Free agency: what we don't want.
I wanted to highlight what I believe would be possible mistakes in picking up free agents at needed positions. My focus is on character issues that players have that can be disruptive to our team. These are players that should never have been in the silver and black because they did not don on the uniform to be true Raiders. A recent example is Randy Moss. At best, he might have been an example to other receivers through his ability to be very talented, where other receivers could learn from his performance, but I doubt that you could get Murphy, Ford, or DHB, to say that Moss could show them anything. Moss was a person who fought with coaches and played for himself, no one else. He eloquently presented how self-centered he is when Favre threw a touchdown bomb that he could have caught, but stopped dead in his tracks to complain to the ref that he was interfered. Can you imagine how upset Favre must have been and the rest of the Vikings? He was immediately fired by the Vikings and put back up for free agency. He also fought with coaching at NE, and I believe this is one reason why they got rid of him. How can he be a true Raider when he said, "If they don't know how to use me they should trade me." Moss has expressed that he wants to be a Pat and cannot dedicate himself to other teams, as the Titans are currently experiencing. Cable made a smart move when he decided not to pick him up a second time.
Sapp was another player who was never really a Raider. He complained and complained, biting the hand that feeds him. How can someone like that really contribute to our team. Under the facade of genuine talent, I believe all he did was disrupt the team - clearly, he was no Seymore. Sapp is currently involved with the Bucs, and to me, Sapp was always a Buc, even when he was with the Raiders. Players like him only serve as disruptions in disguise.
Consider Ocho and Owens at the Bengals. These two wrs lately have been blaming each other for the problems the Bengals are experiencing. They have been tweeting each other saying that they are going to beat each other up, etc. No one doubts their talents and they are not being criticized for their talents. Ocho alluded to changing his name back to Johnson in the hope of Hue picking him up. Now that Hue has clarified he wants neither Ocho nor Owens, he is saying he never intended to change his name - How Immature! He is now saying he really wants to be a Bengal! Even Carson Palmer has complained about Ocho and has threatened the Bengals with retirement because he has been so disgruntled. Do the Raiders need such theatrical pranks that could disrupt the team as he has with the Bengals? Bringing in such purported talent did not work out for the Bengals even though they brought in two stellar receivers in Ocho and Owens, so that is not always the answer.
My point is that no matter what the talents of a player are, we do not need misleading disruptions like that. I'm not saying to avoid free agency, but I am saying to pay attention to the attitude of the player. A free agent can fill a true need as Seymore did. Ocho clearly stated he wanted to be traded first to NE, and if not NE then to Oakland. He wants to go to NE for the same reason that Moss wants to go back to NE - they want superbowl rings, particularly because they are older and are into it for themselves, not the team.
I want to conclude by saying that we should always try to get what we need through the draft because that is where the Tim Browns exist. It meant more to Tim to win with the Raiders than to win a ring with another team. That is why we blessed Tim with the sacred name of MR. RAIDER - because truer Raiders cannot be found. Drafted college players automatically commit their hearts to the silver and black, a most important element that is needed to play at their best on the field, unlike Moss, Sapp, or Ocho.
Signed, Silver&BlackPsycho
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I hope
we avoid free agency all together. If we sign all of our key players and continue building through the draft correctly we have a true contender.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I don't mind giving guys second chances if they perform on the football field.
That’s what the Raiders are and have always been about. If you want to support a team of choirboys, go become a fan of the Bongos and Jesus H. Tebow.
The only thing that anyone who wants to play in Oakland needs to know is that once you pull on the Silver and Black, you become part of something bigger than you. It’s about the team first and foremost – we have no time for selfish divas. That’s why Moss and Sapp let us down. But I do believe that character concerns shouldn’t ever be what stands between us and a ring. Otherwise, we’d never have been the team of Ken Stabler, of Jack Tatum, of Lyle Alzado…
No one likes us,
No one likes us,
We're the Raiders and we don't care...
