Rolando McClain's Poor Judgment Likely Won't Keep Him From Field This Season
by Rich Langford on Dec 1, 2011 10:31 PM PST
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Rolando McClain is guilty of using horrible judgment. There is no denying that. To what degree, we can't be as certain.
The degree to which McClain was a bonehead, combined with the ability of his legal team, and his attitude going forward, will greatly affect his future with the Raiders. This is not going to be a speedy trial.
What We Know
McClain was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor assault, menacing, reckless endangerment and firing a gun inside the city limits. According to a statement released by Lt. John Crouch of the Decatur Police Department, it is alleged that Ro held a gun beside a man’s head during an altercation and the man begged him not to shoot.
Not shockingly, McClain's attorney Billy C. Burney II has a different side to the story, "Mr. McClain asserts his innocence. We are confident that Mr. McClain will be cleared of all charges."
A transcript of the 9-1-1 call aligns with the accusation of a shot being fired from close range. The caller was from a neighboring house and too far away to ID a specific person. No weapon has been found.
Rolando is currently free on a $2,000 bond.
Possible Suspension
There does not appear to be any clear cut evidence at this point. Any criminal charges that Ro faces likely won't be until after the season, and given that they are all misdemeanors, and Ro is likely going to receive some excellent legal counsel, I expect his sentence, if any, will be probation, community service etc.. *Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Now, Roger Goodell certainly doesn't need guilty verdicts to suspend players. He can toss down suspension under the umbrella of "violating the league’s personal-conduct policy" for essentially anything he wants, and without any adherence to precedence.
For instance, he suspended Ben Roethlisberger for six games after Ben was accused of sexually assaulting a woman in Georgia. That suspension was later reduced to four games. Big Ben was the first, and I believe only player, to be suspended even though he was not arrested, charged or convicted of a crime.
However, that was the second similar charge against Ben, and Goodell is not keen on repeat offenses. This is the first incident that McClain has been involved in as a pro that could be construed as him violating the personal conduct policy.
There is no way Goodell is going to let this slide without taking some kind of action. This picture sure as hell didn't help his cause with the league.
via p.twimg.com
Given that this is Ro's first run in with the conduct policy, my guess is that Goodell will let the legal process run its course, and wait for more information to come to light, which would mean that any suspension likely wouldn't be issued until next year.
As far as I know. I can tell you we understand and know exactly what's going on, and we feel very comfortable with our information and we don't have any further comment at this time.
Jerry Springer's Final Thought
I'm not going to believe anything anyone says. After an incident like this, it is very likely that both sides are embellishing the story in a way that suits them.
If a person was assaulted by a group of people that included Rolando McClain then it would be potentially financially beneficial for them to say McClain did something that caused "pain and suffering."
That doesn't mean they are lying, it just means I am not going to blindly believe it.
I will also say that I certainly don't want to believe it. Rolando has earned my respect on the field this year. He has been playing solid football while playing through a high ankle sprain, and this defense is way better when he is on the field.
In the two games he has not started since he arrived the Raiders have given up 299 yards rushing to the Broncos (this season) and 234 to the Jaguars (last season).
Guilty of these charges or not though, Rolando clearly needs to start making some choices in his life. His future in the league depends on it. If he wants to be great, then he needs to fully commit to football. That means practicing hard, and that means staying away from situations like this.
As much as I have admired his toughness on the field and his willingness to play through pain, I have never been sold on his drive to make himself better on non-game days. This incident certainly doesn't help dissuade me from that thought.
I am certainly open to him continuing being a Raider. He can learn from these mistakes, and be the kind of professional we'd all thought and hoped he'd be. Ray Lewis was in a similar situation, that had far more tragic results, and by all appearances he has altered his decision making to avoid similar kinds of problems.
However, I am skeptical that Ro' has learned his lesson. Ray Lewis had the threat of serious jail time to help aide him in the process of maturing into a professional.
My fear is that Ro' is the kind of entitled stubborn athlete that will continue to make poor choices because he believes he is good enough to succeed through them.
Rock Cartwright summed this up when asked at some point during the happenings of the day. Here is Rock, quoted from The Associated Press:
All you can do is tell them things, try to give them help, but if they don’t want to be helped, then they won’t be helped. Once he gets back, I’ll try to put a bug in his ear and see what’s going on.
Rolando strikes me as the kind of guy that doesn't want to be helped because he doesn't feel he needs it. I imagine Rock has a similar sentiment, or he wouldn't have phrased his comment that way.
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I think it's just a ploy...
For the dude to sue Rolando later on! Everything comes out! Soon enough we’ll hopefully find out it was all bullshit! Good read Rich!
Everything about this story, your piece above, Rock's comments, and my own observations of our MLB on the field
is congruent. Ro is a hardcase and must be a real pain in the ass to coach.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
Yep, talk about false advertising. Not what I expected at all when they drafted him.
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
by Rich Langford on Dec 1, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
Wow...
Rolando was a 3-4 middle linebacker in college. If he doesn’t live up to your expectations, maybe he’s better suited for a different system. I personally think hes done a great job playing the middle on a horribly coached and schemed defense. We are super predictable and our linebacker coach his two years here has been a joke. What, did you expect him to make up for the fact that until curry came, he is the only fucking real linebacker out there? He can’t do it all by himself. Sure he over pursues on cutbacks and bites on playaction sometimes. But damn, you really expect him to come in and make up for the glaring deficiencies stacked against him? I really can’t believe that you and Sons are hardcore hating on this guy. Didn’t we go 8-8 with him as a rookie? Aren’t we poised to end up with a record much better than that this year? Weren’t we one of the worst teams in football 8 years running before that? I dont know what kind of expectations you guys have, but I cant think of very many young middle linebackers who are better than him, or that i would rather have instead. So hes a quieter guy whos not screaming all the time? He still runs the D great. Are you guys ravens fans in disguise and just comparing him to Ray Lewis? Cause yeah, compared to Ray Lewis he sucks and is hard to coach.
Maybe you guys would never hold a gun to someones head, and that is really turning you off. But it sounds like you didn’t like him before that. I personally can think of some situations where holding a gun to someones head might me the right course of action.
Yay lets trade Rolando…. and see how quickly we return to being a laughingstock…
This really makes me not even wanna read this blog anymore…bunch of sick pansies.
I Agree:
It has taken me a day to absorb this situation.
If someone was harassing my family and I’d just burried my grandfather I would probably want to do what Ro did. Beat his ass then send him a VERY clear message. Would I? Probably not, but I am not 22 years old. I know what the younger me would have done and it would have been close.
Personally, I want to hear about this 23 year old Sophomore’s record of harassment.
As far as his play on the field, 0-2 without him and he plays through pain. He has stated that he wants to be the next great Raider and he has done nothing on the field to show me otherwise.
We are the Raider Nation and IMO we should be throwing bricks at the “victim” not one of out own. Especially since the story has only been told on One side.
Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...
- J Kerouac
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 2, 2011 6:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
amen, brotha!
