
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Harbaugh is getting wined and dined by multiple organizations right now
wherever he lands, I expect him to work a pretty sweet deal for himself. I don’t see him passing on that ‘cause of loyalty. That’s not a knock on him either.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 2:27 AM PST up reply actions
i didnt actually remember but he was our QB coach in 02-03
From what I am reading i don’t think Hue is a done deal either, if Al has Harbaugh lined up I will be very, very happy – or Chucky
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What's your guess?
I would be shocked if it wasn’t Hue.
If I could wish and it came true, I’d go for Cower then Chucky
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 2:48 AM PST up reply actions
Well I would also be somewhat surprised if it wasnt Hue
however I also feel that Al has wanted Jim for a number of years now, they have a history together Jim has visited with the team on numerous occaisons over the last few years so it’s kind of seems convenient for Al to pull this move at a time when it looks like Jim is ready to come to the NFL.
This is an article from Kawakami from 2008
My source, who has been very reliable in the past and yesterday repeated the Harbaugh-Raiders talk I’ve heard for almost a year now, only had one caveat: "Everybody knows Al loves Harbaugh, but why would Harbaugh want that job? He could wait at Stanford a little longer and get a real job."
But here’s where I can add: Harbaugh loves Al. That’s what makes this magic.
Getting rid of Cable make much more sense if Al has Harbaugh up his sleeve
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from the same article
Just last month, Harbaugh broke into a huge smile when I brought up his relationship with Al. I don’t think Harbaugh could resist this, as long as Al gives him enough money and they can figure out what to do at defensive coordinator.
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Elway has probably tried to blow him already to go to Denver...
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 5, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
7-8 mil from Miami may not be able to compete with that!
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 6, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Why exactly would he come here
Just to be a eunuch? No way he comes to Oakland and accpets nearly zero authority.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
tafur is saying Jackson will take over
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=80336
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
I'll wish Hue all the best
As long as he does a good job and has the players playing hard.
@WorldBLee
It's not like we couldn't see this coming.
The Raiders were floundering after the bye week, with that horrible loss to the Dolphins at home. Al Davis probably looks at the Raiders rooster, looks at the Chiefs rooster and thinks why are they in the play-offs and we aren’t? The O-line (Cables area of expertise) just totally not ready to play at the start of the season, not having the line set after training camp and the pre-season. Not being able to get the team ready to play (win) two weeks in a row.
Davis probably does n’t think Cable is the guy to take us to the next level (playoffs).
I think Al has seen something in Jackson that thinks he is the guy to take us back to the playoffs.
by Oceanside Raider on Jan 4, 2011 8:55 PM PST reply actions
* Roster not rooster we're not talking about f'in chickens
by Oceanside Raider on Jan 4, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha I was like no way am I looking at the Raiders Cocks
I thought maybe you were a perverted South Carolina alum.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
If we're giving him both credit and blame, then Al has had a good year (365 days) and, hopefully, will have an even better one
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
I do give him credit.
But look at the overall track record over the past 8-9 years.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I'm looking at the last 367 days. Let's assume, shall we, that the 'dark ages' ended a year ago .... otherwise why
take the overall 8-9 years and not the overall 50 years? The Man seems to be on a roll and it’s exciting to see that he is not playing it safe with a mediocre HC.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 6:37 AM PST up reply actions
Because
We cannot assume that the recent uptick was anything more than a fluke or done with the help of others in terms of decision making, based on the most recent time period. All good things come to an end. A wise man recognizes when he needs help (Madden said the Raiders need a GM, right? Is he nuts for thinking that?). I would like to assume that Al has woken up and that he will hire someone (let’s say a real head Coach – Tony Dungy, not take a chance Hue) and give that person all the authority they need (draft, style of play on O and D etc) to be successful. Until I see this, I won’t believe he is anythng less than a man who is growing old and has failed to realize his limitations and change with the times.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Fluke? Bringing in Waufle, Jackson, tagging Seymour (over my protests), the Draft and FA last season ...
just too many good moves to warrant being called fluke.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions
I have to see another 2 years to be convinced.
1 year doesn’t do it. That’s part of the reason I wanted to see Cable with one more year.
All this said, my anger will subside, I will wish the best for the new coach and root this team on like I always do but as I am now conditioned to do, I will expect the worst.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
+1000000000000000000000
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+1
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That bye-week flop against Miami following Tom's "hip-hip hooray" thing, just emphasized the enormity of the problem
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
It's important
to not give credit to a team that was phenomenal (last game excluded) on the road this year.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I loved Cable
And not just this year.
But the Raiders were in a tricky spot, to say the least.
The difference this year was Hue Jackson. He is the main reason we got so much better. Cable was a great, great guy with the players and the media. No bullshit. Straight as could be. The players deservedly loved and respected him.
But do you keep Cabes and lose Jackson? That’s not a situation I’d want to be in.
It’s a rough, rough business. Wish Cable nothing but the best. He will be remembered very fondly by the Raider faithful.
I agree with most of your comments and your screen name is my actual name...
Weird scenes inside the gold mine.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
I'm done. I would be charged with 1st degree homicide if I ever meet Al.
Or if I see the chance to pounce.
The RaiderLaker
(ok maybe not.... I will watch, but at the first sign of same 'ol Raiders I will be pissed.)
We better finish with a winning record next year. If we finishworse than this year….. I’m really done,
The RaiderLaker
I'll never be done.
Maybe I’m a glutton for punishment. That said, I have serious doubts as to the wisdom of this particular move. Time will tell i guess, but I’m packing around an impending feeling of doom for now.
Good luck getting to Al... i think hes harder to get to then Osama Bin Laden
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Bin Laden makes more appearances the Al does
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Al took a look at our 2011 schedule, looked over at Tom, then at the schedule again ... and here we are
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
Everywhere I go I keep hearing Harbaugh everywhere. Is he really that good? Get Harbaugh!!!!!
