Nothing Personal Chuck - Just get the F off my Team!
by DaveVVV on Dec 6, 2011 5:38 AM PST
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PrintI'm glad to see that most of you are waking up and starting to smell the coffee! We have one major problem, which absolutely has to be fixed, before we (Raider Nation) can enjoy a sustained level of success. Yes, I am going to say it again, "Fire Chuck Bresnahan!"
The rest of the problems we have are manageable. They are the kind of problems that come with being an NFL team approaching the 14th week in the season.
You simply can't have a major weakness at the DC position and be successful in the NFL - period!
For the Raiders to beat good teams, the offense has to compensate for the defense. And that just can’t happen every time we play a good team, or in this case (Miami), a team that is on the upswing.
The fact is, Bresnahan should have never been hired. I am still in awe over this hiring. It is the kind of hiring that makes me want to quit being Raider fan – SERIOUSLY!!! I say I want to, but I am too stupid to root for any other team, so I just live with the pain of a multitude of idiotic decisions over the years.
That gives me an idea, I think I may write an article on the worst Raider hires in history. My vote goes to the re-hire of a proven failure - Chuck Bresnahan. I'm mean, how much more idiotic do you have to be to hire someone that has proven with 3 teams - YOUR F---ING team - the Raiders, Buffalo and Cincinnati that he is a complete and utter failure at running a defense at the NFL level. What the F---?
I am not going to go on and on regarding Chuck’s record; you can read my article a few months back where I talk more about his past failures:
Simple Solution Fire Chuck Bresnahan
The funny thing is, Chuck can actually have some level of success with the Raiders. If you’ve paid attention throughout the years, Chuck’s defenses, on a regular basis, get slaughtered when the QB has any measurable time to throw the ball. He couldn’t teach a pop-warner team a dime package or an effective zone coverage. If he just recognized his weaknesses and just blitzed and played bump-and-run man-to-man, he would actually stop an opposing offense more often than not, especially with the athletes we have on the current Raider D-line.
What I find absolutely amazing, is that Chuck often blitzes in the first half of games and has some success, but an hour later, in the second half, he seems to forget what worked in the first half? Remember the Chicago game? He brought pressure and the Raider D looked good! So what does the jackass do after a successful first half of bringing pressure and attacking??? Yes, you’ve got it, he does the exact opposite! If bringing pressure was successful in the first half against Chicago, then logic would have it that you bring pressure in the second half. Not Chuck. This is why Chicago started moving the ball in the second half and gave us a little scare at the end of the game.
Any ways, nothing personal Chuck - just get the F off my team!!!!
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I think you pretty much covered it, Dave.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 6, 2011 6:57 AM PST reply actions
Hey Bronco fan whats up?
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 8, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
come on man you have to come with something better
I have never been to any other site but this one.
Sorry, no fucking way can you be a Raiders fan....theyre just constant fuck- ups in each comment you make.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 9, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Thats the way it is
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 10, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Chuck was agreeable to being Al's Puppet:
That worked when the team was successful from 2000-2002. No Al, no Chucky Lite. I see it being as simple as that.
Maybe Raheem Morris will be fired and can here or maybe Jack Del Rio wants to come home.
Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...
- J Kerouac
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2011 8:51 AM PST reply actions
Sadly...we have been sorely missing a strong DC for such a long time
It would be such a nice breath of fresh air to bring in someone that can put packages and plays together that play to our strengths.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Dec 6, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Del Rio
I would love to see Jack Del Rio come to the bay area. Jacksonville is currently ranked 5th in the league in total defensive. Pretty amazing given he was just fired.
BTW: The Raiders are ranked 26th.
I'd take Spags for a DC. He's one of those guys who will just never be a good HC
but he’d be a fine defensive coach.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Spags is probably the best DC target for us this off-season
He is a 4-3 guy and has had a lot of success in the past. I’d love to have him.
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
Didn't really work well then either... Gannon just outscored the opposition
That AFC championship game was no D struggle. Remember the year before in the snow bowl? D let them down when they had the lead. Regardless of that BS call, after that, the D let them down. And the year before that, I still cringe thinking about Sharp taking a pass from Dilfer (yea Dilfer beat our D) to the house on a third and a mile!
No, chuck has never been good. It was the O that made the team look good.
" I still cringe thinking about Sharp taking a pass from Dilfer (yea Dilfer beat our D) to the house on a third and a mile!"-TD Rader-
I’ve been reliving that nightmare for years now.
Dilfer to sharp, Raiders vs Bucs Super(not so)bowl and Patcheats vs Oakland in AFC Champinship game are arguably the three worse games this organization has faced.
fml
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
Snow Job game wasn't AFC Championship ...
