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Carson a no go + Seabass out = Trouble vs. KC?

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As has been reported here on SB Nation, Carson Palmer has gone from immediate starter to the possibility of starting the game standing on the sideline with a headset and a copy of the Raider playbook. Kyle Boller is now being reported as the believed starter and although he came in and made a couple plays in relief of Jason Campbell last week, he just doesn't strike fear into the opposition. For his career he's thrown more interceptions than touchdowns and can be fumble prone as well. If this is indeed the case, a horrible Chiefs secondary may be let off the hook this week at Oakland. Statistically the Chiefs are near the bottom in almost every possible category when it comes to pass defense but Boller behind center could encourage them to walk up into the box and throw numbers at the Raiders running game. After some bad early season losses, the Chiefs have actually thrown the ball very well after losing Jamaal Charles to injury. To make things worse, the Raiders are banged up. Richard Seymour is listed as questionable going into the game and although he'll probably get some work in this game, don't expect him to be in for as many snaps as he normally would. We're going to look at some of the match ups and discuss whether the Raiders will have their hands full against KC this week.

The secondary for the Raiders has been a soft spot for much of the season. After Stanford Routt, the corners have been getting torched. Chris Johnson hasn't been able to stay on the field and when he has been out there he's been less than stellar. The rookies at corner Van Dyke and Chekwa have looked like just that... rookies. Chekwa has actually made a few plays and for a 5th rounder he's shown some nice improvement since earlier in the season but he's had a hamstring issue and that has limited his action on the field. Van Dyke, the higher pick in the 3rd, has been absolutely horrible for much of the season. He must be incredible in practice because if gameday was the only thing the coaching staff was looking at, I wouldn't know why he keeps getting thrown in the fire. He gets beat often and his first instinct is just to reach out and grab his matchup. Big third downs are converted with yellow flags flying in the wind as time and time again DVD gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar. I wish someone would give Hue Jackson a DVD copy of DVD because it's brutal. I know the options are limited for the Raiders right now, but if you can't cover in today's NFL you'll be lucky to beat bad teams. Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch have been solid in the back and having a couple reliable safeties and a solid CB in Routt is the only reason the Raiders have been as good as they have. How different would we be feeling about the Raiders right now if Michael Huff doesn't get that pick in Houston? Giordono has made a few plays of his own, 3rd in overall tackles on the Raiders to go with a safety blitz that got him a sack and another play early in the season where he got an interception. It almost makes me wonder if Huff would be an improvement if moved to corner. The Raiders are actually dialing up more blitzes than they have in a decade and mixing in more zone behind it. Historically the Raiders were pretty predictable; straight bump and run man defense for 95% of the game where the opposing teams O-line always knew who to block and the offensive coordinator had a pretty good idea of what plays would be effective. The change has the Raiders mixing it up a little more and has caught teams by surpise. It probably has given KC a little more to think about and work on. The Chiefs have had two weeks to gameplan for the Raiders and their renewed emphasis on the passing game minus Charles has put up some big performances from Matt Cassel as of late. Dwayne Bowe is a big receiver on the outside and Dexter McCluster has gotten loose over the middle. Ask Larry Fitzgerald if he misses former teammate and now KC wideout Steve Breaston and you won't even finish the question before Larry starts nodding his head up and down. Leonard Pope at tight end isn't a huge threat but does a good job in the running game and will sneak out and catch a few balls on 3rd down. The Chiefs have gone to more of a spread philosophy and will try to widen out the Raiders and find matchups in space that they want to take advantage of. This area in the game is a major concern. The Raiders have to be able to consistently apply pressure to Cassel or it's going to be a long day for the secondary. Seymour's ability to line up and attack is huge. Matt Shaughnessey is out so expect to see a healthy dose of Lamar Houston and Jarvis Moss coming off the ends. Trevor Scott will get some action as well as some Desmond Bryant when he's not lined up at tackle. Henderson gets alot of work in the middle, especially on early downs, and Tommy Kelly has been a rock for the Silver and Black all season. Of course with more blitzes, Wimberly gets more of a chance to do what he does best and that is get after the quarterback. All in all, it's a mixed bag. Raiders Defensive Coordinator Chuck Bresnahan will need to be agressive and creative so that Cassel and company don't start picking the youngsters apart on the outside. The lack of a huge threat at tight end and running backs out of the backfield should allow Huff, Branch, and Giordono to roll coverage away from Routt and towards the other side, hiding some weaknesses for the Raiders on the outside.

The running game for the Chiefs has taken a backseat to the wide open passing game of late so I like the Silver and Black's matchups on running downs. Aaron Curry has stepped right in and another week of practice should help him. Even if Seymour is limited somewhat this week, Kelly, Henderson, and Bryant have all been solid in stretches this season and should continue to do so against a depleted Chiefs backfield. Let's face it Rolando McClain is much better when he can just focus on plugging holes and stopping the run. The less he has to cover these hybrid tight ends and fleet footed backs in space the better so this week may finally allow him to do what made him a a first round pick out of Alabama, coming up and putting a hat on the ball.

