So much for improvement
by hero66 on Apr 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT
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PrintI entered this year's draft fairly optimistic. We didn't have a first rounder, but we did well drafting and filling needs last season so I figured that maybe this organization turned a corner. Then, we made a smart selection, drafting a G/C with our first pick, a smart guy and a good player who fills a need that has been ignored for a while.
But then, in true Al fashion, it turned to shit.
We entered this draft with three pressing needs: Help along the offensive line, another OLB, and safety help. Corner was an issue as well, but if we had gone without drafting one, I wouldn't have minded.
But, of course, we drafted two. DvD is a classic, obligatory, absurd Al Davis pick. Fast, but is not good enough to play man on underneath and intermediate routes. He is not strong enough to consistently tackle guys, eliminating the possibility of a move to safety. He is a developmental track athlete who we moved up to overdraft. That is a joke.
With the next pick we took an OT, which is good. That is a need. But we took one that was not rated that highly compared to who was available, and took him because of his size and strength. A "raw, talented guy with upside" is not what we needed when there were several more polished OT's on the board, and already went down that route last season with Bruce Campbell. JC is a guy who needs protection, so when you have two guys you can count on to be solid (Veldheer and Wiz), why in the world are you reach for a risky guy like Barksdale?
Then we take another corner for his size/speed who cannot be counted on to play man consistently well this year. If we're saying that Asomugha is gone, why are the replacements we're drafting guys who will take a long time to develop if they ever do develop? Why are we taking corners suited for zone to play in a man scheme? Because they're tall, and fast. A joke. Davon House would've been a much better selection as a press corner.
But, with 4 picks left and a surprising amount of good players falling, we still could've filled needs at safety and OLB, and even shored up the O-line. Herzlich was sitting there for us. Cannon was there. But we take...a running back? He's not a bad pick in terms of value as he is a good player...but RB? The ONE position we know will be absolutely solid for us in 2011? But he's fast. Oh yeah, I forgot.
And then the rest of the draft I guess was just more comedic filler, as we drafted a fast WR, a fast TE and a crappy WR to finish, completely ignoring serious needs on defense.
I guess I shouldn't expect much more, but I'm sick of speed drafts. How can somebody be so stubborn? How can somebody see SO much losing but STILL make the same fucking mistakes and draf tthe same fucking way? You say you want to win, you mock Cable when he celebrates 8-8, but then you go out and do this? Completely ignore what this football team needs to get better to fit some tired, worn out, ineffective philosophy?
Now, cue the cries of "OMGROFLHATERZGONHATE" from the sheep who ignore any intelligence or reason but instead castigate anybody who dares to speak ill of old Al. I am a Raiders fan, will always be a Raiders fan, and will root for things to work out, but I am not going to support every decision they, err, he makes when they are so blatantly and obviously misguided as these selections were. I am not going to continue to support the idea of drafting players for a track meet. This is fucking professional football, not the 100m dash at the Olympics.
I've said it before, but never meant it as much as I do now: Fuck you, Al Davis.
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Ya whatever
I love it! We can still make a trade when everything opens up.
Still proud to wear the Silver and Black here. Speed is the name of the game, and last I checked in 2010, the Raiders were fast and becoming feared for that reason.
The Raiders were feared in 2010 because they ran the ball exceptionally well
And were able to capitalize on that with good play actions. We were so bad outside the division because we didn’t have an OLB who consistently got to the QB, and our secondary was picked apart because the players didn’t fit the scheme.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
so they were not fast?
I agree with you we to have upgrades in a couple areas. But,I truly believe Hue and Al have a plan in place and are executing everything accordingly. I mean, I know the past 8 years have been bad, but Al has been doing this for ages
They were fast
I’m saying that had nothing to do with it. Guys like DHB, Murphy, Ware, W. McFadden, Tyvon Branch weren’t the reason we were successful.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Ford and McFadden made alot of plays for us
and speed had alot to do with most of them
by RyanTheRaider on May 1, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
they were pick apart because of Bad Coaching !!!!!
Not because of players not fitting the schemes !!!! Don’t know what you was thinking, when you made that statement !!! Marshmellow went vanilla on the schemes, not the players !!!!