Hue is not a HC. We will be worse next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The RaiderLaker
this may happen. part of our improvement, was the players getting a solid coach who believes in them.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
We might have been worse next year anyhow
6-0 isn’t likely to happen again, and not being able to beat anyone else doesn’t portend good things.
Don't Believe It's Hue!!!...
"The 49ers asked and Al said yes," senior executive John Herrera said. "He’s happy for Hue.’
Sorry but this does NOT sound like an owner who is about to name the “OC” as “HC”…
I vented already.
We are all in flux now. All we have to do now, is see what happens, and hope for the best. I severely despise All for doing this. having a good head coach is important for player improvement and morale.
However, we will have to wait and see what will happen, before we make solid judgements. We don’t know if the raiders will be as good without cable next year or not, and we won;t know who will be the coach who can lead this team.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Mort's record on Raiders news is not so stellar.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
Lechler was supossedly interviewed and was pissed. He said many Raider FA's aren't coming back-
after this.
The RaiderLaker
Lechler is just a punter
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Shane does do a good job holding for Jano
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 4, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Hes also a captain
We might lose Seymour over this, and Bush and Miller ….
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Holy Mother of God! What does that tell you about Cable (?) the team had their Punter as their leader and role model
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 6:44 AM PST up reply actions
Just a punter
So he is not a member of the team and therefore has not been witness to the insanity that has been our Raiders?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Just listened to his interview.
It’s a strange one.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah!
It was quite odd but very telling that this team needs a buffer from the craziness of Al and his upstairs lackies.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Easy - Al is an idiot, but that's not the point here.
Lechler is getting old and they may be exploring replacement options. What’s the name of the ballerina guy who punted and kicked in preseason this year?
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:11 AM PST up reply actions
Lechler will be gone for this laps of good judgement. What folly! What possessed him to go on the air
after the fact, when nothing positive could be achieved. He is toast, a dead-man walking. Al will not spare this this punting man.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, it sounded like a deliberate suicide.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
It did.
One thing for me to say the crap I do. I was really shocked that he said what he did. Then again, if he was really echoing a sentiment that is fairly clubhouse wide, we could be in for a bumpier ride than expected.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
He mentioned Gallery whose been around a long time too. Maybe its time to clear out those
Raiders corrupted by living through "the dark age’ … those 7 years may have permanently distorted their moral compass.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 7:29 AM PST up reply actions
or maybe those who lived through those "dark ages"
can see the next dark age coming and wish to avoid it.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Exactly Son's
I can’t see the younger guys who really are the ones who carried this team and are the core of this team being anywhere near as affected
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Nah, I don't think so
Lechler knows he’s secure because he’s the best punter in the NFL, so he’s free to speak his mind. I don’t think Al will really care what Shane says (not that I now Al’s mind; he’s tough to read)—but I think he really did get mad at Cable for saying, “we’re not losers anymore” after going 8-8, as has been reported.
@WorldBLee
I agree
I’ve been listening to Sons and Spirals discuss other comments made by Hue etc and I think Al was probably pissed by that statement.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Tom can be quite the renegade when he gets pissed
He made the “we’re not losers anymore” comment after Hue’s press conference (in which Hue said you either win the div or you’re a loser).
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
Swayze Waters
though he should be forced as part of his contract to change his last name to Dalton and grow a mullet.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 5, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Did anyone tell him they finished 3rd out of 4 teams in their division?
by Oceanside Raider on Jan 4, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Where will you be when this team goes back to 4-12?
After making positie gains under Cable? Please come back an make yourself available as will I if Hue (or whoever gets hired) does better.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Jackville and Indi are on Marshall - Not Hue.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 6:46 AM PST up reply actions
True enough,
But Miami, Pittsburg, and SF were pretty squarely on Hue.
Pittsburgh was a joint effort - Marshall & Hue at their worst
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
They are also a superbowl caliber team.
;)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Oh, so we should accomodate them by laying down? Seymour at least did something memorable
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
absolutely not.
Just saying that they are extremely talented and experienced and disciplined. We didn’t lose just because of Cable and Hue, but a bit more of the fact that they are VERY VERY good, and very dangerous.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
It's true that Grad & Jason stank up the field that night (46.9 and 26.2 QB ratings respectively)
But Rottenbugger got a free pass with only our four lineman coming at him (Scott and Houston – DEs – each got a sack… that’s it). It’s also true that our 3rd down efficiency was horrid.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
We lost that game because
we were beaten in every facet of that game Players, Coaches and Preparation. It was a truly pathetic effort all the way around.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
I hope we don’t have a revolving door of head coaches, again. That will hinder any progress we made this year and potentially years to follow.
Exactly, some dumbasses here are saying that Cable shuffling the QB's doomed him.
Al has been basically shuffling HC’s in the past 8 years. It’s way worse than shuffling QB’s. The HC position needs stability.
The RaiderLaker
+1
I would even be fine with keeping Cable on till we find a good coach, but since this is Oakland we are talking about where coaches have no say it seems, it is no surprise guys like Rex Ryan or Belichick or any other great coach isnt vying for an int here.
Stop ruining my team AL!!
and to whoever wins the mega million tonight, please, do us all a big favor and buy the Raiders. Save us from this madman already.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
What To Pay Attention To Now Regarding "FA"s...
If the Raiders go back to getting the players that I’m pimping like “VY” n “Plaxico GunDumb” Burris we will know that Cable had an affect on the Raiders “FA” market…If NOT…Than is was all Al changing his ways…
Somehow I don’t expect it to come up as Al changing ways this late in life and I project I will now get my wish prolley for sure…
Just hope the hell “Harb” knows how to use them sense his name seems above all others…
Always A Positive With Any Negative!!!!/_
Yeah. Looks official. Thanks Al.
