Raiders' Aaron Curry Will Start Against Browns
by Rich Langford on Oct 14, 2011 1:50 PM PDT
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PrintNew Raider Aaron Curry must be a quick learner and make a fabulous first impression. With just one practice under his belt Curry will assume starting weakside linebacker duties. Actually, I think we all know this has more to do with Quentin Groves sucking than anything Curry could have done in practice.
Having a player start after just one practice is obviously a huge liability. Extra time will have to be spent for Curry to know his assignment on a given play, and he is going to have no feel for his teammates and his teammates no feel for him.
The thing is though, weakside linebacker was already a huge liability. Curry is going to be a disaster in coverage this game, and probably every game, but the Raiders will be used to that.
via Raiders.com
I am anxious to see how Curry handle this. One of the big knocks on Curry is that he has been playing the game too much in his head, which has led him to be lost on the field.
Obvioulsy, given his task of having to learn a new playbook overnight Curry could think himself into paralyzation. On the other hand, this provides Curry a chance to say "to hell with it" and just go out and play football.
Quick draw Sons of Blanda beat me to this by two minutes. Scroll down to read about SOB doing the happy dance over this move.
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Ding dong the Groves is dead!
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
Hooray! Free at last, free at last, Thank Hue, we are free at last!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 14, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
somewhat off topic but...
ever notice how often Hue uses the word “obviously” in his press conferences?
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 14, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
There's no question that he obviously has certain phrases that
he likes to use, no doubt.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 14, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he should be the starter
next week.I would like him to practice for more than one day before starting.
RIP Al Davis
I agree and think it is most appropriate not to send him into the fire so fast without really knowing nothing about the playbook.
Nevertheless, I am willing to bet that the decision to start him is based on the notion that Hillis would otherwise be running at Groves and beating the hell out of him. Even the Seahags have noted that Curry is at least effective in stopping the run, a serious leak that the Raiders have had. In that regard, I think that starting Curry is proper. Perhaps the Raiders will put in Curry when a run is anticipated, and put in Groves otherwise. I think after 5 games it has become apparent that Groves is not the answer and they want to get Curry in shape as fast as possible, particularly since the next few games provide an easier schedule and will allow Curry to become familiar with Oakland’s style with a small risk of losing with him.
by RaiderPsycho on Oct 14, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s not like we can’t sub him out if he ends up completely lost. Clearly, Hue and Bres both see enough in Curry (or that little in Groves) to fit their scheme by Sunday.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
I'm sure the coaches know more about the LB situation
But he failed in Seattle at the Will. But what do I know. I’m just a fan.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
by gogomaplata on Oct 14, 2011 2:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Pretty sure he was strong side in Seattle
Believe in Blue.
Marshall Manning, Colts QB, 2032-
by stonewall12345678 on Oct 14, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The defensive schemes are very similar, anyway.
Curry really only has the difference in terminology to figure out. They will keep him up to speed in the defensive huddle.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
Thats terrible
Groves at least knows the playbook, Curry is already terrible in coverage, but im not so sure about this, to start him? its a risk, still its the browns but, i would rather work his way in so he gets the feel of the defense. Curry has the talent, im sure that is but will he look lost on our defense. If the reason Curry has become the starter because grooves isn’t good enough then i could understand that.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
Your last sentence pretty much answers your own question
And while groves may “know the playbook” he has consistently shown no ability to actually complete his own assignments
by lchristmas on Oct 15, 2011 12:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Groves' play last week was the last straw
If you can, go back and watch a replay of the game, or at least highlights of the Texans’ most successful plays – all of them go to the backside where Groves has coverage responsibilities and generally fails in those responsibilities.
If the Texans fullback had the same soft hands that Marcel Reece does we would have lost the game last Sunday. The FB breaks out into the flat and could have WALKED into the endzone if he hadn’t dropped the ball. Groves sold out on the play-action on the play and was nowhere to be found, even though the backside was his coverage responsibility.
That having been said, Groves’ play overall had improved from last year, and Pro Football Focus graded Groves fairly well in run defense, so I expect Groves to share snaps with Curry at WLB. Nevertheless, bringing in a guy who is and always has been an OLB who at one time was considered one of the safest picks in the draft is an improvement, so I’m very excited about the move.
Also, did everyone notice what the Raiders did? They got the Seahawks to pay Curry all of his remaining guaranteed money, and his restructured contract with us is for the pro-rated veteran minimum. His 2012 salary is not guaranteed, so if it doesn’t work we aren’t financially tied to him. Amazing.
Go Aaron Curry! GO RAIDERS!!!
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Didn't know about the salary stuff
That’s awesome!
