We will only go as far as our Defense takes us.
It has been a very emotional 10 days or so for the Raider Nation, Mr Davis passed away which has been especially hard on some of us like myself, we had an emotional victory in Houston followed by a victory at home against the Browns in which the unthinkable happened and our starting QB went down................
So we have a new Quarterback! I think despite some, myself included who still have a bitter taste in their mouths about the price however this is obviously a very exciting time in the Raider Nation.
But our offence has always been pretty good and has scored enough points in each game for us to be 5-1, we will only go as far as our defence takes us and unfortunately that is one area this trade does not help. In reality we are still at the mercy of our DB and LB play, we have obviously made some moves in these area which if pay off could signal a deep run. would we have been better off trading for Orton and sending a first somewhere for a DB? maybe but it doesn't matter now.
There have been some pretty concerning times on defence with fistly allowing the second half comeback in Buffalo, Allowing the last minute drive in Houston and giving the Browns a chance to steal it last week.
We have also made a couple of moves on the defensive end adding Curry and Ndukwe. I have to be honest I dont know much about Ndukwe but seems like a slight upgrade over Boyd (as much as that pains me as a Ducks fan) and Curry at minimum seems like at least an upgrade over Groves and physically has the gifts to be an impact player
The bottom line is that while we have made some improvements on offense the biggest issue for this team this season has still been stopping the run and corner play so no matter how improved the offense may be and how much press the offense is getting with Mr Palmer behind centre we are not going to win games especially playoff games with out some major improvements on the defensive side of the ball. Obviously our D-Line is beastly and If Breshanan, Woodson and Biekert can get better play our of the LB and Corners over the next few weeks with the biggest test against the Chargers I will be convinced that this team is capable of making a deep run.
We basically blew our load on the offense and looks pretty set now assuming Carson is still THE Carson Palmer the success of this season will very much fall on the defence
PS. I know we have all been getting preoccupied with the trade etc but please do not forget to continue the remembrance of Mr Davis.
RIP Mr Davis.
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I think bringing Lito Shep back in could go along way in suring up our defense...(i say we are 1 or 2 solid FA pickups away)
we struggled against the spread offense so far this year. but i do see some improvement.
"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Coach Hue Jackson
So, Raider Nation, it is time to get on board the Hue Train or get the Hell off for good! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If a 7th combined with a 4th or 5th rounder get's you Aaron Curry (a former 1st rd. pick) instead of a couple of crap-shoot draft picks, & if dealing away a couple of first rounder's gives the team a better opportunity to fully implement Hue Jackson's game plan, then you should be happy, because this team is standing behind their motto, "Just Win Baby" and it is the furthest thing from "Suck for Luck". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that!?!
Cheers,
- Saint
by The MoonMan 804 on Oct 20, 2011 7:46 AM PDT reply actions
Flashes
The D has had flashes, but yet to play sold for a whole game. I have to remind myself sometimes that other teams will move the ball and score some points. The letting teams come close in the fourth quarter needs to stop. Of course kicking a filed goal last week and going up by 17 would have ended the game. That one is on Hue.
Before Tuesday I was saying the Raiders would go as far as Jason Campbell could take us - Jason's ceiling was our own
So we go to the next weakest key link …. You sight the D then more specifically LBs and DBs.
With the removal of Groves and addition of Curry (a double-fix) we improved a lot and McClain’s game pick-up playing next to a real LB too.
CJ being out hurt us more than I would have thought – DvD is not impressing me in a good way. Once CJ and Chekwa come back CB play will improve. I’m feeling better about our D overall but they still have too many tackles broken through arm tackling / not following through.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 20, 2011 11:12 AM PDT reply actions
This defense has made huge strides the last 2 weeks
The d scheme is getting more complex and these players are learning how to play together in that scheme.
I was petrified of this d over the first month. I am getting more comfortable with it.
So, I will say that the potential is there for this defense to be a playoff winning defense. Although, I am not yet quite sold that it is. At least the hope is there now.
Slithering along the edge of a straight razor.
Yea Rich, but tell me your ass didnt take a suction on whatever you were sitting on
when the Browns went those 95 yards…eating up 12-15 yard chunks with throws from a QB we had held to 100 yds passing thru almost 4 complete quarters…
That was a let down.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Oct 21, 2011 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions
That's the reality of it. Like at Buffalo, Cleveland scores on the last drive and it's either OT or they go for 2.
All afternoon, watching from the Hole, with our D’s back to us, I watched as Moss and McClain continued to get to the ball-carrier only to have him pass through their unfinished tackles. We have to FINNISH our tackles, players have to swarm to the ball.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 21, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, finish the tackles! I had these two turds from Cleveland pounding the bar next to me after every completion.
I kept seeing the ringworms flowering on that drive….I knew they would score. Sickening feeling. I cant imagine what you must have felt in the Black Hole watching it for real. You said the crowd mood had a sea change after the blown 4th and 1.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Oct 21, 2011 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Until the D finally dug its heels for the great stand, there wasn't much to cheer about that last Quarter.
Just Boller to DHB two or three times.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 21, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Not just at the Browns
None of the games were put away early no matter how much of a lead we had. Broncos, Jets, Browns, and Houston all went down to the wire.
