Cutler won't play, but let's not forget about Caleb Hanie
by Kyle_B on Nov 21, 2011 1:12 PM PST
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PrintWhen I first saw the news that Jay Cutler had broke his hand, I was afraid to say that I was happy about it. I never root for injury and I like seeing teams that are 100% healthy. That being said, I'm very happy that Jay Cutler won't be playing football this weekend in Oakland. However, I'm not exactly looking forward to playing against Cutler's backup, Caleb Hanie.
My only memory of Caleb Hanie is his second half appearance in last year's NFC Championship game. After Green Bay knocked out Cutler and Todd Collins, the Bears turned to Hanie. Trailing 14-0, Hanie looked very good and actually made it a competitive game. Here's a recap of what he did from ESPN:
Then little-known backup Caleb Hanie and the Bears (12-6) actually made it a game.
Chicago's third-string quarterback rallied the Bears for a touchdown drive to cut the lead to 14-7 after Chester Taylor's 1-yard touchdown run early in the fourth quarterHanie had a chance to tie the game after the Bears' defense finally got a few stops, but threw a ball straight to Packers defensive lineman B.J. Raji, who lumbered 18 yards into the end zone for a touchdown to give the Packers a 21-7 lead.
But Hanie wasn't finished. He threw a 35-yard touchdown pass to Earl Bennett to again cut the lead to seven points with 4:43 left.The Bears forced a punt and got the ball back with under 3 minutes left. Hanie drove the Bears to the Green Bay 29-yard line, then threw a fourth-down interception to Sam Shields -- the rookie's second of the game
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=310123003
I know that is an extremely small sample size, but I remember that game well and I thought Hanie was impressive. This morning I wanted to find out a little more about him, so I found this profile of Hanie written by Kevin Seifert: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/34650/who-is-caleb-hanie
Here are some highlights:
Who is Caleb Hanie? Bears fans know him as a 26 year old, athletic scrambler with a live arm who has produced some exciting preseason moments.....
Playing style: The best way to describe Hanie's game is "wide open." He is quick to leave the pocket and fast enough to make plays when he does it. In parts of 13 career preseason games, Hanie has scrambled 17 times for 92 yards and a touchdown.
Ugh, an athletic QB who can pick up yards on the ground? The thought of Hanie running all over our D gives me Tebow flashbacks... But the profile isn't all good. Apparently, Hanie has an issue with turning over the ball:
That style has left him open to turnovers, however. He has committed eight turnovers in those preseason games, including six interceptions.
So I guess there are still some reasons he's a second string QB..
I know that all of this is based on an extremely small sample size, but this is all we have to go on. How do you think Hanie will do against the Raiders D? Will he be a scrambling touchdown machine or will he be a turnover prone second string QB?
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Three Words - Kyle Boller
Kyle Boller got all the snaps for a week in practice and we all saw how that went and he was a starter in the NFL for years. Yes, the Raiders need to be concerned with his running (can you say put a spy on him), but a backup QB getting reps for one week won’t be the second coming of Bret Favre.
Yeah but Kyle Boller has always sucked
Hanie, on the other hand, has always appeared to be at least decent if nothing else. And we have made some average QB’s look good this year so we have to stay focused.
Shucky Ducky Quack Quack.
by resident troll on Nov 24, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
...let's not forget about the fact
That stopping Forte and Barber will be our defense’s greatest achievement IF they can pull it off.
Agree and throw in Haine who has wheels. Beating the Bears would be our biggest win of the season - bigger than NYJs by far.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 21, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
I'd put Houston higher.
But still, I’m picking up what you’re laying down.
Yeah, Houston was bigger than NYJs but not as decisive. Houston didn't have Andre Johnson and Chicago doesn't have Cutler and we don't have DMC
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
Bush has already piled up more fantasy points than DMC
I like how they are taking turns tearing it up
AFC West Assassins...
I visited the Bears site when Big Al was alive, a bit before his death.