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Sorry your hero is not worshiped as you deem he should be. But there is good reason for that ...
We give up over 4.3 yards per rushing attempt on average and have the 27th rushing defense in the league. Those are the metrics. My plob (j-man’s word) with McClain is his contribution to these dismal stats. Watching games and film, he is often late to the play (ranked 45th LB with 40 solo tackles and 2 sacks) due to both his difficulty shedding blocks
and his apparent lack of instinct for where the ball is going. When I least like him though is when he lopes after runners who have broken loose as though it’s someone elses responsibility to make the tackle.
As for speculation about my personal feelings about the man, I resent his hurting the team but have posted both here and on the initial post that his actions (taken in isolation, i.e. his actions without the corrosive effect on the Raiders) are understandable given the circumstances as far as I know them.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Go ahead and mosey on over to the raider blog
Where they think he has played like a top ten pick. Let me know where that is. I’ll be waiting.
re your ridiculous “sick pansies” comment -sorry that I take offense to gunplay. Keep it real, internet g
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2011 9:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
McClain appears to me as a guy who keeps to himself most of the time.
He doesn’t appear to be a “me, me, me” type of person, but nor does he appear to be a team player. He stays away from the media and avoids being interviewed, he seems like a guy who could care less what happens in just about any predicament. That’s my opinion, I just hope the guy can get his shit straight.
He's Prolley Media Shy For A Reason...The Few Thangs That Happened To Him In Life Have Been Blown Out Of Prortion!!
His health issues were made to be way worse than anything realistic…His altercation with the school mate making claims for $$$ in the car incident and shots being fired at his vehicle have been used to tarnish his name and accomplishments…It prolley already has cost him allot of $$$ sliding to us @ #8…I understand the resentment but this will only add to it…Fuel for those “Mediot” eternal flames of hell!!
In that smiling Pic that’s what’s coming across in my perception…It was a damn “Mediot” who was invited to the scene of his arrest to cover this incident with camera in hand…Like a foolish kid Ro tilted his head and made that exaggerated grin so as to say “Take A Good Look Media Bitch”!!..Well they did and they posted it everywhere..Now on top of everything else he has created another “PR” problem due to that foolish pic that will be used to present a far different attitude than what I perceive this to be…
Than add in the mug shot of his friend in jail trying to look the part of the Tough guy!!…Right away they put themselves on the wrong end of this and by the time we get to see the complaining party they will be clean and presentable as per his authorities manipulation of this story…Ro has to get it threw his thick scull that that’s how this game is played NOT like on that Grid Iron where you get to line up again on the next play and take some bitches head off!!!..
Now I’m one to talk…Been plagued by this foolishness far too many time in my own life too…Just that along with all this grey has come a little more understanding and calculating…We don’t all have that at 22 and some of us don’t get it til very late!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Also The Size Of These Men Will Be Played Up To The Max...
2 very short officers are seen in this Pic as if Ro is 6’9 instead of 6’3"…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
There's NO Evidence Of Any Sort Of Struggle Or Resistance Here...These Officers Appear Very Calm!!!
Cuffing is customary policy when a suspect is arrested….There’s no ethnic accusation either sense a black officer is also present…Things like this are calculated by the departments and News Media prior to an arrest being made…They ask..“What will look best in print”…Than they follow that procedure…They have the power of viewer manipulation this way rather than the defendants…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
His stupid smile is what is bothersome about this picture.
I don’t care why he’s smiling, it just looks bad and/or immature. He either looks like he is laughing in the face of the law like “ha ha you’re never going to pin this on me” or looks like he doesn’t care about what they said he did “ha ha that guy deserved what he got”.
Either way, it looks bad. I don’t care who took the picture or who arrested him. When you’re getting arrested act calm, don’t resist, and try to be as low key as possible.
Well You Of Course Are Aware That The Press Is Called In/Invited To Such processes..
Right??…So it does matter who’s taking that pic!!….
That the police than stage things with the press in the most appropriate way viewed by the public as they control the viewer perceptions of everything…
Now I could add some speculations here…But it’s only speculation…
Know as the press does that Ro doesn’t like them does one reporter call out for a smile and in return get this sarcastic response that he can jump on as prof that Ro’s a bad dude???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
If you were getting arrested
would you smile as they were snapping photos of you? I mean if it was me, they could ask me to do it all they liked and I still wouldn’t. It looks like an “F You” smile which comes off as childish. I don’t care if he felt that way, act like you’re going to prison.
As far as it being the press, I don’t think they collectively act as one. I would imagine reporters from Alabama covering a crime with an athlete aren’t the same as the guys doing postgame interviews for the Raiders. Also, the police have no reason to paint him negatively. If you’re saying the police are staging this because the press doesn’t like Ro, I have a hard time buying that.
The Police Always Check Their Image When A Public Figure In Involved...
Thus the selection of a black man involved with the arrest so as not to appear racist…Maybe smallish men to appear outmatched like their really doing a job here???..Each one will have what they feel is important to convey to the public eye about themselves…It doesn’t have to be something conveyed against the player in this case…Just the image of themselves that they want the public to view…
Than the press…ANY press…Will take a full series of shots of the proceedings…Non of which do we get to see except what paints the picture that they desire to paint in the public eye…In this case one that shows complete disregard for the law or rightness or respect or any number of things that we as viewers will see/interpret with our minds…That’s just a reality of life…NOT a conspiracy…Just a typical practice…Than all the other outside news agencies will pick up on the storyline presented and run with it because that’s what they do and it’s easy and it works…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
We Saw Suh !!
Suh was guilty on national television of a haines offense . He stomped a mans arm in a way that could have ended that mans career. The entire Nation saw it, really we all saw it, correct. No question about that guilt folks, 25 million people saw the offense and he was guilty.
DID WE SEE ROLADO COMITT A CRIME ? HELL NO!
Lets get back to football and beat the fins
by blacknben on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That tape is open for interpretation and even if that interpretation weighs against Suh, it certainly doesn't warrant what you suggest
Being ejected and being suspended 2 games is punishment enough. Anything harsher than that is cruel and unusual punishment and those craving more punishment than that deserve to be stomped on the arm and groin.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
Say What ?
I did not suggest anything harsher for Suh, I said he is guilty, Rolando is accused and charged, that is not guilty yet ! He will get what he deserves, not tonight though.
Excuse me, blacknben, I misread you and reacted against the leagues overzealous trend to suspend players
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions
That picture troubles me.
It does. And what I fear for him, is that he will not get it.
This Thug attitude that has come about for mostly Black Players in the NFL is something that teams need to let these kids – this ain’t how a man acts – know that they will get reprimanded, and that they will get jailed if they take it too far.
I am hoping this story is fake – but what I fear is that If in fact Rolando has one of those “Top of the world” complexes that in the future, it WILL get worse.
For a Team Captain to say something like that, is troubling. That’s locker room presence there, and I would love for more input from players in the locker room concerning his actions.