Wah wah
Chekwa is a good corner. I watched a lot of his work at Ohio State, he was solid with what I felt was good technique. As for DvD if Rod Woodson wanted him that’s good enough for me. I am a big fan of Wiz and Barksdale. It’s not so bad, the Raiders were already a good team.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
assuming it was Al Woodson who initially wanted him
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
or Al Jackson. All our coaches are bleeding into Al clones
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, you gotta love it
Well, that guy is 6'5" 230 lbs and I'm 5'11 180, and I just had to let him know that, that's the way it's going to be today -George Atkinson as told by The Snake
Wasn’t all that bad. Got a starting C, TE, and another weapon in Jones. I really wanted a LB as well, but I guess Herzlich didn’t get picked(wtf), so maybe we can get him as an UDFA.
And remember, there still is Free Agency. Despite the common thought that since we drafted two CB’s, Nnamdi’s leaving. I’m still holding out hope, but that’s just me. Plus I hope we take a look at a Vet offensive lineman. Like Matt Light.
Bring me a shrubbery!
The problem is
A 2nd TE and another RB were the absolute least of our worries. We didn’t draft for need, we drafted for 40 times. And that sucks.
I understand that there is free agency but we shouldn’t have to depend on that in order to build a good team. Plus, that hasn’t worked in the past anyway.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Yes
What makes you think I don’t?
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
just making sure
It is just…I really like this draft.
Well, that guy is 6'5" 230 lbs and I'm 5'11 180, and I just had to let him know that, that's the way it's going to be today -George Atkinson as told by The Snake
Two of the first three picks went to OL.
I say that is drafting to need.
I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo
by Rich Langford on Apr 30, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
we got a TE in the 6th round
you dont draft for need in the 6th, you draft for potential. We got Jones in the 4th and he was a steal.
by RyanTheRaider on May 1, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You keep taking about need !!!
If you consider where we pick, the order that is, and who was picking in front of us, players that was high on the Raider board were taking earlier than expected by other teams, Kapernick and Jarrett are prime examples !!! When we picked, and who we picked at the time might not have been“WHAT WE THOUGHT”, because the need players weren’t there, but taking a good hard look at the picks now, there’s a strong possibility of all these kids making the team, with maybe ONE, going to the practice squad !!!!! You’re looking at speed, like it’s a bad thing !!!! Here’s the difference that you and some others might be overlooking !!! In the past, Al drafted track guys , who happen to play a little football, whereas in this DRAFT, He chose FOOTBALL PLAYERS, that also ran track !!!! Big difference, very big difference !!!!
Holding out hope FTW!!!!!!
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Seriously...
Do us all a favor and delete this garbage. Are you a NFL scout? Talent evaluator? Pro coach? No… You have no idea what the Raiders needs are because you are only privy to the same information we are… which is not much. We have no clue what is going on behind closed doors, who has talked to who, and if any deals got made during the 24 hrs of the lifted lockout.
Herzlich didn’t even get drafted, obviously they know something we don’t.
Go put up a billboard or something…
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
by Kwester421 on Apr 30, 2011 5:20 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
So, wait
Nobody is allowed to have any opinion on any draft prospect ever then, because we aren’t scouts and don’t know anything?
Okay good, just tell the people who support the picks the same thing.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Having an opinion and voicing it
is different than ranting hate speech about players you don’t like and ending it with a F you bomb. This article is pure shit…
How many Lombardi’s are on your shelf?
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
+1
"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."
-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha
This article is "pure shit" because you disagree
Had I dropped an F-bomb toward people who disliked the draft and praised the players, you would have had no problem.
None of what I said about the players was “hate speech”. I didn’t direct anything personally toward them, I gave what was my opinion of their skills, which isn’t very different from what scouts themselves said.
I’m still absolutely confounded though by your insistence that unless you do not work in NCAA or the NFL, you have no right to criticize players or execs. That is amazing. I guess all the Redskins fans should shut up about Dan Snyder, I mean, they’re just fans!
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
by hero66 on Apr 30, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Admit, at least, that you are a Grad basher and an uncouth gentleman
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a Grad basher because Grad sucks
Uncouth…yes.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Reprobate and Heretic!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
hopefully not drafting a QB means Grad will be back
fingers crossed
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.
Hue's press conference implied "the 3rd arm" would come in FA
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Or Josh Portis as a UDFA.