You are now a worse GM than Matt Millen. We are officially a worse-ran organization than the Lions and it’s because you have a knack of cutting your nose to spite your face. Just die, baby.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 4, 2011 9:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
there shouldnt have been any question man. Millen at least ruined a so-so team. Alzheimer Al is ruining a great feared franchise that was a force in the leauge and has become a laughingstock and a poison for good talent. Be it players or coaches, theres a reason people stay away from this organization now. Its sad too, because there are a lot of Raiders fans who would love to play for Oakland or even coach here, but the way things are run pretty much turns them away.
My wish for 2011 is now that whoever wins the Mega Millions tonight buys a share or the team, so we can be free of this madness that is AL dirtbag Davis.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
Worse than Matt Millen...I think not.
Al has made some shit moves, but why are the Raiders a feared franchise?
As Matty, all I can say is all he did was draft DHBs…only worse.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
In the last 7-8 years, his record was worse than any other GM's by far.
But he has 3 championships, the last of which was nearly 30 years ago, to use as a crutch for why the team has and will continue to be so terrible.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Jan 5, 2011 1:14 AM PST up reply actions
Yup, and he still kicks the shit out of Matt Millen.
=
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 1:35 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks, out of context guy
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 6, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
fucin Al Davis
douche bag
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
Time Will Tell!!!!
One thing for sure…Al wants to win…He has assembled a very good core on this roster and finishing 3rd in the AFCW 2 seasons running was just NOT good enough…
But now I just hope the course Al has steered this ship is a good one and the violent seas ahead are behind us giving momentum to the chase….
Thank you Michael Huff!
I may not like his play, but I think it has a lot to do with the pressure he faces in playing in a defensive scheme that relies solely on man coverage 100% of the time practically (Another stupid mindset no doubt of the great Al D). But I like the way he’s thinking about the good of the team with this…
From Huff’s Twitter:
I’m ready for this megamillion lottery tonight……when I win I’m gonna buy the raiders
2 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
while were at it heres Jacoby’s possible take on the Cable decision..
From Jacoby Ford’s Twitter:
Still can’t believe it
about 1 hour ago via Twittelator
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:00 PM PST reply actions
Wow
I hope these guys like baseball hats and parkas
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2011 10:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hell, if I won the lotto, I’d buy the Raiders.
by Walker Wallace on Jan 5, 2011 6:01 AM PST up reply actions
If They Had Heart...
These players could give their $$$$ back for the next 3 seasons and they would own the team…Doubt any of them are willing to do anything like that…
now you’re just being unreasonable.
If they give their money back then who keeps it? Al, which is the LAST guy I want running anything to do with this team now. The only reason he HAS money to spend on these players is because this was once a great WINNING franchise but it seems he no longer cares about that. Ive been calling for a new owner who will implement a great GM and HC that way there is some sense of accountability in the organization and actual progress towards putting together a team on the field that can win consistently and compete for a title. No that makes too much sense.
Instead I have to deal with some outdated stupid catch phrase that’s become more a joke, from a man that no longer gives a damn apparently about the team he owns.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
Mutiny…really?
Then please explain it to everyone here how changing coaches for the last 8 yrs will help a team that is struggling to play to its potential in an organization that has become notorious for not having any sort of discipline or accountability. Please do.
Or how firing this guy after having the turnaround this yr makes sense compared to last yr when they had a losing record.
Sorry for wanting my team to be on the winning end and competing for the Super Bowl instead of vying for position in next years draft.
Please, explain it to me. I’m all ears and will gladly read and offer my apologies if I was grossly mistaken.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
I hope this doesnt come to pass after today's move.
Knowing Al, if the rumor is true he will dump everyone and ruin the bond the players have with the coaching staff, which will result in a sub par season from JC who has struggled in the league because of that very reason. Hes had a new OC practically every yr. That is not a winning formula AL!?! Look at the way New England handles it and maybe learn from them. CONSISTENCY is key.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 2, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:19 PM PST reply actions
my god this would suck.
I swear, raider fans will call for Al’s head if it does.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Ive been calling for his head for years now, but yea man, Im as optimistic as the next person maybe even more so. But if the NFL has shown anything its that Consistency is key.
That’s how you establish a GREAT team that continually wins games and is in position to compete in the playoffs.
Talent is one thing, but what good is talent if you don’t have coaches to help them reach their potential? If this year has shown us anything its that we have talent to compete. With the right scheme and coaching staff – free of any bullsh-t interference by the owner- we can actually put a winning season together and make some noise in the playoffs.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, you are a youngster
We’ve been calling for als head since approximately 1991
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2011 10:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
im right there with you man. the 90s were heartbrake, which made the early 00s that much sweeter when the team was finally able to start wining again. thats why i was hoping this latest win over KC would propel them much in the same way the 99 win at KC did to a winning season and eventually the super bowl.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Speculation:
Hue was Cable’s man and he sold them both down the river with his sick ass play calling in games like Indy/Pitts/Miami where he forgot we run the damn ball…
Hue was als hire all the way
Al is not huge on nuance at this stage. He sees a greatly improved offense (ALL hue in his mind… He won’t recognize the positive impact of dropping the"fat deuce") and a team that loses games it should have won. (all tom in als mind) he won’t place the blame on marshall (or on himself for failing to provide his coaches with nfl wide receivers)
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2011 10:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
yup. he also wont realize that speed alone doesn’t make a guy a great receiver, anymore than a canon arm wont make a guy a great qb, or for that matter 100% man coverage all the time a great defense.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 4, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Why are you a Raider fan again
Al’s owned the team longer than you were alive, you act like this is all new to you
Don't give a fuck about him no more. Al is old now, he's no good.
