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NFL Draft 2011 Results: The Oakland Raiders Saturday Evening Recap of Selections. A Nation Divided?

RAIDERS 2011 DRAFT PICKS

RoundPickPlayerPosition
2 16 (48) Wisniewski, Stefen  OL
 
3 17 (81) Van Dyke, Demarcus  DB
 
3 28 (92) Barksdale, Joseph  OL
(From Patriots)
4 16 (113) Chekwa, Chimdi  DB
 
4 28 (125) Jones, Taiwan  RB
(From Patriots)
5 17 (148) Moore, Denarius  WR
 
6 16 (181) Gordon, Richard  TE
 
7 38 (241) Ausberry, David  WR
(Compensatory Selection)

I last posted on the many uncertainties in this, the 2011 NFL Draft, inherent with Al Davis, our Oakland Raiders, new coach Hue Jackson and the implications of the lockout getting lifted and work ordered to resume only to be summarily ordered to stop again per the stay granted the NFL owners from the appeals court. An overwhelming poll result said Wisniewski would be the likeliest Raider amongst our pre-draft discussions and was correct--no big surprise given that almost everyone was saying it. It wasn't, however, the sexy, vanity pick of the group we all imagined. I do believe Demarcus Van Dyke was predicted by many as the more likely guy over the very popular Buster Skrines in our mocks, and he fits that track star description pundits continue to accurately prognosticate as Al's picks. Obviously with all the uncertainty, there are some things we know about the Raiders that always ring true. As it turns out, we were way off on a few things as well. One could argue as much energy was spent prospecting OLBs and though I was among voices screaming it remains a weakness for us, a few of us, including noontide who left no stone unturned, had reservations the organization was not so in agreement--at least as far as the draft is concerned.

While I won't grade the draft here, I will poll us to see how we feel we emerged this time around, and take a brief look at each pick with projections on how they might fit the 2011 Oakland Raiders, or if they'll be the next Stryker Sulaks and Slade Norris's that don't ultimately make the cut. At the end of the day, whether we like the picks or not, the true measure of their worth will be in their ability to make the roster or lack thereof.

You know the drill: hit the jump to read on!

Star-divide

Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn St., 6'3, 313. 22

What a way to start. Jackson has already made statements to indicate he'll be the center. A year ago, Saint, Sons, and Spirals heard Satele get the nod of approval from none other than Jim Otto. This looks to mean he'll be kicked out to Guard, as some of us speculated in determining the young Wiz' compatibility with us. It seems a perfect natural fit. The only real digs on him are lacking the ideal lower body strength to excel at this level, but his motor and how he approaches the game in Wisniewski fashion and finishes plays make it likely he'll be a missing link for our offensive front. Read here on noontide's BREAKDOWN OF WIZ

I was ecstatic with this first pick, as I believe most of the Nation is, but some might've had Ben Ijalana ahead of Wiz on their boards. The bloodline alone is enough reason in my book to make this a better decision. I can see Stefen doing a fine job of getting to the second level springing some long ones for McFadden and Bush, and bolstering the pass blocking by bringing what a great center can bring to a solid pass blocking unit. This also frees up Satele to move to Guard, where he'll be an immediate improvement over Cooper Carlisle, and a nice replacement to Gallery. This bully just got meaner right up front, where opponents will attempt to punch us in the nose; this should help us to do more of the punching in the opponents' mouths.

Here's a link to a video from Raiders.com with Jim Otto regarding our 48th overall: OTTO ON WIZ

Demarcus Van Dyke, CB,6'1", 176. Miami

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...this is the sexy pick and the burner. A few of us were pretty vocal about Buster Skrines, while a couple others said it would be this guy. None of us likes the implications taking multiple defensive backs has on the Nnamdi situation, but crying Chicken Little at this junction makes little sense. Still, the worse news we've gotten since the draft began was that the lifting of the lockout would be short-lived and that these guys won't be coming to the facilities Monday. My biggest dig on the guy is his weight. Will he immediately return for us? How does this guy figure into our secondary? Here's noontide's recent BREAKDOWN ON DVD. A 4.28 40???? Like it or not, one thing is for sure: the greatest D backs in history, one of whom is our cornerbacks coach, was among the fastest guys to play the game as well. We also know Al loves his defensive backs. So this one got this pick out of the way, right? I'm among about a nine percent majority that approves the pick, for now, with big expectations on our second overall...