They posted pictures of Al and tried mocking and humiliating him in a manner that would belittle our AFCW opponents. They put up that entire post just for the sake of laughing at Al. It was sickening. I was convinced that site was composed of nothing but assholes. I hope Al gets some big time revenge up there with a big time win over those idiots.
by RaiderPsycho on Nov 21, 2011 8:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I shall pay my respects to their blog and assess their attitude. Thank you for this report.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 21, 2011 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, this is coming right off the Windy City Gridiron's front page:
Plain and simple, the Bears are into the easiest part of their schedule this last month and a half; at Oakland, vs. Kansas City, at Denver (who isn’t bummed that we don’t get to see Cutler vs. his old team, even if McDaniels isn’t there anymore), vs. Seattle, at Green Bay and at Minnesota. You really don’t think Hanie could pull out three of those?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
maybe we're a trap game for them
If they (the Bear fans themselves) are looking past us and think that they have this one in the bag even without Cutler then they are as delusional as they are portrayed in SNL
Hanie will be a bit of an unknown, but as stated above stopping Hanie will be secondary to stopping Forte and Barber.
This will be a very similar game to last week in what we need to do to win this game. Before Cutler was injured the Bears were a balanced offense, but now that Cutler has gone down they’ll have to rely more on their running game which makes them one dimensional and therefore easier to gameplan for.
So same as last week, sell out to stop the run and hammer Haine if he drops back to pass and score a lot of points and play all 60 mins. on both offense and defense.
Most of all, get a win for the home crowd and ensure sellouts for the rest of the year.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
We all hear you, Rambis !!!
My question is, does that tool of DC we got, is paying attention !!! Bring the heat to Haine, from down 1 !!! Where as it could be considered a trap game for them, I very much doubt if they’ve forgotten last year’s azz handling we gave them. I’m sure they’re showing them tapes of that game, and I don’t think they’re looking past the Raiders, especially now that Cutler’s down !!! My fear is Chuckroast might look past them !!!!
I don't know that old Chuckroast can see that far
but, as some have suggested here, he has put the players in positions to succeed and if they didn’t it’s on them too.
The scheme itself is at least partially at responsible for it requires top performing players at every position and with injury comes lesser players and more mistakes.
I’m in no way absolving Mr. Roast of his mistakes, just saying this is the defense we play and it has it’s draw backs, many of which we’re seeing now that we’re injury riddled and have lesser players out there than we might of otherwise had barring injury.
There is only so much ol Chuck can do, which is good because he’s really not capable of that much.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
I'm sure Chuck appreciates all these warm comments
I think his defense just had the game of the year. And they needed to, facing the hobbling Vikings.
AFC West Assassins...
I'm fairly sure Chuck doesn't read our little blog
Besides he has plenty to worry about and should be concentrating on stopping the Bears.
If that was our defenses game of the year, God help us, because the Bears are going to throw a lot more at them than Minnesota – Adrian Peterson did, and they’re going to need to play better still to get us a win in this one.
Hopefully you meant game of the year up to this point and that they will continue to get better and hopefully healthier.
It would be nice if our offense could throw up a few points in the second half to take some pressure off them too.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
I was mostly referring to big plays... and there were plenty
and I was thinking the same thing about him never hearing the words of the sewing circle, but that shit gets around… and I think he’s doing a good job this year. You can’t stop all offense without sacrificing your own offense in drafts. And I don’t think we are focused on being a totally defensive team. We are a very balanced football team who gives up about as much as it deals out. We so far, aside from QB issues, have played toe to toe in all these games. That’s what a team needs. To be able to compete. And we can. Do you think we have a chance against the Packers in a few weeks? Hell yeah.
AFC West Assassins...
There is always a chance,
but I’ll reserve judgment as to how we might fare against Green Bay until Ive seen our performances against Chi. and Mia.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Reminds Me
Hue said over and over that Al told him to not trust the plays, but the players. I disagree to a certain extent. You have to put the players in a position with plays or schemes to make the plays.
by Mallard Davis on Nov 23, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Easiest Part...