Big arm and athletic to boot. Just needs some polish and he’ll be an NFL quarterback.
Someday you will find me, caught beneath the landslide, in a champagne supernova in the sky.
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He is not implying that you have no right, he is implying that you have neither the qualification or prior experience in the field.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
So every opinion about a player by a fan is invalid?
Or is it a fan who disagrees with him?
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
I feel like some people can't wait to bitch
Relax! I hate that we ignored LB, but has it cost us a game yet? No!
Cry after losses, not before. I’m also of the belief that had we not gone soft due to poor defensive decisions we’d have won with existing personnel, and it should only get better.
If they decide to stand pat with the lb squad as is we’ll pay for it; but it remains to be seen.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
by brhynno on Apr 30, 2011 5:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Can't wait to bitch?
I praised our drafting last year. But yes, as a lifelong Raider fan, I…want them to draft poorly?
No it hasn’t cost us a game yet, but so what, that means we can’t be critical? If they had drafted Greg McElroy with their first round pick, you would have been ok because we haven’t played games yet?
Just as I suspected — no actual analysis of what we did (except for Jake), just cries of hating/bitching and other personal attacks.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
hero66, also think about the talent man, no way was it like last year.
The OLB’s kinda sucked. We’ll find one in FA.
The RaiderLaker
But there were ones to be had
And I think that should’ve taken priority over drafting Dyke, Chukwa, Gordon, and Jones. You could’ve found better value with an OLB than they did with the two CBs and Gordon.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
noontide has a great view of the dyke and jones picks
in his post. i mean pretty much we got those extra picks and thats what they turned into. u take those away and the draft looks great. those two picks were al’s picks and the jones one im not heated about at all.
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
you can't "take them away"
they’re important picks that could have been used on better players, just like the Jones pick
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
regardless of what u may think
this is a great talent we got at a great value. people were projecting him in the third and hes gonna help in offense AND special teams. he upgrades us in a ton of areas.
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I wanted Mason Foster when he was there in the third,
but also the linebackers are young, and we don’t know what Goethel is capable of yet. So, let’s hope the coaches are right. They clearly decided that was not a need.
Where I really differ with you is that you do not draft for need in the fourth round and later. Jones and Moore were both solid value picks. It would be crazy to expect any team to draft for need in these rounds and see immediate results.
I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo
by Rich Langford on Apr 30, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
As for LB's
If we look at the UFA list, it is full of good players. This could be one of the reasons we didn’t draft one.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
id have to say that woulda of been my only complaint too noon
him for DvD. when that didnt happen i was still holdin hope out for casey matthews in the fifth when he was fallin a little bit but i cant argue with trying to improbe the WR corps
by frank7da2tank on May 1, 2011 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Aye, Brhynno, I've been mulling this very thing over since speaking with Otto. However and notwithstanding, watching
San Quentin and Warden Wimbley being blocked out and seeing Death Ro biting and taking himself out of plays cannot be laid at Marshmallows feet. On the other hand, the LBs were often set-up entirely wrong (soft sets) when they should have been unchained and set free to attack and savage as is their nature.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 30, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
HAh! Great names!!!
Well, that guy is 6'5" 230 lbs and I'm 5'11 180, and I just had to let him know that, that's the way it's going to be today -George Atkinson as told by The Snake
What room for a LB?
We have
Wimbley
McClain
Brown
Goethel
Groves (most likely will be resigned and is decent enough to play)
Howard (probably will be resigned)
We don’t know what will happen in FA, but to say anything is done is a mute point. I don’t see a glaring need for a LB as much as I see the need to take a shot at landing a good young WR to compete. I liked our draft, our staff liked our draft and their plan unfolded exactly how they wanted. Its easy to criticize from the outside with our Al Davis media driven Cyncism but that pen doesn’t write in Silver and Black.
"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."
-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha
We don't have a starting-caliber OLB
Nobody who can get to the QB or be relied on to consistently stop the run, which has been a problem for seemingly forever. That is certainly something that we need more than another fast, unpolished receiver.
