Bears vs. Raiders: Another Ugly Win for the Good Guys
by Rich Langford on Nov 28, 2011 4:01 AM PST
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PrintThat headline says it all. While you'd like the wins to be pretty, anytime you have another and win connected together it is a good thing. In this case it means the Raiders are 7-4, in first place in the AFC West and just one game back for the best record in the conference.
That was a glorious sentence to type.
As for this game, my goodness. The Raiders are true geniuses at making every win a nail biter. When Michael Bush plowed in for the Raiders only touchdown to give them a 25-13 lead, with just under four minutes left, I thought finally this team would get a win that wasn't hanging in the balance on the final possession.
That was a foolish thought. The Raiders promptly forced the Bears into a third and 16. They then let the Bears hit for a 500-yard pass play. And let the Bears score two plays later.
The Bears then lined up for an onside kick, and it looked like they recovered it. Luckily for the Raider David Ausberry was able to bully the ball away from the Bears.
This win adds to a remarkable stat for the Raiders. In six of their seven wins the opposing team has had a chance to at win the game with a TD and 2-point conversion on their final possession.
While the Raiders should have put this game out of reach with a better performance in the red zone, what they did accomplish is impressive.
The Raiders put up 25 points on an excellent defense. That is the fourth most points the Bears have allowed all season, and it was the most since Week 4. And they did this against the best the Bears' defense had to offer.
Chicago's defense was fired up for this game. The coaching staff had challenged the Bears' defensive line during the week and they responded with their best effort of the season. They dominated the Raiders' offensive line.
The Bears defense clearly rallied to make up for the loss of Cutler, and the Raiders were still able to defeat them. They likely won't face another defensive effort as solid as this for the rest of the regular season.
And they did this all without huge playmakers Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore. The offense benefited from great field position, but they still made some key plays in big moments.
There is a lot the Raiders need to improve on. Hopefully they will start to get healthy to facilitate them in this effort. And in the meantime they head into December with their best record since they went to the Super Bowl.
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It was a beautiful Win!
Just showed us that our Special Team is the best in Football. When, we get all 3 phases of our game going, we can be unstoppable. Defense is still improving and so will the offense once we get all of our key players back.
No let down @ Miami! Go Raiders!
The Current Play Off Picture: Week #12
Notes; Raiders hold the tie breakers over the Texans n Jets while “NE” holds the tie breaker over us…Texans are now down to their 3rd string “QB”…
AFCW:
“OakTown”-7-n-4
13 Dec 04 OAK @ MIA
14 Dec 11 OAK @ GB
15 Dec 18 DET @ OAK
16 Dec 24 OAK @ KC
17 Jan 01 SD @ OAK
“Donkey”!!! 6-n-5
13 Dec 04 DEN @ MIN
14 Dec 11 CHI @ DEN
15 Dec 18 NE @ DEN
16 Dec 24 DEN @ BUF
17 Jan 01 KC @ DEN
AFCS
Houston 8-n-3
13 Dec 04 ATL @ HOU
14 Dec 11 HOU @ CIN
15 Dec 18 CAR @ HOU
16 Dec 22 HOU @ IND
17 Jan 01 TEN @ HOU
Tenn 6-n-5
13 Dec 04 TEN @ BUF
14 Dec 11 NO @ TEN
15 Dec 18 TEN @ IND
16 Dec 24 JAC @ TEN
17 Jan 01 TEN @ HOU
AFCE
“NE” 8-n-3
13 Dec 04 IND @ NE
14 Dec 11 NE @ WAS
15 Dec 18 NE @ DEN
16 Dec 24 MIA @ NE
17 Jan 01 BUF @ NE
Jets 6-n-5
13 Dec 04 NYJ @ WAS
14 Dec 11 KC @ NYJ
15 Dec 18 NYJ @ PHI
16 Dec 24 NYG @ NYJ
17 Jan 01 NYJ @ MIA
AFCN
Ravens 8-n-3
13 Dec 04 BAL @ CLE
14 Dec 11 IND @ BAL
15 Dec 18 BAL @ SD
16 Dec 24 CLE @ BAL
17 Jan 01 BAL @ CIN
Pitts 8-n-3
13 Dec 04 CIN @ PIT
14 Dec 08 CLE @ PIT
15 Dec 19 PIT @ SF
16 Dec 24 STL @ PIT
17 Jan 01 PIT @ CLE
Cinci 7-n-4
13 Dec 04 CIN @ PIT
14 Dec 11 HOU @ CIN
15 Dec 18 CIN @ STL
16 Dec 24 ARI @ CIN
17 Jan 01 BAL @ CIN
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Broncos schedule
looks easier than ours coming down the stretch.
