RaiderDamus Sees The Future Week 15: Raiders vs. Lions
Ahoy, Raider fans! It is I, RaiderDamus, the man with the plan, your paragon of virtue, the excellence of execution, and the World's Freshest Man. This week has required some extra viewing time with the finnicky Great Beyond, which is why this article is so late. In any case, after the jump, I shall reveal all that was revealed to me.
It used to be when a team faced the Lions, they could chalk up an automatic 'W' in their record sheet. No longer. These Lions are big, fast, strong, and mean. Jim Schwartz is a good coach- but when one grows up watching Wayne Fontes putz around the sidelines taking credit for Barry Sanders' awesomeness, one holds Detroit coaches to a slightly lower standard. Bobby Ross wasn't much better. If Detroit had employed a quarterback worth a damn during Barry Sanders' career, he might have stayed a few more years. Instead he was stuck with the likes of Charlie Batch and Scott Mitchell. To add insult to injury, he was placed on the cover of Madden. Blecch. I'd have retired too.
Here is the list of Good Detroit Lions Quarterbacks Throughout History:
1. Bobby Layne
2. Matt Stafford
Please keep in mind that Bobby Layne's last season as a Detroit Lion was 1957. Were any of you born then? I was negative twenty-seven years old. My point is that Matt Stafford is a legitimate quarterback, and almost single-handedly makes the Lions a legitimate team. Ndamukong Suh or no Ndamukong Suh, if the Lions had a worse QB at the helm they would be a considerably worse team. For proof of this, see any of the games started last year by Drew Stanton, or the entire 2008 season, wherein despite having Calvin Johnson on the team, the Lions failed to win a single game. It was this misfortune that brought Stafford into the fold.
My long-winded and possibly obscure point here is that none of the players on the Lions matter except Matt Stafford. That is not to say that none of their players are good- they have a lot of talent. But the Lions do not win without Stafford. This season, the Lions offensive line can be described as "good" and that's been enough to put them into playoff contention. The Raiders' current defensive line play can be described as somewhere between "crappy" and "downright abysmal". Therefore I can only conclude that the key to beating the Lions relies almost solely on penetration and pass rushing.
Matt Stafford is a very good quarterback, but he is no Aaron Rodgers. He does not get better under pressure, he gets worse. He throws the ball to the other team *cough Carson Palmer cough*. So the only way to beat the Lions, who are almost certainly a better team than the Raiders RIGHT NOW, is to harass Stafford all game and beat the blocks of the Detroit guards. Richard Seymour is the most important player on the Raider team this week, as he has the ability to do this.
On the other side of the ball, the Raiders absolutely have to establish the run. I do not care if it takes three quarters to do so. The Lions made the Broncos one-dimensional and beat them 45-10. They are ball hawks and they are physical. If the defense can keep the game low-scoring it will play to Oakland's advantage. Now don't be all "well that was Tim Tebow blah blah." Yeah, it was, and they were the last team he lost to. Denver's defense got blown apart in that game and they are a better unit than ours.
I said the Raiders would get wiped off the face of the earth last week. You scoffed at me. I said it would be 45-17, Packers. It was 46-16, Packers. When will you stop doubting me?
I think the Raiders CAN win if they do what I listed above. However, I don't think they will. Lions win, 31-21.
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-30 to GB, -20 to Miami, and now by your powers you're telling us -10 to Det. At this rate we tie KC.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
Defensively, we match-up better against Detroit than our last two opponents. Since Bresnahan is hardwired to play
soft and rush 4 (unless he’s frightened of the QB and rushes 3) the plan for once may work against Stafford. On Offense, we are fortunate that Denarius is back to give Bush a looser box and Palmer a real nfl caliber target.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
Not so sure
Dunno If we match up well against Johnson n co. at receivers. Plus Looks likes Kevin smith may b back. Still tho I think da RAIDERS r ready n I KNOW the fans r!!!! Gonna b a tough one but I think we will pull out a W!!! Can’t freakin wait!!!! I’m so damn pumped up for this game i can only imagine n hope the team is as pumped. Lets go RAIDERNATION!! See u there. LOUD n PROUD!!!!! JUST WIN BABY!!!
by bigjon22 on Dec 17, 2011 4:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Raiders NO Longer Out Of Gas And Will Come To Play....Slump Ends In 31-21 "V"!!!
GOOOOOoooo Raiders!!!…..8-n-6….