If that’s the game you’re referring to ;)
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
I want to say thanks, but I'm drinking and arguing with my Raider neighbors
whom seem to think we are going to kill the Pack. Whenever I ask them how, they reply with, “I just feel that we are.”
I hate drinking and trying to reason with the unreasonables.
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
by bojackson34 on Dec 10, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
Roll the Panda
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"If the leader is filled with high ambition and if he pursues his aims with audacity and strength of will, he will reach them in spite of all obstacles." Karl Von Clausewitz
It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up.
Muhammad Ali
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Dec 6, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah!
PF Seymour. Protested by team and fans. Hue sends Herrera to get “the Panda” and tells him to “have him bring his playbook.”
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"If the leader is filled with high ambition and if he pursues his aims with audacity and strength of will, he will reach them in spite of all obstacles." Karl Von Clausewitz
It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up.
Muhammad Ali
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
During the Miami game thread.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"If the leader is filled with high ambition and if he pursues his aims with audacity and strength of will, he will reach them in spite of all obstacles." Karl Von Clausewitz
It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up.
Muhammad Ali
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
You'll be kept in the loop if we want you in the loop, got it?
in this case you are in the loop. feel excited.
Dangerously? Yea.
by TooShort2Play on Dec 6, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
And again
Please, for the love of god, THIS TIME, we must hire somebody who REALLY knows their stuff. Somebody with proven success running a tough defense. Then we basically make him a prisoner and only let him out for games, the rest of the time he is chained to his blackboard at Alameda.
I tried not looking at the defense so much when the defense actually failed...
I tried to say we lost a qb, we lost a rb, etc., and finally I’m saying bullshit. If you look at the defense there is sufficient talent there to get a decent job done every week. Sure, we had problems at the corners yet they have been serviceable. The linebackers had more inconsistency with Groves and improved with Curry. This is all just nitpicking bullshit. The 9ers were suck ass big time until they got some good coaching in Harbaugh. What the defense needs is to get rid of the inconsistency through good coaching. There have been to many weeks in which a serious meltdown by the D occurred and we have plenty of talent to be more consistent and perform much better. At the start of the season everyone had noted the Raider defense as being one of the most vicious and brutal lines so wtf? I am convinced that this inconsistency from what should be a good defense can only be attributed to terrible coaching. TIME TO GET RID OF BRESNAHAN
agree never like him the first time
Del Rio sounds good,Anyone who can build a Defense like the old days would be good.Tough nasty,a Real Raider D ,one that hits hard fast and takes the ball away. Have not seen that here in a long time. However with a lot of 3 and outs like lately any D will be tired.
yeah baby
Del Rio would be awesome. I think our personnel is so perfect for a 3-4 system. I would like to get one of those experts as our DC. Can never go wrong with del rio though he would be a short term solution as he will quickly get another hc gig. especially as colleges have offered him many opportunitie (USC).
How would you line us up in 3-4?
Seymour – Kelly / Henderson – Houston
Wimbley – McClain – Curry – Scott
Sheppard – Huff – Branch – Giordano – Routt
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"If the leader is filled with high ambition and if he pursues his aims with audacity and strength of will, he will reach them in spite of all obstacles." Karl Von Clausewitz
It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up.
Muhammad Ali
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Shaughnessy would like a word with you
That combination of linebackers makes me cringe. But replace Scott with Mario Williams and we have ourselves a deal.
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
by aleatoric on Dec 7, 2011 7:42 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WOW
I came to this article because I think somehow my mind controlled your keyboard. Couldn’t agree more with every word. Then I thought I would browse the comments for someone who would even dare to stick their neck out for that fat ass loser. NOTHING!!!! No one wants that idiot on the team! hahahahahahahahahaha!
Well if it is this unanimous in here, it has to be becoming very clear to Hue by now. And since hue is making his mark, and not Al, perhaps we can get a good D mind in here for next year. Cuz lets face it, Hue won’t fire him now. Not this late in the season, and in the playoff run. But when the season is over, and the dust settles, Hue would have to be a fool to stand behind this guy.
Besides, he even looks like a fat idiot. Doesn’t he???? I bet he eats the D game plan at the half, and that is why he stops blitzing
If we'd had the slightest idea that Mr Mallow
would be replaced by Chuckles the Panda we would not have been calling for Marshmallows head last year or ever.
Always the optimists we though Al would bring in a Mike Nolan or someone like that, but noooooo
we get Chuckles the Fat Clown Panda.
I cannot wait to have a new GM!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
True. One expects a replacement to be an improvement over a fired or cut predecessor. Out the frying pan... etc.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"If the leader is filled with high ambition and if he pursues his aims with audacity and strength of will, he will reach them in spite of all obstacles." Karl Von Clausewitz
It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up.
