What Do We Know About The Upcoming Raider and Chief Match-Up?
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 19, 2011 6:59 PM PDT
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PrintOther than the fact that this is the most significant game that the Oakland Raiders have played since 2003, what else do we know about the upcoming AFC West battle with our fierce rivals the Chiefs?
First, I want to point out some classy posts by Chief fans over the past two weeks:
Here's to a great game and hopefully an injury-free game on both sides. Football. Chiefs vs Raiders. Just the way both Lamar and Al would have wanted it. - upamtn
There are certain people in certain moments of history who do things that no one else could have or would have. Al Davis would fall into this category. His strength of will and desire to win had more of an impact on the AFL and NFL than perhaps any other individual. - MNChiefsfan
The AFC West has the best rivalries in the NFL, bar-none even though we dislike each others team there’s a time and place for the rivalry, and this isn’t the time.
See you guys in a couple of weeks and for today I’ll say something I’ve never said:
"Go Raiders". - THE_TRUTH
I know that each of us on S&BP have much more respect for our rivalry after these thoughts put to words made their ways to our site. Thank you for that. This truly is just a game and to play a respected opponent is to have a true football game.
Now let's take a look at some numbers that will make this game one of those where you throw out the records and then again maybe some that show an advantage:
The Raiders are riding an eight game winning streak against the AFC West with their last loss being at home against the Chiefs almost two years ago (Nov 15th, 2009).
Since that loss nearly two years ago the Raiders have outscored the Chiefs 54-20, including a demeaning 31-10 thrashing that some look at as a reason for their poor performance in the fist round of the 2010 Playoffs. I am sure that the Chiefs have had this date circled for awhile.
The Chiefs are coming off of a BYE week. With the Raiders in Quarterback flux, this may prove to be an advantage for the Chiefs because the offense will be more of a base offense which is what they have been preparing to defend for two weeks.
On the statistical side of things, the Chiefs look pretty bad:
The Chiefs are 26th in yards per game, while the Raiders are 11th averaging nearly 70 yards more per game, 372-313.
The Chiefs are only averaging 15.7 points per game while the Raiders are averaging 26.7
The Raiders are averaging .5 yards more per carry than the Chiefs, 5.1 - 4.6
On the defensive side of things, the Chiefs are last in the League in points allowed with 30 per game while the Raiders are giving up 25.
As far as INT/FF/PDef/Sacks the numbers look like this:
Oakland 5/4/47/16
KC 5/4/31/5
Looks like defensive front four of Oakland does a better job of getting after the quarterback and the defense overall does a better job of knocking the balls down.
As far as strength of schedule to this point, the Raiders have lost to the Bills and Patriots and the Chiefs have lost to the Bills, Lions and Chargers.
The Raiders have beaten the Jets, Texans, Browns and Broncos while the Chiefs have struggled to beat Minnesota at home and the Colts on the road.
Both teams are facing tremendous losses as the Chiefs have lost their dynamic running back, Jamaal Charles and their Pro-Bowl safety, Eric Berry, while the Oakland Raiders have lost their starting quarterback, Jason Campbell and most improved D-Lineman, Matt Shaughnessy.
As Hue Jackson says, this is a "Next Man Up" league and the Raiders will be relying on Desmond Bryant and either Carson Palmer or Kyle Boller (Hue has said that no starter has been named) and the Chiefs will be relying on Jackie Battle who ran for 119 yards last week.
We all know that we can can throw out the records and the stats when these two play, but, is there anything that you'd like to add?
Cheers,
Saint
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Both SD games were pretty awesome for me
my dads a chargers fan.
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 19, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL.
Cassel was curling up on the ground by the second quarter. That’s why it was so sweet.
by ROFLCOPTER16 on Oct 19, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
lmao!
my pops is a Rams fan, and occasional Raider hater, but deep down would like our Raiders to be the team he remembers mostly from the great era.
My bro will be attending in the Black Hole with me; my bday gift to him. He’s a Chiefs fan. Last year was pretty cool, but I wasn’t in the Black Hole.
These games always have a playoff atmosphere.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
you must have been adopted....
Come at me bro, and I will throw a 2 yard screen pass to my running back, come at me bro.
McFadden could set the single game rushing record this game
by Hundredthousanddollarpluswhipmaster on Oct 19, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions
McFadden won't get the rushing record.