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
You are absolutely right, and this week Cleveland will run and throw to the right and now we have a better chance to answer
Didn’t know particulars about the deal for Curry – Nice job Raider Org! GM does not seem at all like an urgent need.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 14, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If I were a gambling man
I’d say that getting Curry was completing Mr. Davis’s last deal. Mr. Davis was very high on Curry coming out of Wake Forrest. That was the player he really wanted, from what I’ve read.
This move has Mr. Davis’s finger prints all over it.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 14, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, in fact even Hue acknowledged that Davis had been watching Curry at the Seahags for some time.
It’s as though Davis was waiting for the chance to jump on him. I think this is why Hue very quickly stepped in to pick him up.
by RaiderPsycho on Oct 15, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice intervew with the kid!
He has a some Raider ties and it is a fresh start for the kid! This move should help us at least at tackling, that’s been the most frustrating thing!
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
I hope Aaron curry
does well this week for you guys (seahawks fan), i liked him alot when he was in seattle. he had some problems tackling, it was almost like he expected his body to jus knock the guy down because he would just lay into the player and not wrap up.
Honestly I dont believe he was a bad player, just his expectations were set high for being a 4th overall pick, i think you guys got a nice player, I hope he performs well here. good luck this sunday.
at first i was a little skeptical about the whole situation
but after seeing his press conference and seeing how excited he is to be a raider, i gotta say im lookin forward to seein him on sunday. one thing that really stuck out to me was when he said that in wake forrest, they only had like 2 different defensive calls the entire game and u played those as close to perfection as u could, where as in seattle he had a ton of different sets and calls and he was paralyzed by over analyzing. obviously that wont be a problem here as all we do is play man for about 90 percent of the game. either way i look for this kid to be a FORCE in the run stop game.
its not like he will play every snap.
people are so fixated on “starting”. curry might be one of those people that needs the extra confidence of the starting label, but groves will be out there plenty, im sure.
Former Cincinnati Bengals safety Chinedum Ndukwe visited the Oakland Raiders, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
He recently worked out for the New York Giants.
“The former seventh-round draft pick from Notre Dame recorded 60 tackles and one interception last season in 10 starts.
For his career, Ndukwe, 26, has registered 257 tackles, 7 1/2 sacks, 18 pass deflections, six interceptions and three forced fumbles.
In four NFL seasons, the 6-foot-2, 224-pounder has started 31 games. "
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=1117492&nid=5775632&fhn=1
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 14, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a pretty good depth guy
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
Rich how come you think he's gonna be horrible in pass coverage this game and every game curry plays ?
I can understand this game why he might be lost with just one practice under his belt but to say every game? Idk I’ve read some scouting reports of him comming out of college a lot of them said he had good instincts in pass coverage and wasn’t too shabby ? Could it have been the defense he was playing in seatte the reason why his coverage skills were so weak? What say you
by 209raider on Oct 14, 2011 4:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Curry is horrible in pass coverage
JoshDubowAP Josh Dubow
by PGutierrezCSN
Aaron Curry’s pass D #s according to STATS: QBs 8-8 on passes his way in ’11; 62-76 for 613 yards and 6 TDs for his career
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 14, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Honest question
how do they determine who he’s covering when he’s in a soft zone?
I doubt Mora or Carroll, two Tampa 2 guys really put Curry man up on people. The whole “burn rate” stat is good for CBs that play a lot of man like Routt and Revis. Not so much for strong side OLBs in a Tampa 2 where they could have WRs crossing their zone and creating a mismatch.
He might not be great in coverage, but we don’t play the same defense the Seacocks do, either.
BTW, Nnamdi’s Pass D stats look like shit so far this year, yet they looked amazing last year. I wonder how much scheme has to do that…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 14, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering if he was matched up against TE and Backs or WR
Most backers have a difficulty with cover WR’s
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
Most backers will struggle with TEs and certain RBs, too.
There isn’t an LB in football that can cover DMC, and there might be 2 that can cover Reece.
If he’s in a Cover 2 Zone drop, curls to the outside WR are likely completed in his zone, which, if I’m a OC, I’m flooding with that outside curl and a TE seam, anyway.
A friend of mine once said this. “Statistics are like a bikini, what they cover up is usually more interesting than what they reveal.”
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 14, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
CB's have had their trouble with DMac!
Good line
A friend of mine once said this. "Statistics are like a bikini, what they cover up is usually more interesting than what they reveal."
Even though I love breaking down stats when it’s possible
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
i think Patrick Willis could cover DMC
not that he could shut him down, but he wouldn’t get burned as easily as the remaining 99.999% of the LB’s in the league. But trying to cover DMC and Reece on the same play…now that’s down right impossible for any LB core
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 15, 2011 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Willis is a beast!