Muhammad Ali
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 7, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Raiders need to upgrade at D coordinator, but I am not as down on Chuck as most of you
One of the big reasons is that the D-line hasn’t played anywhere near the level they did last year. That has nothing to do with scheme. The D-line just needs to line up and beat the man in front of them, and they have the same coach for that group as they did last year.
We all knew that the D-line had to dominate for this defense to be worth a shit, and they aren’t.
That said, I would love to get a young and hungry D coordinator next year.
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
I'm doubly down on The Fat Clown Panda
from hating him and eventually cheering his departure last time around.
Nothing has changed with him…nor did I expect it to…same old tired scheme, same old unexplainable positioning and same old predictable prevent “D” whenever we have a lead and te same old lost look on his face. When he goes (again) it won’t be soon enough and again I’ll cheer!
See Ya Chuckles!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Our defense sucked Sunday against the (Butt) Packers. But the score 46-16 wasn’t even indicative of how bad it was; it was actually much worse than that and we’re lucky we didn’t give up 70 or more points.
We had 10 Men on Defense twice. It’s not surprising that we gave up a TD on one of them.
http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/?p=2104
http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/?p=2116
and almost a 3rd time (With Boyd running on field at the last second.)
http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/?p=2119
Then on the 12 Men on the field penalty, we really had >13< men on the field!
http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/?p=2110
And then we get a few mix ups in our coverage calls
http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/?p=2099
http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/?p=2143
and then we had 11 penalties for 89 yards, though it was even worse than that.
http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/?p=2134
The Packers basically had 4 free plays and 10 extra possessions.
This wasn’t just bad, it was an embarrassment. Half the time the defense couldn’t even line up against the Packers.
- goro -
Goro, have you considered doing any isolations of McClain against GB?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think anyone wants to see that
He was so far out of position on many plays that there might have been 9 men on defense for these plays
Well, it's way too late now .... anyway, the new GM will have plenty of film to look at.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 16, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Al Saunders does kinda suck...
but the job Raider offense has done so far more respectable than the coaching job on D. Offense is playing without 3 key skill position starters… D with playing without 1.
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Hard to say whether Saunders is good or bad. I know he helps Hue devise the game-plan and has the book of plays
I don’t think he calls plays during the games, so how would I be able to assess him?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Given the injuries sustained to this offense
it is hard to evaluate. All of the turnover leads to inconsistency and growing pains.
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
by Rich Langford on Dec 11, 2011 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
I don't see how you can evaluate Al Saunders at all.
On what merit do you say he sucks?
There is no way for us to judge Saunders performance because we don’t know his influence on Hue.
Hue calls the plays, it’s hard to say what part Saunders plays in the process. He could be pleading with Hue to change things and be less predictable during the game, no way to know if Hue listens, if that is actually happening or if Saunders is on board with every move.
There is just no way to judge him.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
On the merit of his past history as an OC
He has historic seasons and some really shitty ones too.
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Dec 11, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Guys I feel for you... I really do...
I have been a Bengals fan for 30 years so I know what disappointment is like. I know you are all excited about Palmer, but this is what he is. I have watched every snap of his career with the Bengals. The guy just doesn’t have it. He has regressed since his injuries. In his 2 great seasons he was surrounded by one of the best offensive lines of the past decade. His ability to read defenses is regressing, and unless his line is perfect he will not succeed. He always has that one game a year where you are like WOW this is what this guy could be, but he is a turnover machine and it always seems to happen at critical moments during the game.
Bresnahan was a terrible defensive coordinator in Cincinnati and it was painful to watch. We had him during the couple good years that Carson had and if it wasn’t for him we might have won something.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh is not the guy you want around your young receivers. He is a cancer in the locker room.
Jackson was a great receivers coach in Cincinnati and our receivers did really well under him. I think he is trying to bring in what was familiar to him and where he had success. Unfortunately this is 2011, not 05 & 06, and Bresnahan, Palmer, and Houshmandzadeh, are washed up.
I really hope that things get better for you guys and I wish you all the best. I hope you bring back Campbell, because you really had something going with him. You guys have a proud tradition and I am sure that you will get back to dominating the AFC West.
Agree about all 3
Did not like the trade for Palmer, only had 1 “okay” season in Cin, not worth all we gave up for him, sure I know, some will say, well with Campbell out and Bolger looking bad we had to do something, not that I’m big on Bolger but he was with the team, should have been given a better chance, don’t think we would be any worse off, at least he is more mobile,
Palmer is mostly a statue, and looky, McNabb is available, who knows????
Houshmandzadeh, useless, don’t know why picked up, cause he worked out with Palmer?
doesn’t show it on game day.
Bresnahan, one word; CRAP.
by ElevenAngryMen on Dec 14, 2011 6:13 AM PST up reply actions
I checked and
www.firechuckbres.com or just www.firechuck.com was available. Just a thought. If The fins and the queefs and the jags can fire a coach in season I dont see why we cant too.
they all waited till they were officially out of the playoff race
we’re still in it
AFC West Assassins...