Hue knows how to spell McFadden. Bush comes in ever 3rd series and gets all of the short yardage and goal line carries. Raider Nation would love to see the record, but the coaching staff wants a healthy McFadden for the whole season. If Oakland gets a good lead, count on seeing a little more of Taiwan Jones. That’s who I think we should get on the field to get some experience. We all know what McFadden is capable of. We want to see how deep we are at other positions.
At WR, 1st time in a long time, we have a deep bench. DHB, D. Moore, J. Ford, Schilens, Hagen, Murphy. All of these guys are finally healthy and can play.
Offensive line, Velhdeer, Wisniewski, Satele, Carlisle, Barnes. Bruce Campbell and Barksdale are talented young offensive linemen. Heyer seems to be a very good FA pick up.
Defensive Line, Houston, Kelly, Seymour, Shaghnaussey, Henderson, Bryant, Moss, Scott, has our defensive line ever been this deep before?
Raider Nation knows that we’re short on draft picks next year. But I can definitely see someone at the WR position traded to get additional picks.
Chiefs have a tough front seven. This promises to be a physical battle
I’ll be watching the trenches in this one. That will tell the story. If Veldheer can have a strong game with assistance from running backs chipping against Hali and their front four like last year, we’ll likely emerge victorious.
I feel confident our defense can come up strong against their offense without their premier weapon in Charles. They’ll be prepared to go four quarters with us, but we’ll be ready for what they bring to the table.
Raiders win, 27-13.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Over on Arrowhead Pride
They’re saying our D isn’t scary. I want what they’re smoking. Must be some good stuff.
You espouse as if we have a dominant defense...
We have a lot to prove as a defense… It’s the offense and special teams that they should be scared of…
PTS 25.0 (25th)
YDS 396.7 (28th)
PASS YDS 283.5 (28th)
RUSH YDS 113.2 (16th)
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
But Look At That Schedual...4 High Ranked Teams "NE"/Buffalo/Houston/Jets...2 Ducks!!
Our “D” was really up against it while dealing with the injuries and rookies and late players additions and new systems being installed without the benefits of a proper off season…Now we’re seeing the improvements…I say just give it a little time…
Do we consider this team elite? The 2011 D of Raiders have play good in spots...
How many times have you yelled when the D gave up third and long? We have had patchwork secondary all season and this week appears to be no different. The D has been making improvements but have you watched Dwayne Bowe? Dude is a beast! We still win this game but the D needs to tackle. we have given up over 400+ to every good team…
Denver – 25 first downs 310 yards 3 TO
Buffalo – 34 first downs 481 yards 1 TO
NYJ – 25 first downs 439 yards 2 TO
NEP – 25 first downs 409 yards 0 TO
Hou – 21 first downs 473 yards 2 TO
Cle – 18 first downs 268 yards 1 TO
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
We Play Way Better
then what our stats say, we are blitzing more and i like it!! KC best be ready for alot of pressure because it coming whether you like it or not!!! They shouldn’t be worried about our D they should be more worried about Shane Lechler, because he clearly is a better QB then Cassel lol.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Our D has played very good in the last two games imo
we shut down the run, gave up alot of passing yards, but that was because we were playing with the lead late in those games.Only gave up 20 and 17 points in the last 2 games too.
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be surprised if raiders didn’t win by 14. SMASH em!!!!! I’m sure matt cassel is still having nightmares from last year. The fans might not think the d is scary but the chiefs offense sure ass hell are afraid. Be afraid of run DMc as well.
by RaiderKilluminati on Oct 19, 2011 7:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
It will be another nail biter
Statistics be damned. Injuries will not matter. Both teams despise each other, as the whole west does. It will be a physical game decided on the little things, i.e. special teams and key stops. Turnovers may be an issue as well. Our D Line will scare the shit out of them by the time the game is over. Our problem will be the offense. I know everyone says to run the ball, but I really think that plays into the Chiefs game plan. Teams that stack the box usually bottleneck DMC, cutting his gains. The Browns did it when Campbell went down. The Texans did it in spite of Jason. We need the QB play to determine this one, and sadly I don’t think we are ready yet. Palmer is new and Boller is Boller. Any off pass will get picked. I suspect a good dose of DMC and Bush is the only thing we can do, but I would like the threat of the pass as well. Oh well. I think the Raiders are the superior team and should win. But it won’t be easy. QB play will hurt us this game. I hope I’m wrong though. If Palmer is on (or Boller) this game won’t be close at all. Love these division games :P
by lakers007raiders on Oct 19, 2011 7:46 PM PDT reply actions
Hey Jack Ass
we all know your defense is scary, well in the front 4 for sure. Stirring the pot from one comment, meh, typical Faider Fan! :). Seriously though as a realist I wouldn’t take the Chiefs with 5/1 odds but I love Raider week and surely hope we mop the floor with your ugly asses. Likely, no, but one can always hope. Congrats on Palmer. I think it was a good move, and at least you have a coach who is in it to win it. I just hope he still needs to shake the rust off this week. Here’s to arguably the best rivalry in football! Go Chiefs
Come at me bro, and I will throw a 2 yard screen pass to my running back, come at me bro.