Rich, I agree with you. And if the facts does come out that everything said IS true, then we have a serious problem – having a guy who was a few inches away of taking a human life is not the kind of presence that I want on this team, and something that the person himself needs to SERIOUSLY analyze about his way of life.
Why is it always the Black athlete that is making a whole lot of money?
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 1, 2011 10:56 PM PST reply actions
Far as The last Comment you made!!!
Upbringing and lifestyle !!! He’s a country kid, who all of sudden, is in the big city !! Same shit for JaFatass !!! Millions in their pockets, and don’t know how to act !!! But check this out !!! D-mac signed, and guess who came with him ??? His mother !!! Some understand, some don’t !!!
well now, you went there
what the fuck do you even mean by that last sentence? Get that shit outta here, it’s 2012 buddy.
by Devyn on Dec 2, 2011 2:02 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Who Was Romo???...Was That White Boy Ever Involved In Anything Wrong???
Mark Gastineau..Remember him??
Barret Robbins??…
Come’on and get it off the ethnic crap…That’s unbecoming a Raider!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
though don't forget sebas....
he has had his own difficulties with the legal system
barrett robbins sufferd from a mental illness
are you saying revolver mcclain has a mental illness
suffered from spelling correcting compulsion disorder (SCCD)
afflicts 4 of every 5 Chef fans
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Bi-Poler Disorder In The Family And The Kid Grows Up Around That...
What’s the likelihood of NOT having some emotional/mental issues…Add to the the general neighborhood and what do you have?
My mother couldn’t spell or write…Neither can I…Turns out 2 of my 4 children are ADD n Dyslexic…So Am I…Most likely also my mother…Daddy was an alcoholic…I end up being PTSD and finally went threw a treatment program with the VA and now for the most part happily dealing with all life’s little issues…But sit lingers and I would be a liar to post any different…
The bottom line reality here is that all of us to some extent are products of our own environments and pass on what we have to our children and others around us…If this wasn’t the case than no one would worry about the company you keep…Right??
Do I believe Ro to be a bad bad boy??…NO…I do NOT!!…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Ro wouldn't like that. Bad to the bone is the image and your not recognizing that is an aggressive act of insensitiviy
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Ya Know Your Right About That??....I'm Of That Persuasion Myself...
It’s growing up feeling unprotected and realizing that you need to be able to protect yourself without relying on the schools or police or family or church/god…So you over exaggerate yourself as bigger and stronger by becoming more and more aggressive to anything threatening…Than as time passes threw the weight room and martial arts/boxing and so forth you actually become that being you think you need to be..I’m now the biggest in my family at 5’10 195#‘s and solid when around the gym…I’m also known as the “Black Sheep” too…But they leave my fuckin ass alone too and that’s what I wanted!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Sounds familiar. My neighborhood was tough, cruel in some respects - older kids routinely beat up younger
ones because they could. One can either set one’s will to never allow it to happen to them again or remain the victim and ward of the state.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
What's Really Strange Is Life Here In Cambodia...
This country is suffering from so many disorders as a result of Pho Poht and his dreadful tactics but they don’t even know it…The “Killing Fields” live on in their hearts and minds…
So that issue with the kids…Boys mostly but also in the girls is very very prominent here…Rudely so…And also shown with small animals as well…Just a type of brutality to friends and family and pets…At total contrast to life across the border in Thailand although it’s the same people…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Sometimes I think that to really be a christian one has to be stronger and tougher than the next person
that way when one turns the other cheek one knows his motive is good and not out of fear or some other ignoble motive.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Now That One Is Really Tough!!...I Quite Simply Can't Do That!!
But I saw another perception of this that makes some sense to me and is something I can do…
That the “Turning Of The Cheek” is a symbolic reference to “Not Retaliating In Kind”….
So if someone hits you in the cheek so to speak the 2nd one you offer them is what you could have taken away but don’t…So in effect you offer them the other also??
Like for Ro…If he slapped the shit out of that punk and put the gun to his head…That’s a fairly significant “Slap of the cheek”…If a Christen that punks offers him the other also by not retaliating in likeness with the litigation…If he process to take all he can take he has in effect withheld the other cheek…
This makes much more sense to me and complies with other passages saying pay evil to evil to none and love your enemy as yourself…
Not sure you’ll agree but I rather liked it when I read it…Just don’t remember where at the moment of would post the source…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
You Suffer A Loss Twice:
1st you suffer the slap
2nd you suffer the loss of what you could gain as compensation
"Tebowphobe"!!!
It's difficult to have a pure intention. So with "turn the other cheek" one can only be certain of
their motive for responding that way if they have the power to take “an eye for an eye” and decline to do so. In your scenario, the punk might not press charges or sue out of fear of retaliation or some other motive than obedience to / love of God.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 3, 2011 5:46 AM PST up reply actions
True...Maybe Not A Very Good Example???..Aplication??
Just that it’s not to be taken just as a literal reference to exposing your cheeks to further abuse…Like in the movies where some bad ass delivers blow after blow on some dude trying to prove his faith…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
indubitably
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 3, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
The reason WHY I asked this
is because that’s mostly in my 22 year old life living as a Black college student in New York City, this is what I have seen – year in, year out. Almost every single year, something like this comes up. EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
So, don’t assume that I am trying to be racist of the sort. I’m just tired of black athletes making themselves another statistic.
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 2, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Sure, there are exceptions,
But when you think of NFL and Police, who comes to mind? Ask yourself this.
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 2, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Well For Me It's Never About Race...The One's I Posted Came To Mind Very Quickly..
I didn’t have to search for them…If I did it would prolley be split very similar to the %s of players from each race I assume with the influence of how many come from poor backgrounds too…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
We don't have to guess
http://www.tidesport.org/RGRC/2010/2010%20NFL%20Racial%20and%20Gender%20Report%20Card.pdf
During the NFL’s 2009 season, the percentage of African-American players remained at 67 percent. The all-time high for African-American players was in 2003 at 69 percent. The percentage of white players in 2009 decreased by one percentage point from 31 to 30 percent. The percentage of Latinos and Asians remained at 1 and 2 percent, respectively. Of all the professional leagues in the United States, the NFL continues to have the smallest percentage of international players at 2 percent in 2009 (no change from 2007 or 2008).
The SD Trib maintains an ongoing record of NFL arrests: http://www.signonsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/
By my count, 20 of the last 200 NFL players arrested were NOT black. 90% of the arrests accounted for by black players compared to the 67% player share. Nearly all of the non-black players arrested were arrested for alcohol or drug violations. Nearly all the violent crimes (DV/assault/battery/gun charges) were accounted for by black players.
I’m sorry, it ain’t PC. Its the facts.
Not hard to fix, one group needs to be more violent the other needs to increase drug & alcohol consumption
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
You're always thinking of solutions...
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
OK...There It Is In "Black-n-White" (Pun)....