Torty Craig, we hardly knew ye.
by KlausChadman on Nov 28, 2011 7:13 AM PST up reply actions
nah i see them losing to the vikings to start things off
by EASTBAY RAIDERLOVE on Nov 28, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
A different take
I see Oakland as having tough games against GB and Detroit, but realistically we should take the other 3 to finish at 10-6. Getting injured players like DMac back in the lineup will certainly help with that. I think Denver is going to have a tough time against Chicago, NE, and Buffalo, and if we can pull off 10-6, then they can only lose one more game this year.
Throw in all that plus the fact that the league is going to figure out a way to stop Tebow, and I think we’re in a great position to win our division. We just have to take care of business and win those games that we should be ours for the taking.
Makes sense until you wrote this ...
Throw in all that plus the fact that the league is going to figure out a way to stop Tebow
Tebow is drawing more fans to the NFL and generating greater interest, so if anything, the powers will find a way to keep him playing through the playoffs. Add to that the leagues ingrained hatred for the Raiders and I become slightly alarmed.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
A plague of lice on all Raiderphobes
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 28, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I think he means the teams in the league
not Goodell and the league office.
You would think that between Minn. Chi. and NE one or all of these teams can and will figure out A) how to score big on offense against the Donko “D” and B) how to make sure that Teabow gets crushed every time he runs with the ball or both.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Tebow isnt Michael Bush
those Bears LBs are gonna pummel him
by RyanTheRaider on Nov 28, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
as long as they keep an eye on him yes
but it seems like teams loose track of Teabag or underestimate him.
they need to treat him like a RB and contain his ass!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Yeah
but if they get the hits on Tebow that they were getting on Bush, Tebows not gonna last.
by RyanTheRaider on Nov 28, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
What?
Tim Tebow is 6’2", 236 lbs.
Michael Bush is 6’1", 245 lbs.
They actually have a really similar frame. Tebow can take any hit that Bush can take.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I highly doubt that
Size isnt every thing
by RyanTheRaider on Nov 28, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Thats 205lbs vs 300lbs
and Branch still sticks him and brings him down
by RyanTheRaider on Nov 28, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Also
you think Tebow would be able to stay up like Bush did on that hit by Briggs near the goalline?
by RyanTheRaider on Nov 28, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
Take A Look At The Typical "QB"s Shoulder Pads....Smaller -n- Lighter???
That’s because they need to have the mobility for their arms/necks and are NOT expected to take all the hits of a “RB”….The gear between players is just simply not the same…Ever see a “QB” with that neck pad like a “LB” wears???
History has shown threw time that typically a “QB” can not take the punishment of a “RB” and survive…That’s the big knock on the running “QB” like “VY” is that they don’t finish a season…And last I looked “VY” is big also…
The real issue here is that this league is NOT going to allow any team to load up on Tebow the same way they allow them to load up on a “RB”…Whole new set of rules and the Tebow Protection has been very obvious…Take the hit but take the Fine as well…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
the point is
Tebow is roughly the same size as Michael Bush and has been running this read option offense for the last five years. There is no reason to think Tebow can’t take a hit like Bush can. He played in the SEC with the best defenses in college football including our own Rolando McClain. He never got hurt except one fluke concussion when he was tackled into his own man. Tebow is extremely durable and powerful in much the same fashion as Bush. Anyone’s opinion of how the league would handle teams trying to lay him out is irrelevant. I simply take umbrage with the idea that Tebow is somehow at risk and needs protection. He is built like a tank. He is larger than nearly every one of the guys trying to tackle him besides defensive tackles. It’s an absurd thing to believe.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Nov 28, 2011 11:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
How Does That Overcome The Equipment Deficiencies??
Does Tebow wear the same hip pads as Bush??…I rather doubt that…His shoulder pads will be smaller and maybe he wears a Gut-Pad…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Notice He's NOT All Taped Up Like A "RB" -n- The Lack Of Protection Around The Neck!!
Damn I hate filling this tread full of Tebow crap but as they say a Pic is worth a thousand denials!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
and this is where the under estimation of Teabag comes in
Guys think that he’ll go down easy because he’s a QB, but he doesn’t .