RUN DMC - When the Raiders have the ball they will continue to lean on a power running attack however that is the strength of Kansas City's defense. They run a 3-4 scheme and Tyson Jackson, Kelly Gregg, and Glenn Dorsey are not necesarily burners but they do throw their weight around and can be a solid front against the ground attack. Derrick Johnson is still a very solid guy at RILB and they'll routinely have 7 in the box against the Raiders, even sliding a safety up to the line on early downs to get that extra hat around the ball up front. This will be a solid test for the O-line and McFadden to continue to show why they are one of the most respected running games in the NFL. Youngsters Veldheer and Wiznewski have been a solid tandem on the left side for much of the season however some of that continuity was lost when Satele went down at center and the nephew of the Wiz had to take over snapping responsibilities. Vets Carlisle and Barnes have done a good job on the right and I am very impressed with Kevin Boss' blocking abilities at TE. Boss has prevented defenses from setting the edge often in his time in Silver and Black and those key blocks have helped spring DMC to the outside. McFadden is a powerful guy and does a nice job between the tackles, but when Boss and company help spring him to the outside it's lights out for opposing defenses. Expect KC to stay wide with their 3-4 and force as much as possible back in to Kelly Gregg in the middle and two solid tacklers at middle linebacker led by Johnson. The Chiefs are hoping to slow down Run DMC and force Boller into 3rd and long. Whether or not the Raiders are effective on early downs will in large part dictate the final outcome of this game because if the Chiefs don't know if it's run or pass they arguably have the worst secondary in the NFL. If it's 3rd and long and they can zone up and let the Raiders catch it for short yardage and then just come up and tackle, that could be a formula for getting off the field.

Boller or Palmer has been the question across the nation all week but regardless of who Hue runs out there to start the game, the Raiders should look to keep the Chiefs off-balance mixing in short completions, power runs, and deep throws on the outside. Whichever guy is behind center this week will have a somewhat limited playbook to work with for very different reasons. For Boller, asking him to consistently hit the 25 yard crossing routes, post plays and streak routes is a recipe for disaster. I just do not have the faith that anything more than a scaled back version of the offense will create more big plays than bad ones with Boller back there. He is mobile and is an experienced guy compared to alot of 2nd stringers but his track record suggests that if you ask him to do too much than he's going to make completions to the other team. With Palmer, he just hasn't had the time to feel comfortable with all the ins and outs of the offense (pun intended). There are going to be some basic routes that he's comfortable with such as slants and play action with one key read to make. If the offense is in big part the running game, mixed in with a couple easier routes and the occassional bomb than that might make the most sense. Ok, KC puts 8 guys in the box and you don't know which 7 are going to blitz, does Palmer know a couple audibles that he can check to? Is he going to be able to communicate in a way that the line will respond to, for adjusting pass protection? Is he going to be able to give hand signals to his backs and receivers to get to the route that will take advantage of the look the defense is showing? In 2 minute offense, many of the same questions exist. There is no doubt in my mind that I feel more comfortable with Palmer back there but does Palmer himself feel more comfortable back there? We know the KC secondary is suspect but are the Raiders in a position, 5 days after Carson's acquisition, to go after it? Are the Chiefs going to pin their ears back and send the house to stop McFadden? It makes sense they will. A dangerous running game combined with a quarterback that will be getting his first start this season for the Raiders tells me that KC sells out and attacks the line, especially if it's Boller. He may not know all the plays but Palmer has a reputation that will keep the other teams defensive coordinator from gambling too much.

Special teams is often forgotten by the casual fan and media alike but it is at least one third of the game. Janikowski is on the questionable list and the Raiders had 3 kickers in practice on Friday trying to address that issue should Seabass not be able to go. He's been dealing with a hammy issue and will be a gameday decision. Not only does the guy make the Raiders feel like they're in the scoring zone everytime they cross midfield, he also routinely kicks the ball through the end zone on kickoffs. Fortunately the Raiders still have the best punter in game and Jacoby Ford has been a regular on top 10 plays on sportscenter and with league recognition for special teamer of the week. A change at kicker will probably change the game quite a bit though. Instead of needing to get to the 45, the Raiders, without Seabass, probably need to get closer to the 25. That's 20 yards difference no matter how you cut it thats one fifth of the field. The Chiefs should be looking for Special Teams Coordinator John Fassel to pull a rabbit out of his hat again on Sunday. A little trickeration brings a smile to my face and the Raiders have had their fair share this season. No doubt about it, a big part of the reason the Raiders are 4-2 is Fassel and the special teams unit for the Raiders, Janikowski has been terrific and his gametime decision will impact the game.

There are quite a few question marks going into this game but I haven't discussed the true X-factor until now. Raider Nation is a buzz, and the Black Hole will be rocking as the Raiders have sold out once again. The anticipation is due to a much improved team over recent seasons and in the trade deadline acquisition of Palmer to go with a game changer at running back. In what could of been looked at by many as an easy game may be anything but. The Silver and Black fan base will help the newbies that may not of gotten as much time until now to settle down and be productive. I expect with that inspired 12th man that the Raiders will make enough plays on both sides of the ball and on special teams to come away with the win. Gameday decisions at several positions could swing the game in one direction or another. The Raiders are going to need every ounce of energy from the crowd to get ahead and take the pressure off a new starter at quarterback. Thank you for reading this installment of GMtalk. We'll see you on Sunday Raider Nation.  

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Great breakdown, GMt. It's very possible this game's a trap. As you said, KC's had a couple weeks to prep whereas

the Raiders have been on an emotional roller-coaster since 10/8. I see us actually behind at half-time … possible tied … and adjustments made, i.e. Boller gets the hook and Carson Palmer makes his debut. Hue will have scripted a couple dozen plays that Palmer has memorized and after that he’s on his own playing sandlot with a couple of receivers spread and 2-TE sets for extra protection. There will also be, fortunately, another receiver on the field … the one in Carson’s helmet with Hue’s reassuring voice on the transmitting end.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 1:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Great point

In the heat of the moment, Hue and Carson have that history and that makes a huge difference. I hope we get a chance to him out there on Sunday. Like you said, a couple dozen plays, max protect so you don’t have to audible except to maybe a running play, and let him start getting some reps. 30th ranked pass defense? Perfect time to start learning the offense and getting timing with your receivers. I’d throw away a couple timeouts each half if he’s not comfortable with something.