Overall, again, the biggest problem I have with this pick is that there are myriad other guys I'd have taken there, namely, a game changing OLB, but again, if the organization isn't on the same page with a lot of us here regarding the position, we're crying over spilled milk. I'll remain hopeful that something has been going on and Al and Hue know of a certain free agent who will return. I hope it doesn't indicate we feel we are good at Will and Sam entering the season.

Joseph Barksdale, OT, 6'5", 325, LSU.

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As I read from someone here ealier today, he does look like a younger Langston Walker. This 28th overall pick in the third from the Patriots at 92 is my second favorite pick to Wisniewski. A big strong kid that lots of mocks had us taking with our first pick or even second one in the third round, big Joe rounded out my wish to come away with at least two lineman, and also attempted to address it with a guy who can perhaps make a bid for the RT spot. The first blurb in noontide's BREAKDOWN ON BIG JOE highlights a major concern on his ability to pass block. If he's a step slow at times in college, things don't look promising for him in this league. I believe we'll ultimately have to kick him inside, and he at the least provides depth at the RT spot, and might figure to be a solid guard in the future. I'm still a little bummed we didn't go after Cannon with a later pick, and that NE did, but we'll need guys right away. I am happy that NE's moves make it probable some of their talent up front becomes free agent talent that I hope we consider for real. It looks as though we're now checking in about 65 % approval on this pick. While it may not thrill many folks, there's really not much to hate about the pick or the kid. I look forward to seeing what he brings to the table, and hope to see some action in camp and preseason. Let's hope this kid's work ethic is a little more like the more recent Tiger to join our team... Hey Sons, what was his caveat index???? never mind. I don't wanna know...

Chimdi Chekwa, 6'0", 190, CB, Ohio St.

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Is it me, or does he look high right here? Nice mug shot, bro! Gotta collect myself here... Well it appears I'm in the minority who disapproves with this one, namely for my questions in his ability to man up. His resume does however make him look like a nice nickel back, perhaps against multiple receiver sets and slot guys, and in dimes maybe as an additional cover safety. Here's noontide's BREAKDOWN ON CHIMDI

What can I say when his scouting reports are filled with: "can be.... gets a bit this.... too high... is blank but..." And the kicker: "will be overdrafted because of his size/speed numbers."

Touche. Done talking about this guy for now. Let's just say I find moderate solace in that we have more picks than I anticipated we would, and we already got our two blockers. I said I'd be happy if we got two blockers and addressed the OLB spot...something to help with that inability to stop the run with any consistency. We will eventually do that, right? or will we...

Taiwan Jones, 6'0" 198, RB Eastern Washington

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Interestingly enough, the discussion here on noontide's BREAKDOWN ON TAIWAN turns quickly to a discussion about how this pick probably could've better been an OLB to help out with this perceived notion we have here that our guys can't stop the run. It ultimately settles on how this speedy, soft-handed addition to our already prolific offense will create matchup problems and be a nice spell RB and that our improved offense and our defensive line gelling and improving will help the rush defense. Okay... not sure I'm buying what they're selling there, but I like how we don't get all sour grapey when we find ourselves to be wrong about the organization's decisions, and somehow find a positive and a reason to believe they did good. Also, I'm with the voices who say there's not too much of anyone else we desperately wanted (OLB being the exception, any OLB!), and that some had this kid valued much higher than late fourth. I also kinda relegated myself to the possiblity when someone here posted on his workout, and how he ran sub 4.3. Okay. I voted approved, and we're just under 70% there. I must admit, I am a bit puzzled, as the signings of Cartwright and Bennett, the likely return of Michael Bush and recent addition of Rankin back to the practice squad, whom I believe fits nicely in Hue's offense as depth, and of course the studly DMac. I guess you can't really wait until the late rounds to take the fastest guys if you want 'em. Moving on...