As for the last part of your post, that’s exactly what I expected. blah blah blah blinded by the media blah blah not a fan, whatever. None of what I said had anything to do with what Kiper of McShay or Maycock said and as I stated I have followed and rooted for this team diligently my entire life and plan to continue doing so.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
i mean.... wimbley looked pretty good gettin to the QB
and its not like we blitz a ton anyways. we count on our front four for that. besides we still dont know exactly what goethel has to offer (fully) and for the third or fourth or fifth time…. theres still free agency. we really helped our offense out today and by doing that we keep our defense off the field for longer periods… thats a win. im still holding out hope that we bring in someone like gaither and another LB for competition but other then that this wasnt that bad. the only pick leaving people dumbfounded was the DvD pick.
in the words of spartacus
“grab ahold of your cock! and aim it straight!” buaaahhhh
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant opposite Wimbley
Though he struggles at time against the run and in coverage as well.
But like I said, I understand there is free agency and all but the draft is where SB winners are built, and we won’t get there if we keep screwing up our picks.
I like the addition of Wiz along the line, but have questions about Barksdale, and am not confident in Moore really doing much of anything in 2011.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Chill out
Do you not realize how young our team is? At OLB we have Wimbley, Groves, Goethel, and possibly Howard. What makes you think we could have gotten somebody better than them after the 3rd round? For Wimbley, Groves, and Goethel, it was their first season with the team and they are only going to get better as the defense gels more as a unit. Last time I checked, Wimbley was pretty good at getting to the qb. Plus, pass rush from olb’s is not super important in a 4-3 scheme since that is more of the DE’s job. At DE we have 3 young pass rushers who are only going to get better in Shaughnessy, Scott, and Houston.
We might be able to get someone in UDFA that
could be better than them all… Mark Herzlich
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Barksdale is a smart guy. He will be a good RT. He's not an LT, chill man, Veldheer is the man.
BC is not that smart. He took a whole year to get it, or maybe more plus he is raw and looked bad even in college. Stop comparing BCampbell’s rawness to Barksdale.
Barks will impact this year. He is from the SEC, and will have Hue on him and Wiz uncle teaching him he will ball, trust me.
The RaiderLaker
I guess I am being too hard on the Barksdale pick
There are people who I would have rather had, but I suppose that one is ok.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Well to be honest I am not feeling the particular CB's taken. I don't like it.
But maybe Wood had a say, he maybe wants to coach them, and Al agreed. The WR’s are wait and see, but I loved the fact that Moore uses his hands to catch, but we could’ve had an OLB instead as you say.
Let’s hope Groves improves, as another year in a system may make you more in tune with it and confortable. (didn’t Groves come from a 3-4?)
The RaiderLaker
I do also like the fact that Moore can do what our wideouts can't
catch the ball consistently…but I do also think he is like our WRs in that you can’t count on him to get open consistently enough to utilize his hands. If we were going to draft a WR, we needed one who can run good routes and get open.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Maybe think about it in terms of, how much will this guy improve the team rather than how much of a value he was/wasn't.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Same thing
I think he wasn’t a great value because there were better tackles available who would have improved the team more.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
We improved the O-line with young athletic guys. Mission accomplished.
Now, there is still room for improvement. And there is a thing called FREE AGENCY.
I luv the Jones pick too, the rest may blow but those 3 guys will not dissapoint this year.
The RaiderLaker
The Jones pick I didn't like not because of he player necessarily
I’m not the biggest fan of Jones, but he’ll be useful. The problem is that a 2nd TE is the absolute least of our worries. We are an OLB and a secondary away from contending for the Super Bowl and the failure to sufficiently address those positions is disappointing.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
Confused Jones with Gordon in that comment
That’s my problem with the Jones pick as well…we didn’t need a 3rd RB.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
yeah we did?
we all have to live with the fact that mcfadden is gonna miss one or two games a season. so when he goes down we need someone who can fill that elite speed back role that he’s so great at. teams need to respect our edges even when dmc goes down. plus rock as our 3rd RB just wasnt doin it for me.
the gordon pick was alright in the sense that the guy is a mauler. real physical guy so thatll help a ton in redzone, jumbo, and unbalanced situations
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Ford might go WR full time. Jones is necessary for KRs and backup RB in case of injury.
We will only have Dmac and Bush. (maybe Cartwright but he sucks as an RB)
The RaiderLaker
great point jj
i didnt even mention the special teams ramifications. this was a solid pick in a lot of aspects.