So they need to lay the wood to him and treat him like a RB.
Even if it draws a flag!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
They treat Vick this way and it works
But Vick is built very differently than Tebow. He’s smaller and more frail. You can hit Tebow all day long and he’ll keep getting back up. He proved that in college.
However, the more flags it draws when players actually do hit him hard enough to bring him down, the less players will hit him (it costs money) and the more dangerous Tebow will be. It’s just a hard thing for a defense to overcome.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Well...
what he proved in College was that he could take hits all day long from that caliber of player, he may have only absorbed a few NFL type hits in college, while he will be getting them all the time in the NFL
As soon as NFL defenses start treating him like a running back and force him to throw, his little run of success will be thwarted.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
It was nice to see them lose the penalty problem.
Hue and company must have been proud.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
Two Clubs
Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss
"Tebowphobe"!!!
We May Find Ourselves In A Must Win Situation weeks 16-17 as we finish out in the AFCW...
Raiders 7 4 0 2-2 5-4
Broncos 6 5 0 3-2 6-3
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I think winning ugly suits this team
If we were crushing guys and still 7-4 I think some of the players would get big heads and we’d be more susceptible to a trap game. I think it also proves to the team that we can overcome adversity and we can “bear down” and grind out wins if we need to.
I think it also shows that we still have room to improve and hopefully motivate guys to keep pushing hard in practice and get better at all facets of the game.
I think the game against Miami next week is a really tough one. They’ve gotten a lot of confidence in the past few weeks and were a botched snap away from beating Dallas. We are going to need to be on our A-game for this one. Mistakes and penalties will kill us in this game.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
So Far Their "O" Looks To Be Below Average -w- An Average "D:...
Strong in Scoring n Rushing “D”…Top 10…Mid range for most of the rest except Pass “D” is only #26…
“O” is consistently sub-20’s except for being #16 Rushing…
So this is another game where we need to concentrate on taking away the Run and commit to running ourselves even if it is slow going…The Pass should be there for us to exploit and our “OL” shouldn’t be under siege as was the case against da Bears…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Those overall stats don't really
show that Miami has been playing much better as of late, those stats are skewed by how poorly they played earlier in the season.
It’s not what they’ve done overall…it’s how they are playing now.
Although I do expect to beat Miami, I’m under no illusions that it will be an easy game.
After all no game has been easy so far, so why expect one now?
I would be nice (for once) to have the Raiders come out and stomp someone, but I can’t convince myself that it will be this week.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
This Is Why I Posted "Looks To Be" Rather Than "Is"???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Nov 28, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Ok,
but you sited the overall stats, thus the retort.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Davone Bess killed us last time
we’ll have to find an answer for the likes of him and Ginn. We’ll have our hands full with Reggie Bush, who is playing inspired football of late, putting to rest any questions if he’s capable of running between the tackles as well as outside.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
brain fart. Hartline...
I often associate guys who assume a prior player’s role with that player… and while the correct guy is in my mind, the names stay juxtaposed.
I remember both Bess and Hartline just eating us up. Henne was hitting everyone against us for huge catches. Moore’s a far better qb imo, so let’s hope our defensive backfield will be prepared for those guys.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
That and hopefully we can put big pressure on Moore too
and make him hurry his throws or sack his ass!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
They do have a great WR group
if they ever got a top 10 QB they could be a powerful offense
by RyanTheRaider on Nov 28, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Next year they will
Barkley or Landry
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
alright raiders let's keep it going
Miami will be no joke they are in upset mode and shouldn’t be taken lightly. Denver has been weighing on my mind and as much as I think tebow is unsustainable he is winning. We need them to lose to give us some space in this division.
by Toolshed1485 on Nov 28, 2011 7:13 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Being 3-n-2 In The AFCW -n- 6-n-3 In The AFC Is Worrisome If We Should Tie!!!
We have only 3 AFC games left to make up ground while we now trail by one in each of those Tie Breakers…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
The tie breaker situation is not pretty
I really wanted SD to win yesterday but at the same time it’s nice to see them in the basement this late in the season. If Rivers really is playing hurt they might just shut him down for the year.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Nov 28, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions
Why Turner pulled Mathews I will never know. Tolbert then proceeded to get stuffed.
by ROFLCOPTER16 on Nov 28, 2011 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
Like Donald Trump coined; You're fired!