Denarius Moore, 6'0" 194, WR, Tennessee

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Okay, I knew we'd have some sprinters drafted, but didn't think we'd get a relay team in the first six picks. At least the other two are linemen. Hate on Mayock for yelling "height, weight, speed..." when the Oakland Raiders are mentioned all you want, but he might be onto something considering these guys are all within five pounds of each other, right around six feet, and run in the low 4.3s. Here's noontide's BREAKDOWN ON MOORE. The numbers don't lie, and this is why these four picks--though a majority of us remarkably approved of them all--leave an odd taste in our mouths. It does appear that most of us, despite that familiar bad taste, are prepared to back up Hue Jackson. It might just be that we don't wish to believe he is the latest Al Davis lackey. At any rate, it's too early to say, and I'm not one to project doom and gloom until it's manifested itself on the field. The positive is, we're getting into later picks here, and we also know we need help at the WR spot. It's no longer prudent to believe Chaz will ever remain healthy for an entire season, and this guy, limitations and all, might just figure a nice third option, both lined up slot, and maybe in motion. I like the size, but would have preferred someone who fit the possession receiver mold a little better. All in all, though, I'm okay with this pick. We certainly are no longer starved for returners after Ford, and there's no danger of a backup FB having to perform those duties. He's currently looking about 60% approved here by voters; let's hope it's not because the poll listed the last name of a guy and made voters think it was a misspelling of his first name (I'm kidding, of course!).

Richard Gordon, 6'4", 266. TE, Miami.

Here's a link to noontide's BREAKDOWN ON GORDON and a link to an AP article on Mercury news: LINK.

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I love this pick. It's another blocker to help this bully establish dominance and exertion of our offensive will on opponents. Kinda looks like Lawrence Taylor in the pic: a little intimidating and kinda says 'bully,' huh? We have our nice balanced, excellent pass-catching TE in Miller, and this guy will add a nice addition to the other side and in jumbo formations. While noontide mentioned he can replace Khalif, I can envision him being used in addition to Khalif in those three tight end jumbo sets in short yardage, and I can imagine us being stronger with the influx of line talent as well. Excited about the group of blockers up front. I believe this draft is a home run alone in that we addressed the most glaring weakness we have in O line. Barely a majority in approval of this pick; I'm less critical of the later ones (still want a certain lb! there's a few on the board!). 

Final pick 241st overall:

David Ausberry, 6'3, 235, WR, USC

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Here's a link to noontide's BREAKDOWN ON AUSBERRY . A small linebacker-sized wideout... hmmm, but what Raider draft is complete without a Trojan? This guy fits the big flanker I talked about in my visions for Hue Jackson's bully--a big body that could act as almost a TE on the flanks, but he's just a few picks away from Mr. irrelevant, and on a deep Trojan roster, saw little action on the NFL's thirty-third squad. Maybe we'll be surprised to see him get any action at all. What do you project for our WR corps this year? Will Murphy emerge as a dominant force? Will Ford get even better? Who will round out our top three, and what will the depth chart look like? Are Johnnie Lee Higgins, Nick Miller, and Todd Watkins finally gone? How about guys named Shaun Bodiford and Damola Adenji? Relegated to practice squad? And does Darrius Heyward-Bey finally earn a rightful roster spot, or do we keep throwing him a bone and wasting it?

I was quite surprised to hear some say that WR isn't a need for us. While I believe in the young talent, the presence of an actual corps has been missing here for quite some time. I hope a few of these guys can prove to be steals and a true corps emerges.