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Dmac missed two games last year
And Bush filled in solidly for both. That 1-2 punch is good enough, especially when you consider the glaring needs elsewhere.
Cartwright is an excellent special teamer, that’s why he’s on the roster. Ford is the KR, and should’ve been a Pro Bowl one.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
ah... so san francisco was a good game eh?
lol
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
I don’t think anything could’ve helped us then, though, that was a bad bad game.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
listen
im just sayin we needed another explosive player on offense. i really think we got one here too
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The SFgame was and is on the coaches
shitty game plans on both offense and defense
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
To be fair on the coaches
no one seemed to turn up to play either (LaMarr and Zach excepted). The offensive line was like a revolving door, JC couldn’t hit the side of a missile silo, our receivers other than Zach were dropping everything that did come to them, no one was tackling or covering…
Someday you will find me, caught beneath the landslide, in a champagne supernova in the sky.
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Shaughnessy played well too
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
by Sons-of-Blanda on May 2, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was an all around ugly game
but the game plans were ridiculously bad. We looked scared of their “D”, but still ran right into the teeth of it. We were soft on both offense and defense from a planning stand point. The players were not ready to play and that goes on the coaches for not having them fired up and ready.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
the problem is as well that when D-Mac has been out we basically have a big portion of the playbook that is unusable
now we have Jones that will not be a problem and hopefully Jones may be able to ease the work load on Dmac and stop some of these injuries.
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.
this draft after round two is at worst equal with last year
Get of the fucking edge Hero we still have free agency
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.
After round two last year we got Veldheer and Ford
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
this year we got Wisniewski and Jones
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.
Well, Wiz was our first pick
And I acknowledged it was a good one. Jones I think was a terrible one.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
http://www.domingobeisbol.com/
just because he was our first pick does not make him a first round pick - that train of though is exactly what i mean when i say the perception of the picks we made is distorted by our lack of first round pick
people thought Ford was a ’typical al davis speed pick" last year and that we didnt need another receiver that high but in retrospect it was a great pick as I am sure this will be as well
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.
i know i sound optimistic
but i really like the last pick too. i really wanted a big bodied WR who could go in on 3rd and 5, line up in the slot, and do a simple in, drag, or slant route and make the catch shielding people off with his big frame. we need more first downs this coming season
by frank7da2tank on Apr 30, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm getting a picture of Hue's vision for the future
hence, the offense heavy draft, and also in guys like this. Listen to what he says in the press conference recapping the draft, too.
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Barksdale and Jones = Veld and Ford GT.
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Jones is not a terrible pick and i like that they felt like they were going best player available in those last few rounds.
We did need another speed back that can go wide. It was something we needed to add. We were number 2 to the Chiefs if run offense because they had that 3rd speed option and we didnt. When one of our running backs were hurt we did not have a second option in those games. This is an immediate improvement and adds a player that everybody will have to game plan for. Every minute are opponent has to focus on an individual player is an advantage to us. I wouldve liked an OLB but Jones is a very quality pick. Atleast wait til you see a couple games before you go into the sky is falling mode. I have faith that the coaches know more than we do and that they did what they wanted. Im not going to say they are wrong even if i disagree with some picks too. I feel like we are a better team now than before the draft, dont you?
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
by Marcus Allen Krause on Apr 30, 2011 8:37 PM PDT reply actions
lots of typos in that, sorry lol our not are and in not if.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
by Marcus Allen Krause on Apr 30, 2011 8:38 PM PDT reply actions
Nation divided.
Why are people so mad with Al? It’s HIS team, HIS money and HIS decision. Hue said it, and that won’t change until he passes. The problem with many people is that they expect rookies to come in and make and immediate impact. They should and some do, but this like anything takes time. Come one guys, we have been through thick and thin. Always stood up for our team even after every lose. Don’t let the “analysts” tell you that we suck. We are a nation, the only nation, the Raider Nation.
by 3XSBCHAMPS.OAK. on May 1, 2011 5:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Just because Al didn't do what you wanted,
doesn’t mean that it all won’t workout. This draft has the possibility of being very solid and until it plays out over the next few years, harsh (or any)judgements such as yours are just speculation and conjecture.
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