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Why the 2011 Oakland Raiders Draft Played Out This Way


I think the draft of the Oakland Raiders has a lot of potential, more so than other years. It's just a matter of coaching and using the pieces we acquired correctly. Other than Wis and Barksdale, this was a draft of depth and developmental starters. For a team that came to close to the playoffs, it's not a bad way to draft. However, I think this was more than just drafting some depth and a couple O-Line starters. My interpretation of the draft plan after the jump.

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Now then let me start by saying that obviously, none of this is for sure. I'm pretty much just speculating as I obviously don't know what Davis and Jackson were planning. It's just how I think they were looking at the draft.

Let's just start with those O-Line guys. Barksdale and Wis can both come in and start immediately and most likely will. Both bring the size and power we need for the power block scheme, and both immediately upgrade the line. This is pretty much cut and dry. We may have been top-10 in offense last year, but that O-Line was getting Jason Campbell killed (by the way, glad we didn't take Kaepernick or Mallett) and had trouble opening up holes against above average run defenses.

Now then, let's look at our two DB's, DeMarcus Van Dyke and Chimdi Checkwa. Both are fast, fluid, and physical. Both fit the press-man scheme. Both have high upside. Both give us a deep group of defensive backs. Look at what our cornerback group looks like

  1. Stanford Routt- One of the most targeted corners in the NFL who was almost exclusively on the offense's number 1 receiver. Despite all this, still managed to allow only a handful of touchdowns. Could be even better with our next corner taking some of the heat away from him with:
  2. Chris Johnson- Just like Stanford Routt, sucks in the slot, great on the outside. Was in Routt's position two years ago and had very similar stats in terms of touchdowns allowed.
  3. Jeremy Ware- Can play safety or corner. Showed flashes of excellence last year. Rookie mistakes led to allowing big plays but was solid and improving as the year went on.
  4. Walter McFadden- Still developing but gave up a lot of big plays. Never really seemed to get it. Coaching staff has high hopes but might not even make team when competing with:
  5. DeMarcus Van Dyke- Looks like Walter McFadden but a more physical guy who can better play the bump-and-run scheme and with higher upside. Tall, fast, physical and at worst is good depth.
  6. Chimdi Checkwa- Guy looks like he could end up our nickel corner if it wasn't for Jeremy Ware. Checkwa loves to play physical and has enough speed to hang with any slot receivers who might beat his press coverage. Has great recovery ability and once again fits the scheme like a glove. I love this kid.

Many said we needed a starting corner to replace Nnamdi. If Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt have been playing number 1's and been two of the most attempted on corners in the NFL during their starting stints with Nnamdi, but only allowed 3-5 touchdowns, I think we've got two quality starters. The problem wasn't starters last year, it was the nickel and dime backs who were getting beat constantly in the slot. Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt can't play in the slot, plain and simple. They just can't.

So what did Al Davis do? He gets two corners who can play in the slot very well and actually are nickel corners, especially in the scheme. Two guys who are physical enough to press against big slot receivers, yet fast enough against speedy slot guys and to recover if they get beat at the line. Both have potential to be great corners, and at worst are improvements and great depth.

Next we were given a "speed receiver", the speed back Taiwan Jones, a big receiver who might develop as a TE, FB, or just stay as a big Chaz Schilens-type receiver, and a big blocking TE that I've seen scouting reports call, "an extension of Miami's offensive line".

Now why the air quotes around speed receiver for Denarius Moore? Speed receiver implies that he's just fast. That he's not tough, not a good pass catcher, not a good route runner. Moore however is all of these. He's fast, has great hands, plays tough versus press, and runs solid routes (needs some improvement but isn't like JLH out there). Moore has potential to be a starter. I'll go ahead and say it, he is currently the most sure-handed receiver we have. Amazing pick.

Now then, why did we draft so many offensive players and offensive weapons when we were a top-10 offense last year? Those numbers were inflated and misleading. When you tie an NFL record for points scored in a single game, it'll tend to inflate a couple stats. Face it, we lit up the scoreboard only against bad defenses. The only one I consider decent that we did well against was Kansas City.

But when it came time to face Pittsburgh, Tennessee, San Francisco, etc, our offense came to a screeching halt. This team didn't just need a new O-Line, it needed a guy who can come in and just flat-out out run even the fastest of NFL corners whenever McFadden is out or playing badly (Taiwan Jones).

The offense needed a true number one receiver with sure hands and speed who will be our indisputable number 1 receiver week in and week out (Denarius Moore).

The offense needed a big huge red zone target other than just Zach Miller who can outreach, out-jump, and out-body anyone covering him (potentially David Ausberry).

FInally and maybe most importantly, the offense needed a real blocking TE who can catch here-and-there, but mostly stay in an be a reliable blocker for Hue's two TE sets to free up Miller to do what he does best, be a playmaking TE (Richard Gordon).