You're so right about Palmer being "the right move" and our asses being ugly. I'm stoked for this one in the Hole because
I’m sick of “Just Winning” and will finally witness a blowout this season … then, Sunday night, I’ll be contented and sleep soundly.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 19, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Believe it or not
It was a featured Fanpost that said that our D was not scary. Apparently you aren’t drinking that Kool-aid, I give you props.
by ROFLCOPTER16 on Oct 19, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It isn't yet
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
No matter how good or bad these teams are
Raider vs. Chiefs is almost always a tough one that comes down to the wire. When the season started, I thought this was a sure fire win, but the last couple of weeks have been rough. I’m still expecting a win, but I won’t say this game is incredibly significant. Even with a loss we’ll be at 4-3 with 9 games left to play and 4 division games.
This is going to be a tough week considering we have two QBs splitting reps. One has great potential, but was essentially retired for the last 6 weeks, doesn’t know the team that well, nor the playbook. The other is more familiar with everyone and the whole system, but he’s a back-up for a reason.
We embarrassed the Chiefs in their house at the end of last season. They might be hurting too, but they’re going to bring it hard. A win for us will be huge. But a loss, however crappy it’ll feel (especially considering the rivalry) can be survived and overcome.
Dont know why you'd go to the
“if we lose we’d still be 4-3” card.
If we can’t beat a depleted chief team at home we dont deserve to be blackboarding playoff scenarios.
Lets just annihilate them instead.
by lchristmas on Oct 19, 2011 8:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
It's simple
We’re depleted pretty hard too. Our starting QB? Gone. Our new QB? Been with the team about 36 hours. Our secondary? It’s like a patchwork of whatever we could pull together. Shaunessey? Out for the season. Marcel Reese has been out awhile. Satele is battling injuries. The heart and soul of everything Raiders died less than two weeks ago.
I expect us to win this game, but we’ve got a lot of adversity to overcome to do it. All I’m saying is if we do lose I won’t go screaming that the sky is falling.
But I’m hoping we just annihilate them instead. I guess I’m just trying to temper my expectations after a rough couple of weeks.
And besides all that
I never, ever take division games lightly. I don’t care who is better on paper.
Your Perceptions Are A Bit Misdirected Me Thinks!!!
Sometimes in the sports environment many of the things your viewing as possible devastating adversities are really game inspiring events that push a man to his highest level of higher…If you catch that vibe you will be right there with this team as it rides this “Energy Storm” fueled by the Spirit of Al Davis…This is real…Damn Real!!!
by PantyRaider on Oct 20, 2011 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Props to Saint, he must have researched hard to find those rare quotes.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 19, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
RIP Mr Davis 1929 - 2011
palmer is THE man!
The Raiders have been waiting for a coach like Hue since GRuden. I think the old man finally felt like he could leave this world with his beloved Raiders in the hands of the man he personally picked. Hue is Gruden,Madden,Flores and Davis in one package.
To KC and thier fans...
Thanks for the well wishes and such. When Lamarr and Al were building this thing Im sure they had an idea of just how big it could be. Two organizations werre never more entwined than ours. I hope no further injuries befall our clubs on Sunday. I would wish you luck..but you know.
Well said, bigmark.
Now, with that outta the way…C’mon, Raiders!!. I expect to see nothing less than a brutal Chief beatdown!. I want Seymore and the boys to hit Cassel so hard, his mama feels it!!.
No, Just Win Baby, this week…Just Dominate!.
"Well, when you're playing good football, it's good football and if you don't have good football, then you're not really playing good football."-John Madden
by black patch and silver swords on Oct 19, 2011 9:04 PM PDT reply actions
Just a quick question
Any one know if the game is Soldout yet? I hope it is because I really wanna see it on TV on Sunday.
"The Silver and Black are Back" -Greg Papa 2002 AFC Championship game
Odds are it will be.