"Darth Vader is a punk compared to Al Davis." - Hunter S Thompson
Jack Tatum had an excellent character. Read his autobiography*, which is filled with contributory anecdotes from former coaches
and players about Tatum. And although Jack grew up in a NJ ghetto, he steered his life away from gangs and drugs by channeling his energies and focus into sports. I’d say Jack Tatum had one of the best characters to ever dawn the Silver & Black. He was quiet, calm, respected his coaches and did his job on the field to the best of his abilities, which were of the highest caliber. Moreover, he stayed out of trouble off the field. His name should not be associated with anything less than greatness.
- They Call Me Assassin (1979)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 26, 2011 6:19 AM PST up reply actions
Didn't say that he was anything but a legend.
I’m talking more about his on-field exploits.
No one likes us,
No one likes us,
We're the Raiders and we don't care...
"Darth Vader is a punk compared to Al Davis." - Hunter S Thompson
Jack Tatum played within the rules as they were at the time. He played the game as physically as anyone has.
He was not a dirty player. The “hook” that he used (as did George Atkinson) was legal then. I wish we had someone like him now.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 26, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don't disagree with your view at all Screwfish
The Tooz was an excellent example of a person with an attitude who was successful with us. I am just saying that you sort of have to have a second wisdom when you look at these people. Ocho has been in what, 6 pro bowls or so? Do I doubt that he can contribute to this team? He most certainly has the potential to do so. You just have to be very careful when you pick up people like that because of their potential to disrupt the team, which is what we don’t want, which is all I’m saying.
by RaiderPsycho on Feb 26, 2011 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
The difference being
The times we live in and the difference in pay/attitudes etc are different. The guys we used to pick up were often miscast, misunderstood, underachieving on go nowhere teams, what have you. What they all had was a desire and need to win. Let’s face it; those guys didn’t make enough to go half assed about their jobs. On Sunday, they had to go all out. The guys today (at least many of them) are part of a generation that has had much handed to them. When picking these guys up, due diligence is needed to determine not only their abilities, but their drive and will to win as part of a team.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
In that regard Rusty, I think I should also clarify what I also mean by second wisdom.
Consider again Ocho. If we had Brady at qb I would be less concerned about picking up Ocho as a necessary fill in for an experienced wr. Likewise, if he were joining us during the days of Stabler and Co. I would feel a bit more confident. I would even venture to say that Ocho can fit the image of a Raider rogue, which practically seems attractive to me. However, we have JC who is currently still finding his mark with his wrs. If Ocho could disrupt Palmer that much to want to make him contemplate retiring, what might he do to JC? It seems a little too risky, particularly when at this time it is not an overjudgment to consider the Raiders to be playoff potential. Hope you all see what I mean by secondary wisdom.
by RaiderPsycho on Feb 26, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I should possibly add that if Raider coaching did deem an experienced wr was needed...
Then we can look at other safer options that could be about as productive. For example, Plaxico Burress may have shot himself in the foot, but I hardly have reason to think he would be disruptive to the Raiders for that reason. I feel more comfortable with Burress any day than Ocho.
by RaiderPsycho on Feb 26, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I am in complete agreement with you.
My thought was that some people don’t think about how things and times have changed. I also feel more comfortable with Burress.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I hear you.
The only reason I’m not scared of Ocho is because of his brand of crazy.
Yes, he’s a showoff and a narcissistic attention seeker, but I haven’t ever heard anyone question his desire to win. Unlike T.O., I’ve also never heard him bitch about not getting the ball enough. I can live with my WRs having seven different reality shows as long as they give a crap on game day and don’t make fools of anyone but themselves.
No one likes us,
No one likes us,
We're the Raiders and we don't care...
"Darth Vader is a punk compared to Al Davis." - Hunter S Thompson
I would like OchoCinco but I'm not entirely comfortable with the reality shows
I can’t see Al being comfortable with it either.
P&T - Screw D-Will we got She-Will
Trying to avoid bad character issues
ain’t easy, for every Randy Moss picked up in free agency and turned to shit is a JaFatass Bustell acquired through the draft and turned to shit.
The Raiders have always been a player friendly, easy on rules kind of team. Some guys do not thrive in such an environment and will take advantage and slack off. These type of players need a Belichick or Parcells to lay down the law to them to get them to perform.
We need players that are self motivated and don’t have to have someone up their ass to get anything out of them.
To that end, we should stay the hell away from Ochostinko.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

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