Once again, not happy without an OLB, but I'm remaining hopeful for whatever this season will bring, and am for the moment, trusting the organization to be more right about the linebackers than we speculate. I have no doubt Biekert will have the guys at least playing smarter and making much fewer mistakes, and by midseason to be making plays they weren't before with increased field awareness and ability to quickly read and react. They must learn to work together as well. I'd have to say, I am pleased about the help for the O line, but remain pretty ambivalent about the rest of the draft thus far. Could've been better, could've been worse. Still puzzled about no linebackers, but we will know if that was the right thing to do or not sooner than later, and free agency awaits. I can see it being possible that none of the crop was suitable for the organization, and that we might have our eyes on free agents. At least I hold out hope for the possiblity.

Be sure to check out the video interviews on Raiders.com. All players and coach Jackson weigh in on it all.

Here's a link to Raiders.com Draft Central, for more info: LINK

Raiders Draft History

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Preliminary grades on this year's crop?
A
53 votes
B
356 votes
C
340 votes
D
86 votes
F
31 votes

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Not sold on Chekwa and Gordon

The others look like solid “footbal players”
Gordon is either going to be the biggest surprise of the draft or just another wasted pick.
Chekwa is fast and that is about it.

by R8rnation on Apr 30, 2011 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I like the title

A Nation Divided. So true right now

by DarknBlack on Apr 30, 2011 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

This draft was meh.

Good picks, bad picks. We needed an OLB HORRIBLY.

In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Apr 30, 2011 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

FA???

Every man for himself...

by MMunoz33 on Apr 30, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

WTF? really WTF? I’m praying we’ve got something going with some key FA.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

there are some good FA OLB's

Chad greenway would be nice.

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Apr 30, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

huge

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

We keep saying his name

but why did 32 teams pass on him over and over again?

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Apr 30, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The leg must be a bigger question than we think

understandable. it’s often the medicals that make guys undraftable.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

because he is slow

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Apr 30, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The roster looks like another 8-8 finish once again (assuming Nnamdi, Huff, Gallery, Henderson, Thomas Howard are gone), but

I’m excited to get back to Raiders football under Hue Jackson, and see what he can get out of these guys…

If it’s worse than 8-8 I hope we land Andrew Luck…

Every man for himself...

by MMunoz33 on Apr 30, 2011 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I like the draft and I gave it a B

I think our perception of the quality of our draft is distorted by the fact we had no number one pick and I do thing our draft round 2 onwards is any worse than last years.
I love Wizzy and Barksdale and I think DvD has unlimited upside and Chekwa is a possible steal being an experienced starter for Ohio state. My favourite pick is actually Taiwan Jones as our running game is the heart and soul of our offence and having Jones takes a little pressure off of D-mac and his injuries and means that if he is out we don’t loose half of our playbook with him.

Stressing about unfilled needs like OLB (although I think they like Goethel anyway, as do i) is dumb as we still have free agency to come.

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Apr 30, 2011 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I had to grade B also, just for the linemen

About others I feel we did well value wise. I’m trusting Hue means what he says when discussing how they fit for us, and it’s not just lip service.

But when you address the biggest weakness first and foremost, and with two of your top four picks, you did pretty good. Nobody was a big reach,either. Good job of staying patient day 1, and getting extra picks this time around.

Looking forward to see what TJ can bring. Getting to need a stable of backs anymore.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The prescence and influence of OC Saunders is showing it's effect. On the other side, our DC seems grateful to even be here

and by contrast with Saunders demonstrated during this draft that he has no influence and, one can deduce, will be a puppet DC. Our rush defense has been 29th in the league two years in succession and the draft responds with two CB (one of whom is emaciated).

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I haven't drawn any concrete conclusions yet

but the words from Otto regarding the lbs was disconcerting to say the least.

It’s true, they need to do their job, but is firing not in order when one is incapable? or when they’re in the wrong role and skill sets dictate they are something else, is it not the right thing to do do reassign jobs?

I’m also concerned this further indicates Bres was brought back for his lack of spine.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

well in that case last time Bresh was Al's puppet we made the superbowl

just sayin.