Slatkin, If you like shit, then eat shit. I won’t be fed that.
The RaiderLaker
i cant fucking believe this
thank god im graduating and joining the air force so i can stop following the raiders
im a huge cable fan and i cant believe right when things start to look good, al goes and fucks it all up. this is bullshit
Easy kid, we went 8-8, 3rd in the division - we did not win the Super Bowl.
by Oceanside Raider on Jan 4, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
from watching every raider game since 2004
8-8 is a dam superbowl win for me…
This
Watching the Raiders go 8-8 this year and going 6-0 in the division was about as exciting as watching the Lakers win the finals. After 6 years of hell (or however many years since we lost to Chucky), watching the Raiders finally do something was exciting as hell.
Letting Cable go means we get Jim Harbaugh right? Oh hell what am I thinking… With Ancient Al Davis, we probably gonna pick up some shitty leftovers like McDaniels,
Not only can this affect the players, but neither will we win the SB with Hue next year
so, i don’t know what you are trying to say..
The RaiderLaker
Worse case scenario is: we fire Cable, then Hue Jackson, Harbaugh, Gruden, all
get better offers, or stay where they are leaving us with Art Shell x3.
I have to believe that Hue Jackson has already agreed to be head coach, otherwise Al Davis would not have pulled the trigger on Cable.
by Oceanside Raider on Jan 4, 2011 11:18 PM PST reply actions
My suspicion
…last year was that Al stayed with Cable because no self-respecting quality coach would work for Davis. Let’s hope he already has a replacement head coach pencilled-in. And let’s hope it isn’t Josh Daniels.
Hugh Jackson
…has never been a head coach. Maybe he’ll be great. With Cable, the Raiders had a known quantity, who had proven that he could turn the franchise around. The source of the Raiders woes over the past 7 or 8 years has been the idiot moves by Al Davis — wasted first round draft picks, and creating turmoil at the head coaching position. Al, Just Sell, Baby.
I'm not sure how Cable proved he turned the franchise around
They finished 3rd in the second worst division in football.
8-8 is turning the franchise around for most of us. Tired of the last 7 years of crap.
if you were watching the games this season, if not for a missed FG, 9-7.
You can easily improve on that. Don’t know why you keep trying to bag on Cable and saying that stability is not needed. We will not be a powerhouse overnight. Build trough the draft and FA for next season to make a push.
The RaiderLaker
You don't understand Jagger!
We didn’t win the SB with the extreme amount of talent on this team! It is all Cable’s fault!!!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
This makes me feel sick
After going through the long drought ever since Gannon left and then finally getting to .500, and now Al puts the team in danger of a set back. Cable was a good coach and he deserved to stay. Al better get this shit right.
Link?
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
saw it on the local news, but
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/01/04/SPFN1H449F.DTL&tsp=1
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by GsWar510riors on Jan 5, 2011 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
i would just like to say
HAVE YOU GOT TO BE SHITTING ME???
THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT!
Would you guys be happy if Jackson became Head Coach?
SB Nation seems to think it will be him
The sterner the discipline, the greater the devotion.
no
we already knew it was coming.
telling us he fired cable to make room for jackson is like telling us we opened up the toilet seat to take a fat dump.
I CAN'T FUCKEN BELIEVE THIS
i’m just so disappointed i just don’t know what to say.
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I personally think this is ridiculous. Cable had this team going in the right direction IMO. You guys whipped on us pretty good and another year under him I see you guys with us up front fighting for the division. Do you guys think this was the best move? I don’t really keep up on the raiders too much.
Well all we can do is wait. We will need to witness. Most of us are mad, but you never know until the season starts.
The RaiderLaker
personally
i thought we were just one mor season of gelling and growing together from being a real problem. we had all the right tools, the leadership puzzle is in place, we just needed stability for a bit longer. and now its all down the drain. ugh ive never doubted for once, not in these past seven years that i would die a raider fan. but right now i have no fuckin clue the saints look pretty good right now seeing as my dad is a saints fan…
trying to upgrade coaching is a great thing,
but when it comprimises the players will to play for the organization, its ridiculous to be a fan of this move. these players are going to war week in and week out and all they want in return (besides the check) is just a lil bit of stabability. too much to ask for??? obviously in al’s head, it is.
I guess it's possible that Cable was just Cable this year and I guess the amount her personally created the turn around is impossible to say unless you are in the locker room on a daily basis
I love coach Cable but it is widely accepted that he is not a great game planner, play caller or tactician so i guess he really was just a figure head who was a pretty good motivator and when you have someone who may leave who actually has some tangible skills as a head coach and I think the proof is in the fact that i think we can all agree that if a team hires him as an OC they are fucken crazy.
that is some mighty fine kool-aid Mr Davis! lol
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Dumbest move ever. We finally had a good coach and some consistency with our head coach. He got the players to play no matter what. Now we’re gonna lose some really good free agents because they only wanted to play for Cable, and the team has to learn a whole new coaching staff and everything.
Well, that one not losing season was great…..might be a while till the next one folks.