Hasn’t been announced yet.
by ROFLCOPTER16 on Oct 19, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that today was the last day to sell out but I hope your right and it will sell out.
"The Silver and Black are Back" -Greg Papa 2002 AFC Championship game
Usually its thursday that games must sell out
by MightyRaider on Oct 19, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The506.com
Has the nfl distribution maps every week. Very helpful.
by lchristmas on Oct 20, 2011 6:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Firstrowsports.tv
Has all of them free.
by ROFLCOPTER16 on Oct 20, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Internet broadcast
better than nothing
but they always seem to cut out a lot and at the worst times.
Like Ford’s run back, I only saw the end of it with him jumping into the Black Hole—although, that was kind of cool too in a way.
Also
sucks, if you are on the 1st half or 2nd half thread while the game is going on an the internet broadcast has its 5-10 second delay and everyone one on the thread is calling the play that happened and you didn’t even see it yet. Happened to me when Boss scored on that fake FG. Thats why i try not to look at the thread unless its on tv.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
lol yeah
sometimes it screws up the feed on the broadcast.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
tehsideshow Nick Paulsen
by CorkOnTheNFL@
@CorkOnTheNFL my ticket rep told me that Mark Davis assured them on sell outs from now on. I think he plans to buy and donate like Niners
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 19, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Boyd re-signs to practice squad
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
Lito? He's done
Could we please stop with all of the Lito Shepard, TO and Tatupu talk. So glad we didn’t bring any of these has been in. If you watched the preseason, Lito barely made it onto the field and when he was in, he looked lost.
yeah lito is done.
by now he would have had a team, clearly he is done and i think he just doesn’t have any in the tank
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Replaced by
Ndukewe
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Palmer trade worth the price?
absof*#$inlutely!! Even if he doesnt work out it was worth the risk. We are a young team and dont really need more youth. We needed a top notch QB and dang if we didnt get one. Hue has done everything he said he would do so far and I think he will get us to the playoffs. We are winning despite ourselves sometimes that is the begginng of a good team. Plus our speedy WR were going to waste, now they should come alive like a barrel of fire.
I think Palmer will help out a lot with the offensive penalties,
more veteran experience and leadership to bring the young group together…Pure speculation, but I’m waiting to see how it works out
by MightyRaider on Oct 19, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Well those kind of mistakes may be more
prevelant in his first few games getting used to everybody but I think for the most part it should be pretty smooth transition. JC was always calling timeouts ’cause the tying to get the team lined up right.
i don't know man...
that Lechler to Boss combo could have been epic….
on a George Blanda tip ;)
Bo knows the Chiefs can suck it...
Yup
we have a lot of youth, now its time to build vets around the youth
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
A must-win game
Three home games in a row. One down, two to go. None of them are easy no matter how many strengths you have and how many weaknesses your opponents have.
Nintendo, Yoshi, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fan.
Man…I’m just not sure what you guys see in us…I mean I’m really hoping to win this game…but KC is coming off 2 back to back wins…the last down by close to 21…they are looking at this game as a chance to get back in the race for the West…witch they can with a win…sorry but our D is not looking so great…better over the last two games…but that being said it was the Browns for god sake…not exactly a great O…so yes we should win…but I’ll take a ugly win…and I think KC will be in our ass all game and it will come down to the end of the 4th…
Who Did "KC" Beat???....Minn -n- Indy Who Can't Win A Game???
I will give them this: They played “SD” tough and are coming off the Bye so prolley healthy and had time to prepare…Aside from that this match-up and this energy speaks very loudly to a Raider "V"in our house!!!…
by PantyRaider on Oct 20, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
My Game Match-Up Report As Usual: Power Poll: Raiders #11 -v- "KC" #23 Tie
Raiders vs KC “O”-vs-“D”
“O”-#11………………………….“D”-#19
Pass-#24………………………..Pass-#17
Rush-#2………………………….Rush-#21
Scoring-#7………………………Scoring-#28 Tie
“OL”-#3………………………….Sacks-#31
…………………………………….Int’s-#16 Tie
Punting-#8 53.1yd ave
“D”-#28…………………………..“O”-#26
Pass-#28…………………………Pass-#29
Rush-#16…………………………Rush-#6
Scoring-#28 Tie…………………Scoring-#29
Sacks-#8 Tie…………………….“OL”-#11
Int’s-#16 Tie
……………………………………..Punting-#15 43.2yd ave
Offensive Comparison
KC vs Raiders
Total Yards Per Game
303.6
372.8
Passing Yards Per Game
176.2
212.8
Rush Yards Per Game
127.4
160.0
Points Per Game
15.4
26.7
Third Down Conversion %
36.9
41.0
Time of Possession
1641.0
1821.0
Defensive Comparison
Total Yards Per Game Allowed
369.2
396.7
Passing Yards Per Game Allowed
249.6
283.5
Rush Yards Per Game Allowed
119.6
113.2
Points Per Game Allowed
30.0
25.0
Third Down Conversion % Allowed
43.5
43.4
according to Bleacher Report
CP will be starting this Sunday. Also from the same source: Hue is calling the trade for Palmer, “the greatest trade in football.”