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Apr 30, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Al is running this Defense like he did then. Hue and Saunders, will Al's blessing and heavy hand, are building the Bully

on the other side of the ball. That’s what threw me, I was expecting the ‘Bully’ to materialize in building the 2nd and 3rd Defensive rows when all the time Hue envisioned a Bully offense … I have seen the light.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You say that like it's a bad thing.

We destroyed the Donkeys last year with a bully offense. If we can do that consistently…

Someday you will find me, caught beneath the landslide, in a champagne supernova in the sky.
This day will be when the Raiders win a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

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by Screwfish on Apr 30, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just adjusting to the concept of being a Bully without having a dominant rush defense. Until today, I'd never

considered that as a possibility … as an absurd contradiction it wouldn’t have occurred to me

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only part of us that isn't a bully yet

is the rush D.

Someday you will find me, caught beneath the landslide, in a champagne supernova in the sky.
This day will be when the Raiders win a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

Follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/#!/_SLS_

by Screwfish on Apr 30, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn't we lead the league in sacks last year?

i’m confused

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Apr 30, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd in Sacks and 29th against the Rush ... our passing defense benefited from our excellent DL & weak 2nd Row

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

McLain, Kam and Goethal will be better again this season especially Ro

so there will be significant natural progression in those guys and we have other guys like Brown and Howard (if he is back) that can hold down a spot for a season.

Having said that it is probably the number one position I would like to see addressed in free agency.

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Apr 30, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is now for sure

I’d still like to see us pick up Herzlich, we could get him cheap now and let him sit, learn and heal. He will be faster when completely healed and play recognition and reaction time show a lot more than a 40 time.

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on May 1, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the run D showed flashes of sheer dominance

They just need to pretend every opponent is one of their AFC West bitches!

I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo

by Rich Langford on Apr 30, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry Bryhnno! I just doubled up your post!

I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo

by Rich Langford on Apr 30, 2011 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha ha! No worries! the more the merrier, right!

I used your links on the breakdowns. Nice coverage the past few days.

I’m not floating on a cloud like last year, but I’m not mad. A little more excited for free agency and the final roster tho.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would've been nice to have a first-round pick

I think I feel about the same as you. I just remembered you told me you were going to do this do. Nice job. The draft craziness has pushed my brain out of my earhole!

I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo

by Rich Langford on Apr 30, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh heh

You put in lot work on these draft pick posts. Nice work as always, Noon. Thanks for the breakdowns.

by rightnasty on Apr 30, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Gordon's pic! That dude looks like a blocking TE if I ever saw one

I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo

by Rich Langford on Apr 30, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

no doubt! that's a great pic

like LT and mean Joe Greene… just a familiarity of someone I can’t place, but I’m sure it’s those old NFL films guys.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just has the "Raider" look

You know the dude will kick some ass

by Raaddad on May 1, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Richard Gordon

Looks like he could play B.A. Baracas in an A-Team sequel movie. Damn, he looks like the love child of Rampage Jackson and Kimbo Slice.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Apr 30, 2011 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

That might be it! lmao!

rockin the nappy beard.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Convert him to OLB; anyone looking that hard must have something going

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The JaMarcus sneer

Barksdale from LSU has a striking resemblence to J. Marc. LSU and all.

by John Will on Apr 30, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

This.

Barksdale actually speaks a language other human beings can understand.

Plus, he actually plays the right position for a dude his size.

Someday you will find me, caught beneath the landslide, in a champagne supernova in the sky.
This day will be when the Raiders win a Super Bowl in my lifetime.

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by Screwfish on Apr 30, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish we just took an OLB in the 3rd.

To many good ones to pass up on and we just did that. I truely believe that if we just picked on good OLB we still would have all of those guys minus Ausberry. We could of went from what I thought was a D grade draft to easily a B grade.

by pbwulf on Apr 30, 2011 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

A Lot

of UFA linebackers. If the CBA ever gets worked out I’m sure we will bring in a few to work out.

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Apr 30, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great read, Brhynno.