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I hear a lot of just wait and sees, but we could’ve said the same thing about next year if Cable was still HC. I’ve never been so disappointed and almost angry before. Al’s done stupid crap before, but what the hell?
by Walker Wallace on Jan 5, 2011 5:59 AM PST up reply actions
if it's in fact Hue,
it’s not that dramatic. Yes Cable was well liked and respected, and yes, the players thought that he had their back and occasionally attempted to stand up to AD. AD doesn’t care about chemistry, premadonnas, locker room, egos, etc, he only cares about winning. AD pays and the players fall in line; when we win, it’s one of the best franchise to play in. You can be you, do their thing, and feel the love of a supportive fan base who can tolerate just about any idiosyncransies. Hue has brought a lot of energy, at to training camp. Can he motivate? It sure looked like it. Did he get the team to run the damn ball? Top 5 in NFL. Is he flexible enough to know that how this team would win some games? Look at KC game, textbook. Pound, occasionally get big play from special team, have your QB stay in control. Do we still need a DC, yes. Can the run defense improve, please. We’re just not good enough. Can we be a playoff team with Hue and a sound DC, that’s the expectation. We all knew the Cable was at risk last year, his slow start didn’t help. The only way to survive the cut was making the playoffs, not “we didn’t have a losing season”.
by raiders4liffe on Jan 5, 2011 6:04 AM PST up reply actions
This is dissapointing.....
I mean Cable wasn’t tthe best….but the team seemed to respond to him and want to play for him. The team was just starting to gel. I really don’t agree w/ this move at all……unless we’re getting Cower…lol
When Oakland played
vs. Jacksonville I thought the Raiders are truly on the rise. I don’t get this decesion. I think Cable started to put together a great team; which showed really promising things in the past season. Right now I think this decesion was a mistake by Al Davis.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 5, 2011 6:42 AM PST reply actions
My magyar friend
What you witnessed that day was the nail in toms coffin – we had the superior team and a commanding lead and choked away our chance at the playoffs
by lchristmas on Jan 5, 2011 11:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry to Hear this...
Hey Raiders fans, hated to read about Tom Cable getting fired. As a Chiefs fan, it was tough to take a beating from the Raiders twice this year, but it was nice to see the AFC West return to respectability. I thought Tom Cable had the Raiders on the right track.
Anyway, heard you weren’t real happy about this and wanted to extend best wishes. Your bloggers have been stand-up & respectful guys over at Arrowhead Pride. I hope this works out best. I’d like to see the AFC West dominating the AFC & NFL again soon!
As a Chiefs fan ...
I just wanted to drop by and thank Al Davis on behalf of Kansas City.
Finally get a guy who not only owns us year in and year out and has managed to really rally the players and get a true, old-school Silver and Black sort of feel back in Oakland, but who also manages to close out a season of absolutely dominating the division with a blowout win at Arrowhead where your defense made our offensive line just look foolish, and how do you thank him? Give him his walking papers.
Honestly, I’ve really enjoyed our renewed rivalry (even though you’ve been kicking our asses lately) and I really hoped to see it continue. I truly hope that this move doesn’t mean that you’re back to insane, inexplicable draft choices and overpaying overrated free agents.
Lechler's telephone interview was interesting
He’s worried that he will have to “re-prove” himself again with a new HC. He also mentioned Gallery and Bush as potentially leaving. He was outspoken to the point of recklessness – it sounded as if he expects to be replaced next year. Why bring down Gallery and Bush though…
Not sure they will
It sounded as if Lechler is expecting to leave and is just throwing some names of people he spoke with about it.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:09 AM PST up reply actions
I hope I'm worng
but I think we’re going to lose a lot of the guys we’d like to keep around. Raiderland is an odd place.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Slippery slope, huh:)
That’s not how it happens usually – once one person goes on a limb, as Lechler did with this interview, the rest pull back and dissociate themselves. We’ll see.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
This reminds me of when
Charlie Garner and others jumped ship. You’re right though, SOP for the other guys would be to say that he doesn’t speak for them.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
and Gruden had an HC gig for players to land ...
Is Lechler’s contract up?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 7:36 AM PST up reply actions
Lechler
signed a 4 year deal last year or the year before
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Two more years - so why the talk about "re-proving" himself?
Unless there’s talk about the ballerina boy.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions
We'll be trading him, I suppose, and perhaps our Bush (too bad, but I wanted LaGarrete Blount
in the 5th instead of Lil Walter or Jeremy Ware (fn. Ware is going to be a Raider I believe). Anyway, we can probably get comparable value WR or Guard for our Great Bush
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions
Al will have to decide
to franchise Bush or Gallery, which ever one won’t sign a multi-year contract.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
but see this
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/01/04/post-cable-notes/
– With regard to Bush, he may not even be an unrestricted free agent when a new collective bargaining agreement is reached. Bush spent his first season rehabbing a broken ankle and then played three seasons. His contract has expried, but the Raiders could end up with a right of first refusal in a new CBA _ just like with Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard last season.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
All this just reminds me how much these guys live in a fantasy world compared to you and me
I don’t like the move but to basically publicly call your boss, who pays you millions to play a game, an idiot just makes me cringe.
Maybe we’ll go with 2 punters next year and shane will get marcus allen’d
The twitter twats are incredible… JARVIS MOSS? Do you have any common sense at all?
by lchristmas on Jan 5, 2011 8:38 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I do suspect he got some whiff he's going to be replaced
which is why he went out like that. Gallery, in his interview with JerryMCD, was much more careful.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
Now that we're looking at everyone's last comments
It would seem that Cable knew he was done for. In his press conference he called attention to the fact that he was part of turning the ship around (Look at me world! You can hire ME!) and called Al by his first name. He wasn’t kissing his ass with that Mr. Davis crap.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
He's getting older
I liked the ballerina boy.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
I have to say this....
…wasn’t the last time a franchise player went to bat on behalf of a coach when Tim Brown convinced Al Davis to keep Joe Bugle?
Ha ha, good point
I’m not taking Shane’s comments too seriously. He’s a great punter, but he is a PUNTER.
@WorldBLee
I love the guy, but seriously needs to stfu
C’mon, man! It’s a business. Act professionally. I bet Gallery n Bush didn’t appreciate his speaking on their behalf, either.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Yep, this was totally unprofessional and unloyal.
If I were Bush or Gallery, I’d be very resentful.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps they agree with him?