“Armless ASS” is dropped to 8-n-6 by “NE”…
Jets are grounded by the “Green Pigeons” at 8-n-6….
“SD” is taken out of the picture by the “BlackBirds”…
Cinnci Climbs to 8-n-6 as well…StL…Right!!
Titans 8-n-6…Like the Colts could stop them???
2 weeks left and the race is on!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Yikes!!...1st The "Zebra" -n- N0w The Cops!!!...Green Tickets Instead Of Yellow Flags But Same-Same!!
Drink Me Hardies Yo-Ho!!..
But be ye warned…That OakTown “Rat Patrol” is out to get cha!!!….DUI Makes $$$$
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_19563463
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I wish I could disagree RD ...
I keep trying to find reasons for hope in this game, some matchup that looks clearly favorable to us, and I’m just not finding any … of course w/the way the Raiders have been playing lately in every phase of the game, that’d probably be hard to do against any team that’s not the Colts. Actually, hell, the Colts probably could’ve beat this team the last two weeks.
My gut feeling is telling me something is ‘wrong’ at the core of this football team. I feel like the team is not properly-focused, they’re lacking in confidence and concentration, and they are demoralized … Basically, psychologically, chemistry-wise, whatever you want to call it, the team is ‘not all there’.
I dunno if it’s just all the injuries, or something more ‘profound’, but to me it looks like they’re not playing as ‘a team’, on either side of the ball … and this is a team game, and you can’t win when you’re not playing as one. And I’m not sure that the problems can be fixed this season, esp. w/so many of our playmakers either still out, or playing hurt.
All told I see no legitimate reason to believe shit is gonna suddenly turn around for us this week. That’s not to say it WON’T, because one thing is for sure … if this team plays to it’s potential, they are capable of beating anyone … but I just am not finding any real reason for optimism. But then again, I thought SD would kick our asses 6 weeks ago, and I was WAY wrong, so … let’s hope I am wrong again ;)
I’d like to think that the ‘must win’ nature of this game would spur them to come out and excel, but both the last two games have been must-win also, esp. Miami, and we all saw what happened. The opposite, basically. On top of that, this is a must win for Detroit as well, they got a quite a bit of competition for that NFC WC, they cannot afford to slip. They will bring their A-game, and Suh is probably gonna beast on us pretty hard.
We’re gonna have our hands full, that much is for certain. Can this team rise up and meet the challenge, and show us this ain’t the same old Raiders? The same old cast of jokers that will just fold it up in the face of adversity that we saw for the past 9 years?
Has Hue and the rest of his coaching crew truly brought something ‘new’ (or rather, something ‘old’, back) to this franchise, or are we still the ‘same old Raiders’, who just got lucky three straight weeks playing against weakened teams, and really should’ve gone 0 for their last 7, based on where they actually ARE as a football team?
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 17, 2011 8:14 AM PST reply actions
"My gut feeling is telling me something is ‘wrong’ at the core of this football team"
Two things:
Injuries
Chuck Brensehan
I hope it's that simple ...
I really, really do. Because the logical alternative (or addendum) … is that the players don’t really care to give it their all for Hue and/or Carson and/or their teammates … would all be very frightening scenarios indeed.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 17, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
Two reasons I believe this true
1. With DMC, Ford and Moore healthy, this team is a load to handle. Just ask San Diego when they were brutally whooped on national TV by that offense… Without DMC (yea, I know he wasn’t there for the SD game, but keep listening anyways) the team becomes one dimensional on running plays. SD didn’t figure that out, nor did they have the personnel to stop it anyways. Chicago laid the blue print on how to be a DMC-less Raider team, in stacking 9 in the box. Bush lacks to speed to get outside, so the number of gaps a defense must cover, is reduced, making it easier to win the plays. Miami ran with that, and due to Hue’s lack of creativity with his game planning, even GB’s porous D was able to do the same. Look for more this week, and hope Hue learns how to beat that 9 in the box. Moore will help, as he did in SD. Everytime SD put 9 in the box, CP3 hit Moore for big plays…. Heres to hoping for moore of that!