As I posted “with the influence of how many come from poor backgrounds too” because I realize that childhood influences reflect upon young adult life and beyond….NOT because of their nationality!!!…And this is the thing that really needs to be understood here…If one of these children were to have been taken out of that environment and raised in a totally different much more healthy environment apart from all the negative influences they most likely would never develop the same issues!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
No question. It's really not about race but about culture and hope. A strong family can instill everything needed
even in the midst of a ghetto. I great book to read that drives this home is Jack Tatum’s autobiography They Call Me Assassin. He grew up in two tough neighborhoods – first in the south before transplanting to the NE – but kept focused on sports and took his parents advice to heart. A great human being and great football player who channeled any and all aggression into football – a very pure soul.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
I don't care what "you've" seen year in, year out.
You’re unfairly grouping people together.
Why can this country still not look at people for what they do individually instead of where they’re from or the color of their skin?
He's black and he's tired of black athletes making themselves look bad
I don’t know what problem you could have with that.
Thuggish, stupid shit like this just fuels stereotypes. The problem isn’t people pointing it out. The problem is the people who do it.
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Just from The Mug Shots alone !!!!
I don’t like what I see !!! It’s a “I don’t ”CARE ATTITUDE" look, IMO !!! The Picture while being cuffed & put in the police car depicts this attitude even more !!! The Mug Shot, looks more like a Thug Shot, on one !!! Man, Roe please head to the nearest Barber shop, and spend some money of a cut & shave !!! Hopefully it was just alcohol, and nothing else !!! When Heir Goodell see’s these pic’s I bet BIG MONEY, I don’t have, He will be tested !!!
This sucks
Raider stereotype, confirmed. Knucklehead mistake by a young player, confirmed. Contending team hurt by bone headed mistake of a player, confirmed. In the end, we all have to wait and see how this plays out. No doubt this is a PR nightmare. It is also a sad situation if the allegations are true or false. At this point, the team must move on. It will hurt, but I don’t think he should play again this year unless it comes out that he was innocent. It is a very serious allegation, and if true, he deserves some jail time. Suspensions and the game are all secondary to this young man’s life now. He made a huge mistake for allowing himself to be in this dreadful situation. It is very unfortunate, but the truth will come out. He’s young, and obviously he’s done a very stupid thing. Not just for the team, but for himself. For this season, the Raiders must move on. As a fan, I am sickened by young players making idiot decisions. He is a huge piece to the team, even if his stats don’t show it. He is now a huge distraction and should not be let on that field. This really, really sucks for both McClain and the Raiders. What a shitty day.
by lakers007raiders on Dec 1, 2011 11:18 PM PST reply actions
I know this is a truism but here goes: we should always trade our 1st round pick for proven veteran pro bowler
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
At one point in the season I would disagree with your post.
But at this point, couldn’t agree more. Even our best 1st round pick in the past 7-10 years is always freaking injured is getting frustrating. Just smh.
Ive said the same thing here many times
usually to the heated objection of others here, but the proof is in the pudding.
This makes me wish we’d drafted Mark Herzlich even more.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
This may seem selfish,
but with Blackcock as our backup MLB. I hope Ro’s punishment (whatever it is) comes after the season.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
he won't be going to trial anytime soon.
on the otherhand the charges may be dropped (doubtful). lawyers have a way of dragging things out for a long time. other than an arraignment which maybe an attorney can attend without McClain’s presence there will be no court for several months.
on the other hand… what the nfl will /can do is another subject.
if these really end up being misdemeanor charges (note to self - if considering threatening someone with a gun - do it in alabama)
he’ll probably reach some plea bargain for an even lesser misdemeanor, disturbing the peace, third degree assault, informal probation, no jail, big fine, MAYBE some community service
especially if he reaches a civil settlement and the victim’s memory gets hazy
Mental game
I’m a huge believer in the NFL being a mental sport. Even if you have the physical tools, doesn’t always mean you can succeed. Those that do, are mentally strong. Ro is a massive distraction right now. If the Defensive gets distracted, the on field repercussions will be dire. I really think, and trust me I hate saying this, we need to move on without Ro for the rest of the year. He’s obviously not very strong mentally wise, as seen by his actions over the last few years and the altercations he’s involved with. I like him as a player, I think he was improving, and I believe he was running our D well. However, I fear now he isn’t even going to be focused on the game but more on the incident and the players around him. I fear the D will not trust him anymore, despite what they say on the contrary. He needs to be benched. This was a huge mistake and could spell doom for the playoff chase, but it needs to be done. Blackstock needs to step up his game with Curry’s help. No way around it. I hate distractions. Example, my Lakers last year and during the Shaq/ Kobe feud. I believe they left some championships out there because of distractions to an otherwise cohesive unit. In football, look at Brett Favres play last year, or Orton’s this year with Tebow mania. It presents an uncomfortable situation for the team. It will suck, but it is for the best IMO if he sits this season out. Exception, if it is all proven that the allegations are false.
by lakers007raiders on Dec 2, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
I Totally Disagree...This Team Will Ralley Around Him In Support As Long As He Continues To Do His Job!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Could work
If they like him. If he is innocent, the answer is of course yes. However, do you think Seymour doesn’t want to beat the shit out of this young kid right now? It was a stupid mistake to even be in that situation. If the allegations are true, it is worse than when Plaxico shot himself in the foot. Irresponsible and detrimental to the team. Let him think about this, at least for the rest of the season. If we make playoffs, reevaluate his playing time then.
by lakers007raiders on Dec 3, 2011 1:00 AM PST up reply actions
Responsibility
He didn’t have to let it escalate to the extreme that he did. Even if he is innocent, he was still involved with the situation. I’m not saying he did or didn’t do what they said, I’m saying it was his responsibility to go to the funeral, pay his respects, and get back to Oakland. Few justifications exist where he should have even been involved with this sordid affair. He is a public figure, like it or not. Rothlesberger was accused too, never charged. He was suspended 4 games (or was it 6) for being involved in the situation. These guys represent the NFL, they all should be above it. Obviously, not everyone is. They get paid lots of money to play a game, it really is a special privilege to play in the NFL. If it’s proven he had nothing to do with it at all, then of course you should not punish him as severely. What message does it send if he isn’t held accountable for being involved with this mess? And he still has huge explaining to do to Hue and the Raider organization, let alone the police and detectives. There are 5 games left, most of us on this site are thinking of the team, understandable. However given the season, the injuries, and now this, the season is in trouble. The guys either rally around this situation and persevere or it falls apart. I think they can overcome this without Ro, let him work out the legal issues. Worry about suspensions or lack of after. I just think he’s a distraction right now and an unnecessary head ache the team does not need now.
by lakers007raiders on Dec 3, 2011 5:47 AM PST up reply actions
Very true
Raiders should have addressed the issue, but maybe they saw something we didn’t. I don’t know. Blackstock needs to step up, maybe next year our team gets healthy or we get a solid backup/ starter. Ugggh, Blackstock.
by lakers007raiders on Dec 3, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
I dont doubt that ro can maintain his arguably mediocre to average level
Regardless of these off field issues
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2011 10:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Night and day
That is the difference between Blackstock and Ro. Regardless of his average ability, he knows the system far better. When he was out, the team looked lost out there. His pass coverage wasn’t terrible, he deflected a lot of QB passes over the middle. His tackling was terrible and will not be missed, but for his mediocrity he was very important to the defense out there. Either way, I don’t think he should play again. Punishment of some kind should be enforced.
by lakers007raiders on Dec 3, 2011 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
IMHO
This news troubles me greatly not just as a Raider fan but as a human being. Here is my possible solution for things like this to be avoided. We first have to keep in mind that many of these young men enter the NFL at a very young age and come from less then ideal situations. I will never be able to own a team but if I did and made a huge monetary investment in a young player I would hire a life coach (handler) that basically follows their every move and lends advice and guide them in the right direction. Some of these young men just don’t know how to act like the professionals they are expected to be. Someone needs to constantly stay in their ear reminding them they have been blessed with an ability to get themselves to a better life and they need to leave the hood behind them. It’s fine to remember where you came from but also remember you have been given a way to better yourself.