Also he has every right in the world to say how he feels. He’s an employee, not an indentured servant. The employer doesn’t like it, he can remedy the situation by releasing him.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Idiot kicker
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 6, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
Bush is gone regardless
He wants to be a feature back, not a number 2, and there are plenty of teams that will sign him.
Cable was great for the team at this point, but there were way too many mistakes that were elementary that cost us games. I love a coach that is a good motivator, but we need more than that.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
by Kwester421 on Jan 5, 2011 7:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Now that would be insane (except as an LB coach).
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Yea...
Singletary is just not bright enough to handle a team. Great LB coach, but I think some desperate team will give him a shot a DC.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Good Move
Cable was a motivator and thats it. Its no surprise that the O improved when JC and Hue came in and Hue began using DMC the right way. Thats why JC and DMC arent vocal about the Cable firing.
Plus if we promote Hue Jackson and get Josh McDaniels to run the O and get a new D coordinator then we should be fine and have some sort of continuity.
If hue is the guy
He has to either call the plays himself or have someone do it for him with “his” offense…
That would be the point of promoting hue, right?
by lchristmas on Jan 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Absofreakinlutely
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Might have helped that
DMC was healthy and started running with authority. Interesting though that we haven’t heard anything out of him. I understand with Jason though. Jason’s been through so many changes that, unlike Lechler, he knows it’s pointless for him to bitch about it. He can’t change it with words.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I think JC doesnt care much for Cable
I think the main thing is that Hue gets retained and a high profile OC comes to continue with the offense. I liked Josh McDaniels.
I don't expect them to hire an OC if Jackson if the head coach
Jackson will call the plays.
@WorldBLee
That is usually how Al likes it, with the
Head couch calling the plays and handling the offense
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
even if thats the case
most teams do have an OC (exceptions being NE and I think IND (Peyton qualifies as an OC tho)) even if the HC calls the plays
Its a great day in Raider nation!
If I recall, the Raiders didn't have offensive and defensive coordinators
Until way after other teams. I mean, guys did those jobs, but the DC was called like ‘linebackers coach’ or something. And Gruden definitely called the plays while he was here.
@WorldBLee
It was Callahan and Trestman
Those guys helped Gruden build the game plans, but Gruden called the plays.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
One plus with Jackson...
…well, there are more than one, but an important one, is that there is a degree of consistency there. If Jackson becomes the head coach, he’s someone the offense is already used to. It wouldn’t be like Davis bringing in someone completely new. The offensive schemes likely won’t change that much. And nothing brings a team together like winning. So, we wait to see who it is.
to keep your job as coach, you have to win
cable didnt get it done at 8-8 and was 17-27 overall. look for hue jackson or harbaugh. so here we go again , in the world of al davis.
by sports with steve on Jan 5, 2011 8:28 AM PST reply actions
Paul Gutierrez' conversation with Al after the Queefs game
The Raiders owner was being escorted to the team bus in the bowels of renovated Arrowhead Stadium and he was lamenting not only running back Darren McFadden not playing in the season finale against the Chiefs, but also rookie lineman Bruce Campbell being inactive. Clearly, it was an indictment against coach Tom Cable and his gameday decisions on which players to dress.
As Davis turned a corner, I said hello and asked how he was doing after the Raiders’ 31-10 blowout victory. He said something to the effect of, not so hot.
…
"But 8-8 is a good finish, right?" I offered."If that’s the world you live in," Davis shot back.
So important
to have a guy with turf toe (we’ve seen that version of McFadden before) and a raw 2-3rd string guard suited up for that game. Cable was right, they won without them.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
did bruce campbell play one snap of offense all year?
THAT is what pushed him over the edge? the senility is worse than we could have feared.
I think it was a pretext
He and Tom didn’t get along.
by Spirals galore on Jan 5, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe hafl a dozen. Either he's very dumb or Tom was protecting his favored ones
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
It's a fair point about Campbell
suit him up. The game meant nothing. If it was close all contest, he wouldn’t play, but if it got to a blowout, like it did, you give him some valuable reps.
Of course, that would be the same reason to not play McFadden.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Bullshit. You forget all the fourth quarter leads we relinquished under his tutelageI was expecting to see him
What could it have hurt? At the very least when we had a 14 point lead.
What better way to develop guys than game time?
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6-0 and 8-8
kind of was a big deal in terms of morale for next season imo.
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It was a big deal, but would activating Campbell instead of Loper have made any difference
Shit was hitting the fan if Loper had had to play.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 6, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
Made of difference? No one would no...
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Dunno how this reply ended up with this caption
Damned IPad!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
His team wanted the win as much as he and we did.
I’m glad he dressed the guys who gave us the best chance for a victory. This is BS nitpicking.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Negative, ghostrider
We still would’ve won and it meant nothing IMHO.
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LOL, Bruce Campbell is the guy Al wanted in the 1st round I bet, after reading this stupid comment by him (Al).
Cabes said no, it’s all about Death Ro’.
Al still on raw projects.
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If You had a choice who would you pick ?
I would pick Hue over Cable .We didn’t start winning until Hue arrived . We need money to keep him. When play calling was stripped from Cable we started winning. I pick Hue over Cable any day.
Also was the same time that JaFatass was sent packing
If Hue would had Fatboy running his offense you wouldn’t have seen the turn around you saw with JC. Also DMAC was finally healthy too.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Bill Belichick had an average season with the pats his first year
and he only SLIGHTLY improved the team the next year to 10-6.
Cable was part of the improvement because he had a year working with the system and players. Not to mention the players trusted him, and PLAYED for him. If we kept cable for next year, I think we could have gotten 10-6 or 11-5.