Every man for himself...
by MMunoz33 on Nov 28, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Very good win especially considering
I thought Chicago won the battle in the trenches. That’s probably the worst game the O line has played all year and while our D-line had 4 sacks a lot of that was because their QB didn’t get rid of the ball.
We need to figure out how to score touchdowns in the redzone though, that’s gonna come back to bite us.
Good game to the Raiders
They’re impressive if they cut down on penalties, which is what happened yesterday. I thought the Bears might win by virtue of self-destruction.
Please continue winning cause I couldn’t stand for the Broncos to win the division with a gimmick offense.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader" - John Quincy Adams
I'm proud of our D. Watching Chicago's OL in warmups I was surprised by their size, Gigantic, and we handled them
with speed, toughness and determination. The LBs had their best game thus far which is very encouraging. Finally, Bresnahan called his best game of the season.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
A plague of lice on all Raiderphobes
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 28, 2011 9:01 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
NOT AN UGLY GAME WHAT SO EVER
sure we didnt get the TD’s that we all wanted but we moved the ball effectively on a very good D and still managed to put points on the board pretty much on every drive. My hat is off to the BEARS there defense is freaky. But our boys showed this league that though not perfect we are certainly a handful for any team we face, and thats at about 60% of our potential. You say ugly win i say great effort and poise. GREAT WIN NATION!!! LETS GO RRRAAAIIIDDDEEERRRSSS!!!
by EASTBAY RAIDERLOVE on Nov 28, 2011 9:11 AM PST reply actions
Hoping we get healthy ASAP... Bush should get us through the Dolphins but,
let’s pray we have McFadden, Moore, and Ford for Green Bay!!!
Every man for himself...
Ugly is a bit harsh, in fact, the game was beautiful to those who love defense first and foremost.
I’d call the game homely.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
A plague of lice on all Raiderphobes
Mike Martz strikes again
Bush had more carries than Forte and Barber combined. Why not just wear a shirt that says “fire me”.
C. Hanie 5/50yds 10yd ave
Raiders 27/73yds 2.7yd ave
da Bears 27/172yds 6.4yd ave
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Nov 28, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Those Stats Say Your Right...Glad They Didn't Run More Often....
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Nov 28, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Not really, 6 of those 27 rushes accounted for half their rushig yards. They were either losing yards, barely making it back to the LOS
or only getting 2 or 3 on most of their rushing plays. When we eliminate the the rare breaker and contain the QB we will go from 25 rush defense to the mid-teens or better.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
A plague of lice on all Raiderphobes
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 28, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Watch Hues post game conference. It really provided some nice insight into this team, etc. You have to read between the lines a bit, but worth your time.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Nov 28, 2011 10:26 AM PST via mobile reply actions
definitely
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
To win a game after being out gained overall in yards,
pushed around on both lines and having your three most dynamic offensive players hurt is a truly impressive and exciting win.
The Bears even with Caleb Haine are a force to be reckoned with and we did.
It may not have been pretty and it probably aged me in dog years, but after all the dust settled it was very satisfying and I congratulate the Raiders for a gritty, tough performance against a formidable opponent.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
It was a good game
I thought Chicagos D was very impressive. They did a lot of bending but no breaking. Very stingy out there. With a good offense, that team can go all the way. Our special teams were awesome out there too. I think it was ugly if you expected offense. I didn’t think we were going to run very well against them. I’m surprised at how well we passed against them at times. Yards came in bunches, then got shut down. More impressive was how well the D for the Raiders played. Despite a few big plays, I feel they shut down the run effectively. Need to work on stopping the QB from running so much though. Good game plan and well executed. Hope the D continues to improve.
by lakers007raiders on Nov 28, 2011 11:20 AM PST reply actions
No ugly "W"s
Long time reader 1st post.. A win is a win no matter how it comes. Don’t get me wrong I would have loved a blow out but the bears are a good team with a VERY good D. If we keep this lead that is the kind of D we will see in play-offs. One thing I will say was ugly was play calling after half time. Same screen pass to open the half?! Would rather take a shot to open it up. In all GOOD WIN!! S&B all day!!
MONGUTI
by MONGUTI on Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Great game!
Nothing ugly about it. We knew they had a great defense coming in. We’re lucky to be able to kick the ball a mile.