The most distrubing thing with this is it’s not just a simple fight or even a DUI. A gun was involved. Granted all alleged at this time. Even though the lack of respect for human life is startling. In the civilian world the need for violence is alarming.
One Nation under Al with Hue leading our Troops
I Have A Huge Problem With That And I'm Sure Most Players Would Also??
They compete and their life is rather edgy…Sometimes they just need to be able to unwinds a little and let that crap out…Escape it so to speak for a few and than come back committed again…Otherwise there’s a melt-down and small issues become much larger than they need to be…But having someone always following you around and in your ear will be so restrictive that there’s just no opportunity to get your head free and relieved…
Perhaps an alternative would be to have a somewhat protected escape environment for theses players during the season…Maybe the “Vikes” “Love Boat” wasn’t such a bad idea…“T-Bowne” could be the entertainment director…LoL!!!…All join hands now in the circle
"Tebowphobe"!!!
"R-n-R" Is What It's Called In The Military Environment...But Same Thing...Need To Relieve That Stress!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Being a retired Marine I understand R-n-R
Rest and relaxation for most people does not include getting shot at or shotting at others. It’s were we go to get away from that and unwind. I get blowing off steam. And firing weapons is a good way to do so at a firing range or hunting not on the streets of Decater AL. Seems to me that work for Rolando would be his R-N-R as life back home would be more stressful. By all means find a stress release hit the clubs up chase some tail something but beating people up and threatening their lives is not a way to blow off steam.
One Nation under Al with Hue leading our Troops
Agreed...But I Don't Suppose This Was Planed...Just A Situation That Developed???
Although there has been some info surface that this dude may have been involved in some way threatening Ro’s family…If so than it may have been planed to some degree and the trip home for the funeral had a little more agenda attached?
It was also reported by the alleged victim that they wanted to fight but he didn’t want to…If this was regarding the intimidation of Ro’s family that I fully understand it but there should have been a better way…If not for being 22 and instigated by his Bro’s!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
The Point Is Could You Enjoy Your R-n-R With Some Col's Aid Following You Around In Your Ear About Saving Grace???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
No it wouldn't be as enjoyable
Then again I wouldn’t get the liberty had there been transgrestions in the past. I do hear where your coming from and you have a very viable point. My point was and I could have addressed it better is not all of them need it but some do. If I was the one paying these huge amounts of money I would protect my investment.
One Nation under Al with Hue leading our Troops
clubs and tail??? seems that plenty of players have gotten into trouble
doing just that. wasn’t that many years ago that the raider’s had a star DL charged with rape, kidnap, and who knows what else. can’t remember the final outcome though the raiders released him and his career was shortlived after that (think he played one year with washington)
I agree to a point
I to would find it difficult having someone follow me everywhere. I should have been more detailed in my thought process but didn’t want make it a very long post. The asst. if you will would be around only for situations that the team or owner felt them to be required. And not a career long thing only a year or to until they get it straight.
One Nation under Al with Hue leading our Troops
revolver mcclain
though it probably wasn’t a revolver. sounds good
Great article Rich
Best perspective and covering of all basis I’ve read so far. Good job Rich. Remember, McClain is only 22-23 yrs old. Guy has some maturing to do and needs to do it fast. Amazing he’s been leading our defense the past 2 seasons.
by rob.gilman on Dec 2, 2011 12:31 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
911.."The caller was from a neighboring house" Which Also Needs Investigation...Who!!
Is there any connection to this alleged victim???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Now This...The Victim Is Identified And A Bama Basketball Player...
Rishard Tapscott #22
Profile
Class: Sophomore
Hometown: Decatur, AL
Height: 6’2
Position: guard
Tapscott, 23, said said he had several broken ribs, a concussion and is having trouble talking out of the right side of his mouth, the station reported.
"I went over there, it was basically like an ambush, like they set me up to fight, because as soon as I got there they all went outside and I was sitting in the house," Tapscott said. "That’s when they came back in the house and they were like, ‘You’re going to have to fight, come back out and fight.’ I was like ‘I ain’t fighting, I ain’t coming outside,’ and that’s when he came in the house and assaulted me," said Papscott.
"[Wednesday] night, before all the charges were pressed, I didn’t want him [McClain] to get in trouble because I look at him like a brother, as a friend. I never thought it would come to this. What goes around comes around."
"Tebowphobe"!!!
http://www.waff.com/story/16170292/alleged-victim-in-rolando-mcclain-assault-case-speaks-out
"Tebowphobe"!!!
More Info:
http://www.facebook.com/R.Tapscott22
The victim, Rishard Tapscott, 23, told police that he got into a fight with Jerradius Willingham, a 23-year-old Decatur man. Tapscott told police who had responded to the call that he crawled to his car after the fight, then McClain put a gun to his head while he was lying on the ground.
“The victim reported that he begged McClain not to shoot him,” a police news release said, “and that McClain took the gun away from his head, held it next to his ear and fired it.”
Police said Tapscott wasn’t shot but had injuries to his head and face and was bleeding from the nose and mouth when he talked to police at the scene. Tapscott, who said McClain and Willingham both hit him, drove himself to a hospital, where he was treated and released. Investigators met with Tapscott on Thursday morning and helped him obtain arrest warrants for McClain and Willingham, police said.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/01/SPMG1M783B.DTL#ixzz1fNup0mMK
"Tebowphobe"!!!
More Info: Someone from the jamac blog said the guy was harassing his family for weeks...
there IS the angle that some punk was looking for a payday, then again, why is our 22 year old 1st round draft pick brandishing a gun? if the other guy was starting something, why not get the heck out where ever he was to avoid trouble?
911 Call Transcript:
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2011/12/01/911-call-of-shooting-incident-involving-rolando-mcclain/
This is NOT good!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Now It Appears There Was A Reason For Wanting To Fight If This Punk Was Involved In Harassment???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
it doesn't make any difference.
he needs to keep clear of bad situations. not to do so is irresponsible
It Does Make A Difference!!...If There Was A Pr-existing Issue Not Just A Violent Streak!!