Now that I stepped away from the draft for a minute words have regained meaning. I was one of the people you mentioned that had Ijalana over Wisniewski. Maybe it is just because he is a Raider now, but I am happy we landed Wiz. The potential of Ijalana at tackle was what had me, but I like the feeling of have a great center on the roster again. It’s been a long time. The Raiders fell apart once their last great center fell apart.

I agree about Barkdale maybe being better suited for the interior, but I am hoping he gets a fire lit under him and gets to movin those feet! We now have Bruce Campbell and Barkdale and you hope one can take over the T spot and the other guard. If that happens, this line is set for a long, long, time. And for the short term if the Raiders could re-sign Walker or a better RT I would feel mucho better!

I hope this temporary stay doesn’t turn into a permanent one! I want free agency to start! I want football!

I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo

by Rich Langford on Apr 30, 2011 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

The Picks ...

I like them all, sure they may have been able to take a different guy here and there, but it seems that there was some good planning and discipline in the picking of these guys. And, given last years draft positives, I’m taking a wait and see approach to who factually steps up. I’ve noticed over the years that when the team has a positive aura about it, as it does now due to last season’s continued improvement and mounting stability, there seems to be a greater level of success achieved by those drafted. In other words … the better the play and locker room presence existing on a team, the better the ability-to-succeed-rate for the rookies. However … as we all know … excitement over anything right now is badly tempered with the continuing labor issues. We need progress … GO RAIDERS!!!

by VJH5404 on Apr 30, 2011 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I think you can accuse them of being track stars all you want, and be right about them

but these guys can play ball too. It’s just a question if they can hone their game to fit this team at the next level. I can’t wait to see what the coaches and the nucleus can do for them. It’s a good environment to come into right now. I’d be excited as hell to be a Raider rookie right now, and I’d want to prove a lot of Kipers and McShays wrong about a few things said…

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on May 1, 2011 12:33 AM PDT reply actions  

We can only hope that these kids

will be more Jacoby Ford like, than DHB like. I’m all for track stars that can actually play football. Speed is an awesome weapon that can’t be taught, but it has to be combined with football skill.

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on May 1, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

A banality that bears repeating

Enjoyed the 2nd day of the draft at Ricky’s with you and your brother. The missing piece for the 2nd row notwithstanding, the draft is a solid B to B+ imo

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 1, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I'd say the prediction of 4 starters outta here at some point this season is more likely than not

I never questioned for a second that Hue didn’t see each and every one of these kids fitting into this team like he said, and the more I examine them, the more I like the way they fit.

Look forward to meeting Rambis this season. Our community is growing more connected and stronger every day. We’ll have some amazing times this season, for sure.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on May 1, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was great hanging out with you and Spirals at Rickeys

 I had a blast and look forward to doing it again sometime.
Yeah, I was disappointed that we didn’t draft Sands and Herzlich or Mathews especially since we had a shot at each and passed, and in Herzlichs case passed and passed some more. I’d still give the draft a B and will still hope we sign Herzlich as a UFA, whenever the damned lockout is ended.

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on May 1, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chekwa pick

by itself is not the end of the world, it’s simply not addressing our OLB need with that pick. I can only attempt to think that both KJ Wright and Colin McCarthy were the designated OLB pick at that spot, once taken, they went for Chekwa. If, again the elusive if, Huff leaves and he can play FS, the pick works. The fact that Herzlich was not picked by any team illustrates that at 4.95, he’s not NFL ready. As UFA, it’s a no brainer. Overall, it’s a B graded draft as we addressed our biggest needs without a 1st rd pick. Wiz brings flexibility in positions and will start at center, DVD has that game breaker speed, and Barksdale brings competition at a needed spot. Before we all go in panic mode about our track team, the biggest revelation last year was in fact an undersized track star who was overlooked in his own team – Jacoby. Hence, re-inforcing AD’s commitment to speed. Lastly, as mentioned over the last weeks, 5th rd on is where you reach and take on development players with upside, not necessarily where you pick immediate impact players.

by raiders4liffe on May 1, 2011 3:56 AM PDT reply actions  

good synopsis

i grow more comfortable with the guys the more I learn. These are some ballers. will they fit? remains to be seen, but I like the odds.