As for the D… We all know Chuck sucks. But if you need further proof, here you go. How many times this year have the Raiders had the wrong number of persons on the field??? Not just last week, but you can think back to Houston on the last play of the game, the Raiders only had 10 players defending the goal-line. how many times just last week alone did this happen? Sorry boys and girls, say ANYHTING you want, the DC has the job of getting the right personnel in the game for each package, and calling the plays. Fail! Not only that, but how many times this year have the Raiders had a lead at the half, where the D has played well, and in the second half, they stop blitzing, and sit back to be picked apart? Buffalo, Houston, Chicago, Denver…. Why did he change calls??? And that fact that the D CAN play good in the first half, shows it is not the players. It is the play calling that is hurting them.
Injury free, and Chuckless, this team is easily 2 games up in the division, awaiting the playoffs….
ptetty much this
The Raiders are beat to hell and have a terrible defensive scheme. One of those things can be fixed.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Dec 17, 2011 8:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
These two definitely. But also a lack of strong leadership (on and off the field).
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 17, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Consider what SF did with merely adding a coach and what Denver is doing with the presence of a leader
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 17, 2011 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
You know I'm not gonna disagree ..
Been saying that all week. Every legit team in this league has obvious on-field, (typically veteran) leaders that know how to really step it up at the right time, which then gets the team fired up, and then they rally around that player and raise their own level of play … and those are types of players which this squad seems to currently lack. And such players are esp. important when a team is generally young … like the Raiders are.
And not to speak ill of the dead, but when I look at a great many of the Raider teams fielded over the past 30 years, this fundamental concept appears as though it was lost on Al, that he just never ‘got it’ that a bunch of dudes w/great measurables, a QB w/a big arm (and little else), along with cheap yes-man posing as NFL Coaches, does not a great team make.
The reason that the Raiders staged a run in 1999-2002 was that Davis’ tendencies were, for once, over-ruled, and the organization fielded a proper mix of hard-working veterans who led by example (the likes of Gannon, Rice, Brown, Parrella, Romo, Woodson and Woodson, etc), along with some decent young talent (that weren’t all just fast) under coaches that legitimately commanded a measure of respect (although Callahan’s derived largely vis-a-vis working closely with Chucky the prior few seasons, as opposed to having been earned by his own merits). Once Gruden was gone, and those leaders either retired or moved on, the 00’s went just like the 80’s (post 1983), and the 90’s (post 1991).
Al’s consistent lack of prioritizing true leadership talent over arm strength (QB’s) 40-times (other players) and obsequiousness (coaches) is why, no matter who this team physically consists of, the problems are always the same.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 17, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Last year 13th Defense and 26th Offense.
Their secondary was bad and couldn’t make up for excellent LBs and a decent DL and their O line was pretty bad last seasontoo. Now, SF’s D is ranked 4th and its O is still 26th (based on games stats) with most of the same players as last year. Ironic that Iron Mike couldn’t get more out of his D and it took a mean-faced ex-QB to amp them.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 17, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
I Think This Team Just "Hit The Wall"....
Way too much way too fast this whole freakin season…It would take allot of space just to list all the adversities so I will skip that…We all remember them…
But than the whole week leading up to Miami all we heard about was “DeathRo” and the Gun!!!….I was feeling down about that game as well…Than the team came out and had their collective asses handed to them while playing like crap!!…
That unpleasant sight carried over into week #13 as well…By the end of the 1st quarter “V” in that game was already out of sight…
Now I’m seeing some encouraging words that make me believe this really is what happened to our Raiders…
Bresnahan points to a "rejuvenated effort" in practice and the meetings, akin to what he recalls seeing three weeks ago, when the Raiders were riding high, at 7-4 and in first place in the AFC West…The key, Bresnahan said, is getting that kind of effort and focus every week. "It’s exactly like it was three weeks ago," Bresnahan said. "But you got to be able to do that all the time."
"Tebowphobe"!!!
More On The Matter..."Out of Gas"???
In each of the last two road games, the Raiders trailed 34-0 before scoring en route to one-sided losses and looked like a team running on empty.
Jackson, however described this week’s mood and energy as "awesome — probably different than it’s been the last four or five weeks.’’
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Dec 17, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Fixed this year?
Let alone this week?
I think we all know the answer to that question. As long as Panda is waddling along the sidelines, this team is gonna struggle (at best).
I’m very near to officially ‘looking forward to next season’ mode. If we lose and Denver wins, that will seal that deal. Even though it would still be the case that a 2-0 finish for us and 0-2 for them would get us in, if Denver beats the Pats, they’re probably not losing another game, so … hopefully at the very least the Tebow’s lose to the Brady’s, which will take a lot of the sting out of dropping our 3rd straight and at least make it interesting for one more week, possibly two.