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
that he is, i would say hands down the most complete LB in the league. He’s not as dominant a force in the run game as Ray Lewis was in his prime (not many have been/will be), but he certainly makes up for that with his phenomenal speed translating into coverage skills.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 15, 2011 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions
He's a man corner that's playing 99% Zone
As soon as they get a real D-coordinator I think he’ll return to form.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Oct 15, 2011 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I completely agree
The DC in Philly should have been a DC. This is what happens when your promote your OL coach to DC. You cater your system to the players you have, why would you take the best press man cover corner in the league and play him off in a zone where he’s doing something he was rarely asked to do? We made a similar mistake with DeAngelo Hall, trying to make him play press man.
Both Mora and Carroll try to show multiple looks on defense, rather than just keeping it “you line up here, your keys are the back-side guard, qb, and running back, find the ball and destroy the guy holding it.” This stunted Curry’s growth into an NFL LB. Everyone says he lacked “football instincts” in Seattle. I think his instincts are just fine, but they deprived him of following those instincts by making him think too much. Hue and Bres won’t do that.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 15, 2011 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
NEVER have been a DC...
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 15, 2011 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed, Curry has gotten a bum rap
Of course, I don’t think any Raiders fans are complaining…all of that negative press simply made him that much easier and less costly to obtain.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 15, 2011 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions
This is pretty interesting
Via Wikipedia
“Barton was adopted and met his brother, Aaron Curry, a linebacker for the Oakland Raiders, and his birth mother, Chris Curry, for the first time October 30, 2010.”
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
Eric Barton is his brother
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
He was saying Barton was
more excited than he was that he’s now a Raider. Says Barton should be there tomorrow morning to show him around the town.
The fact that Barton played with Bieks probably helps, too.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 14, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I just listened to that. Seems like a perfect situation for him.
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
This was one of those things that went under the radar!
Good stuff definitely a plus!
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
Great Interview!! He looks very excited to be here!! (or just away from seattle)
but no seriously, i expect him to do well here!!
I’m also happy for BLACKSTOCK who might see some 1st team action this Sunday!!!
i’m interested to see what else Hue has planned before the deadline……Cornerback or Free Safety maybe?
CAN’T WAIT! (Bart Scott Voice)
BEING 8-8 IS OK "IF THAT'S THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN" - COACH AL DAVIS
by The MoonMan 804 on Oct 14, 2011 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
I bet they sign Ndukwe
He’s pretty good for depth
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
Some of our defense is dropping like flies...
We need bodies he has some nice size…
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
I THINK!
Throw him into the fire! Groves hasnt been an impact player and we should without a doubt dominate the browns. However many snaps he ends up playing he can always know his assignment by way of radio or another player. lets see what he’s got!!! Remember he’s going down as a bust if he tanks with us and he’s getting the only thing that could save his career! A CHANCE! Just thesame thing Al would do! lets see what he’s got! RAIDERS!!!
I even cum Black & Silver...
by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Oct 14, 2011 6:01 PM PDT reply actions
Currys media session has got me pumped up
I think hes gonna do great here!!!
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 14, 2011 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
New home new start
Silver and Black! Just Dominate Baby!
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
I just watched it again
Awesome to see that he was certifiably beaming to be a Raider, from watching that seems to me there is no doubt that he will do everything in his power to become what he has the natural ability to become.
My only concern may be that he might be too jacked up on Sunday and make some mistakes although it is probably to be expected considering he only got here yesterday. I think we have to be patient but he seems like another great kid and has Raider in his blood!
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
RIP Mr Davis 1929 - 2011
After he smahes someone he will settle down...
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
Aye
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 14, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Great.
Just what we need. More unnecessary penalties. I’d rather he do nothing than smash someone and give up 15 yards.
by resident troll on Oct 15, 2011 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions
ill take a 15 yard penalty all day long if it makes the RB/QB hesitate for the rest of the game, that’s good old fashion Raider defense
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 15, 2011 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions
+1!
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
RIP Mr Davis 1929 - 2011
And how did that work when Seymour did it against the Pats? Oh yeah, it didn’t. No penalties please.
by resident troll on Oct 15, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That roughing the passer penalty was BS
even Brady said it shouldnt have been a penalty.
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 15, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
yup
if that was anybody not named Brady, Manning (Peyton, that is), or Rodgers it’s a no call. God forbid they lose ratings if one of those players gets injured in a violent sport, just the world we live in…
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson
by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 15, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That wasn't the only penalty he committed that day
By playing way too aggressive.
by resident troll on Oct 15, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That was the only penalty he commited
that could be considered intimidating.But it wasnt, because it wasnt a penalty, even Brady said that he set him down softly and it shouldnt have been a penalty.
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 15, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Bring on the Sledge Hammer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUtzmgg-pa4&feature=related
I will never recover from Al Davis saying, "I should never have fired Art Shell"
Damn!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 15, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
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