Meaning, we’re looking at 4-2 in this stretch… Wins at KC, Denver, Seattle, and Minnesota… (those look right? Right?)
And losses at GB and Oakland.
Considering the opening was Brutal (Atlanta, GB, Detroit, New Orleans), and the Middle contained the Bucs, Eagles (But at the time it was going to be ‘a hard game’), and the lions… This stretch is considerably easier than any other 6 week stretch so far? Are KC and Denver that good (or maybe you should ask are the Bears worse than the Jets?).
I don’t think the majority of us at WCG are delusional as to the fact this game is going to be tough… and that this is the last hurdle (especially because we’ve already written off GB as improbable to win). Stopping Forte and Barber will be the best bet on the defense (Really, it’s CONTAINING forte, not letting him get to the outside that will best serve you, because most of his big home runs are on the outside, to the right).
Also: ‘Score a lot of points’ is also a hopeful goal, but you’re not going to get to compete in a shootout with the bears. It’s not going to happen (ask Rivers about how he tried, got it to VJax, and got nothing! NOTHING!). You’re best bet is to not turn the ball over. The Bears turnover conversion is pretty good, and they’re tops in the league in differential. Hold onto the football, especially when catching the ball.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 22, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Well, Rivers only has VJak
and he didn’t get anything against us either and I wouldn’t call our secondary top notch.
How many speedy receivers can you cover? Of course we probably won’t have our full compliment of receivers this game, DHB probably out, Ford? but we’ll still have Moore, Schillens, Murphy and TJ Housh at wide out along with Boss and Myers at TE and Marcel Reese out of the backfield with an ever improving Carson Palmer throwing it to them.
That is a lot of weapons to cover..so good luck with that!
Then there is our run game…if your lucky you’ll see Bush and if you’re not D-Mac will comeback, either way it’s a handful. so good luck with that too!
Should be a good contest, our defense worries me as usual and we seem to play better on the road. It’ll probably come down to the last few seconds like most of our games.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
by rambis64 on Nov 22, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Speedy Recievers?
Probably 2, depending on the coverage scheme… In a lot of cover 1’s. I’d be much more hesitant because of the Relative speed of our safeties (which is where it’s most important in the Bears defense)… Tim Jennings & Peanut Tillman did fine jobs against D-Jax and Megatron… The latter is REALLY fast, and the former is Darn fast.
In reality, with the way the Bears are calling plays defensively, it’s going to be more: How is the interior of your line? I know you took down Jared Allen, but you have Julius Peppers now, and some DT’s who are fine at creating pressure up the middle more as of late, along with all the stunts, would Palmer be a sitting duck up the middle?
Run the ball. It’s your best bet.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 22, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
We will run it no doubt
and I didn’t mean to refer to Housh as speedy only the other 3
It will be interesting to see how we handle Peppers, you guys move him all over the place where Jared Allen rush only from the right side. Veldheer can handle it (as he did Allen) it’s the others on the right side that worry me. It will also depend on whether Sampson Satele comes back to play center or not, with Satele in there and Wiznewski at LG we are solid up the middle, but not as solid when Wiz has to play center and one of our other backup linemen Heyer or Barksdale are at LG.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Also
We only play 2 team with a winning record in the next six. Oakland and the Packers.
Everyone else (KC, Denver, Seattle, Min) are a combined 15-31, and they have an average Point Differential of -71 on the year…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 22, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Look out for Lord Teabag and his read option offense
plus Denver’s defense is playing at a much higher level than they were earlier in the season.
Just like we had better not look past Miami because of their record.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
The defense is good no doubt...
But, Mike Vick hasn’t beaten Chicago’s defense as a starter.
Tebow’s read option is going to be poorly position because of the speed and discipline of the LB’s and DE’s.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 22, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
I think it's kind of worrisome that we have to gameplan for a QB that we haven't ever seen in a full game that can move well.