That’s about the most I’m hoping for at this point … a ‘meaningful’ week 17 where we still have a shot. Denver’s losing is actually equally as important as us winning, and I give that a lot better shot at happening, frankly.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 17, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Denver will not beat the Pats
They are not good enough. The only thing that gives me pause is Brady’s total lack of success against the Donks especially in Denver. Belichick sucks there too.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Dec 17, 2011 11:14 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
You r dead on...
First and foremost it is the offensive weapons that are injured that has completely demoralized the Raiders. Secondly and completely related to the first is leadership. Carson was brought in to HELP the Raiders and POSSIBLY lead them IF their primary weapons remained healthy and continued their stellar play. But with all of the injuries to key components of our offense we are left with no one to score with. Bush is a good running back, but with no passing game, defenses have keyed on him and made the Raiders one dementional. And to be totally honest, the straw that broke the Raiders back was a teamate that had zero thought of his team and couldn’t care less of his team’s focus in Rolando McClain. That kind of B.S. is what cost the Raiders a Superbowl when I think Barret Robbins went physco the night before the big game. Distractions like that can completely derail teams and here we are. Mainly because of injury and leadership. Bresnahan is only becoming the posterboy of our problems because we are unable to score. He also sucks, but look at the Bears with their great D but no way to score.
by infinateraiderfan on Dec 17, 2011 12:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Leaving the past in the past for now, and it's a new day
I’ll resist the urge to predict (95% inaccurately) and look forward to seeing a Raiders team we haven’t seen show up yet.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
I've watched highlights of jacoby Ford and Moore just now.
The potential of this offense is great, and it a shame that our players are getting injured….
I think Palmer would do better with DHB and Moore as our #1 and #2, but I still expect him to throw a pick this game.
This will come down to getting pressure on stafford, and keeping calvin in check. I have a feeling that if we pressure stafford, he’ll throw at least 2 picks. As long as our offense gets down the field alright, we should win this 23-20.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
When he has been healthy he hasn't thrown more than one pick in any game.
We are taught from an early age how to deal with failure not success. (If at first you don't succeed try try again, if at first you succeed then what....) -Charlie Sheen
I come ready, when I came out the womb I was ready, tell them mama that's why you had me, you knew I was ready. -Moss
Dominating your opposition physically is great and all, but confounding them mentally is sooo much more fun.
2-15-DEN 44(14:36) (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 47 for 3 yards (N.Suh). FUMBLES (N.Suh), RECOVERED by DET-N.Suh at DEN 47. N.Suh to DEN 47 for no gain (K.Moreno). FUMBLES (K.Moreno), recovered by DET-C.Houston at DEN 47. C.Houston to DEN 47 for no gain (O.Franklin). Denver challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 49 for 5 yards (S.Tulloch).
Thats good news then.
Should take into account too that we’ll be facing a top 3 DL. I hope our OL can get the job done, but I could see Palmer make a couple mistakes when under pressure..
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
If You Watch Highlights Of The Det/Minn Game It's Tell s A Story About That Lion "D"...
Minn was able to make big play after big play in that game late…Than when about to pull out the “V” a blown call on the fumble (Face Mask) gave the Lions that game…Should have been 1st n goal at the 1/2….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEtElTDhCjs
"Tebowphobe"!!!
The Lion's D was also injured like no other time this year
They said after the game that they lost so many people that they couldn’t even go into their nickle defense. They could only run base against four and five wide sets. They lost so many people that they were playing Wideouts at DB. And some random guy off the street who had just signed .
So yeah big plays happened but that’s kind of expected when you lose your # 1,2,3, and 4 corners followed by your top safety and your starting LB and Suh, Fairley, and Jackson on the D Line.
We are taught from an early age how to deal with failure not success. (If at first you don't succeed try try again, if at first you succeed then what....) -Charlie Sheen
I come ready, when I came out the womb I was ready, tell them mama that's why you had me, you knew I was ready. -Moss
Dominating your opposition physically is great and all, but confounding them mentally is sooo much more fun.