Chris Terrell

by GMtalk on Oct 22, 2011 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

one point of contention to an otherwise very good writeup ...

the Chiefs don’t have what you termed a “horrible secondary” … as long as Flowers and Carr are back there and healthy, it’s better than average

that said, the SS position is a weak spot with McGraw … he’s game savvy and VERY intelligent and more than ready to make some big hits (even had an INT this year) but he’s a bit long in the tooth

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take a look at the stats

The Chiefs are 26th or worse in every statistical category in pass defense, including 30th in yard allowed. I don’t how you get more horrible than that @ upamtn

Chris Terrell

by GMtalk on Oct 22, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh, skewed from the first two atrocities vs Bills and Lions (and yes, we were worse than horrible, esp offensively)

just can’t see the Raiders racking up a ton of yards thru the air this week … DMC burning us for 150 and 2 TDs? oh yeah, I can imagine that … but not an all-out aerial assult, even if Palmer starts I just can’t see it

I can see Raiders winning a close one … though I love your last option on the poll (Vegas, Baby!)

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Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Queefers beat teams with a combined record of 1-10...BUT...

when we face division rivals, shit happens.
We need to man up and play hard, as if its the end of the season if we lose. No relenting now…we started it and we’re riding.

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Oct 22, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

if hue just come out and says its boller, this game is NOT selling out.

and random leaks that he IS starting all week, up until friday afternoon? nice.

by pac4eva5 on Oct 22, 2011 1:33 AM PDT reply actions  

You seem surprised. Hue is, after all, silver-tongued andl fully capable of working the business end as well as coaching

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol I hear you bro. He may come in for a few reps. But with pretty much everyone in media watching him and waiting to scrutinize every little detail I think Hue might wait till the Donkeys game. I already heard some douche on espn talking about “possible concerns about Palmer’s arm” (paraphrasing) for the reason we’re waiting.
But I am damn excited to watch him play and see what a difference he can make for us.

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Oct 22, 2011 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I am over the original shock of the price and are just amped to see him out there in that Raider number 3!

There is always some douche on ESPN talking shit about the Raiders although I have to say I have been very encouraged by what Dilfer and Jaworski who are two of the most respected QB mediots around have had to say about C3TD.

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 3:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tradition

Yeah Oz, I want to see him fling the ball around like the number 3’s of old like Daryle Lamonica and Jeff George…

by Mallard Davis on Oct 22, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is still lot to be seen on Palmer

but i have been very impressed with what I have seen of him and he seems to have that look in his eye that he means business.

Seems like the time away has re-lit that fire and I am much more confident of what Palmer can bring than i was when i first found out about the trade.

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am starting to believe he can live up to the #3

but as I said a lot remains to be seen

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff George

The Raiders definitely have the WRs to go deep.

I was being tongue in cheek about Jeff George. He could fling it, but he was not very effective.

At the end of the Jeff George era my buddy was three feet from Al Davis and one of his “aids” at the Oakland Airport. He overheard Al tell the aid he wanted the Jeff George stuff removed for the display case by the time he got back. It was.

by Mallard Davis on Oct 22, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha I was going to make comment on the Jeff George thing

LMAO, apparently Jeff still wants to make a comeback!

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 2:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, he OFFERED to suit up for the Colts after Manning went down

unreal

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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you really think Hue cares what the media thinks????
ESPN is overrated and to be honest non news worthy. They can’t even get the top highlights
from games right. I’m with you on the espn douche though lol!!!!!

by bskilla on Oct 22, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

He may act like he doesn't care, but Hue care a lot. He often reveals his accute awareness of what the press

(including the Raider Blogs) are focusing on and what their weekly themes are, e.g. before we acquired Curry he was sensitive, if not annoyed, by questions about the LB play and general poor tackling.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

QB Situation

Is still in question, no one knows who’s going to start, but i think TP is going to surprise everyone on the first play. I’m thinking TP goes in on the first play then CP comes in after. Hue has tricks up his sleeve, im sure KC would be tripping if they seen TP come out on the first play. Other then that if someone has to start, im leaning more to CP starting. Boller can just help him with the playbook on the way.

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by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 22, 2011 2:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I love how Hue is keeping us all guessing. It’ll be a pretty entertaining win if Hue does throw some tricks in there.

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Oct 22, 2011 3:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right Now

Were all clueless lol.

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by AlwaysWinBaby on Oct 22, 2011 3:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

TP on the first play would be some crazy trickery…run a lil’ wildcat with DMC and TP, they won’t know what him them!

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

HUE

His final lessons were from the Sith master, he is well versed in the use of dark side jedi mind tricks. Hue has definitely taken what Mr Davis taught him to heart. To his credit Mr Davis knew exactly what he was getting when he hired Hue. This has the meadiots guessing and wondering WTF …lol As for the price well if Palmer works out that is just typical Raider reclamation and one of the biggest critics I have heard thus far(Mr Gannon) should know better having spent most of his career languishing in mediocrity till he donned the S&B

by Canadian Raider on Oct 23, 2011 4:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alright, the Chiefs had a bye and are rolling a two game winning streak...

…but let’s face it: We’re on the same streak, while having beaten the Texans and the Browns. The Chiefs put up Ws against two basically QB-less teams in Indy and the Vikes. The Browns were ours for the taking, but the fact that we’ve shown the ability of beating playoff teams in Houton and NY, should clearly show the edge we’ve got vs. KC.
IF Janikowski and Seymour are healthy and McFadden and the Oline play up to their potential, it’ll be somewhat like KC 21 – 34 OAK.