I’m trying to grip on why and if in a reality sense here NOT just judgements against a player…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Ro. is my favroite player and something like this hurts but also excites me.
As you can tell by my screenname i love Rolando, alabama,and the raiders. But wakeing up at 2 in the morning with a text from sbpride and seing that Ro. held a gun to someones head kind of supprised me at first. When he was at alabama coach saben said he was one of the smartest players hes ever coached. And when he was out aginst the broncos tebow killed our D in the end because no one was smart enough to know what he was doing. run or pass run or pass. Rolando is a smart guy and lost his head for a while. i think that he will have a press statement soon saying it was all blown out of proportion and everything will be back to normal with the raiders D takeing us to a super bowl led by rolando.
by BamaRaida55 on Dec 2, 2011 5:49 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hope Your Right Bro!!...I'm Holding Fast The Helm Right With Ya!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Dec 2, 2011 5:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We can tell by your skreen name and yor grammer.
Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.
-Mike Tyson
Pretty disturbing events
I know that when I was 22 that I made some really stupid decisions and it’s easy to forget that when you come across a story like this. What bothers me is the smiling in the picture like he doesn’t even care. It’s the “holier than thou” attitude among some athletes that really grinds my gears…like they are entitled to a different set of rules and should be excused of misbehavior.
Hopefully some of the players on the team can get through to the kid and help him straighten out his lifestyle and help him re-prioritize his life a bit. We need him to grow up in a hurry and realize the opportunity the team has before them right now and get his head right.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
That Smile May Have Been Coaxed By The Press???..As Per My Post Above!!
Now I could add some speculations here…But it’s only speculation…
Know as the press does that Ro doesn’t like them does one reporter call out for a smile and in return get this sarcastic response that he can jump on as prof that Ro’s a bad dude???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
They said "say cheese" and he couldn't resist?
Gimme a break man. When youre getting arrested there is one proper attitude : keep your head down and pray for it to be over. if you have the bad fortune to have media about, and if you must, say “no comment.”
Reporters yell out questions and “rolando rolando”- they don’t say “smile” like some sears photogrpher.
Your theories are running a bit far afield.. I’m concerned we may need to send martin sheen up the river after you
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2011 7:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Apocalypse Is Upon Us!!
I have been arrested and NOT just within USAirSpace and I have been prodded at times by the camera happy ass who wants a good shot…I don’t respond!!…But being a kid I could understand how that could happen…
Now what’s the alternatives here…That you believe all the good stories ever written about Ro were a farce and he’s a very very bad bad boy who has lied to one and all???…Come’on!!…I’m just NOT buying!!
So there has to be something else hear and I’m trying to discover what it could be…I began this with:
“Now I could add some speculations here…But it’s only speculation…”
Because I for one don’t chose to believe in nor be led down the path of disgrace that these “Mediot” bastards want us to travel…I just don’t buy into it…I don’t believe Hue buys into it…I don’t believe our roster buys into it…And I seriously doubt that if Mr Davis was here that he would buy into it…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
While Here Hidden In The Deep Darkness Of The Apocalypse I Be Compiling Every Shed of Evidence In This Case!!!
Than present it unaltered until we have as clear a picture as possible removed from all the emotionalism and entanglements of the press..Will I succeed??…
Prolley not but I will try non the less…He’s a Raider and has earned that much from me!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Now Posting This Public Was Some Stupid Damn "Mediot" Shit!!
3 DISPATCHER: Okay. We’ll — we won’t
14 send anybody over there to you.
15 CALLER: All right. I mean, if I –
16 you know, if you need my help with anything else
17 after that, I mean, I don’t — I just don’t want
18 them to know that I called.
19 DISPATCHER: No problem. We’ll get
20 somebody to check it out. Okay, ******?
21 CALLER: All right. I appreciate it.
They know who you are!!
14 DISPATCHER: Okay. And it was across
15 the street at 1002?
16 CALLER: 1004.
17 DISPATCHER: 1004?
18 CALLER: Yeah.</blockquote
Damn!!…This is absolute negligence on the part of the police as well as these damn disgusting "Mediot"s as they place this citizen in harms way!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Potential To Escalate To A Felony Charges??
“obstruction of justice and interfering with a police investigation” is becoming a real possibility here…
Concealing evidence in a criminal investigation…Tampering..It goes on and on!!!
Where’s that gun?..Who’s was it…Who fired it?…Where’s the swipes to answer those questions???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Shooting possums and tresspassers
When will these young, gifted, and rich kids learn?? Stay away from your ole hood. You be a super star in yo hood, but you be a super star anyway to us Rah-da fans so be cool.
You be shot at already, you dosen’t have to go to Bama to be shot at, stay in Oakland..
You should be a living in Orinda or some place where the scum don’t follow you around sucking up yo money.
You should have been morning the passing of your grandpa, not showing off your heat.
After Sunday
The best running back we face is SD’s Ryan Mathews. And neutralizing him is as easy as making him fumble or hitting him hard. Norv yanks his shit immediately if that happens.
So McClain’s suspension (If it happens) isn’t as horrendous as it might look.
Even in the playoffs it might not be terrible; the only top 15 run games are those of Houston (3) and NE (15)
I carry a weapon(s) on a daily basis.
LEGALLY. I have carried weapons for years for protection , hunting and sport . I have a model 25 Smith and Wesson .45 colt that is my “carry” gun and a 12 gauge Mossberg 500 “American Cruiser” tactical shot gun with a pistol grip handle and 20 " barrel , loaded with 8 rounds of 00 buck.
The FIRST rule of carying a firearm is this – If it clears leather you USE it. The reason it cleared the holster is that you believe your life is in danger and there are NO OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE to prevent bodily harm to yourself. You NEVER pull a weapon to scare or intimidate people – too much bad shit can happen.
The shot gun is for Grizzley and Black Bear protection when I Hike and fish in the high country , as I DON’T trust pepper spray to save my life. I named my shotgun “Dr. Pepper”
I’m not a cop or middle linebacker , I cover Oilfield sales for a major player and roam WY ,CO and UT in some remote country. The nearest Wal-Mart is 127 miles away from my house. The nearest Liquor / grocery store is 28 miles away.
I hope RO learns a lesson but I have to agree with Sons and Papa on this one – I don’t think he has form the photos I’ve seen. If he did do what he’s accused of he stuck a knife in every guy like me that RESPONSIBILY carries on a daily basis and provided little needed fodder to the anti-gun assholes. THAT would seriously piss me off.
I hope its false accusation Brothers R.F.F.R.
Bro..We May Have Traveled Some Of The Same Territory??
