CARSON PALMER=BEST RAIDERS QB EVER!

you sound like a fanboy. First Palmer isn’t even close to Gannon. You show all the other QB’s Faults but none of Palmers. Until we fix our Defense don’t talk about a Superbowl. Palmer isn’t good enough to carry this team without any help from the defense.

I like Palmer and I’m glad we’ve got him (the price is another matter), and I’d go along w/saying Palmer is the most physically gifted and complete QB the Raiders have ever had on the team, or something along those lines. But the greatest Raider QB, I have to give to the Snake.

For Palmer to unseat the Snake, I’m going to have to see him turn into a field marshall, a bona-fide Leader of Men that you can count on when the chips are down to rally the team from behind, both in regular season, and in playoff games, and see him win a Super Bowl with the Raiders … before I’m crowning him the Greatest Raider QB ever.

In short, time will tell. He has the physical tools, no question in my mind (although I still think he needs that elbow worked on because his velocity is NOT what it was before that injury) … but does he have the heart, and the ability to LEAD US TO GLORY like The Snake did?

Plunkett I like a lot, and he did lead us to 2 WB wins … but you’re kinda right … all he had to do was hand it off to Marcus Allen, and rely on a monster defense. He was more a game-manager type … but I’d still put him WAY WAY above Palmer in the hierarchy of greatest Raider QB’s.

You are not the best QB a team ever had when you miss not only 1 but 2 wide open deep guys which probably meant the game and the play offs. JC opened his wallet and paid to have players come to a Mini camp to give us a chance when it looked like there might not even be a season, which to me shows the leadership you accuse him of not having. Palmer quit on his last team “trade me or I am taking my ball and going home”.He has not proven anything so I am not ready to annoint him that. The Raiders were 4-2 when Campbell was playing now after dropping valuable picks they are 7-7 wow that makes him what 3-4 and 1/2. The half game because he threw those picks in the 2nd half of first KC game.
That being said if he plays 4 – 6 more years and wins the Bowl 1 or 2 times then I would say maybe yes.

If you look at the resume of all the quarterbacks before they came to Oakland, you can clearly see, that Palmer is by far the best.

Palmer didn’t even have to play one game as a Raider to be considered the best Raider QB of all time. The rest are not even close.

You obviously are to young to have realized the great things those QB’s have done for us. You never saw them play week to week and are going off on stats or what maybe someone else told you. Lamonica revolutionized the game! Stabler was unique and did his thing which won us a bunch a games along with our first Championship! Plunkett won two Championships with his leadership! Rich Gannon was awesome the during his tenure and would of won a couple of Championships if it were not for Gruden leaving. Gannon and Gruden complimented each other and thats why Gruden didnt do much after leaving Oakland. The Bucs Championship was Tony Dungy’s cuz that offense was mediocre. Anyway, Rich Gannon was a field General and I was hoping after his retirement he would be our QB’s coach since he’s so demanding. Carson is good and looks crisp and I cant wait for next year after him having an offseason with us because he will do some damage. Now that we have a legit QB we need a legit DC. So, next time dont just google for your information, watch hours of film before writing negatiive on Raider Greats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hue Jackson may be the worst coach in the history of the NFL. As badly coached as they have been for awhile, this years team puts those to shame. Ridiculous penalty after penalty, but his decisions are even worse if thats even possible. Let’s talk real recent. Last weeks horrendous give away to Lions. First on third and three with no timeouts for Lions we throw a 40 yard pass Genius.But even before that why in the hell would you kick an extra point after scoring with 7 minutes to play. You have to go for 2 to go up by fourteen. No ifs ands or buts . With 7 minutes left the Lions are not kicking any field goals so a 12 point lead is as good as a 13 point lead but a fourteen points lead means you cannot lose in regulation time. SIMPLE. But time after time they just look foolish on the field. Too much talent for this ..COACH CLUELESS JACKSON GOT TO GO.

I THINK STABLER PLUNKET AND CANNON WERE ALL GREAT QUARTERBACKS IN THERE ERA .. WHAT THE ONE THING THEY HAD IN COMMON . LEADERSHIP .. IF YOUR NOT A LEADER THAT YOUR TEAMATES RESPECT AND LISTEN TOO IN THE HUDDLE YOUR DONE .. STABLER DIDENT HAVE A STRONG ARM AND FREDY WAS A SLOW REC BUT DAM THEY GOT IT DONE ..PLUNKET WAS VERY AUCKWARD AND AT TIMES HE LOOKED CLUMSY AS HELL BUT HE HAD A GUN AND HE PUT IT IN YOUR CHEST EVERYTIME .. CANNON HE STUDIED THE GAME AND WAS ACCURATE AS THEY CAME .. BUT THEY WERE LEADERS AND HAD THERE RESPECT THEY BELEIVED WITHOUT THAT FIRST.. THE REST DONT MATTER