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by trentemoeller on Oct 22, 2011 3:30 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

"GM-Talk"...Nice Job Bro...Just A Few Points Here From My Perspective:
  1. if you go back and look at that Tuck Game it was Woodson along with a “LB” who were on the blitz in that play…Bresnahan has been that type of “DC” in the past and Woodson alluded to that as well saying they did allot of different things when he was playing here…

#2…We now have a new body at “S” and it’s likely Huff will get more time at “CB” or the Nickle…Thus we won’t have to rely upon a rookie “DVD” as much…

#3…We may again dial up the “52” and let our 5-Man Front crush their pocket…They will be force to max protect and that takes players out of their “O”…Ro n Curry as our "LB"s should work very well in this…Curry has now had a full week’s practice and will be doing even more than last week…

#4…They will try to stop our run but they will fail as everyone has…Only when we don’t use it has it been stopped…But that was "JC"s strength…He could fool everyone with his Play Action and we have now lost that element of our game…

I fully expect to see Pryor in this one and possibly in the “WildCat” which will prolley give “KC” absolute fits….With that speed at “QB” and his ability to make something out of noting this could totally dismantle their “D”…It’s the perfect situation with “D-Mac” n Pryor to be in and the “D” has to detect who has the ball before they bring the heat so it slows everything down…That’s the element of the Panthers that’s disrupting every “DC” they face now and "TP"’s speed is tremendously faster than Cam’s…We can also throw multiple "WR"s at them in a “WildCat” version of the “Spread” and attack their weak ass "DB"s to death!!!…So I hope!!!…Please please Action Jack!!!

#5…Special Teams…Last week Jano quit hitting the end zone on his kicks…We had good coverage on the kicks anyway so it didn’t hurt us…I’m not really worried about that…How’s "KC"s return game?…Do they have a game breaker back there?

“KC” is ranked at #20 and ave 23yds w a longest of 35yds…I don’t see much here to fear…They do better on Punt Returns…

It only hurts us at scoring "FG"s and that dreaded missed extra point so maybe we be forced to go for 2…

by PantyRaider on Oct 22, 2011 4:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm with u

Can you imagine Pryor in the wildcat with McFadden where they run a little option and DMC has the option to throw? Wow, you know he played quarterback in high school. They just read if the safeties come up or not and pryor can always keep it or pitch it.

Chris Terrell

by GMtalk on Oct 22, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another reason why I think Carson will start
• After two days of practice, Palmer is looking good, and gaining knowledge of his receivers, according to Jackson. "I see the same guy I saw in Cincinnati [in 2004-06, when he was receivers coach],‘’ Jackson said. "He’s got a very strong arm. He hasn’t fumbled a snap. He’s been laughing and talking with his receivers, all his new teammates. Here’s what I noticed: He’s been here 16 hours, and [in Wednesday’s practice], I give him a play, he calls it, he executes it flawlessly.’’

From Peter Kings article on the trade: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/10/21/week-7/index.html#ixzz1bW30Xe26

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 6:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Add to that, the fact Hue hasn't talked about Boller as one might expect him to do about the obvious choice to start.

On the other hand, Hue may have confidence in Boller and is playing with the uncertainty for any number of reasons, e.g. selling more tickets, keeping the Raiders in media focus, diffusing K.C.’s game planning time and energy, enjoying the attention, creating tension and focus for all three QBs, … Im sure others can add more reasons.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

I love the way hue is playing the media and the cheifs, I saw an interview with Todd Haley and he was saying how they have to prepare for both QB’s – perfect!

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 2:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hue should do this every week

Even when we get to the playoffs this year, he’ll keep everyone guessing about whether or not TP will get the start. Keep the opposing coaches guessing as much as players…I like it

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind seeing Huff at corner. I’ve been thinking about that lately, good call GM.
Hopefully with the addition of Ndukwe(in good health) contributing right away will give us that flexability.

by bskilla on Oct 22, 2011 7:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Hue plugs leaks and Nnamdi's vacacy has become a weakness. With the addition of S The DukeWay and S Giordano's play

I’m prepared to see Huff taking DvD off the field at some point (if Branch doesn’t frag him first).

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeeesss this will upgrade the secondary.

by bskilla on Oct 22, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hello Raider nation

Giants fan here, just trying to feel the pulse of what you guys are thinking now that ya got Carson.

Personally I think ya may have overpaid for him, but that’s what they said when we got Eli, and that turned out alright.

Discounting this week, how do you guys feel about this dude? Can he still sling it? Which receivers will this benefit? Will this change the way your team is run, or do you stick to a steady diet of DMC?

Again just checkin in, and how ya enjoying Kevin “trick play” Boss?

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 22, 2011 8:05 AM PDT reply actions  

There are no less than 5 blogs with hundreds of comments responding to your question. Enjoy.

The theme here is the game with KC tomorrow.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh

so sorry to intrude.

But thanks for the hospitality.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Oct 22, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too soon to say anything about Palmer, he just arrived, but is looking promising in practice.

People are getting over the shock of the cost and are thinking more about how productive he will be as a qb, which is very exciting. In terms of receivers, we believe we now have a qb who can match the speed and depth of all of our receivers and is expected to be more accurate in the deep pass. As regards Boss, he immediately took away the impact of losing Zach Miller (Zach who?). He has done great blocking and has made several very important and clutch catches, such as the TD against the Browns thrown by Lechler. Regarding DMC, we have actually had a decent passing game and our strategy will be based on who we play, but yes, with a rb like DMC, we expect to keep utilizing him, particularly because he is the No.1 rb in the league but is also a receiver threat too.

by RaiderPsycho on Oct 22, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect timing, RaiderPsycho. I just started typing a lengthy response and saw your post pop up. Phew! lol

Flynner, you can find a detailed discussion on Palmer in this thread if you want to know more.