For 7 seasons I drove truck 48 states…7’ barrel 44 Mag Cattleman Revolver was with me at all times…Liqueur loads out of Allan Park Michigan (Detroit) and swinging/boxed beef from Monfort/IBP and electronics out of Newark NJ and such…High Hijack freight and that was exciting to me…I never ever pulled that weapon but I did sleep with it across my chest exposed in the drives seat for short naps…I quit drive when they tole me it was now a felony to have a weapon in my truck but the punks can still carry??..“BS” so I got off the road…
I no longer carry any weapons of any kind…I’m now a target if I do in my own country and in some real deep shit if international…But I do reserve the right to do so if I return…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I know a gun safety instructor who on day one give the same lesson
He gives the trainee’s a can of shaving cream and tells them to spray some in there hand. He stands there, in silence for a minute, and then says. “OK, now I want eveyone to put the shaving cream back in the canister.” The lesson is about pulling a weapon out of a holster, once it’s out, there is NO going back.
john dickenson on twitter says
mcclain attorney is claiming his innocence and did not fire the weapon…
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Honestly... ive been charged with assault once and it was me pressing my drill sergeant hat against
a trainees face. So I cant really form an opinion unless I hear his side first.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Thought that was legal
As long as you don’t physically touch them with your hands? My TI use to bring his hat to my face when he got pissed. Then again, they never touched me with it. I never saw anyone in bootcamp get touched with it. Maybe your right, disregard.
by lakers007raiders on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
It's A Felony To Stock Or Intimidate In Cali...
To make anyone feel threatened whether you ever tough them or not…If they say they fear for their lives than you in deep shit…I found that out the hard way…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Tbh if Ro doesn't get suspended or charged
I don’t really give a shit
"I DO THIS" - Carmelo Anthony
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ONE NATION UNDER AL
Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
by Ozraider on Dec 2, 2011 8:11 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yup
Other than if he fired the gun and killed dude he would be on “Death Row”…
by Mallard Davis on Dec 2, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
"I DO THIS" - Carmelo Anthony
Follow @MattyFnRaider
ONE NATION UNDER AL
Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
Misstymeaner Ro?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
OK, ok here's a question, and if anyone knows please fill me in...
First off, I am gonna support Rolando until there is proof otherwise. There are many holes in these accusations, and I can tell all of you, from experience, law in the south (I lived for 13years in Texas, and now going on 5 here in New Orleans), is a little different here. There is alot of what I call “Brother in-law” justice, by which I mean it’s not necessarily whether you commited a crime or not, but who ya know, who you are, who your family is and connected to, and whose neighborhood or juristiction your in, etc. etc. Given how immediate and damning a statement the Decatur PD released is eveidence of such shanagens, someone, in the local legal system, may not like rolando, his family, his success, etc. etc.
That being said……
For instance lets say Rolando is guilty of a crime which prevents him from playing, because of jail time, league suspension, etc. etc. Does anyone think there is verbage in his contract that would void his 23million garunteed? I would puke all over the place if another player was able to rob this organization
NFL players are humans too. I’m not gonna condone the alleged acts, but I’d rather see realistic depictions of players than Tim Tebow praying to Baby Jesus
I don't normally read stats, but when I do, the names Detweiller, Eric or Don are involved.
Stay educated, my friends
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 2, 2011 8:48 AM PST reply actions
Excellent article, Rich.
“You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!”
You lay it out and highlight the salient points of this thing with the skill of a trial lawyer.
What we must remember is that this is a very young kid, very pumped on testosterone, and therein, very given to mistakes such as these. We must also remember that they remain allegations, and somewhere between what has been hashed out and printed and what we tend to think lies the truth.
I’m a little disconcerted that so many of us will be so quick to turn our backs on this kid. We can’t forget that despite any off the field situations he has contributed and helped this defense hit a stride at a point we really need it to, and we’d be properly fucked without him on the team.
I also know, that no young player—especially one the caliber and with the notoriety of a seventh overall pick—will seek help and guidance from any veteran 100% without completely maturing to a level beyond that with which he entered this league. Ray Lewis has been mentioned above; let’s hope whatever happened and whatever comes out of it serves as a hard lesson to the young McClain, who will internalize it and grow beyond this incident.
I’ll reserve judgment for now until we know for sure what took place and what didn’t. Until then, I’m grateful it doesn’t mean we’ll have to go without the kid who’s helping transform our defense as we speak.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
And Perhaps He's Focused And Determined This Week In His Pursuit of The Ball...
Be Yee warned what so ever of you be holding that “Pig” shall I destroy this day!!
Amp up Bro and show’em who you really are…All Hail “DeathRo” McClain!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
I will never hear the end of how the Raiders are “thugs” from my girlfrends dad (cowboys fan)
Thanks Ro.
by Marcos Moncivais on Dec 2, 2011 9:09 AM PST reply actions
This Sounds Too Preemted So Perhaps The Reports Of This Dude Harassing Ro's Family Are True??
“I went over there, it was basically like an ambush, like they set me up to fight,” Tapscott said, via the San Francisco Chronicle, “because as soon as I got there they all went outside and I was sitting in the house. That’s when they came back in the house and they were like, ’You’re going to have to fight, come back out and fight.’ I was like ‘I ain’t fighting, I ain’t coming outside,’ and that’s when he came in the house and assaulted me.”
"Tebowphobe"!!!
"A look back at Ro Mac’s past sheds a little light on the other nights attack and yesterdays arrest."
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
Posted if anyone wants to look/…I don’t know how true any of this is
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Anyone find it weird that
the “alleged victim” said he was shot at in his house but his verbal story to the media claims he was under his car and Ro came over to intimidate him with the gun in his face? Once again a very sad situation concerning a young athlete with a bright future
by Phantom of the Davis on Dec 2, 2011 10:25 AM PST reply actions
Obviously lives in his car ... as many do in Decatur
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Zing!
But seriously, is Decatur as bad as people are claiming? Never done much, if any, traveling in the deep south.
what? the tourism mecca that is Alabama???
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Lmfao
"I DO THIS" - Carmelo Anthony
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Spent Some Time In School In Mobil...The "Redneck Capital Of The World"!!
And they damn sure let you know it too!!…Damn proud to be “Trailer Trash”!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Thought K.C. had that honor
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
where did you see that the alleged victim said he was shot in his house?
the 911 caller said people were outside when the shot was fired
Report: Ex-Raiders QB Russell eyes return to football..."purple drank" liquid lunches " Served Daily!!
The American Press reported Thursday that Russell has interest in playing for the storied Louisiana Swashbucklers. For those of you lagging in your Swashbucklers lore, they belong to the Professional Indoor Football League, but the team refused to confirm or deny contact with JaMarcus or his agent.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Am I the only person that thought that picture was PHOTOSHOPPED?
Only to turn out that it was real?
Tuck Rule my ass!
Photoshopped
I thought so too. The whole picture looks fake.
by Mile-High-Raider on Dec 2, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
"Holly Horse Shit" BatMan!!....Tebow to be featured in NFL Magazine, Network special
The cover of the inaugural edition of the league’s official monthly publication, NFL Magazine, which hits newsstands Dec. 13, will feature Tebow instead of Carolina rookie quarterback Cam Newton as originally planned.
