Perfect Storm for Chiefs: KC cruises in Oakland

by GMtalk on Oct 23, 2011 5:37 PM PDT

We already knew there were a few cards dealt to the Raiders in this division matchup that on their face could pose daunting for the Silver and Black, but little did we know that Kansas City would be as dominating defensively as they were on Sunday, shutting out the Raiders 28-0.

In what was a perfect storm for the Chiefs, the leagues leading rusher Darren McFadden came up lame on his first reception of the game for 4 yards early in the first quarter. After heading off the field and into the dressing room, the Raiders immediately paid the price for their instability at quarterback with an early interception thrown by Kyle Boller. Michael Bush took advantage of the opportunity by having a solid game and the Raiders defense did what they could constantly working against a short field, but 6 (that's right we said SIX) interceptions would prove way too much to overcome.

Sunday was Boller's chance to show the Raiders and potentially a future suitor that the former 1st round draft pick was capable of being a solid quarterback in this league. The injury to incumbent starter Jason Campbell and the short time afforded to newly signed Carson Palmer in his understanding of the Raiders offense, would translate into Boller starting an important division game against the Chiefs on Sunday. The Chiefs as expected sent numbers at the line hoping to slow down the 2nd rated rushing attack in the NFL and force Boller to make the throws, often against single coverage, that the Raiders would need to thwart the defense's agression. Boller was hurried and innacurate and had thrown 3 interceptions before the half, completing 7 of 14 passes for 61 yards. What made things even worse is Boller actually completed passes for more yards for the Chiefs, including a 59 yard pick six than he would for the Raiders. The Chiefs offense didn't do much and they didn't need to. Their defense did all the scoring they would really need.

In what may of been the plan all along, Hue Jackson made the call to play Carson Palmer to start the second half. Without the half-time break to analyze what plays were being run for Palmer, Hue and company may of felt that they could give him a handful of things to work from in the second half. Down 14-0, and after the 3 interceptions by Boller, nothing happened in the first half to change his mind. Whether that was the case all along or if the first half performance by Boller was what decided it for the Raiders is anyone's guess but Palmer showed why Hue didn't put him out there to start the game. Mixed in with some nice connections over the middle, Palmer showed the rust of not playing in the league for over 9 months. Not only was he just working himself into making the throws but his timing was off with his receivers. The ball was placed in positions on occasion on outs and plays near the perimeter where he and his receivers were clearly not on the same page. The inconsistency resulted in 3 additional interceptions thrown by Palmer for a combined six on the day for the Raiders. Michael Bush would finish the day with 99 yards and filled in admirably for McFadden but the quarterback carousel for the Radiers developed into a perfect storm for the Chiefs as the Raiders get exposed against KC. Final score in Oakland, 28 to nothing.

The Raiders will look to put this behind them and get healthy going into the bye week. The additional reps and time with the playbook should benefit Palmer as he begins to build timing with his recievers and an understanding of where they are going to be. Hopefully for the Silver and Black, tests on McFadden's foot come back negative and Janikowski uses the time to rehab and work out the issues he's having with a hamstring that kept him out of this game. The Raiders did receive the benefit of finding out that the Chargers had lost at the Jets and still only sit one game back in the West. After a horrible start to the season, KC is now unbeaten in 3 games and look forward to a matchup next week with the Chargers in a divison that is turning out to be the wild wild west. This has been another installment of GMtalk here on Silver and Black Pride. Thanks for making us a favorite place for all that is Raider Nation.

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Keep up the good work Carson

And earn your former team a top 5 pick. He lost 10 in a row for us last year. Looks like another streak is starting up, lol.

by redrifle14 on Oct 23, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

Its his first start after less than a week with the Raiders

Lets see how he does for the rest of the season before we make judgments like that.

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by Jack'sAxe on Oct 23, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Our receivers are maturing fast now, and Palmer is the guy to match them.

You so prematurely judge CP and I think that you have some concerns over his abandonment of your team that you really wish him failure. Perhaps next time we play Cincishitty Palmer may show you why he came to us.

by RaiderPsycho on Oct 23, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Either way

At least he doesn’t have to live in Ohio. And we don’t either. So win for all of us.

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by resident troll on Oct 23, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

ok that was funny

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by Ozraider on Oct 24, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions

Just sounds like sour grapes

Anderson, Esiason, Palmer, Dalton. It doesn’t matter. it won’t matter no SB past or present for the Bengals.

by rightnasty on Oct 23, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Just got back from the shoot.

The bye could not have come at a better time. We all know Palmer is going to start after the bye week, no doubt getting extended time with the offense. Hopefully McFadden gets healed as well. We still have 4 more divisional games next. One in KC and one against Denver, and two against San Diego.