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Oct 22, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 2:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This game worries me

There has been so much emotion and commotion over the last few weeks. The media has been everywhere I just hope they come out focused.

Haven’t seen a I’m watching film this week on twitter just going out to dinner with former teammates S’Moores Thomas Howard.

it will be interesting to see how the defense responds this week.

Maybe we get 3 qb’s with packages for each… lol I still expect it to be Boller but I would not be shocked to see C-Palm.

Division opponent it’s a must win.

Just Win Baby

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 22, 2011 8:50 AM PDT reply actions  

raiders should start boller

carson palmer is no jesus. no miracles. i am a bengal fan who was watching last year. he can hit a nice bomb still…BUT he was very fond of the punch myself in the face pick six last year. and he was also fond of the strangely high mid range throw going back to the end of 2009 year. he was way more mistake prone than rookie andy dalton has been so far.
        give him time to acclimate.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 22, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Hey Andy.

Where in Bklyn? I live in Clinton Hill.

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seabass Huge deal.

Seabass has had such a huge impact for us, I think some of us take him for granted. Don’t have time to do the analysis/research but it seems to me like he has been the game changer for us in many of our games this season. Him possibly being out worries more than the QB situation. And Seymour hurt too, Wow. Makes me nervous and to make matters worse I’m gonna miss most of the game.

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting what you say about taking for granted.

I’d taken Jason for granted, never expected him to go down like this.

by Spirals galore on Oct 22, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

we all did....

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 22, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

next man up!

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

you would think with such a golden leg, Lechler could sub in for Jano if need be. I know it’s not the same motion, but with a leg like Shane’s, I have a hard time believing he couldn’t nail a 40-50 yarder.

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was thinking the same thing.

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It works in madden XD

Speaking of Madden anyone else notice C3TD got hosed on his ratings? What a rip!

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 2:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who is that?

Clippers own staples center!!!

by ClipperBEAST on Oct 22, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carson Palmer

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RIP Mr Davis 1929 - 2011

by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 8:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

seriously

Jason Campbell has a high deep ball accuracy rating than Palmer…’nuff said.

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

*higher

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

This could be a truly crazy game

People who are able, may well want to record this one.

by rightnasty on Oct 22, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Good luck this week

It doesn’t matter who’s out for you guys and doesn’t matter whos out for us. These games are always crazy and anything/everything can and usually does happen. Im obviously biast so I wont come on here and predict scores, but it’s gonna be a good one. Get cha popcorn ready! Go Chiefs!(had to throw somethin in there, I mean, come on, it’s Raiders-Chiefs baby!)

by KCinIL on Oct 22, 2011 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Lets not forget that Pryor may see his first game tomorrow.

In some “special packages” as Hue described it. Or maybe not, but its not out of question.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 22, 2011 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Wild Cat

How about Wildcat with Run DMC?

Did we ever decide what to call the Raiders Wildcat formation?

by Mallard Davis on Oct 22, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

nope not yet.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 22, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I propose the 'Pirate' formation.

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it

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RIP Mr Davis 1929 - 2011

by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 2:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

same here

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 22, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good 1 dram5780!

"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Coach Hue Jackson

Raider Nation, all hand's on deck or get the hell off the ship! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If a 7th & 5th round pick gets you Aaron Curry (a former 4th overall 1st rd. pick) instead of a couple of crap-shoots a year later, then fine and if dealing away a couple of first rounder's gets you a proven franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer and a legitimate shot at the playoffs, then great, you know why? Because your team is standing behind it's motto & legacy, "Just Win Baby!" and "Commitment to Excellence" instead of "Suck for Luck" and "Give Up". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that!?!

Cheers,

- Saint

by The MoonMan 804 on Oct 22, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank Guys!

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Bully formation, I believe

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack, I thought of that earlier in the week

and while the idea of Pryor at any QB position doesn’t strike fear into the hearts of many Chiefs fans, the idea of him running around with or without the ball DOES cause concern, just from the standpoint of the guy being a good athlete

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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its not that I want him to play QB now

Hue said he has “special packages” for him, and I am eager to see what he is talking about. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 22, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

more than understandable

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Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think tomorrows play calling

is gonna be a real show. I bet the first few plays will be the usual things we have been seeing but later on I expect to see some intresting things. The Chefs suck against the run and are going to be zeroing in on McFadden. I expect to see the wildcat used quite a bit tomorrow with Pryor. You could use a crazy rotation of guys back there running. Pryor, McFadden, Bush. McFadden, T.Jones, Bush. Pryor, McFadden, Ford. Pryor, McFadden, T.Jones. On and on….you could even run Moore and DHB from the Wildcat. I also expect to see some fake RB screens with the pass to the FB this week, just the reason why we miss Reece. Its a great play with this type of team, we cant abandon it just Because Reece is out. My prediction…Chefs 17…..Raiders 28.

by LaRaider on Oct 22, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

First off Hue jackson never said Palmer is not starting. 2nd is no one said that seabass was not gonna play. Get your story straight before you write this bs. ur an idiot!

by Cameron Hesterman on Oct 22, 2011 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Boller starting: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82356866/article/raiders-opt-for-familiar-boller-over-newly-acquired-palmer?module=HP11_headline_stack Just saying it is likely going to be Boller, and not Palmer starting. Hue’s presser before we got Palmer also has Hue quoted saying that Boller will start against the Chiefs.