LoL!!…Holly “GodChild” BatMan!!!….What a bunch of stupid freakin “Donkey” CRAP!!…
Well I will warn that “Zebra” help can be expected to promote this “Holley AninMule” at our expense no doubt!!…I smell something very damn rank in the air…Putrid as Hell it were…Some concoction of religious insanity profane in it’s existence spewing from the ASS of that self proclaimed holly order of the Commissioner of the Underworld!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
argh. ;/
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Love it!
Commissioner of the Underworld!!!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm tellin ya
Some concoction of religious insanity profane in it’s existence spewing from the ASS of that self proclaimed holly order of the Commissioner of the Underworld!!!
We ought to have a fanpost just to save famous quotes from other posts.
For your fix PantyRaider ! ENJOY Brother.
Tebow Economics 101.
A new survey puts Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow in some rare Hollywood air.
Just how popular is he?
I have a very simple solution to this kind of fucking problem ...
As an NFL player, you are not, under any circumstances, permitted to leave your own property in possession of a handgun, nor may you ‘roll with’ people in possession of handguns, unless they are licensed/professional bodyguards.
If it is ever proven that you have done so, you are automatically, unequivocally and permanently kicked out of the NFL, with no further paychecks/benefits, and your career is over.
Boom. Done. This ongoing problem ENDS, just like that. If you REALLY need protection, carry a tazer or pepper spray, or hire a bodyguard. In fact, the NFL should consider subsidizing (or even paying outright for) them for players
Yeah, I know the gun-lovers will now come out of the woodwork with the ‘ZOMG now they’re all sitting ducks for robbers every time they leave the house!?!’ and all the attendant 2nd Amendment hysteria … but you know what? I don’t buy that crap. Hire yourself a bodyguard, stay out of bad areas, don’t wear $10,000 watches, and don’t roll with your thug homies anymore, and this rule will be easy to adhere to.
Not to get too political, but re: the 2nd Amendment ‘Constitutional Right’ to ‘bear arms’ … the actual underlying purpose of this amendment had absolutely nothing to do with ‘personal protection from bad guys’, and EVERYTHING to do with preventing the Federal Government from ever creating a formal, paid, professional military (aka ‘standing army’) in the USA.
Paradoxically, however, the majority of the gun zealots in the USA practically worship the military, and a very high % of them were/are in it. Funny, that ;)
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 2, 2011 12:12 PM PST reply actions
No need to tie up gun control with this
All NFL players are subject to personal conduct policies. I have no problem with enforcing policies that limit gun use with players to “discourage” them from casual use of a gun. It wasn’t the gun’s fault it was discharged. McCain acted like a thug and I can only hope this is the worst of what we willow ever see from him in his career. It’s up to Raider leadership from players or staff to help him understand the degree of stupidity he just displayed.
His actions don’t fit with Al Davis most recent comments about player conduct (he mellowed before he died). I just hope this doesn’t derail the positive of this season.
Lastly, has anyone asked the question about what he was doing in Alabama mid week? How did he get time to get into so much trouble. I don’t think the team left early for Miami.
"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King
by Gerard on Dec 2, 2011 2:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough ...
A cheap quasi-political jab on my part ;)
However, I’m saying the NFL should make the policy I outlined. Roll with handguns in any way, shape or form (unless they’re on your bodyguard) and you’re out.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 2, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
"mother fudger, you wanna fugde aroung? Fudge aroung wif me.... say hello to my little frieng?
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
This just in, Morgan County Sheriff’s Office said Rolando McClain renewed his pistol permit Wednesday, hours before the alleged assault.
Does this make anyone else
think that McClain is guilty?
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 2, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
Motive. premeditated actions, opportunity, witnesses ... he's clearly innocent b/c he hasn't been convicted by a jury
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Don't think it has anything to do with wether hi did it or not
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Apparently Ro is with the team in Miami
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An hour ago he was still alone there, per Paul Guttierrez
MLB #RolandoMcClain is at team hotel in Fort Lauderdale, ahead of his #Raiders teammates on charter csncalifornia.com
1 hour ago
by Spirals galore on Dec 2, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Hue may sit his ass on the wooden horse
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I Really Hope Not...The Very Best Thing For This Kid Now Is To Refocus On His Game -n- Demolish Someone!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
You May Be Right Though...From Hue:
“(I) have now gotten more information and can make a very informed decision on what I think is best for our team, and I’ll do that in the next day or so,” Jackson said. "Obviously, there’s a situation that happened, and I’ve had an opportunity to digest it all.
“I have 52 other players that are doing things the right way and doing things as I see they should be doing it, and we’re getting ready to play a game. I will deal with Rolando when that time comes.”
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I don't know if playing this Sunday would teach him anything. He's a hardcase and like all hardcases
we learn our lessons the hard way.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
True Be That...But Even As Hard Casses We Still Look To Our Bros!!
I think getting in there and playing is the very best therapy…Get him reunited with this team as his Bros and apart from the outside world…
But Bresnahan said they have other options that we will see,,,This one was posted:
For a brief sequence against Chicago last Sunday, weakside linebacker Aaron Curry played as an inside linebacker along with five defensive backs.
Big Daddy “Papa” Hue said this:
“We’re not going to let one thing bring down what we’re accomplishing, by no stretch of the imagination,” Jackson said. “Am I disappointed? Yes, just like anything. You get disappointed in your kids. All these guys are like my sons. And when they make mistakes, there’s consequences and things you have to deal with.”
"Tebowphobe"!!!
The best way for him to redeem himself
is get out on that field, dude, and kick some ass!
Come through for your team sunday after letting them down big time monday.
I got the very same impression from Hue
Ro needs to learn something from this; if nothing else but that there can be ramifications for actions whether they come by law, league, or by Mr. Jackson.
I think the “information” armed him adequately to make a decision, and I think it’s been made.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Looks that way. Hue wants to tell Ro first, Man to Manboy
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 3, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
The Injury List:
Running back Darren McFadden (foot), wide receiver Denarius Moore (foot), wide receiver Jacoby Ford (foot), defensive end Jarvis Moss (hamstring), running back Taiwan Jones (hamstring) and quarterback Jason Campbell (collarbone) were ruled as out and will not be active against Miami.
Place-kicker Sebastian Janikowski (hamstring), defensive tackle Tommy Kelly (toe), McClain, defensive end Trevor Scott (shoulder) and linebacker Kamerion Wimbley (hamstring) are questionable.
Listed as probable are defensive end Lamarr Houston (knee), safety Michael Huff (ankle), cornerback Chris Johnson (hamstring, groin), safety Mike Mitchell (ankle) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (knee).
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Last year it was heavy on hamstrings and they're still a big problem. This season it's the foot (including toes and ankles)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue Jackson 8/19/11
"If this team ever becomes elegant, we won’t know what to do with ourselves. rightnasty on Nov 28, 2011
Scourge the Raiderphobes!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like it's gonna be another good day for guys like Shiliens, DHB, Murphy, Reese, & Bush to shine
But I would love to see both (all 3) of our TE’s get more balls as well.
And the Rock is gonna get to carry the rock a bit too again I bet
spelling Bush
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