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I Hereby Nominate Gary Horton of Scouts Inc. for Worst Raiders Analysis

Most of us like to rip on the main stream media when their analysis on the Raiders is more a verbal spewage of ignorance, stupidity and/or hate. It is a fun little hobby. But let's face it—most of the time it is just nit-picking. They are what they are. They are mainstream and we are not. We are the Raider Nation. We are supposed to know way more about the Raiders than they do. We are supposed to think outsiders hate us. That's what makes us a happy little family. 

Often times these members of the "MSM" are cultivating our hate just to be provocative—the Raiders will always be a target for that. Other times the mistakes come from just an understandable lack of in-depth knowledge. Normally, the swing and miss opinions of the Raiders warrants only a passing comment here and there. Then there are other times, like the one I am about to present, that are so prolifically comical a full post is needed. 

Below is my nomination for worst Raider analysis of this offseason. Feel free to present your own candidates if you can find one more laughable.

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Gary Horton of Scouts Inc., which is connected to ESPN, released a recent summary on the Raiders needs. It is so lazy and haphazard I am amazed it was printed. I assume that for Senor Horton covering the NFL is a full-time job. And let me tell you; he either does not know football at all, or he just mailed this one in. Either way, how does this guy have his job?  

Check out his list of the Raiders needs. He starts off with cornerback as the number one need and guard/center as the second. 

Sure the Raiders need another corner, but does a starting combo of Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson warrant a bigger need than a starting duo of Daniel Loper and Cooper Carlisle at guard, which is what it would likely currently be with the roster the way it is now? I think not, but that complaint falls more under the nit-picking category. Don't worry it gets better...or actually worse, I guess.

He lists QB third. Yes, the Raiders could use a QB of the future, but that hardly makes it the third need. What team couldn't use another quality QB? This moves Horton more to the mailing it in category.

Then he has tight end fourth, which isn't an appalling placement of the tight end need, but he has offensive tackle fifth. What kind of sick joke is this? Zach Miller is almost certainly coming back, and he is a way, way, way stronger starting option than Langston Walker at tackle, who by the way is also a free agent. Sure they could use better blocking depth at tight end, but that blocking wouldn't be as needed if they had better tackle play. I don't know how you view the Raiders roster, see they only have one tackle under contract and a whole pile of fail at the position in 2010 and list that as the fifth need.

But he saves the best for last. He lists defensive tackle as the sixth need. Here is his reasoning:

"This was a poor interior run defense in 2010 and they struggled to hold up physically. Starters Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly are coming off decent seasons, but age is a factor with Seymour, Kelly gets pushed around too much and the backups are nondescript."

The Raiders run defense was poor, but not on the interior. I could pull out some numbers, but I trust if you are reading this you know more about the Raiders then this poor excuse for a NFL expert. Seymour and Kelly are coming off decent years...you know if you consider making the Pro Bowl decent.

Still, the worst part about this statement is about the nondescript backups. Since when is John Henderson nondescript? Sure he has injury concerns, but he proved he is far from nondescript. The Raiders also increasingly moved LaMarr Houston to tackle as the season progressed, and Desmond Bryant is a rock solid fifth defensive tackle option. I'd say defensive tackle is the deepest position on the team. Running back is close, but given that Michael Bush isn't currently under contract I give the edge to DT.

Gary Horton, Failure. Failure, Gary Horton.

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i think our biggest need is RT. DT is the last thing we need,besides special teamers.

by RyanTheRaider on Apr 22, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

they just keep stoking the fire

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by brhynno on Apr 22, 2011 4:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

his guy's got to be connected through birth or marriage

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 22, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha damn nepotism

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by Rich Langford on Apr 22, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there ever

good, or fair and balanced analysis when it comes to the Raiders?

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Apr 22, 2011 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Kiper still gets my vote

The guy’s a clown who, when his mouth opens, random Raider cliches spew forth. In my 25(ish) years of watching the NFL and the Raiders, Gruden verbally bitch slapping him down live on the draft coverage ranks among my all time top 5 Raider plays. ;)

Kick their ass and take their stuff!

by AllyRdr on Apr 22, 2011 11:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Not ENTIRELY wrong with DT

Based on the age of Seymour and Henderson, and whether or not Houston moves inside, it is a long-range need, similar to QB. If Houston stays at DE, then it becomes something to look at for more depth; if he moves in more, then DE becomes something to look at, again for additional depth. (assuming that Scott continues to make the move to LB)

I would think that OT/G would be listed at the top; at least there are players at DB, even if they are not particularly accomplished. Bringing in one or two would be a good thing.

TE is a need, not because of any deficiencies of Miller, but because the TE is the leading receiver in this offense for the last few years, Miller has had some injury issues (nothing serious, luckily), and neither of the backups have notable receiving skills. Plus, it would allow for two TE sets to open up the passing game. Not a glaring need, but it is a bit of a gamble to not address it at all.

Personally, my list of needs:

1) OL (this depends on what the coaches think of what they have, but there isn’t any way in hell that I am comfortable with Carlisle on the field, not that happy with Satele, and there is a huge hole at RT; perhaps they feel that Campbell is ready to step into either the G or T spot) draft and free agent need

2) DB (as stated above – Johnson struggled last year and would be the starter now should Asomugha leave, and the projected backups did not impress in limited play) draft and/or free agent

3) OLB (this is my opinion, the staff may see it differently, and be willing to let Groves develop for another year. I’d be fine with bringing in Morrison as an OLB; it doesn’t have to be filled from the draft, IMO) free agent

4) TE (explained above) draft or free agent, lean towards FA

5) WR (this may surprise some, but the WR is pretty unreliable for the most part; Ford looked good last year, but that doesn’t always translate to further success; DHB is still a non-factor; Schilens has a definite injury history; Murphy was inconsistent last year… very little production, which is unacceptable in the type of offense that Hue wants to build) free agent

6) S (no surprise here, I would think, given the play last year; I know that the system doesn’t necessarily help the position, but there was plenty of miscues that didn’t come from the system) draft or free agent, lean towards draft

7) DL (as stated above, it is not an immediate need, but one that will be in just a year or two; better to look at now, in the lower rounds of the draft or in FA than to ignore and let become a problem later) draft or free agent, lean towards draft

7) QB (there isn’t a team in the NFL that wouldn’t like to have more or better depth at this position; it is pretty much a given that it is a need for every team, but not in the top rounds, we can look for a player to either develop/be a backup and wait for the opportunity in the next few years to grab a franchise-type QB… it isn’t as though those guys aren’t seen in EVERY draft, EVERY year) draft or free agent

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by signcut on Apr 23, 2011 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

crap.. 2 #7's... lol

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Apr 23, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's OK we have two picks in the seventh

so you can have two #7’s

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on Apr 23, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another Tool Of the Establishment !!!!!

Conspiracy of Hate and Ignorance, against the “True Nation” !!!! FUCKEM !!! FUCKEM ALL !!!!!

by papabegood on Apr 23, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Anthony Hopkins Quote from the movie "Legnds Of The Fall"

It was on as I was commenting on this drabble of a Scouting Report, and seemed quite appropriate !!!!!

by papabegood on Apr 23, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suspect Horton's basing his list on positions held by players Raiders have brough in for workouts - DE, NT, TE, QB, CB, OT

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 24, 2011 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

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