Raiders vs Vikings: quotes from around the web
[This is the two teams'] 13th regular-seaon meeting. Raiders lead series, 8-4. Vikings won the last meeting 29-22 on Nov. 18, 2007 as Chester Taylor ran for 164 yards and scored on runs of 10, 38 and 6 yards. For the Raiders, Daunte Culpepper, playing against his former team, passed for 344 yards, and Sebastian Janikowski kicked five field goals. The Raiders beat the Vikings 32-14 in Super Bowl XI in Pasadena for their first championship on Jan. 9, 1977.
Both the Raiders rookie receiver Denarius Moore and the Vikings rookie tight end Kyle Rudolph made spectacular one-handed catches in prime-time games last week. While Rudolph has been a bright spot for the Vikings, Moore has kept the Raiders in the playoff picture by giving Carson Palmer exactly what he needs, on and off the field. "Denarius Moore doesn’t say anything," Palmer told The San Francisco Chronicle. Having spent a year living through "The T.Ocho Show," Palmer deserves a little therapeutic silence. Pick: Raiders.
Vikings offensive line vs. Raiders pass rush
When Christian Ponder does drop back to pass, he’ll need to get the ball out quickly or risk taking some shots from a physical and talented Oakland defensive line. Minnesota’s offensive line hasn’t given Ponder, and Donavan McNabb before him, the greatest protection this season and anything less than their best efforts here could cause problems for Ponder. The Vikings are especially weak in pass protection off the edge. Tackles Charlie Johnson and Phil Loadholt have allowed a combined 12 sacks and their cumulative pass protection grades (-8.7 and -14.9 respectively) leave much to be desired.
Kamerion Wimbley (+28.4) will look to take advantage of this when he rushes from the edge in the nickel. Second only to Von Miller in our SLB rankings, Wimbley put on a dominant four sack performance on Thursday Night Football in his last appearance and though he won’t be rushing against backups this time around, he’s more than capable of making disruptive plays against this pair of tackles. On the interior, long-time stars Richard Seymour (+15.1) and Steve Hutchinson (+10.2) will have the opportunity to try and beat each other. Even without taking Wimbley into consideration, all four starting Raiders defensive linemen grade out well in pass rushing, while only Hutchinson has graded in the green in pass protection for the Vikings.
Raiders offensive line vs. Vikings defensive line
In both the running game and passing game, Minnesota’s defensive line has a distinct advantage over the Raiders’ offensive line. The most interesting battle in the trenches is between left tackle Jared Veldheer (+3.2) and DRE Jared Allen (+25.6), with rookie left guard Stefen Wisniewski providing help. Veldheer grades out as the Raiders best offensive lineman with Wisniewski being the only other starter with a positive grade, while Allen would be the best player on most defensive lines.
While the rest of the Raiders offensive line grades out poorly, Allen has plenty of help. DLE Brian Robison (+9.4) has cooled off considerably after a sizzling start, but showed he could be a pass-rushing menace over the first five games. Kevin Williams has been one of the best interior rushers in the league his entire career and plays the run effectively as well. Players like Erin Henderson (+15.7) have no trouble filling the gap and finishing plays. Bush isn’t really the type of runner to force a lot of missed tackles, so the Raiders’ rushing attack could be in trouble if his line can’t keep the Vikings out of the backfield.
CSN Bay Area: Raiders lead the NFL in big plays.
The stats supplied by STATS LLC bear this out. Consider: Oakland's 54 plays of at least 20 yards leads the NFL. The league average, meanwhile, is 36.
Hue Jackson's "build a bully" mantra begins in the trenches and, accordingly, the Raiders have a league-leading 17 runs of at least 20 yards this season. The league average? Seven.
And the addition of Carson Palmer has not hindered the vertical game so loved by the late Davis, and embodied by former QB Daryle "The Mad Bomber" Lamonica. In fact, it's only been enhanced.In 76 attempts, Palmer has 17 completions of at least 20 yards; Jason Campbell had 17 such completions in 165 attempts.
And Palmer is seven-for 16 for 237 yards with three touchdowns and an interception for a 104.2 passer rating on passes of at least 21 yards through the air.
This week, Palmer will feast on a Minnesota defense that has given up 18 touchdown passes (only Indianapolis has allowed more). The Vikings' Achilles heel has been the big play, having allowed eight completions of 40 or more yards. And to make matters worse, Minnesota will be without cornerback Antoine Winfield (broken clavicle).
The Raiders have one of the AFC's most exciting young receiving corps, as three receivers have recorded a 100-yard game at some point this year. Of them, Denarius Moore offers the most potential this week. Palmer threw to the rookie almost exclusively last week after Jacoby Ford was lost to an injury. [We] can expect more of the same against Minnesota.
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and keep the penalties down to 6-7
Girlfriend: So the guy who catches the ball is the catcher, right?
Me: No. They are called wide-receivers. Catchers play baseball.
Girlfriend: Samething.
Wouldnt be the first time we held an elite back from hurting us.