Definitely added some weapons to the arsenal. And no question we’re the fastest team around now. Love the lineman, and the blocking TE. The others, including Chekwa, are growing on me.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on May 1, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's why we have

training camp – who’s who, what’s what, who’s playing, who’s getting cut. Contracts will sort itself out but wearing game jerseys and play time must be earn on the field not based on your draft order or contract. It’s a passing game and Nnamdi and Huff appear gone, priority to address in conjunction with the OL. Our run D, however, wasn’t addressed in the draft; hence, it must get addressed with FA. We discussed Gaither (sp) from Baltimore extensively last summer, that type of FA pick up in addition to re-signing Mario would legitimize our line.

by raiders4liffe on May 1, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know it's getting tired but, I still think Nnamdi stays

I know signs indicate otherwise, but I just don’t see him playing anywhere else, and the latest indications don’t make money the issue it once was.

Besides, i still don’t see the big majority of teams out there willing to pay a corner like we do, and we know Al has no problems. The contract will certainly be more friendly, but I still believe the Asom1 deserves to be among the highest players in the game, especially for what he brings to us in addition the amazing play.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on May 1, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

having Nnamdi

would be viewed as a bonus. My concern is knowing AD’s penchant to keep “his” players is that he would have typically locked him up. Nnamdi owes it to himself to investigate his market value; I just hope that the true value is in line with Revis. I think that it means $8mm a year. $15mm is simply ridiculous for a team that hasn’t played in a playoff game.

by raiders4liffe on May 1, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, the talking heads have

Philly and Wash backing up the Brinks truck for Nnamdi. I don’t see it, I think we’ll still be the high bidders for him at hopefully around $9 or $10 million a year.

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on May 1, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

it has to be more than what Routt is getting

so it will probably be around 12 million, which is still alot better than 16.

by RyanTheRaider on May 1, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

$11 million is > Routt ... greater minds?

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 1, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on May 2, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we'll have to pay Nnamdi more than Routt

Routt’s contract has got to be pissing off Revis as much as it is me.

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on May 2, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Like your thinking Rambis, BUT............

If the contract Nnamdi had, hadn’t voided ITSELF out, by the language it contained, Nnamdi would be getting the 16.8 mil he was due. Let’ get one thing straight here. We ALL agree he’s the best corner in the league, hands down !!!! QB’s ARE NOT going to test him, for at least the next 5 yrs. Isn’t that still worth 12 mil. a year, for say 4 years, with an option for the 5th year at say, the 16.8 he was suppose to make this year, at the very least ??? I say hell yes !!!! Not only do we have what appears to be 2 lockdown corners, but their proteges learning not only from him and Routt, but also one of the best DB to ever play the game, COACH ROD WOODSON !!!! I see nothing wrong with backing our own (well Al’s) Brinks truck to Nnamdi’s driveway and say here, stay, and while u’r at it, show the rook’s how it’s done !!!!

by papabegood on May 1, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

And why would Al, the guy who originally made his pay the astronomical number it is

Suddenly be unwilling? I look forward to seeing him retire a Raider, and enter the hall of fame as one too.

"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on May 1, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, but the idea that teams

like Philly and Wash. are going to pay Nnam more than the $16.8 is ridiculous. Nnamdi should return and give us a hometown discount… say Sons estimate of $11 million a year for 4 years, then all the kids can fight it out and learn from the best.
The one team that actually worries me is the niners, because of their proximity to us and Nnamdis businesses and charities, they are historically cheap though, so that gives me some solace.

"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan

by rambis64 on May 2, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Our new OLB. Mike Mitchel is ready.

He’s fast to get to the QB and strong against the run. And I’ve seen him throw linemen around…

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on May 1, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

That’d be cool from time to time, but I don’t think he can be a full time Linebacker.

Bring me a shrubbery!

by JaKe. on May 1, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

in passing situations it would be good

by RyanTheRaider on May 1, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

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