AFC West Assassins...
ugly shmugly
only the 3 man rush by Bresnehan’s D was ugly. I will take these ugly wins over the ugly last minute losses of the past few years.Good teams find a way to win and the team is doing just that. They are building towards a good run. They are becoming the team no one wants to play.
As for the penalties , I find it amazing that after 20 years of trying to eliminate penalties Hue calls someone from the league out on the carpet and suddenly nothing?…I feel strongly that the media decides who gets penalties. I offer as proof the Suh stomping. Here is the media calling for suspensions saying there is no place for it asking for 2 weeks now are the lions dirty? Meanwhile I have been watching Siragusa drive QBS (Rich Gannon ) into the turf, or any Pittsburgh LB or Raven or New England take full advantage give the extra shot to the head etc for years with nothing happening to them or Bubba Paris leg whip defensive linemen with out so mush as a flag. I hope that the vendetta subsides with Hues calling out of the officials and with the unfortunate passing of coach. I cant wait to see a healthy team. I think with a healthy solid team we stack up to anyone in the AFC if the boys come to play….
GO RAIDERS
by Canadian Raider on Nov 28, 2011 2:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's true we reduced costly penalties; however, we still had very costly ones to take us out of the red zone
and constantly put us in third and long on offense. Thank God for Janikowski’s perfect outing, and Lechler’s amazing punts and the special teams coverage.
It was maddening for that game to go down to the wire, when we handled them most of the game. The inability to get seven points instead of three six times will normally cost you a win.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
It was ugly but i felt more confident that they were going to win the game late in the fourth as opposed to the other victories. EVERY EFFING WIN THIS YEAR GAVE THEIR OPPONENT A CHANCE TO TAKE THE LEAD WITH VIRTUALLY THE LAST DRIVE OF THE GAME, INCLUDING THIS ONE. However, it felt that this team was a little more poised on their executions… probably from the experience of the amount of times they have put themselves in this predicament. 3 straight wins, another game under their belts with one another…a w in Miami will only increase their confidence. A W against the Packers would be a difficult task but man, wouldn’t that be awesome.
Tell you what I find ugly
Every fucking game, the announcers, “The Raider are the most penalized team blah blah blah…” Even when we have less than the other team.
Not, “The Raiders have overcome adversity in the form of team founder…” or “The Raiders have had to contend with a multitude of injuries this year…”
Nope, the penalties thing every time.
They also ALWAYS ONLY focus their cameras on frightening-looking characters in the stands ...
NEVER, EVER will they attempt to show a nice, normal looking family in the stands at the game in Oakland, even though I’ve seen 1000’s of ‘em over the years, and they do just that in most other games I watch at least once during the game. They clearly want to make it look like every Raider fan either wears a crazy-looking costume, or looks like they’re out on parole (or both).
I mean don’t get me wrong, I love all the freaks in the Nation, but to me it’s really obvious that the Networks are out to portray the Nation as … I dunno … as ‘unwholesome’ as possible, and like the OACC is a truly dangerous place you wouldn’t want to bring your family to. I mean, sure … it ain’t the white-bread crowd you see in Indy or St. Louis or Arizona, but it ain’t any worse than the rest of the blue-collar stadiums around the league, esp. the other older ones.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 29, 2011 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
This is how it ought to be.
If you were televising a football game, who would you rather show to your home viewer: A normal-looking person much like the people they are watching the game with in their house,
OR
A wild bunch of rowdy fans dressed up in facepaint and homemade gear? Let’s leave the Raiders out of this for a second. If you were watching a Vikings game, would you want to see Random Vikings Fan or would you want to see that one dude dressed as an actual Viking? When I watched Broncos games in years past, I always looked for Barrel Man. When I watch a Raider game, I expect to see Violator, Raider Rilla, Darth Raider, and all the rest. The networks oblige, because it is a better TV show and football to the networks is just another TV show.
If the NFL wants to make us the villain of the league, I say it’s a good thing. The recent sellouts show that the team isn’t suffering from attendance issues because of reputation, it’s suffered because the team has been awful and now that they aren’t, people want to see the product. The only thing a villainous reputation will do is make us more attractive to new fans and sell a lot of merchandise, like what happened with Hulk Hogan when he joined the nWo.
We can be as rowdy and bad as we wanna be, so long as the violence is restricted to the field and we drop the Atomic Leg-drop on the rest of the league.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
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