Then there's an upside should we lose today and Denver win.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 18, 2011 6:58 AM PST up reply actions
;-)
For some of us, I guess. Our defense doesn’t bother me as much as our offense right now.
AFC West Assassins...
still comes down to the defense stopping them
ok turnover: first play in the packer game, int, pack takes over at the 45, grant burns one for the longest run of his year 55 yards….wheres the defense?
Totally agree
that play was a stinker. But, if the Packers never got the ball kicked off to them, they still would’ve won.
AFC West Assassins...
bother me?
it would bother me that we lost at all, but 46 to 16 isnt a loss, its a country ass stomping.
and
if our DC knew what he was doing, we wouldnt be running around looking like were playing the hokey pokey. piss poor coaching on both sides of the ball. all im saying is we cant win games if we cant stop them
Wondering the same
Tired of the same spiel at the press conferences, “we made mistakes”, “its my fault”, “we need to fix it” and blah, blah, blah.
Looks like he is in over his head and fed up as well,
However replace with who?, and geez another new coach?
Organization needs a GM, a good one, don’t think Madden would do, too old,
can’t think of any good candidates.
by ElevenAngryMen on Dec 14, 2011 5:52 AM PST up reply actions
MAYBE NOT
Esiason thought maybe he might get canned and mentioned it during the NFL today ….Today…
by Canadian Raider on Dec 18, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Chuck needs to go
Chuckie has always been just a below avg. d-coord. Our talent may not be at the level the great defenses are, buy our scheme sucks. Oh by the way, what is our scheme? Look at some teams who have basically the same players, but with a new d-coord. they have shown up, i hate to use Denver as an example. Look how stout their def is. We have too many players out of position and they do not seem to know if they are suppose to stop the run or pass. I am getting tired of excuses of why someone blows a coverage or assignment. The playoff teams don’t have excuses, they play with heart and determination and are prepared for each game. With that said, Chuck needs to go and he can take, Seymour (too old and slow, and too many mental mistakes), Kelly (only plays hard about 40% of the time, also commits too many mental mistakes), Houston (too small and too slow, also commits too many mental mistakes and is always out of position), Rout (overrated, doesn’t know how to turn his head around and look for the ball, blows coverages, especially goal line situations), Huff (too slow for a DB and can’t cover anyone, sorry he may be able to cover me, i run a 7.8 40) and Bryant (too slow and too small, sometimes makes plays, but we need someone to make plays all the time, plus he will make bone head mistakes at the wrong time) with him. These are the guys that continue to make the stupid mistakes and do not play with intensity 100% of the time.
by thesilverandblackpirate on Dec 13, 2011 4:06 PM PST reply actions
Curious
Raiders defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan coached Woodson from 1998-2003 in his first stint with the Raiders.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_19513454
Raiders Defense (Yds/G)
1998 – 5th
1999 – 10th
2000 – 17th
2001 – 18th
2002 – 11th
Is it coincidence that the defense dropped from 5th to 18th in his first 4 seasons with the Raiders?
words of wisdom from the desk of Upchuck:
Defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan said it was a matter of not "setting the edge" against the Dolphins and being in the wrong gap on Grant’s 47-yard TD run on the second play from scrimmage.
"If you do that, the next guy to make the play is the safety and we didn’t get that done, so the ball goes to the end zone," Bresnahan said. "So it’s different each time but it’s easily corrected seeing it on tape. Doing it on the field’s a whole different story, so that’s again an emphasis point this week."
Ok you saw the problem, that was in the first set of downs for the fins ( Grant the first play) seeing the problem is allowing 80 points to be scored and doing nothing to rectify the freaking problem?
and it happened again last week on GBs 1st possession. "So it's different each time" (Hericlitus?)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 15, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Time for a new LBs coach too?
Mebbe? Doesn’t seem to matter who we start at the position, the concept of gaps seems lost on them.
TIME TO GO
When you get pressure and are using different looks all through the game then you resort to the "Prevent"crap when the chips are on the table……It is what he always does,he has to go we have no chance the D played well tonight against the lions right up till the last 2 minutes when our idiot coaches fucked us
by Canadian Raider on Dec 18, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions
CHUCK RUNS TOO MANY PACKAGES
sometimes you can out smart and out coach your own team! yesterday we ran so many packages we were confusing our own team. we had the players to stop calvin johnson we just didnt use the players instead WE USED JEROME BOYD AND MCLAIN WHO I CANT BLAME FOR TRYING TO COVER AN ALL-PRO RECEIVER!
I don't even want to think about Chucks package
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
chuck doesnt have a package, hes a ball-less pathetic example of a
P O S that shows up at twinkie time.
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