We’re just inconsistent. The need to stuff him is vital, but also not overlook Ponder’s skills and pounding him like we did to Phyllis.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Nov 18, 2011 12:13 PM PST reply actions
3 is the key number: 3rd Downs (Poise, no penalties, good execution), 3rd Quater (wake up and smell the coffee), #3 Calmer Bomber - commence fire, shred em at will
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
3 penalties total & +3 turnover ratio would also = 1 W.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
I dare say
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 19, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Vegas Insider
Has the Vikings by 1. The Raiders are 5-3-1 against the spread this year. I’m surprised they would pick Minnesota on this one. Especially since we are 3-1 on the road.
AFC West Assassins...
Perfect! Underdog is best for us and 1 pt achieves that best
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 18, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Hue should use that fact as motivation for this
sometimes motivationaly challenged team.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Why this 'motivational issue' is even an issue is infuriating. Does GB post such items in its lockeroom? I doubt they need
such Highschoolish ploys to manipulate their players to do their jobs each week. I hate this aspect of the Raiders even more than its DNA for penalties.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 19, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
We know what we should see, what the matchups on paper will dictate...
time to execute. Dominate the trenches.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
We Have Returned To Our Roots At Last...And They Said It Was Outdated!!!
CSN Bay Area: Raiders lead the NFL in big plays.
points it out very clearly that we are again in that old Sid Giman “V-O” and “CP3” will make it blossom into what was again for us…For those who can remember…This was the Al Davis “O” that he brought with him from his days at the LA Chargers under Sid Giman……
Vertical Offense with Power Running Reborn!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Lots of great exposure to the youth of late with Al Davis memorial specials
and many who are too young to have seen or remember it at all saw it firsthand via some of these shows and articles. I’ve been enjoying the stories for decades.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
So true (and witness to man's complex state, that brilliant truth can come from the same mind that harbors falsehood)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 19, 2011 7:05 AM PST up reply actions
Al assembled everything for this to occur except (for QB evaluation was AD's glaring weakness) the key piece
that essential deed was accomplished by Hue within days of Mr. Davis’ passing.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 19, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions
"SOB"...Word Was That Al Was Interested But Their Hardline Said No??
Than later when Hue approached it again down to the wire they made a deal and took the picks…Miami was reportedly offering the house early on and a few other teams were also showing interest…Than it was reported that only Hue could have made this deal because of his relationship with Cincy….
Reportedly so nothing is really known???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Anyway Regardless Of Al's Involvement "VP3" Is Obviously Ezactly What Al Would Have Prefered...
A vet “QB” who is already developed with the big arm and no fear of using it while being able to thread the needle…I can’t think of a single thing about this that Mr Davis would not have liked???
Another Thought: Sense the talk about Hue’s take over has died down it’s safe to speculate now that Hue has ulterior future plans for 2 of his new acquisitions…
“TJH”…Future "WR"s Coach
“CP3”…Future "QB"s Coach
Both of these cats enjoy taking players under their wings and teaching them the ropes so I think Hue knowing them well has this in mind…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
It's more like Al wouldn't pay the price Cincys hardliners were asking.
especially since at the time he had Campbell already to go.
It wasn’t until we were desperate after Al’s passing and after Campbell went down that we were willing to pay the steep price being asked.
Hue was the only one that could have made this trade and I’m glad he did.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Sounds As Reasonable As Anything Reported...
Miami was evidently told no at any price from the reports if true???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Nov 19, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
The "Stork"???...I Can't Think Of Another "LB" Who Was Worth That???
The Moss deal was for a 1st as was the Seymour trade…Trying to remember who we even gave up a 1st for recently??
"Tebowphobe"!!!
ex-Bengali - longtime CP fan here...
"Moore has kept the Raiders in the playoff picture by giving Carson Palmer exactly what he needs, on and off the field. “Denarius Moore doesn’t say anything,” Palmer told The San Francisco Chronicle. Having spent a year living through “The T.Ocho Show,” Palmer deserves a little therapeutic silence"
This quote says everything I have been communicating in my posts re: what CP had to endure in Cincy. What is often not reported is both the owner (mikeyboy brown) and head coach (giggles lewis) were enablers of o-stinko leaving Carson in a no-win situation.
The Bengali Radio Analyst (Dave Lapham) now reports..
o-stinko has limited intelligence and could not grasp playbook. He frequently ran his own route and not the route called in huddle as well as having “alligator arms” and not reaching for ball when tageted. Obviously this led to increasing interceptions for CP.
Funny how the radio analyst and sports media never reported that information last year but chose to report how Carson’s arm & accuracy had faile while they supported o-stinko, the selfish diva/cancer.
I really hope CP3 leads Raiduhs to a SB title this year and stuffs it down the throat of all the Carson haters beginning with owner, head coach and especially o-stinko.
They Had No Choice But To Report It when He Stunk In "NE"...What Else Could They Say??
The alternative would be to pimp that "NE"’s coaches don’t know how to utilize the player and ya know that ain’t happening regarding their “Media Angles”!!!…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
































