Post Blow-Out Questions and Rant: Chiefs @ Raiders.
Like many of you, I was watching the game & screaming at the TV for Hue Jackson to pull Boller after his 2nd INT. (but he didn't). Hindsight is always 20/20 but I still maintain that it was good idea to start Kyle over Carson for obvious reasons, even though he sucked ass. Yes, the argument can be made that this was the first week that Boller had the majority of the snaps and that Samson Satelle and Jared Veldheer were not doing a great pass blocking job but, (as Ed Lover would say) "C'Mon Son!" 3 Interceptions in the first half! This dude is horrible. Yes, I know Carson threw 3 INT's as well but 2 of this were actually the reciever's faults. The first 1 was all Carson. Correct me if I'm wrong, but on the that first interception, it looked like the Chiefs were playing a Tampa 2 defense. Carson didn't make the right read and he also locked onto the receiver, thusly causing his first costly turnover. The second interception was on Denarius Moore. The ball was thrown well and it bit him on the hand. The third interception was Louis Murphy's fault. Carson was leading him and he didn't even try to make the catch.
The bottom line is, our two quarterbacks threw 6 interceptions and we got our asses beat by a team that we shouldn't have lost to. Can't cry over spilled milk now. It's time to move on to the confident Denver Bronc-Hoes with their Tim Tebow man crush. Before we officially put this game behind us though, I did have a few questions and pet peeves.
- Most players who get hurt and aren't "able" to return to the game, usually go back to the sideline after removing their pads. Why was Darren McFadden still dressed out and "standing" on the sideline? If he has a sprained ankle, one would think that he would take off the extra weight of the pads and also take his weight off the injured ankle. Something tells me that he could have gone back in but Hue wouldn't let him.
- Rolando McClain hasn't proven to be anywhere close to what we wanted in a MLB. He already can't cover well and he didn't practice the entire week because of his ankle/foot injury. Yet, he still started the game!? WTF? He couldn't push off his foot and as a result, he gave a first down on a 3rd down because he couldn't quite get their in time to knock the ball down. Blackstock should have started the game.
- Michael Huff and his non-tackling ass is really pissing me off. He gets paid waaaaaaay too much to be so mediocre. He should only be on the field as a nickel corner or as a blitzing safety. He is over-rated, over-payed and consistently under-performing. We officially have 5 safeties on the team now with the addition of Chinedum Ndukwe. His body of work is much better than Huff's and he plays the ball much better too. My vote is make Ndukwe the starting Free Safety.
- Why did we wait so late to get Kevin Boss involved in the offense as a receiver?
- I'm beginning to think that last year was a fluke for Jacoby Ford as a receiver. Maybe I'm being to quick to pass judgement on him right now but he is not doing anything worth a damn other than KR and end-a-rounds. Did you see the screen pass where ran into his own blocker and "tackled himself"?
- If McFadden was ruled out the rest of the game, why didn't we see more of Taiwan Jones?
- Since we were losing by 28 in the 4th, why didn't coach put in Terrel Pryor? The game was far out of reach so this would have been a good time to see what the kid had.
- For all the Jason Campbell Haters out there, PHUCK YU! He helped us get to 4-2 and we would have been 5-1 if the defense had made a few stops in the Buffalo game. Jason played his ass off that game. The question is, if Jason is actually healthy enough to come back in 5-6 more weeks, does he deserve to resume his duties as a starter or does he automatically become a backup?
- Do you realize that with the Carson Palmer trade, the Raiders have now used 3 picks in the 2012 draft on Quarterbacks? (uuugghhh) (1st Round - Carson Palmer, 3rd Round - Terrel Pryor, 4th Round - Jason Campbell) What's really going on?
- I love Hue Jackson's enthusiasm and all his other positive attributes, but his play calling sometimes (especially today) is killing me. Why in the hell would you call a "Running-Back Direct Snap" on 4th and Goal? Who in the hell are you trying to fool? He had Bush, Jones, Ford, Boss, Heyward-Bey. Moore. Murphy, Hagan and Myers. He could have spread it out 4 or 5 wide and threw it or let Boller run it in. But hey, I'm just an angry fan who can't stand to see his team get blown out at home byt the Queefs! What the hell do I know? (Did I also mention that he called the Flea Flicker....TWICE! If you're gonna do that, you might wanna tell Darrius Heyward-Bey that he needs to act like he's down field blocking first and then take off on his route. He pretty much just ran his route as soon as he got off the line and the DB covered him just like he was supposed to. No trickery there.)
I would really appreciate if someone could provide some insight on these issues please.