From Raider’s facebook page:

Raiders sign kicker Dave Rayner. Raiders hoping seabass is healthy for the broncos after the bye week. Let’s just hope game doesn’t come down to game winning field goal and we need to trot Dave Rayner out there lol

Seabass won’t play.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 22, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Adam Schector reporting Raiders will sign Dave Reynor

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 22, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder who we're going to cut

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Oct 22, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe Cameron Hesterman?

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Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO

“maybe Cameron Hesterman?” CLASSIC

Chris Terrell

by GMtalk on Oct 22, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s with the hate, man? You can tell that GMtalk took the time and put some thought into that post. If you can’t appreciate it atleast don’t disrespect.

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Oct 22, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no shit ...

Fact is, GM’s reportage was 100% accurate with what was know at the time. He clearly spoke in ‘possibilities’ both about CP and Seabass.

Show some respect for someone’s hard work, idiot.

by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 22, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude chill out.

Great post!

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

You joined today and this is your first comment ... how promising

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Resident Troll in disguise?

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must admit, this all worries me.

Not having the top kicker in football vs a team we often take to the wire is a HUGE blow. Especially with Boller probably starting. Our defense is going to have to play out of their minds and DMac and Bush need to take one to the house early. A special teams TD wouldn’t hurt either.

by Chris2814 on Oct 22, 2011 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Me too ... with Boller, and no Seabass ...

And with all the hoopla and emotion and distractions (esp. for Hue) during the past week … and the Chiefs feeling like this game is absolute must-win to salvage their season … and Cassel coming in with a 100+ QB rating over the past 3 games …

I have to say, I will be unsurprised if the Chefs come in and find a way to pull out a W under these particular circumstances.

But even if they do, it ain’t the end of the world for us, not at all. We’re still in better shape than last year at this time.

If we lose though … we’re all gonna be going nuts though having to sit and wait 2 weeks to get a chance to get back in the W column, waiting to see what CP can do … Dunno about you but if we piss this one away, the two weeks of waiting is going to drive me batshit crazy … esp. if we get our asses beat cause Boller chokes it away repeatedly.

by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 22, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s really crazy how over the course of a week this game went from a slam dunk in my mind to a big question mark. It’s turned into kind of the perfect storm of everything that can go wrong. I hope we can pull out the win, but I’m preparing myself for the worst case scenario.

Plus side, if we do win with all this adversity it’ll really show just how much the team has changed from the previous 8 years.

by Chris2814 on Oct 22, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah man, everyone is predicting a blowout

But I’m worried about how we’re going to put points on the board. Like Boller said in an interview yesterday, “it’s gonna come down to execution”. I’m sure our coaches will game plan to our strengths. But the big question mark is will Boller and our offense be able to execute it?
Now on top of that our top scorer, Janikowski is not playing. I feel you on the having to sit through 2 weeks after a loss. I’m not comfortable with our situation at all. Hopefully we can get the W tomorrow. Then we’ll have pleasant 2 weeks having to look forward to Palmer’s first start against the Donkeys.

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Oct 22, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I definitely think the game will be a lot tougher than many think

The Cheifs started out pretty bad but have started to come along the last few weeks, if they beat us and the Chargers lose they are right back in the division.

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by Ozraider on Oct 22, 2011 2:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who is "everyone"? Most people I'm talking with think it's another close one

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 22, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boller

Two things worry me about Boller, strip sacks and more INTs than TDs in his career. I think Hue will get the ball in the hands of the Raiders play makers tomorrow and minimize Boller making mistakes. Like the swing pass to the WR last week.

by Mallard Davis on Oct 22, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

TP and Taiwan will be at the Raider Image today from Noon-2PM

It is the one in Oakland off of Hegenberger by the Wing Stop.

Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 22, 2011 10:23 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

What could be a dynamic duo of the future!

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 22, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah!

Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.

by dram5780 on Oct 22, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

AL

Anybody else thinking of visiting Al at Chapel of the Chimes after the game?

by Mallard Davis on Oct 22, 2011 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

My grandma is buried there as well ...

I would go, but I’m in Arizona. Pay respects on my behalf to Al, if you would.

by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 22, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, so's my Uncle ... now that I think about it ...

That’s where my dad will go as well, I’d imagine …

My dad’s side is a true Oakland family :)

by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 22, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL didn’t expect to see a Colts fan here. You need him as a backup don’t you?

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Oct 22, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Been there done that he's all yours!

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 22, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff George

I hear Jeff George was primed and ready for a Raiders come back…

by Mallard Davis on Oct 22, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness,

Jeff George lives in Indy and swears he is in shape and could still help a team. Was interested when the Colts were looking for a veteran to replace Manning.

"Screw the NBA, where is my red, white and blue basketball"

by PV Mike on Oct 22, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

43 and probably still sporting a mullet

"Screw the NBA, where is my red, white and blue basketball"

by PV Mike on Oct 22, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know he can still wing it!

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 22, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Think That Would Be A Great Comeback Story...

Than everyone would beat themselves for not having him on the roster all along…He played very well for us until the feud that was Gruden!!!….That guy get’s it in for someone and runs them off like he did to Nap trying to make a 5’9" 180# speed rusher into a between the tackles runner….Just pure dumb!!!

by PantyRaider on Oct 22, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff George played very well for us?

That ain’t how I remember things going down … I remember a whole lot of losing when JG was the QB.

by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 23, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW: It is Hue's BIrthday today:

I’d write a post about it, but only have I Phone access!?!

Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 22, 2011 11:30 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Hue

Gets to stress out for his birthday. Still come Sunday night, I imagine it’s gonna be time to get snockered.

by rightnasty on Oct 22, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

be pretty sweet if we could convince the O to sing Hue happy birthday tomorrow.