This is going to be a smashmouth, grind-it-out team that will dominate time of possession. Just when you're lulled to sleep by the constant first down grabs for Miller, Reece, or the running backs, or the constant churning of 4 yard gains by DMac and Bush, or even just the sure handed grabs of Denarius Moore on the ouside, BAM!

Oakland depth on offense and its many weapons come alive. Whether it be Taiwan Jones crashing through corners or racing past backers and safeties on screen passes, McFadden bursting through the middle of a tired defense, Denarius Moore showing why he averaged 21 YPC, Jacoby Ford's amazing speed and YAC ability, Miller busting through the secondary thanks to being freed up by Richard Gordon, or maybe even Murphy or DHB finally catching a pass and showing their jets.

This offense will finally have some options on third and 5's, some options if the running game is stale, and finally a complete package receiver on the outside. All three were things we lacked last year, all three cost us games, all three were majorly underrated needs.

Am I upset we didn't get a linebacker or some help for the run D in the draft? Of course I am. However, I'm excited at the possibility of our offense finally playing great against any defense in the NFL, not just the bad ones. I love that slot receivers might finally no longer be our worst nightmares. And of course, I love having finally gotten help for the offensive line.

While the offense lights up the scoreboards and dominates time of possession, opposing offenses will struggle to play catch up with multiple receiver sets against a very deep cornerback group and an elite pass rushing front four.

This draft made Oakland a much deeper team, a more consistent team, and quite possibly a playoff team. We'll just have to wait and see. Nothing is ever certain in the NFL.

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Great read!

I agree with all the points. If you thinking about it, alot of the games we lost were due to some of these points. The deffense does a good job at getting the ball back, our offences struggled to score in many situations.

by Ctb3 on May 1, 2011 8:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought this was definitely a need based draft

Although my impression from the raiders not drafting a WLB was that maybe they’re sold on atleast giving Goethel a chance?

Im actually really curious about Ausberry. I have no idea whats going to happen with him…but hes definitely the kind of guy you take a chance on in the 7th.

Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!

by naq92 on May 1, 2011 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Goethel and Groves are going to be in open competition for the job. I like Goethel a lot. He actually is my favorite guy from the draft just because of the type of player he is. Not very strong, not very fast, but a very sure tackler and an incredibly smart linebacker. Watched a lot of film on him and he takes incredible angles to the ball carrier and finds the ball carrier the fastest I’ve seen since Brian Urlacher.

Goethel can definitely start and I really think should. He’d definitely stop those edge runs that killed us last year. Also very good in coverage. Might switch to MLB on pass situations to play that middle backer mid-zone that the scheme uses a lot. Depends on if McClain can play that zone better this year or not.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It may have been need influenced, but I can't argue that these guys at least have a lot of potential to be even better.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on May 1, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

great blog

I think there were some areas of need the Raiders should have addressed, such as safety, and and “will”. I don’t mind the WR or CB picks too much, but when there were pressing needs in other areas, these could have waited. The persons the Raiders chose could definitely have been there in later rounds. They could have drafted Matthews no problem, and then addressed CB and safety later.

To be honest though, the biggest position of need, I think has already been filled when the Raiders selected Hue as HC. This addition will be the biggest improvement this year. The next improvement is Lil Wiz. Raiders needed a C in the worst way. Satele did ok (at best) in the ZBS, but will not do well in the power blocking scheme. Improvement there was a must!

by TD Rader on May 1, 2011 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Made a huge post quite a while back about Satele but won’t get into that. It’s shame that he’s most likely going to be second string or released. Would be a much better LG option than Loper is right now.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

How come we wouldn't keep Satele?

I thought he was good enough to come back, and doesn’t he have another season or is he too-overpaid?

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on May 1, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe he is a free agent. i think we tendered him but never actually signed him. Might not want to come back, might not play as hard since he’d be a backup. I thought he played much better than people think and would be even better at LG. Really hope Satele comes back, just don’t see it happening.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year we made huge strides on Defense moving from 26th overall to 11th through a heavy Defensive draft and FA signings

This year balanced out the team, as KA1Z3R explains very eloquently. by precisely addressing offensive deficiencies. Another thing that became clear (after some post draft reflection) was Hue, Saunders & Al’s concept of Bully, i.e. a Rush dominant offense that can impose its will and control the clock. This also explains our aborted attempt to take Kaepernick, who is as much about rushing as passing. NE (perhaps fortunately) wanted too much for its 33rd pick and Denver and SF collaborated against us, okay, no problem, we adjust, adapt, overcome and stay the course. Jason Campbell excelled when the rushing game was working and failed when it bogged. Now we have the pieces in place to better insure that that rushing game chugs along against all opponents … the first big test of this will be at home against the Jets in Sept.