Slighty Goes To The Defense
If we plan on winning in the playoffs, defense will carry most of the load. I mean Defense wins championship right? Clearly for us, it will be them to stop the Patriot offense, Steelers deep threat game, ravens running game, or bills offensive attack. Yes it is obvious we can score against these teams, but im not sure we can’t outscore them because our style of play. Raiders manage the game by running the ball (wearing down the defense), QB is no gunslinger, but keeps the ball moving and eventually end up scoring (Hopefully), and during all that time we keep the opposing team off the field while keeping the opposing teams defense on the field. It works very well especially if you execute it well as we do. This leaves all the pressure on the D, they have to be able to answer the call on every possession. Our D’s role is different, we have to try to make the other team one dimensional by stopping the Run or Pass. Sounds hard to do with all the teams in the playoffs i mentioned. Oz is correct though, our D is basically how far we go.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
I think the D has knocked off the rust from the lockout.
I was expecting the D to regress at times, which they did against Buffalo, and I don’t feel bad over it because I tended to feel where they were at, and they had solid games with the Texans and Browns – I expect the trend to continue. I believe if we were to replay Buffalo the outcome would be different. The D-line is solid. With Curry, we made an important repair at LB (Briggs anyone?). I still think if we are to compete in the playoffs our CBs need to improve. Remember DVD and Chekwa are rookies who have hardly reached their ceilings. To say that they are to stagnate at the current level they are playing is poor analytic vision. They might remain there but I expect more improvement. Both players can shadow the wrs with good precision. Chekwa seems to be able to make plays on the ball better than DVD, but don’t be surprised if DVD starts pulling the trigger soon enough. If these two players continue to progress, particularly before we reach the playoffs, expect us to be competitive.
If DvD continues to play like he has we may not reach the playoffs. I know he's a rookie but we often start rookies but given
a choice between CJ, Chekwa or DvD the latter should be 3rd on the chart.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 20, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think DVD has made significant strides in coverage
His biggest issue at the moment is that he can’t bring guys down. Even the best corners have completeions made in them, if my memory serves me correct Stan has had a TD completed on hin each of the last 3 games but if you have guys getting extra YAC that can be a back breaker.
by Ozraider on Oct 20, 2011 8:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
One Thing
that i like about DVD is when it comes down to clutch moments. For some odd reason, it seems teams clearly go for Routt? Even though, Routt is our top CB. DVD is hardly targeted toward clutch parts of the game. What Ive seen that is positive about DVD is that he is looking for the ball now, but he is clearly lucky that the defense brings enough pressure to throw off the throws of the QB, If not he is clearly getting shaked on double moves.
RAIDER NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 20, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's not what I'm seeing. McCoy went to the endzone on DvD - it was dropped. Routt is thrown on but is all over his guy
nobody can stop perfectly thrown passes leading fast receivers with good hands.
… That’s why Mad Palmer is gonna make Jacoby a super-star.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 20, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
Damn fine point. I didn’t think of that at all. Ford was forced to wait or come back for Jason’s passes. Is it possible for Palmer to lead him better? Can you imagine the implications? That sounds so damn cool, I will calm down now. DVD is learning life as an NFL CB is very hard. It’s a great experience for him, terrible for us fans :P Here’s hoping the other guys get healthy soon (except maybe CJ, don’t like his penalties).
by lakers007raiders on Oct 20, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe that at this time, CJ>Chekwa>DVD.
However, I also believe that in the near future, Chekwa>CJ.
by RaiderPsycho on Oct 21, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Our defense moving forward will be much better than what we saw in the beginning of the season.
Defense in the NFL is a lot about confusing the quarterback and keeping him pressured. Our weakness before was playing pure man to man with limited variation and we didn’t blitz very often. Teams knew how to game plan against us. Things have changed since Al passed away, as Corkoran mentioned in his article. Our team has been playing more zone and blitzing more often with lots of success. I remember being wowed by our defense during the Texans game; we shut down Arian Foster of all people!
Rush Defense: Since 2003 we’ve been consistently ranked in the bottom 10, usually in the bottom 5 for rush defense. Our best rank since 2003 was 22nd back in 2004. Going into the Houston game we were ranked in the bottom 5 of the league in rush yards allowed per game and ranked the worst in yards allowed per attempt. But in the last two games, we’ve allowed a measly ~68 yards/game and 2.95 yds/attempt bringing us up to 16th. 2 games is a very small sample size and we’re only 6 games into the season; but I’m confident that we’re going to put up our best rush defense numbers this year since 2002.
Pass Defense: We’re 3rd best in the league at allowing only a 53.5% completion rate to our opponents. Not bad, eh? If you remember the Pats game, we held Brady to 53.3% completion percentage; his lowest of the season. We’re also 10th best in yards allowed per attempt at 6.5ypa. So, then you ask, why are we ranked 28th in passing yards allowed/game? Well my friends, that’s because teams love to pass against us. Our opponents pass on ~66% of their plays against us, a league high of 43.5 attempts per game. I am not sure why that is. Maybe it’s a by-product of Nnamdi leaving and us having rookies in coverage. What do you guys think?
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
The Raiders have averaged 28.5 total blitzes — against the run and pass — per game the past two weeks after averaging 8.5 the first four weeks, according to STATS LLC. "We’re definitely more colorful now," CB Stanford Routt said. "We’re not as vanilla, we’re not as predictable as we’ve been in years past. That’s the main thing, try to confuse the quarterback." Raiders RapidReports
Go to Shutdown Corner for the whole article....damn interesting
as to how succesful we have been with the blitz. It also has some comical aspects in reference to Al calling the sideline and asking for a deep pass and the practice defensive side knowing exactly what the call was because of the phone.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Oct 21, 2011 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the Blitz has been Working
if we can start Tackling we should see a lot of improvement. The defense has to carry us this week because they are going to stack the box.

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