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kool...Mine Was Friday...We Should Celibrate Together!!!...

My happy birthday wish: Scrap Boller and run that “Wild Pirate” formation to open this game…2nd half bring in Carson just when they think they have made their adjustment…

Please Please Action Jack!!!….

by PantyRaider on Oct 22, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine was Wednesday ...

Libra’s are a patient sort … we can wait ’til Palmers ready, right?

by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 23, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorta...But I Be Waiting Too Long For My Boy Pryor.. And I Be The Iron Tiger!!!

1950 was the year of the metal tiger…It’s really fun to be around fellow tigers because we have so much in common…

Al Davis by the way was the same as my father…The Earth Snake…And those qualities fit him so well…

Snake

by PantyRaider on Oct 23, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again

Expect a lot of trick plays and craziness. Somebody record this game.

by rightnasty on Oct 22, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Haha that would make me smile

by KOwens06 on Oct 22, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am going to be "sufficently" snockered....

so that I won’t even know if I missed it!!!!GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!

Look at you: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater. I'm tellin' ya, Rat, if this girl can't smell your qualifications, then who needs her, right? Mike Damone (Fast Times at Ridgemont High)

by Gazoo on Oct 22, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

@GMtalk

I told you it was only a matter of time before your work got put on the front page. Congrats on another great article!

If boller looks shaky Hue will not hesitate to put TP or CP3 in the game, so i’m not really worried at all if boller starts. He at least deserves to start this game, now finishing it is the question of the day. This is a must win game.

"Just Win Baby..." - Coach Al Davis

1929 - FOREVER

by Al Davis *Commitment to Excellence* on Oct 22, 2011 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Coach Hue Jackson

Raider Nation, all hand's on deck or get the hell off the ship! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If a 7th & 5th round pick gets you Aaron Curry (a former 4th overall 1st rd. pick) instead of a couple of crap-shoots a year later, then fine and if dealing away a couple of first rounder's gets you a proven franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer and a legitimate shot at the playoffs, then great, you know why? Because your team is standing behind it's motto & legacy, "Just Win Baby!" and "Commitment to Excellence" instead of "Suck for Luck" and "Give Up". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that!?!

Cheers,

- Saint

by The MoonMan 804 on Oct 22, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

IS THIS THE LONGEST DAY EVER ON RECORD????????

LOL sorry but I cannot focus on anything else I am a wreck I need this game on!!!!!!!!

Look at you: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater. I'm tellin' ya, Rat, if this girl can't smell your qualifications, then who needs her, right? Mike Damone (Fast Times at Ridgemont High)

by Gazoo on Oct 22, 2011 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

This has been a very well documented week:

Thus…Time slows down…Thus…Anxiety…

Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 22, 2011 12:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh so it is the "LONGEST DAY"

I should be fine then now that it has been confirmed…..I am going to go and medicate myself with LSU against Auburn

Look at you: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater. I'm tellin' ya, Rat, if this girl can't smell your qualifications, then who needs her, right? Mike Damone (Fast Times at Ridgemont High)

by Gazoo on Oct 22, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

worse for Chiefs fans, we've been w/o football for almost 2 whole weeks

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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about

I’ve watched the games – there hasn’t been pro football in KC all season.

Al Davis 1929-2011 Just rest in peace, baby

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by darooster on Oct 22, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And

penalties galore. Seems all to familiar.

by rightnasty on Oct 22, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Blow out would be nice, Raiders wise

The Raiders did have a far better team with JC and Sebass. A healthy group and this game would not be close. Alas, Sebass gets hurt which takes away 20 yards where we can get a manageable FG. JC went down and he knew the playbook and had chemistry with the WR’s. We got Boller who is just getting his reps in with the 1st team and add in the fact that he is Kyle Boller. We got big arm Palmer who has had only a few days of practice, doesn’t know the playbook, has no chemistry with the WR’s and hasn’t played football in months. CJ and Checkwa are not back yet and DVD is getting beat pretty bad sometimes. Ughhh, this game is going to be close. Best hope, Boller doesn’t make HUGE mistakes, DMC gets outside and runs like the dickens, Bush wears down the D Line in the middle, we pressure Cassell hard, and we stop their run game. IF all that goes to plan, we shall win yet another close game. Very nervous about the Chiefs, and I really, REALLY should not be! Damn injuries.

by lakers007raiders on Oct 22, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

anyone with the Lakers and the Raiders in their nic is allright by me...

Look at you: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater. I'm tellin' ya, Rat, if this girl can't smell your qualifications, then who needs her, right? Mike Damone (Fast Times at Ridgemont High)

by Gazoo on Oct 22, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

as a Warriors fan, I resent that

But also, as a Warriors fan, I don’t really care much about basketball anyway

"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin

"I'll do anything to score a touchdown. And I'm not afraid like some people, their afraid to call those plays. I'm not. That's the way I like to live my life, I like to live on the edge. And that's the way it is, and that's the way it's gon' be."
-Hue Jackson

by AlDavis4Prez on Oct 22, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES @ Raiders/Lakers

“as a Warriors fan, I resent that… But also, as a Warriors fan, I don’t really care much about basketball anyway” LOL w/ AlDavis4Prez :)

Chris Terrell

by GMtalk on Oct 22, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sac Town Pride

The Kings are on a rise.