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"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 1, 2011 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Can't wait for that!

I’ll be there for sure.

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on May 1, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we can at least get 100 yards against the Jets on at least a 4 ypc average, then I will be satisfied with the running game. One thing about using the ground game to get to the Super Bowl, you can’t have your numbers dip against even the best rush defense. It’s hard to pull that off, but it’s impossible to stop if you do.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good to have you posting again, K. You're getting me fired up, dude!

I definitely saw through the forty times on these guys, and was too happy with the two lineman and Gordon, essentially another big blocker whose numbers catching belie his ability to do so anyways, so he’ll be able to hit guys and get open too, but his real presence will come in power blocking.

In looking at these guys, watching tape, and analyzing their specific skill sets it’s clear they were determined to fit needs. I have no doubt the defense will get better. I’m convinced we have seeds planted for acquiring a missing link OLB to round us out, but it’s appearing as though the offense we have going forward will dictate many of the games.

A bit of a surprise, when we were anticipating having a team not needing a prolific offense but a competent one, and able to get by on defense. It appears the offensive philosophy will be to keep punching in the mouth with first downs and touchdowns and will attempt to outscore teams more. I’m excited, because those types of offenses create ball hawking, opportunistic, turnover causing defenses.

Great post, and rec’d. I can’t wait to see the new product on the field and in camp.

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by brhynno on May 1, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Goethel is most likely going to start this year.

Thing about the defense, it’s still got a LOT of young guys (we want safeties yet we have guys in their third, fourth, or second years back there) who are still developing. Shaughnessy and Houston are still very young and are already this good? The Davis defense is getting set up to finally start paying off.

Offense is constantly passing to catch up, but they can’t pass. Why? 7 guys are in coverage and the corner back group is one of the deepest in the league. The receivers are slow off the line and out-of-sync with the QB due to press and tight man coverage. Time’s running low as the QB frantically looks for anyone coming open. Where to throw, where to——

“Sack on the play by Matt Shaughnessy for a 5 yard loss. That’ll bring up fourth down.”

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think the raiders have what we need at line backers

cant forget about the underrated goethel he can easily move over to that linebacker position…and we still have time to try an get herzlich as a free agent and hopefully deandre brown the wide receiver

by Rell Rell Lynch on May 1, 2011 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Goethel won the starting job at weak side LB coming out of camp until he got hurt and had to have back surgery and was out for the rest of the season. This is why the Raiders didn’t target an OLB in the draft.

by Captain Chaos on May 1, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

WR Moore

 Tennessee had QB problems last year, that explains why Moore only had 42 catches and went under the radar. What is amazing about Moore is his YAC, 20.6 yards a catch. To top it off a WR with 958 yards with only 42 grabs 8 of them being touch downs, you can see why the Raiders took this kid. He will be the best possession WR the Raiders have. Amazing pick in the later rounds.

by Captain Chaos on May 1, 2011 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

People only focus on the 40 time, if you watch Moore his hands are comparable to a Greg Little or Tandon Doss. Difference is Moore is elusive in the open field and pretty fast.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is Greg Little but thats besides the point. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 1, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s faster than Little though haha

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

40 time wise maybe.

But Little is also blazing fast. hell, he was dangerous as a return man as well.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 1, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

compared with Andre Johnson

but “bad character” dropped him.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 1, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol fine Moore is a faster Tandon Doss haha

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by KA1Z3R on May 2, 2011 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks a lot KA1

Now I am even more pissed off about the lockout situation. You got me even more jacked for Raiders football!

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by Rich Langford on May 1, 2011 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

haha my bad bro

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, can you shoot me an email?

rll2008@live.com I have a couple question/ideas that I don’t want to bore down this thread with.

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by Rich Langford on May 1, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

ight give me a couple minutes

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

sent you an email

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Goethel was named the Will LB spot last year?

If so! I had no idea! I do remember him playing late in the season and I thought he did pretty good! I got all 16 games recorded on my DVR, so which game should I watch where you guys think Goethel shows some starter potential?

by Tha E on May 1, 2011 1:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I was thinking he really showed up in the Jags game and the last KC game. He has some bad plays out there for sure but being a rookie who was injured all year, that’s very understandable. He did much better than I thought he would in that situation and could be a really good starter next year if he stays healthy.

Rest assured, he saw plenty of field time last year and didn’t get reinjured and will have more than enough to be completely healthy and get bulked/conditioned back up.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

great article

Always the voice of reason…

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on May 1, 2011 1:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

haha thanks man. Just voicing my opinions.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

KA1Z3R, I agree on the upside of this draft....