2-15-DEN 44(14:36) (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 47 for 3 yards (N.Suh). FUMBLES (N.Suh), RECOVERED by DET-N.Suh at DEN 47. N.Suh to DEN 47 for no gain (K.Moreno). FUMBLES (K.Moreno), recovered by DET-C.Houston at DEN 47. C.Houston to DEN 47 for no gain (O.Franklin). Denver challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 49 for 5 yards (S.Tulloch).
Blame the Lions D-cord for not making quicker adjustments when Webb came into the game
I don’t think Plamer will be racing down the sidelines for 6 points anytime soon.
I sim'd this game 3 times on All-Madden difficulty on Madden 12
Put all of the active players in and you wanna know what I got?
1st game Lions 37, Raiders 20
2nd game Lions 33, Raiders 17
3rd game Lions 38, Raiders 24
Most of the sims have been spot on is prior games, so I too am going with RD on this one and go with a Lions victory 38-23.
See ya Sunday and GO LIONS!
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Dec 17, 2011 2:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Let's go RAIDERNATION!!!
Less than 24 hrs away!!!!!! Enough w the stupid predictions are YOU ready for some FOOTBALL?!! I know I am. I know this team is!! Let’s go. Btw. I predict a W. lol.
by bigjon22 on Dec 17, 2011 3:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Is your warranty still good?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 17, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
I say we go extreme Bresnahan defense
rush zero and drop all 11 in coverage. SO WE CANT POSSIBLY FAIL
i just dropped in to say
I don’t like the lions. Fuck suh. Fuck tebow. Stafgord gonna hurt.
Raiders
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Dec 17, 2011 9:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions
"CJ" Out For The Season:
12/17/2011 Placed CB Chris Johnson on the Reserve/Non-Football Illness list; signed DE Mason Brodine to the active roster
UNK coach Darrell Morris said the two-time, first-team Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference selection looks like an NFL player. The two-year starter had 155 career tackles with a school-record 23-1/2 sacks for the Lopers.
"He’s got the body, the long arms and all that kind of stuff," Morris said. "He’s very athletic, he runs very well, he’s big and strong and a hard worker."
Injury Report:
Name Position Injury Wed. Thu. Fri. Game Status
Campbell, Jason QB Collarbone DNP DNP DNP Out
Ford, Jacoby WR Foot DNP DNP DNP Out
Henderson, John DT Knee DNP DNP DNP questionable
Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR Heel FP FP FP probable
Huff, Michael FS Ankle DNP DNP DNP questionable
Johnson, Chris CB Not Injury Related DNP DNP DNP Out
Jones, Taiwan RB Hamstring DNP DNP DNP questionable
Kelly, Tommy DT Toe LP LP LP probable
McFadden, Darren RB Foot DNP DNP DNP Out
Moore, Denarius WR Foot LP LP LP questionable
Moss, Jarvis DE Shoulder LP LP LP probable
Murphy, Louis WR Hip - LP LP probable
Satele, Samson C Shoulder LP LP LP probable
Schilens, Chaz WR Foot LP LP LP probable
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I know I sound like I've already given up on this team this season, but I truly am excited to see what
the offseason is going to bring. New GM, new D-coordinator, new beginnings in our already stored franchise.
"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson
I'm Feeling Very Excited About This Game...And I'm Smelling "V" In Those Autumn Wids Again!!

Let’ It Rip!!!


"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Dec 18, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
Lets go Raiders
The Raiders can and will beat the Lions. They will show their hand today. A win will reveal a team that was not focused or dejected from a sputtering offense. A loss will show a coach that has lost his team. I hate the latter, but it feels like a total loss of control and a team with no direction. Hue states that “no one player can win a game” but it’s obvious that a team full of backups can quit on ONE coach. Well to be fair to Hue, an ineffective offense can have a defense quit. I have always believed that the offense feeds the moral of the whole team. Once the Raiders loose confidence in the offense, kiss the game goodbye. The key to this game will be each teams opening drive. The lions have been able to do what the Raiders have not and that is coming back in the third and fourth quarter to win games. If the Raiders do not produce points in the first quarter it’s going to be a long and tourcherous game.
by infinateraiderfan on Dec 18, 2011 5:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's because the D lacks leadership. An alternative to leadership (that is also effective) is having an excellent player;
who steps up everyone’s game by setting a high standard. Unfortunately, we don’t have a single pro-bowl quality Defensive player.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 18, 2011 6:10 AM PST up reply actions





