You claim that what made Gannon good was having Brown and Rice to throw to. Okay, let’s look at the good and great QBs in our era who have had great WRs to throw to that made them great:
Gannon-Rice and Brown
Young/Montana-Rice
Culpepper-Moss and Carter
Brady-Welker
Aikman-Irvine and Harper
Drew Bledsoe and Terry Glenn
Steve Grogan and Stanley Morgan
Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson
John Elway and Rod Smith
Aaron Rodgers to Greg Jennings
Kurt Warner to Larry Fitzgerald
Bart Starr to Max McGee
Jim Zorn to Steve Largent
Brett Favre to Donald Driver
Steve McNair to Derrick Mason
Joe Montana to Dwight Clark
Dan Marino to Mark Duper
Jeff Garcia to Terrell Owens
George Blanda to Charley Hennigan
Warren Moon to Cris Carter
Joe Theismann and Art Monk
Kurt Warner to Torry Holt
Peyton Manning to Reggie Wayne
Bob Griese to Paul Warfield – this duo led to a perfect 17-0 season, the only team to do so.
Len Dawson to Otis Taylor
Dan Fouts to Charlie Joiner
Kurt Warner to Isaac Bruce
Kenny Stabler to Cliff Branch
Don Meredith to Bob Hayes
Daryle Lamonica to Fred Biletnikoff
Brett Favre to Sterling Sharpe
Tom Brady to Deion Branch
Sonny Jurgensen to Charley Taylor
Roger Staubach to Drew Pearson
Joe Namath to Don Maynard
Jim Kelly to Andre Reed
Terry Bradshaw to Lynn Swann
Johnny Unitas to Raymond Berry
Dan Fouts to Kellen Winslow
Dan Marino to Mark Clayton
Tom Brady to Randy Moss
Peyton Manning to Marvin Harrison
and lastly
Carson Palmer to Chad Ochocinco
What makes the QB is the WR. However, the true, great QBs were LEADERS. Their players RESPECTED them. And most of them knew when to throw it and when to take the sack. EVERY QB throws interceptions. However, the first drive in the game against Green Bay, and Palmer throws an interception is inexcusable. Palmer’s inability to make the correct decision to hold onto the ball and not throw it away to an opposing player out of fear is what makes him a lousy QB. The interceptions he threw in yesterday’s game are a perfect example of that. Rather than taking the sack, he throws out of desperation, almost EVERY TIME.
As for the Superbowl we lost to Tampa Bay, the deck was stacked against us going into that game. A hurt QB, a piss poor excuse for a Head Coach, Gruden playing against us, and facing what is among one of the BEST DEFENSES to ever be in the NFL spelled our defeat. Don’ t talk to me about Gannon and that Superbowl. I LIVE in the Tampa Bay area, and have to hear that every time I talk to a Bucs fan. Palmer is NOT a great QB, and he is NOTHING if he doesn’t have a good WR to throw to. However, he actually has to GET IT TO that WR or TE if he is going to be even a good QB. ’Nuff said!

Kenny Stabler and Jim Plunkett won super bowls Daryle Lamonica , Rich Gannon took their Raiders teams to a super bowl the thing that they all have in common is they were leaders and had players around them plus when The Raiders where down 4th qurter and needed to score these guys would step up ( Kenny Stabler was a master of that ) . Jeff Hostetler was a good he was a warrior and had a hart of a lion but he took The Raiders to the playoffs a few times he also was on some bad Raiders teams and got beat up .Rich Gannon wasnt the greatest but he was smart and study game film like no other plus had good players around him and a headcoach who belived in him Gruden i only wish The Raiders got ahold of Gannon earliyer in his chreer i just think he good , smart and a leader . Now that super bowl with The Bucs they knew everything on what Gannon was going to do that day because evrybody knows Gruden told them so i think Gannon got a raw deal on that . I think it was Al’s fault for not changing the plays or doing things diffrent or mainly he should have not even traded Gruden ( but thats another topic ) . Jason Campbell was good i like him he was a leader for The Raiders and was on the right path on helping bring The Raiders back to the playoffs you have to feel bad for him on getting hurt when he did . Now Carson Palmer its way too earliy to call him the greatest hes has not got to the super bowl or the playoffs but i think in a few more season we will see what happens but i think Palmer can be good or maybe even great but only time will tell …..