We’ll see how hue does, but 9-7 is my prediction at the most for his first year as HC.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Bullshit. You forget all the fourth quarter leads we relinquished under his tutelage
Better or not; his career is full of losses by a td or less.
I’m over the Japurpdriink Bustell excuse too. We somehow found ourselves with leads in lots a those games too.
Provided we make the right moves ridding ourselves of the dead weight coaches still here and replace them with the right guys, we’ll continue to grow.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Those 4th quarter leads should not be blamed on Cable.
The players have to execute too, and we know how inconsistent our guys on both sides of the ball can be in terms of execution.
We were growing with cable and hue. It bugs me that Al would risk the players attitude toward the team by releasing him.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Were you watching????!!?!
The coaches called pass on fist and goal. The coaches went prevent with a td lead. The coaches failed to create pressure packages against Indy until halfway into the fourth quarter. Coaches called low percentage pass plays to guys we know couldn’t catch when we were third and short in fourth down territory.
Tom needed to go. Hue convinced Al in his press conference the time is now by saying we didn’t win enough games. We should be looking at 11-5, and a first round bye in the playoffs.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
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by brhynno on Jan 5, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rec this multiple times if I could; it's loaded with truth
Al watched as los stupidos und dunderheads made mockery of the blessed Raiders.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
The guy
who is apparently taking over for Cable is responsible for many of those things you complain about. Now he can make ALL of the decisons. Feel good about that?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Still gotta put the major blame on the head for REPEATING those mistakes
Not changing calls in such situations, and add in the penalties, the majority to which I refer being calls on the lineman for false starts, holds from blowing assignments by said lineman, and just getting wins.
That’s the biggest determining factor: the lack of wins. I said I’d be pissed with less than a winning record. I’m now more pissed for not being the afc west rep in the playoffs; it was ours for the taking.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Limiting penalties comes in over time and experience. The team was still in early development in terms of playing with each other and such.
Those false starts and holds are on the OL. Yeah, Cable is a part of that, but not the SOLE reason.
also changing calls, yeah, cable is part of that as well. Tell you what though, their defense didn’t do too much help either. If I remember correctly, our defense stunk in that game too. We lost as a team, it was not solely on cable.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
The coaches called pass on fist and goal. The coaches went prevent with a td lead. The coaches failed to create pressure packages against Indy until halfway into the fourth quarter. Coaches called low percentage pass plays to guys we know couldn’t catch when we were third and short in fourth down territory.
I thought many people here said Hue Jackson was the primary Offensive playcaller, not Cable. Which is it? Cable handles gameplans, not necessarily calling the pffense.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Cable's play calling was far worse (e.g. Cleveland 1st and goal on the 2 and Tom calls pass X 4). Plus
when DCs and OCs screw up the HC is supposed to step in and straighten them out. Guess what? Tom would just stand their and let things continue. It’s a challenge to figure out just what he did and what his role was during the games.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
Regarding the offense
It was Hue’s first year, incorporating a different offensive system(less 3 WR formations, and more running), so Cable was introduced to it his first time as well. Coaches who work with eachother don’t get great play 1 SEASON. Look at KC for example. It took them a year and a half for the coaches to get a very good grasp on the players and their involvement in the offense.
IN cleveland, That was mostly ALL on Campbell. You know this. A coach can’t gameplan anything if his QB is sucking. Plus if I remember correctly, they were stopping our running game earlier on, so he tried to do play actions and quick passes. Not smart yes, but YOu can’t expect Cab;e to have a great game EVERY WEEK.
YOu named one game, but I can tell you, that Cable did very well in more than 6 games for us this season.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
My comment referenced the 2009 season w/ TC dallying with the OC position
Who could ever forget Cable, intrigued & puzzled by the plastic laminate play sheet, groping for an answer as the game spun away
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 6, 2011 6:44 AM PST up reply actions
Any Head Coach in his first year does okay.
and in their second year, they always get slightly improved. This happened to BB. His first year with the pats, I think he went 9-7, and the next year 10-6.
Coaches get better over time, not right away. A reason why I would have kept cab;e because I believe we would have been a better team going forward.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
lets be realistic here
best case scenario here is cable stays HC and hue remains OC, but theres no way that was gunna happen when other treams are pursuing Hue for HC position. Then we have t orealize whose more valuable, Jackson with his brilliant offense or Cable who gets respect from the players but has made stupid descicions as HC. I rather hold on to Hue at the end of the day. It is unfortunate i liked cable but I like wins, next year schedule is not looking all that easy
Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden
Thank you
We’ll see that this was the only right thing to do in the end.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Remember
when Cable said “this team is a playoff team,if weren’t for our QB”?
He got rid of Jamarcus(thank god) & still couldn’t get it done.
Now,if HUE takes over(please), Campbell will strill have the same O. For this first time in years.The RAIDERS can only go up!
AL needed to cut Cable. Cable just couldn’t get over his sorry O-line.And he couldn’t make up his mind on the QB situation.(cost us the Dolphin game at least).And the playoffs and his job.
Long live AL! Go baby HUEY!
SEE Y’ALL IN THE PLAYOFFS NEXT TIME! GO RAIDERS!
Have you seen our 2011 schedule? All things being equal, we'll be fortunate to finish 8-8 again. Therefore, we need to throw
the dice, or rather, make some reasoned and significant moves. The mediocre one is gone – good start. Now let’s ditch the less-than mediocre half-human-half-rabbit DC.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Got tosay that i thought the Raiders would be the team to beat in the AFC west next year, until this.
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
Seriously...
It comes down to continuity vs. progression, and this team made way to many mistakes when it came down to clock management, challenges, and penalties. Cable played a great role, but the more that I think about it, the more I agree with this decision.