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Tough game
Good points. I don’t think Ford is a fluke, he just got back to playing again 2 weeks ago right? And now he’s catching passes from what his third QB since returning? And Moore has disappeared in games lately too, possibly coverage schemes. Don’t know why Boss isn’t thrown to more, game design perhaps? Campbell would have won this game for us, I’m sure of that. He doesn’t make the mistakes Boller makes and knows the playbook. DMC looked pretty pissed being on the sidelines, but I’m glad he stayed out. We can’t afford to lose him this year. Hue made some typical rookie head coaching mistakes. Too many trick plays, not naming a starter earlier in the week, and overall not being prepared for the injuries that hit us. No Seebass either dictated certain drives. Jones didn’t get more runs because I believe he’s still a rookie. And rookies trying to make plays by themselves tend to lead to more mistakes. Curry played pretty good and Blackstock should have started the whole game, Death Ro is hurt. We only had two active DB’s, that is crazy. Huff has never been a good tackler, he just needs to stick to ball hawking and blitzes. On the plus, I think once Palmer learns the system we are going to be very good. His deep ball looked impressive, his accuracy was pinpoint, and he looked calm. His timing routes were terrible, he made one really bad read that got picked 6, and he knew maybe 10 total plays. It was expected. Boller laid a solid turd today too. It happens, he’s Kyle Boller. Either way, I’m so glad for this bye.
by lakers007raiders on Oct 24, 2011 2:21 AM PDT reply actions
okay
I will digress on the Jacoby Ford comment. I’m a little heated after getting blown out at home. But not getting Boss involved and this ankle mystery about McFadden still has me puzzled and pissed.
What's really going on?
“Do you realize that with the Carson Palmer trade, the Raiders have now used 3 picks in the 2012 draft on Quarterbacks? (uuugghhh) (1st Round – Carson Palmer, 3rd Round – Terrel Pryor, 4th Round – Jason Campbell) What’s really going on?”
After spending first round picks on Russell and Marinovich, we’ve had to acquire other QBs. Picking up free agents over of waivers. Pryor is a cheaper gamble on the future.
hunh?
Russel and Marinovich are 16 NFL drafts apart. That’s not a good comparison to my answer my question. 3 QB’s in 1 draft is not smart. The trade for Jason Campbell was a good one. I’ll even agree with the reach to get Pryor for the future in the 3rd round. But to spend another same round draft pick on another QB…..a 1st at that. I understand that Hue wants to win now, but “C’Mon Son!” With the way our pass defense has been playing, we are not going to a Super Bowl this year. We’ll be lucky to win the AFC West.
Jason was in a contract year and has been playing some pretty good ball. What message does the Carson Palmer trade send to him….honestly? “You WERE our guy for the next 3-5 years but now you’re not. You can be our back-up though. Sorry you got hurt.”
That offense is driven by Darren McFadden. If he had a season ending injury, would we have traded away a first round pick for a seasoned RB? I think not.
I’m not being a pessimist but I’m just saying, whether Palmer plays good or not, trading away our 1st round pick for him was NOT a smart move. We could have made draft day trades and gotten a couple of second picks + maybe a 4th or 5th round for it.
The point is
We’ve traded for better QBs than we’ve drafted, and clearly Hue thought he saw a chance to upgrade over Jason so he went for it. Jason is in the last year of his contract. I don’t think they told him he was the man for the next 3-5 years. Hue is trying to put together the best team on the field he can, and he probably just doesn’t want to throw more draft picks at our problems when we’ve already got so many rookies and second year men that need time to develop as it is.
Disagree
Hue has a man crush on Carson Palmer just like Tom Cable had on Bruce Gradkowski. I don’t see Palmer being an upgrade over Campbell at all. Jason has done nothing but be leader on and off the field and represent the organization well. I understand the need for a QB because of his injury but not at the price we paid. If I were Jason, this would be a slap in the face to me.
Look
I’m not telling you Hue is a genius, and is always right. I was just explaining the thinking that went into the decision process. Carson and Hue go way back so no doubt he would tend to be biased in his opinions, but it’s too soon to render a judgement on this.
I give Hue props on throwing around a lot of picks for a good QB
What else are the Raiders missing at this point? Better to swing for the fences and get struck out then never to swin at all. I think your solid QB play away from being SB contenders.
2012 is looking Awesome!
Thanks
Appreciate the vote of confidence from a division rival. Funny thing is I was thinking similar thoughts about the Chiefs. Noticed yesterday, just about everybody on your team had a good day, but no so much for Cassel. I was hearing people from AP last year saying they thought he was holding them back, but it’s harder for an outsider to tell. After yesterday though, I’m inclined to agree with them.
Matt Cassel was just trying to keep Oakland in the game.
He spent years carrying the clipboard while Palmer was starting at USC, and has a man crush on Carson.
However, the Raiders are so pathetic even Matt Cassel couldn’t give you a fighting chance. KC touchdowns were scored by a cornerback, a cornerback, a special teams guy, and an offensive lineman (even though they credit the FB who clearly fumbled short of the goal line.)
How humiliating is that?
Well considering our injury list
Including our starting QB, RB and MLB, I don’t think it was anymore humiliating than this game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20110102012
must have been for Chief’s fans.
