"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches

by AkaP on Oct 22, 2011 11:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

All I know is that I'm absolutely terrified of this game

It’s making my stomach churn. I’m taking my girlfriend to the Bridge School benefit concert in Mountain View tomorrow at 2, so I’ll be missing the game. Part of me is so bummed out, but part of me is a little relieved. Ugh, we need this win.

by Kyle_B on Oct 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Kyle Boller and no CBass

Oh no, Things are looking down; damn good thing KC is horrible.

by 702Raider on Oct 22, 2011 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey

Still stressing, hand wringing, muttering about tomorrow’s game?Need to get your mind off of it? The Sharks are up 2-0 vs. Boston in a fairly epic clash worthy of a Stanley Cup playoff game.

by rightnasty on Oct 22, 2011 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you watch the games? The Raiders ran the ball well up the middle for the first time all season when Wisniewski went to center for the injured Satele. Other than that, McFadden has done most of his damage outside. Cleveland was 5-12 throwing at Van Dyke but you say nothing about how much he has improved as if he’s still getting picked on. What are you watching?

by Carl Cockerham on Oct 22, 2011 5:37 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I have a feeling

that we’ll win another ugly game.

Nintendo, Yoshi, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fan.

by yoshifan on Oct 22, 2011 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

that tonights going to be a good night?

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Oct 22, 2011 10:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

woohoo!

Tonight’s going to be a good good night!

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Oct 22, 2011 10:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm Feeling Rather Good About This one...If Close Only In The 1st Quarter!!!

They SUCK!!!…And they haven’t played anyone!!!….The best thing they can say is they played “SD” tough but who the hell hasn’t this season???…Even Miami was giving them trouble till the end….Todd Hailey is in his “MeltDown” phase again and their season is already over…They will tank!!!

Before we take the field Sunday the great Tebow will have been trolled as “SharkBait” and the power failure in NY will have robbed the “Jolts” of any hope!!!

Than we will desecrate the visiting inhabitants of “Squaw Valley” sending them home RAPED!!!

by PantyRaider on Oct 22, 2011 9:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Boller Posted A 79.5 Rate Last Week...That's His High!!!...He's A 70.4 Overall...Yikes!!!

And someone wants this turd to start???…Damn!!…I would go with the rookie 1st…

“06” was the only time he posted a high rate…104…He played only 5 games!!

33/55 60.0% 485yds 5 "TD"s 2 "Int"s 3 Fumbles!!!…That’s his best EVER!!!

Last season he posted his worst…30.2 in relief…Good Grief!!!

by PantyRaider on Oct 22, 2011 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

This week will be another test for Hue

Last week Hue was able to focus a Raiders team that was riding high on recent success. Typically, we would lose after winning a huge game like Houston. Now Hue has to focus this team through the Carson Palmer distraction. If the Raiders win, I can say with 110% certainty Hue Jackson is a top 8 NFL coach. believe it!

by MikeKucharik on Oct 22, 2011 10:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

This will be a Raider win.

Trust me, every time us fans start getting confident they go n fuck everything up. 5-2. Book it.

2012 is looking Awesome!

by Kblomfiee on Oct 22, 2011 11:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the defense is going to go off on the Chiefs offense

Pressure will be coming for all over the place and Cassel will be running around mad all day.

The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.

by duballers23 on Oct 23, 2011 12:00 AM PDT reply actions  

*from

The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.

by duballers23 on Oct 23, 2011 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let us hope ...

Defense is gonna have to step it up big this week, because I’ve a feeling the O is going to struggle against the KC D w/Boller in there, and no Seabass means we need a lot more yards per drive in order to put up points.

I know, I’m just stating the obvious, but … I do think our D is up to the task.

by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 23, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, no Seabass is gonna suck. I’m sure there will be a couple times when they’d normally just tee it up and let Janikowski rip it. Now the pressure’s on the offense to pick up that 1st down, from the KC 35-40. I’m afraid Boller may try to force one, or two. XD

"Well, when you're playing good football, it's good football and if you don't have good football, then you're not really playing good football."-John Madden

by black patch and silver swords on Oct 23, 2011 12:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Here is an interesting stat

in the last wo games which DVD started in both his burn rate is 35.3% (6 of 17) – 3rd best in the league

ONE NATION UNDER AL

RIP Mr Davis 1929 - 2011

by Ozraider on Oct 23, 2011 6:06 AM PDT reply actions  

McCoy deep left to Cribbs in endzone to for tie- pass dropped (DvD triumphantly wags finger as though he made play)

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 23, 2011 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly the Chiefs will sell out to stop DMC

The question is.. can Boller take advantage of that?

Offensively, KC will be looking for a lot of quick slants to Bowe. I’m not confident in KC’s ability to stop the Oakland D pressure.

Should be a tight matchup.

Twitter: RaiderHater86

by ExRoyalsFan on Oct 23, 2011 8:28 AM PDT reply actions  

This From NFL.com Should Also Apply To Pryor...Put The Boy In Action Jack!!!
If Palmer makes his debut, it could be a cozy opponent to do so against. The Chiefs, despite the presence of Tamba Hali, have just five sacks this season, second-worst in the NFL. And opponents have a 116.32 passer rating vs. the Kansas City blitz this season, also second-worst in the NFL.

by PantyRaider on Oct 23, 2011 8:49 AM PDT reply actions  

10/22/2011 Signed K Dave Rayner, waived DB Ron Parker

by PantyRaider on Oct 23, 2011 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Anyone Missing Zack For This Game???
Seahawks: Tight end Cameron Morrah, recovering from surgery on a toe injury from last year’s NFC playoffs, was activated from the physically unable to perform list for Sunday’s game at Cleveland. Former Raider Pro Bowl tight end Zach Miller already was ruled out with head and neck injuries.

by PantyRaider on Oct 23, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I feel bad for him.... but the writing was on the wall...

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 23, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

PS Happy Birthday Panty

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Oct 23, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  


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