A new DC is needed for sure.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I'd agree wholeheartedly that challenges laid out were dumb,
But Cable isn’t solely in charge of challenging calls. They have guys upstairs watching that stuff. That said, Cable wasn’t the worst of the teams problems this year. The DC needs to be drawn and quartered. The Recievers Coach should be beaten publicly, then fired. The DC should then be drawn and quartered again. Hue should be forced to watch the Pittsburg and Miami games alternated with the AFC West games, until he realizes what this team is better at.
I just dont know if Jackson is ready to be a HC
If he said the flipflopping at qb was his fault he might not be ready to be the HC. I would so dearly love to see Al bring in Harbaugh. He is the only Great coach that is plausible in my mind and i dont even know if he will be Great in the NFL, but his brother sure is. If he could step back and give up control for Gruden or Cowher that would be so unbelievable i would think that Id have died. Problem is i probably would die before that would ever happen, Al has always been Al and i dont see him changing now. Jim Harbaugh could really be the answer though, especially with him know exactly what the front office is before ever coaching his first game. Sad about Cable cuz i liked the continuity, leadership, and this past draft was amazing. That being said I do think he was mediocre and we could use somebody better at play calling, but not at the loss of our chemistry and the loss of free agents (both the ones leaving and the ones we could have brought in)
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 5, 2011 10:38 AM PST reply actions
the flip flopping at quarterback was each quarterback's fault... because they both sucked.
If anything there’s more continuity with Jackson because the offense doesn’t change.
Interesting Quote from Michigan AD Dave Brandon
“I personally believe Jim Harbaugh is headed to the NFL,” Brandon said at a press conference announcing the firing of Rich Rodriguez. “My personal belief is that Jim Harbaugh is going to end up with a really, really challenging opportunity in the NFL.”
Is there a more “really, really challenging opportunity in the NFL” than being the head coach of the Oakland Raiders?
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Interestingly
Kordell Stewart was ranking the head coaching opportunities on ESPN this AM. He offered that the worst opportunity was Carolina (total disarray) and the best was the Raiders (lots of toung talent).
That said, he could make a fortune with more power and less headches by going to SF. Not sure why he would take a lot less money with little authority to come to Oakland.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
He probably wouldn't...who would?
it’s Harbaughs relationship with Al that is keeping this rumor afloat. The fact is the niners are going to give Harbaugh whatever he wants and apparently that included Trent Baalke who was rumored to be one of two GM’s that Harbaugh had approved, the other being Mike Lombardi who the niners also interviewed. So the niners are making a full push for Harbaugh and are willing to give a ton more than Al. I doubt that Harbaughs relationship with Al is that good.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
AlL things considered, I think most of the media would say Raiders
While I disagree, I believe this man refers to us too.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
We can only hope...but
there are millions of reasons Harbaugh wouldn’t come here and they’re all dollars Al won’t pay or authority Al won’t give up or a GM Al refuses to hire. Harbaugh’s looking for big money and the perfect scenario to succeed and we aren’t it and Al won’t pay.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Don't see Harbaugh at all
And he wouldn’t be a good fit right now at all. Offensive scheme would need to change, as well as personnel, which he’d want to control, which ain’t gonna happen.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Al made a huge mistake
Was the firing only to ensure Hue doesn’t leave? Maybe. But let’s be honest, Hue is a smart dude who is a minority – many teams could just be interviewing him just to fulfill the Rooney Rule. That’s the ugly side of the rule – a lot of owners will just interview guys for show, it must feel demeaning to the interviewees.
Cable was a guy the players played hard for, he loved the Raiders, and just looked like a Raider coach: a big fat, tough guy who liked to punch fools in the face. And, he got this team to .500 in less than two full seasons as head coach after so many losing years. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT, MR. DAVIS!?
This saddens me greatly. I’m not sure Hue is ready to coach, but Al is obsessed with finding those hidden coordinators and asst. coaches that will be the next young great coach. He did it with Gruden, thought he was doing it with Lane Kiffin, and probably thinks he’ll do it with Jackson, who is 45 and has never been a HC. I have my doubts.
Often wrong but never in doubt
"The whole thing was a piece of theatre. Billy had told Art how and where to stand during a game so that the players would... take strength from his countenance, because when Art sat on the bench... he looked like a prisoner of war."
-Moneyball
Raiders stats: 28th in completion % 25th in passing TD’s 23 in QB rating 28th in total receptions 22nd in total yd’s receiving 25th in 1st downs passing 25th in 3rd down conversions only 34% penaltiies 148 for 1276 yards low for penalties was 58 for 595 yds
Now post the rushing stats
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 5, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
we all know our rushing was much improved but because the other parts of our offensive plan/ability we were too one dimentional
Hahaha what?
the passing game was too one dimensional? Maybe that’s because it is one dimension.
Still, you need to compare the stats to the previous year. But even more importantly, you are presenting the stats in a skewed fashion.
You can’t use 1st downs and TDs passing when they kicked ass at getting them running. You shouldn’t use completion percentage without yards per pass attempt. They were 20th in yards per pass attempt. They don’t have a high percentage passing offense. It is not a West Coast system.
They weren’t 22nd in total yards, they were 22nd in passing yards which is totally decent when you see they are 2nd in rushing yards.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 6, 2011 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
Nevermind about the one dimensional thing, I get what you were saying now
I was confused for a minute, there.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
I love that DMC was First in gains over 20 yards.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Jacoby must be leading in TDs by Kickoff Returner
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 5, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know why anyone is surprised by this move
We all knew Hue was the next coach, I actually thought Cable was going to get the axe last year. Unless we made this move now, Hue would have left. This is Al’s guy for the future, and it was pretty clear cut that this was the direction we were going.
Now we need a DC and a new WR coach… Maybe Jerry Rice?
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Didn't most agree following the SF debacle?
arizona? Miami?
WTF?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
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