You're a little late to the party, bro
Hue made that “greatest trade” comment in the press conference yesterday. He talked about possibly starting CP this Sunday in today’s press conference. You can see them both on Raiders.com media section.
I see you just registered your account a couple of days ago. Welcome to SBP.
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
Palmer or not...
this is a game, we’re very likely to win. Cassel makes good throws as long he has time. He won’t have that against our front four. Also, with their #1 RB and Berry injured, they lack two of their premier players. Their D without Berry is way below average and it’s in the Hands of only Cassel and Bowe to win the game for them. In my mind, won’t happen.
"Assault and battery? Come on, his life was never in danger. [...] Lynn Swann? Soft."
by trentemoeller on Oct 20, 2011 2:23 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Time For That "52" "D" Again...No Room To Run -w- Great Preasure From The Front 5...
Curry fits this very well…Whimbley can play at “DE” and “DeathRo” in the middle…Than too our new “S” will make his presence felt as well…
It's all about pressure on Cassel
This clearly worked in the past and this is something we must continue to do. Raider Nation is going to need to have patience with Palmer. He will be rusty, but he will make some plays that will have us smiling, big times. Plenty of McFadden and Bush, have Palmer dump off the ball more to the RB and TEs while he’s getting comfortable with this offense. When he’s ready to go down field, I have all the confidence in the world on our WRs. They will make the plays.
Defense needs to keep improving. Coaching staff did a very good job of using Curry in run situations last week. Mitchell came in for Curry on obvious passing downs. Once again, our Coaching staff put Curry in a position to succeed. To build his confidence. That’s great!
Pressure On Cassel
will be the key in this upcoming game, Cassel is one of the QB’s that usually crumbles when pressure is in his face, He better get that ball off with out Safety blitz’s. Even if he does it will be off balanced and most likely intercepted.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Shut down the run early like we have the past two games
against much much much better RBs, get a two score lead to force the pass, unleash the line and send the safeties.
RIP Al Davis
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 20, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I See Penalties
Every rival game for the raiders there are penalties. Raiders is the one doing most of it, we need to stay penalty free as much as possible. KC & Raiders? Expect a hard fought battle to the end, both teams hate each other with a passion. Lot of grinding between the trenches will stir up some fights. One of the biggest rivalries in the NFL. Raider fans vs Chief fans lol, The whole stadium will be in a battle. Regardless of KC’s record or who they are missing, its going to be a good one, we ruined them before they went to the playoffs in front of their own crowd, I’m sure they want payback. Also with the trade of Palmer? I think everyone is eager to see what he can do, This game should be on Sunday night football, with all the rumors etc about Palmer, it makes it even more exciting.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
Penalties!?
No way…lol
...Watching DeMarcus Cousins’ transformation from large human to immortal kill beast...
Believe me dude
Penalties will be crazy in this game. Also Raiders lead the league in Penalties.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe you may have fallen into
I have no doubt the field will be peppered with yellow flags ANY time the Raiders play….
...Watching DeMarcus Cousins’ transformation from large human to immortal kill beast...
Rivalries
Always considered KC to be the Raiders “respected” rivalry, sure there is a lot of fire and emotion but I never felt hatred for the Chiefs… for hatred it has to be the damn Broncos i #$%!ng hate that team and their city and their lame fight songs… oh yah and the Chargers, meh I don’t even consider them rivals, They are in the division and all but lets get serious if the NFC stole them instead of Seattle would it really have mattered? *smirks
See now I'm just the opposite
I hate the fucking queefs and always respected the donks because of Elway. As for SD I prefer SD in the Div because of all the SD and LA Raider fans swelling the stands at Qualcom. Just as much silver and black as boltheads when the Raiders come to SD.
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
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