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 23, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

nice review, GM ... Bush did a helluva job today, and when DMC is back, along with Seabass, and Palmer gets settled it, the Raiders will once again be a force to reckon with

have to say I was pleasantly stunned by the game today … the Raiders defense was tough as expected, and Cassel did pretty much nothing after one early drive … it was the Chiefs defense that made the difference, going full blast all day long, and the CB’s doing what they had to do, what they were supposed to do

I remember your comment from yesteday about the Chiefs secondary (it wasn’t very flattering) and I did try to warn you about Flowers and Carr … now you’ve seen them in action, at their finest

can’t wait for the rematch, should be fun!

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by upamtn on Oct 23, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

Raiders sure made the 30th ranked pass defense look like world beaters

I think 7 weeks into the season, the Chiefs aren’t as good as they looked today and the Raiders quarterback situation won’t be as bad… but when ur right ur right, flowers and carr stepped up and got it done today.

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by GMtalk on Oct 23, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions

We're not as good as we looked today, and you're not as bad as you looked today

but we showed that we are better than most people thought we were before the game.

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by Sudden on Oct 23, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Well it's kind of interesting

Cassell didn’t have a very good day, but Breaston and Bowe did. It’s probably damned lucky for us you don’t have a premium QB otherwise that could have been much worse.

Speaking of worse, catch the score of the New Orleans game? Yikes.

by rightnasty on Oct 23, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions

its hard to not have a great day when the opposing offense throws 6 INTs

lol

by Jack'sAxe on Oct 23, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

It wasn't just your QBs throwing 6 picks

it was our DBs getting six picks. Some of those picks were good plays by the DBs, knowing when to break on a route and catching it in stride to run it in. Although the QBs telegraphed it a bit, you still shouldn’t understate the ability of the DBs to execute.

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by Sudden on Oct 24, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions

Coverage was excellent

However all of Bollers picks were bad and avoidable. One of Palmers picks was a terrible pass and a great read by the corner. The deflection was a QB/WR issue more than a coverage play. The third pick by Palmer while he was being hit could have been caught by Murphy if he was paying attention. He wasn’t, the pass was a tad off target, and it was a good pick. Your DB’s were in position and played well, but good QB’s or QB’s that know more than 10 plays don’t make those throws. Still, the KC coverage was pretty impressive.

by lakers007raiders on Oct 24, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Chiefs would not be 30th ranked with Eric Berry...

improvise, adapt, and overcome.

by cpa913 on Oct 23, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions

figured we might loose this game…not like we did…but then I was counting on DMac…but Bush did play well…and we need to figure out how to make a fuck’n yard when we need one…we have been stopped again when we needed just 1yrd for a TD or 1st down…didn’t think Boller was going to be that bad…not happy but not hitting the panic buttom yet…Palmer will look better…and I hope we can get healthy with the bye week…we SHOULD beat the Donks and then we can’t afford to get our ass kicked in the next 5 games…this will be the stretch where we either make a stand or fall flat on our face…

by Tony Evans on Oct 23, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

I'm not worried

Palmer came in and played better then Boller off of 3 days of practice and probably about 10 plays that he knew for sure.

There was a particular throw I saw him make that got me really excited. Palmer dropped one into Bey I believe it was with 3 defenders around him. The ball was in the perfect spot for the catch to be made and anyone who knows what an elite qb looks like knows that throw does not get made by most.

Yes he threw 3 picks with Moore getting an assist on one of those. You might even be able to credit an assist to Murphy as the 3rd pick was the result of him getting blasted off of his route to the point where he was nowhere near where he should have been. Palmer got dealt a rough hand today as I don’t think Hue had any intention of playing him originally. And if the insider info I heard is correct, no one else thought Palmer was going in at all.

by TheDudeAbides138 on Oct 23, 2011 10:26 PM PDT reply actions

Agreed. KC are on the rise and we just lost our starting QB so you can't read to much into the result

I do think that this game illustrates what a good job JC has done this season and that Palmer is going to have to be absolutely on top of his game if DMC is out for a prolonged period.

I think the game against the Donkeys is going to be harder than people re making out too.

by animal_mutha on Oct 24, 2011 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions

Shit that sucked

What a mess. Injuries, penalties, Boller, rookie head coaching mistakes, 3 day old QB, and overall weather wise a nice day. This game sucked, a lot. I can’t stress it enough really. Talk about a perfect storm for the Chiefs. This bye week could not come any sooner. On the plus, Carson has his arm back, his deep ball looks good, his accuracy looked very good, and overall I’m very excited to see him learn the playbook. Once he gets timing patterns down with the receivers and learns more than 10 plays and DMC comes back, oh we going to be bad. Still, for now, shit that sucked no?

by lakers007raiders on Oct 24, 2011 2:08 AM PDT reply actions

CBA & Practice

The new CBA gives players four consecutive days off during a bye week. Unless Carson and WRs get together on their own, he will not be getting as much practice as we/he/Hue would like.

by Mallard Davis on Oct 24, 2011 7:54 AM PDT reply actions

Carson said in his media session yesterday that the receivers are staying in Oakland so they can practice together. He said that the goal is for Carson to be ready by Wednesday before the Donkeys game.

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by aleatoric on Oct 24, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions