Building this Bully: Keys to Success, Offseason, Version 1--The Offense
And so, another chapter of Raider football unfolds in a new offseason, and the Nation anxiously and eagerly awaits results of what it will bring. We know full well, that in 2010, we fielded a formidable offense, extremely dominant in the run game, and explosively dangerous in the pass game without any real consistent performers at the wideout position. So with that, let us break down what is and what will be, position by position, and look at some possibilities of what we might expect. No matter what happens, we know this guy figures to be a key part of the bully that emerged in 2010, and turned the heads of many a defensive coordinator:
Hit the jump to read on about the components of project bully.
Offensive line:
The start of the 2010 season saw quite a different alignment than we would as the season progressed, and thankfully so. Mario Henderson proved to be ineffective at the left tackle position, where arguably our best draft pick Jared Veldheer emerged as his replacement, with impressive results, and a lot of room to grow. We can expect Jared to be a solid tackle for years to come. With losing Gallery at the guard position on his side, we can expect to see Daniel Loper getting some snaps, and perhaps finally see what Bruce Campbell has to offer. Some have speculated here that his blend of size, speed, and athleticism might find him getting worked in at tackle; while I'm not sold on that notion yet, I'm not adverse to seeing how he compares, if it isn't already being done by staff.

Center, Samson Satele, figures to stick around for at least awhile, and some of us hope the position sees some potential starting competition in Uncle Steve's nephew Stephen Wisniewski, or names like Pouncey, O'Dowd, and others that have been thrown around. I'm not so sure our staff looks to upgrade this position, but if Mike Pouncey comes available to us, or even Wiz, I expect them to come in, and shake up multiple spots on the line, including the snapper. Many of these guys will boast the ability to play guard, and have done so at the college level as well. If one of the guys who comes in as a center is not taken, the depth of adept blockers at G this year should definitely be examined thoroughly, as this component of our bully is not yet fully intact and prepared to take us to that level of dominance we aim to demonstrate. Langston Walker should be kept as tackle depth, or to compete for a starter at guard, as Cooper Carlisle should only provide depth if kept at all. To give us that nasty edge we need a big body mauler and road grader type guy with a nasty streak, be it in free agency or in the draft. Khalif Barnes fits nicely with his versatilty to play essentially an extra lineman in our jumbo set, when he's made eligible as another TE, and we've seen this work amazingly in both the run game and when Khalif finds open space in play action.
Wide Receivers:

At times, it seemed Jacoby was the lone receiver amongst them. At others, it's Murphy, on rare occasion Heyward-Bey, but if this unit can gel, stay healthy, and become a true corps, imagine what we can expect from this "bully" offense, when our receivers numbers eclipse those of our TEs, FBs, and RBs out of the backfield. Many of us hope for the addition of just one guy like Houshmanzadeh, Rice, or another solid possession guy from the draft to spell the oft injured Schilens, or replace the inconsistent and mostly ineffective Johnnie Lee Higgins and Nick Miller as returner/receivers. Will Watkins remain? I'm afraid the team doesn't see the need for adding to the existing corps, but a lot can change from now until April 28th, and in camp, especially if any of our porcelain dolls go prematurely inactive.
Running Backs:
Good health and being featured and built around finally put to rest any questions we had about Darren McFadden's ability to do at this level what he did so well in school. The appropriate, "Thunder and Lightning," title of the one-two punch that is Darren and Mike Bush reminds us that we will most likely return the nucleus of the ruthless physical bully that found our rushing attack among the tops in the league for much of the season, and also provided some exciting play action from time to time. While another back is not necessarily a need going into this draft, some of the immense talent at the position is intriguing, and can offer another element of explosion in some of the guys who can be returners, and bring great hands and decent blocking ability. At the FB position, Reece will most likely be kept due to his soft hands, and for emerging as a decent lead blocker as the season moved on. Not sure we'll see Tonga remain, as the Raiders' quest for a dominant, pile-pushing lead blocker never ends. It will be interesting to see who is available to us when all is said and done. I'll leave names now to the many mocks out there. Rock Cartwright has made a name for himself on special teams and contributor as an effective plug in both running and catching, and will likely remain on the depth chart. Michael Bennett has persevered and competed and found a way to stay around, so don't be surprised if he's able to do this again though camp, but I'm expecting a new face.

Miller will remain a Raider; no doubt in my mind. Myers can continue to grow and should remain an integral part of the offense this year. There are a ton of Rob Gronkowski type guys in this draft who can do it all, and should definitely be looked at as serious additions to a dangerous offense, especially one that wishes to make physicality its cornerstone. Look no further than New England and its use of Rob, Crumpler, and Hernandez, and the fits they caused DCs throughout the league to know, young, athletic, and strong TEs allow you to bully secondaries.
The largest question on offense remains with the line, which is almost certain to be addressed with significant upgrades sooner than later. I have seen some exciting lineups occur with the prospects of some of the mock drafts we have looked at in great detail, and there are many reasons to be excited if we see even a minor upgrade. By all accounts, it is safe to expect the bully we look to build to include some significant upgrades in the offensive trenches, which is where being a physical team begins. With the right additions and subtractions, this Raider team can return to exerting its will on the best defenses in the league the way we handled the Chargers twice this year, and as should have happened against Pittsburgh, like the great lines of Raiders past did against the Purple People eaters and the Steel Curtain defenses.
The day will again come to Raider Nation when we see the exertion of our will on the best of the best in the league become the norm, and that day might be sooner than we anticipated, but this offseason is critical. We cannot repeat last year's acceptance of guys not ready for the challenge, with false confidence that proves a mistake midway through the season (guilty shall remain nameless--we, and they, know who they are). Now is the time to complete the bully puzzle.
And to you, Nation. Who's your missing link to complete the puzzle? and those we can reasonably get, of course.
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With us maybe losing Aso and Huff our secondary might suck next year
So getting a really good mean tough offense is key . We need a bad ass line and a solid passing game. I think were just missing line and veteran WR
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
we need to resign one of them
either Huff or Nnamdi.
ya or otherwise we couldnt cover anyone
give aso whatever he wants
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
hmm...
Didn’t the secondary suck last season with both of them already on the roster? I believe change is needed and keeping Miller and Bush is more important then keeping those two.
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I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
A posession receiver and a couple of scary O-Linemen.
No one likes us,
No one likes us,
We're the Raiders and we don't care...
"Darth Vader is a punk compared to Al Davis." - Hunter S Thompson
no doubt. but today's game, especially if it's an 18 game season if it happens, demands a three active back depth chart
while it’s not a need in the draft, a McCluster type guy if he becomes available, can be a nice addition, and provide the ability to jettison dead weight roster consumers we used (mostly unsuccessfully) to return punts and kicks.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
We need a 3rd option, idk about it being through the draft but adding a 3rd runner to be scared would be a huge part of building a bully.
I agree its not really a NEED but it certainly would be a key component if we added one. Mcfadden is still fairly injury prone so when he goes down for a game or two we need another change of pace back to add to Bush in those games. I look at what the Chiefs did. They have Charles, Thomas, and then they still added a 3rd really talented player in McCluster. It certainly wasnt a need but it was another dimension. If we can add a player like him that is EXTREMELY fast with good hands that can play out wide it would be a great element to add. Not as a replacement to either Bush or Mcfadden but as an extra component to our already stacked back field would add that much more to our already prolific running game. I agree with brhynno completely here and congrats on being added to the Crew!
by Marcus Allen Krause on Mar 8, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
agreed. the signing of Bennett makes things interesting
I kinda saw it coming. Does it mean we’ll skip rbs in the draft and free agency?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Offensive Line is crucial
Losing one or two guys off the line can be a major problem. It takes a lot of time, practice, even sometimes years for offensive line to gel. All those pieces need to understand their jobs thoroughly as well as the guy next to them. It should all be second nature to them. The rushing offense was excellent last year and passing offense finally came around once better protection was provided for Campbell.
Young Wiz would be a great addition, but we need Bruce Campbell to step up as well as adding some dept to our offensive line. Jared Veldheer will be a future pro-bowler, I have that much confidence in him.
i understand that our o-line wasnt the best
But we were a top rushing team with that mediocre line. Now if we could get a big physical receiver that goes up and gets the ball. Who can also break a tackle to extend 5 yd pass into a 25 yd play. I think that would benefit us more in the long run because defenses would have to stop stuffing the box against us. I think that alone would help our o-line tremendously.
by RRRRRaMON on Mar 8, 2011 1:08 AM PST via mobile reply actions
You are right,
but the coach thinks we’re ok at the receiver position.
I’m thinking, even a big slow guy would be good as insurance against Schilens getting hurt yet again.
Our run game is the best
if we look at it from the view point of potential talent and we got a glimpse of it this year with the production and explosiveness. We will probably lose another O lineman from 2010 but it will be shoes we can fill I am sure. I think our run blocking will be good BUT we need some O linemen that can manhandle pass rushers because we need to keep JC upright. IF he goes down our team will have issues with the passing game. We need some solid O lineman that’s why I say get the NE guy and there will probably be one more to had. Bring BC in to give him some reps and build him he has some potential. We could pick up a RB back but no need to blow the bank on that with McBroken and Bush and Reece in the backfield. I wish we would get a WR but it looks like that is a no go and all our eggs are in the not so capable hands of DuHB, N Miller, maybe JLH, Murphy and the surprising Ford.
Who gives a shit, who gives a fuck?
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 8, 2011 5:56 AM PST reply actions
I can't say it enough: games are won and lost in the trenches
No matter what your offensive plan, what kind of offense you use, what kind of formations, how good your skill players are, it still comes down to the OL controlling the LOS, giving RB’s holes to run through and QB’s time to find their WR’s.
Last year, a decent line helped propel the offense to new heights; improving the OL would give Campbell time to go through more progressions, and the WR’s time to break free on the long routes that they seem to be locked into.
Having such a strong running game is great, but the passing game is the key in today’s NFL; without a top-notch QB, you better have a top-notch OL. Put them both together, and you are looking at Lombardi’s…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
For those who doubt Samson Satele, the ultimate test comes for him at home this fall when Ndamukong Suh, the NFL
Defensive rookie of the year and Pro-Bowl NT comes to Oakland to stand over Samson and attempt to run over him to pancake Jason and our backs. Most NFL centers just struggled against Suh (who many of us desperately wanted for the Raiders … I was willing to trade Nnamdi for Suh (and still am). Chances are we’ll double team Suh and add a TE to the OL or keep a lone TE blocking. More on point, consider O’Dowd or Wisniewski against Suh, does anyone believe either would fair any better than Samson?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
We can't trade Nnamdi, haven't the contract and #21 is a FA. Just saying, I'd trade anyone on the Raiders - including Darren
for Suh. There is nothing so pleasing as a Dominant Defender who consistently rag-dolls opponents and causes ball-security incontinence.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 8, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
I think a lot are with you. Dunno about Detroit...
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Detroit wouldnt give up Suh for any player in the league, except Peyton, or Rodgers, or Brady and we can all agree that wont happen.
Id be willing to trade anybody for him except i cant give up Mcfadden. I love Suh more than any defensive player in the whole league, but Mcfadden is just too valuable to us. besides it would take Mcfadden AND a first rounder to get Suh from Detroit. I just cant trade a top 3 running back in the league.
by Marcus Allen Krause on Mar 8, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
no, but Mike Pouncey's the best bet I'd say, though the verdict's not in on Samson
and I’ll hope he can come around. I say there’s no question we keep him, but wouldn’t mind it if someone came in and pushed him for a starting spot.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Not a true comparison
For an elite defender such as Suh (even as raw as he still is), even top players might need help. That Satele would, just as Mawae or Kalil might, doesn’t put him on the same level as them. Logically, it then extends that another player that needs help against Suh could still be better than Satele, yet still need the help.
A better question would be whether people think that O’Dowd or Wisniewski would need help/fare better against players/teams that Satele struggled against? Teams like Miami, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Houston, San Francisco, and Indianapolis, which were all able to stifle the running game.
Please note that I am not laying all the blame for those games at Satele’s feet; I simply think that he is not big enough to fit the power running scheme that we are phasing into, but I have never questioned his heart. He may be a decent backup, but I feel that he is not best suited for this scheme, and would therefore prefer to upgrade.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
if we had stronger guards
then Satele would also be a better center.
Carslie is not a power blocking guard, and Gallery was and still is overrated, (Hell, Mario beat him out at Left Tackle).
good point
about Carlisle as well.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Satele I think will be fine with
a more power blocking guard tandem. I was definately impressed on how many times he pulled and got out in space lead blocking for big gains. When we play 3-4 defenses the playcalling is going to influence everything. But traps and off tackles runs are our bread and butter. which Satele handles his own pretty good.
by Still-a-Raider on Mar 9, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Agree. Satele took NT pressure really well after Veldheer moved to OT and Samson hussled his ass off, often 30 yards
down field helping DMC get big gains.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 9, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Love that about him
And the ability to get to the second level is crucial in power blocking. I’m all for Samson holding the position, but would like a lineman who can play multiple positions, and bring experience at center.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Like Marcus Cannon perhaps?
he’d be perfect for our O-line as he can play either position on the right side. Not sure if he could back up center though, or if we’d need him to.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Anticipating a run at tackle could find him taken when we pick
Too early to say, but I’ll be watching. Contingency plan?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Best draft pick was
Mr. J. Ford, most important turned out to be Mr. Vehldeer.
Mr. Houston, I honestly believe will have a pro-bowl season.
Mr. McClain will have an outstanding season, but I expect it to be unheralded.
as for the DBs Mr. Brown, Mr. Ware, & Mr. McFadden; I hope they are hitting the weight room, swimming pool, hills & steps as they are going to be playing more minutes in a football season than they ever have. Mr. Brown will end up being the best FS since Polemolicules & Woodson.
Mr. Goethel I think will be even better than we hoped.
this years draft class will have challenge to uphold and maintain.
I know we need O-Line help; but if Wisniewski, Hudson, or Cannon are already drafted Raiders need to draft Paea, Raiders would have the most dominant D-Line for years to come.
I've wondered whether Travis Goethel could move to Will. I don't wonder, though, that he will be better than Groves, only whether
he will obviate any need to draft an OLB. Trevor Scott played both weak-side LB and DE and with nobody backing Houston, I expect Scott to remain at LDE.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 8, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
yes lets draft a player at the strongest position on our team with our first pick
or we could draft a player at a position of need
by RyanTheRaider on Mar 8, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
you say that very condescendingly RyanTheRaider but both teams that were in the super bowl this past year both draft by strongest player available
Both the packers and steelers would do that very thing.
by Marcus Allen Krause on Mar 8, 2011 1:58 PM PST reply actions
This is a tricky response....
but here goes. I voted WR. I know most of you voted O line, and that is a great vote too. But here is why I voted for the WR over the O line. Yes, I know if your QB doesn’t have time he can’t throw to the WRs. Valid point. But did the Raiders not have the #9 Offense with the shaky O line? They were able to run the ball VERY effectively in most games. And there were some times where the QBs had days to throw, but came up with nothing. So now to examine the other side of the argument. If there were an improvement in the WR, there leaves a fair assumption that the D would not be able to key on the run as we saw in Pitt, Mia, and SF. The opposition would have to respect the pass too, which makes a team all that much more dangerous. If a defense has no idea what is coming (run or pass), the chances of stopping the play are drastically reduced. Defensive safeties have to play back off the ball more and this opens up your running game too. Sure both areas COULD be upgraded, no doubt. Sure the WRs are young and may not need to be replaced to become an “upgrade”. Murphy, and Ford are upcoming, but DHB is a serious liability. Yes there are more holes to fill on the O line… But upgrading the O line doesn’t necessarily equate to more first downs, thusly more points. Having a good O line and not a good passing game still leaves the O one dimensional. Having a good passing game (which needs better WR) would give the O line a break (pulling one or two out of the box) on both passing and running plays, thusly making the line better.
Those are my thoughts. If preferred, I say upgrade both. But if it were that easy, every team would do it.
No question we need a lock possession WR the question is how to get him. I prefer FA to the draft for the same reason as QB
higher probability of success and reduced learning curve.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 8, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not gonna fight you on this at all
we need a guy. I’m not certain the organization will go in that direction, but we need one. We can’t keep waiting for Schilens to stay healthy, and no other guy has really emerged besides Jacoby last year and Murphy the prior year. We also know DHB is still on the roster for the year, so it puts in question why we remain with a collection of guys that hasn’t even found the semblance of a corps, and is consistently outperformed by our running backs and tight ends.
I don’t see the remotest possibility of the team using any of our first picks, but expect us to get a guy to help out in the return game, that will likely possess the size, speed, and athleticism that Al covets, either via draft, or in an interesting offseason move acquiring a guy nobody sees coming.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
The Raiders Linebacking is far from living up to the Bully promise. With the exception of McClain who occasionally t
takes some aggression out on the smallest player he can find, we don’t have imposing LBs. Sure Wimbley is a good pass rusher, but to gain respect, a LB corps has to be tough against the rush and let’s be honest – we are not. So, the poll left out what I consider the most crucial step we could take in realizing Hue’s dream to dominate – by improving our 2nd Row. 2nd place is the OL, but with monsters like we already have, it’s more a question of shifting them around and teaching them how to pass block; they do a good job rush blocking already.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
Defensive version to follow, with emphasis on the lb weakness
as is, our olbs aren’t even capable of playing the position. Our best guys are our Mike guys, and perhaps need to moved outside, leaving us thin in the middle.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Nice Write Up Brhynno !!!
First I must say, not to happy with the hiring of Chuckie 2, but if Hue likes what he’s saying, who am I to question !!! I’m just glad Rod is here !!! Long as StuperMario is on 2nd string, I can live with that. For some reason he played better coming in, vesus starting, prefer him on the right side, though !!! Say the brueprint for the draft was one of the Mocks posted(Screwfish’s addressed our needs the most, IMO) I think we still need to bring in 2 EXPERIENCE lineman !!! If we follow the mocks, the possibilty of two, 2nd year players and a rookie, and a big ? for the other 2 !!! How long would that last would be the question, unless we get EXTREMELY LUCKY !!! Gallery’s gone, along with the most experience !!! Would’nt want to go into the season short handed on lineman, considering we know what’s capable coming out the backfield !!!
I'd have to say you are correct about the line, Papa
Especially since we are not moving up into range of the best tackle’s pool. It’s more realistic to think the Costanzos might actually start effectively, especially on a line that’s completely new as a unit.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

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