At least had it been Cutler we are familiar with him and with the exception of Brady, we have had better success with pure pocket passers than mobile game managers. I’m just hoping the OC doesn’t get cute and start lining up Forte or Hester in the shotgun otherwise it might be a long day. Our defense needs to come together quick otherwise we are in for disappointment come Sunday evening.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
Mike Martz?
HE LOVES TO CALL WILDCAT PLAYS… when they make no sense.
But then again, it might make sense now?
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 22, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
This is the test we have been waiting for all year long.
At this point of the season, all our woes come to this brutal test. Cutler or not, i expect this to be a fight to the end, kinda like a Paquio and Marquez fight. Lots of punching, jabbing and weaving! I don’t know what the hell is going on with our team after halftime, and frankly i believe it has everything to do with the coaches. As a matter of fact i think it has allot to do with Besnahan. I’m not ripping the guy, he obviously knows what the hell he is doing, although me id blitz a little more, and even throw in a few more zones but come on haven’t we always been a man to man D. Our guys are better than yours mantra. To tell the truth at most of the positions except CB and LB, we are better. Our D line doesn’t have one but many key contributors, Scott, Shaunessey, Kelly, Seymour, Houston, Wimbley, and as of right now our FS ans SS are looking great with Huff, Giordano, Branch and Mitchell. I expect DVD and Checkwa to come together in time. Lito isnt a bad replacement, and Route has been doing his job. The addition of Curry was great but with Grothel out i don’t like our LB depth. I like black stock i think he has a lot of heart, but that guy gets exposed way to much. Same goes for Groves! McClain from what i can tell is a rather smart LB, you can see him communicating to the D line and other LBs..His problem is that he tackles poorley at times and misses his gap assignment. Our D is a great, it just has a bad leader in Bresnahan, and a few weak spots that O’s usually exploit.
by Raider_Renagade on Nov 22, 2011 1:33 PM PST reply actions
Regarding DHB
Steve Corkran:
OK, one time on this one, as well. He is walking, recovering well from a neck injury, as well as a concussion. Don’t imagine he will play this week, though. Good news to hear he is moving and recovering.
Probably not but one never knows. If we went 3 of 5 say Miami, KC & SD and Denver somehow pulled 4 or 6 out they could advance -
based on tie-breaker even though we both finish with a 9-7 record. So the only sure way s to keep winning.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
meant 3 of 6 wins for Oakland vs 4 of 6 wins for Denver
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2011 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
If SD beats Denver, we'll be in much better shape
That would put us ahead in the division tie breaker (assuming we beat SD and KC we’d go 4-2 to their 3-3). If we can get up by two games in the standings and be 7-4, I think we’d be in very good shape.
@ BasedRaiderFan
Yes it is. This team is 4-1 on the road and 2-3 at home. You bet your ass with a chance at hosting a home playoff game on the line if we lose to the Bears while they are trying to acclimate a new QB during the stretch run it could be the difference to whether or not Tebow and his self-righteousness come from behind and ruin our season. The next two weeks are must wins.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
With Cutler in there
We really didn’t stand much of a chance. With him out, we do, so we’d better make the most of it.
Colts don't have a Forte
Adai is pretty good, but not that good. They’re tanking on purpose. All those talented receivers to throw to plus Adai to run it, and Painter still sucks it up so bad they have to go to Orlovsky? Suck For Luck should be posted on the walls of their locker room if it’s not already.
Nor do the Colts have a defense.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 23, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
One or two players
does not an eleven-man-defense make.
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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 25, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Sadly
many teams have great running backs. But the great teams have three phases of football. Offense, defense, and special teams. It seems your defensive stance has worked once in the history of your team. You say Matt Forte is your saviour. But the team you are playing has a bada$$ in Michael Bush. Gonna give DMC an extra week off to get to 100%. What a freaking luxury, huh. ALONE
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