Though we may have a real sleeper and that is Ausberry is 6’ 3" 236 and runs a 4.46, he plays WR and has hands…I hope his game shows up in camp because this kid blazed them High School, he is from the Fresno area. Went to USC and was a great role player…With his size and if he can produce in camp he would pose matchup issues for small corners…He is not a 4.3 guy, but he can play…Wiz may start if Satale slows, however, he shouldn’t be moved to Guard, I don’t think he would do well there. Barksdale is another project player with a huge upside, he knows his weaknesses and reputation for not playing hard, hopefully he will push himself. All in all and decent draft…

by Rodney Sacramento on May 1, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I love the Ausbery pick. I’m really interested to see what we can do with him. I wouldn’t mind keeping him at receiver to fill the void Chaz Schilens leaves each and every year when, not if, he gets injured. We need a big, tall, sure-handed, red zone receiver with some good burst to him.

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by KA1Z3R on May 1, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ausberry has me excited. Know why?

His measurables and position he plays reminds me a lot of the pats Aaron. An excellent, dallas clark-like TE that can be a slot WR. VERY dangerous guy that we got. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 1, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

KA1Z3R

I have been trying to say this for quite a bit. Thank you for making a post on this.

Also, keep in mind Felix Jones was a backup to McFadden at Arkansas. They switched them out every so often, used them with the wildcat.

Remember how McFadden can also play WR, and throw the ball? So many choices we can do on offense. It actually reminds me of the type of offense with the pats to tell the truth…

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 1, 2011 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I would say our offense has more upside than the pats. We can straight up burn people like toast

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by DarknBlack on May 1, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

it does have potential to be better.

we just have to see how they are utilized first, and to see how Campbell does again in terms of reading defenses and pocket presence and accurate throws.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 1, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taiwan Jones is actually faster than DMac which is what excites me. Jones will play a lot of receiver also. If our running game is going a bit stale, Jones can break it all wide open. I just flat-out love this pick.

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by KA1Z3R on May 2, 2011 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hope he stays healthy, and not becoming a Schilens(I heard Jones has glass knees.....).

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 2, 2011 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe hes like

McFadden and just needs a diet change, McFadden should be able to help him out with that.Having 3 good backs should help limit all of our guys injuries, which is another reason this is a god pick.

by RyanTheRaider on May 2, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is more injury prone than mcfadden in college.

in college, he is almost an injury prone as schilens

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 2, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know

but if he has a bad diet,changing it should help.

by RyanTheRaider on May 2, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do too but being the third back, it’s not like the workload will be insane. More than the typical #3 back of course but he should be fine.

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by KA1Z3R on May 2, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction:

(by the way, glad we didn’t take Kaepernick or Mallett)

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on May 1, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn’t want Kaepernick. I’m an avid Jason Campbell supporter.

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by KA1Z3R on May 2, 2011 4:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a patch. We can be better.Even if we win with him, I know that there is room for improvement.

Way more. I’ll be happy winning but he’s not that good if you know what I mean.

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by JaggerJaw on May 2, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This "avid [JC] supporter" sentiment coming from you is somewhat surprising

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 2, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

what do you mean?

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by KA1Z3R on May 3, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can understand being a 'supporter' after all, Jason did improve after his nadir against SF. But I don't recall your

being ever more than lukewarm to Jason last season. I wonder what changed your mind to become ‘avid’.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 3, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

people DO change their minds

when a person proves them wrong, or changes their views. ;)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 3, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Mr. Helper. And people do change their minds and most of the time there's a reason

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 3, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should also say THE person

as In Campbell. If he did not like campbell before, then I guess Campbell’s play down the stretch changed his views on him.

I dont know, but I see what you mean. There is always a reason.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 3, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was very lukewarm until the team finally got their crap together (i.e. using Ford more, using more power block than ZBS, running a lot more, using a ton of well setup and well faked play actions passes, starting rotating Groves out more especially once Goethel got healthy enough to play, finally started rotating John Henderson into the lineup) to where Campbell could actually show what he’s got and succeed.

I really became avid when I realized he finished the year with a winning record starting and just how much better he looked than Bruce Grad-please-just-sit-on-the-couchski. Now that we can actually get him an offensive line and another stud at wide receiver (don’t forget that Gordon potentially frees up Miller a LOT more), I think we’ll see Campbell show why the team is sticking with him.

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by KA1Z3R on May 4, 2011 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

i was less than lukewarm on Campbell up until he came out in a press conference after one of the games

I cant remember the specific quote but he had played great but he wasnt happy. He was pissed and really was showing leadership in saying that they needed to do it week in and week out and the win doesnt mean anything if they miss the playoffs. i wish i could remember what game, i think it was after the 2nd Denver beating. I had only been giving him the benefit of the doubt up until that press conference but afterwards i had become a Campbell backer and am very excited to see what he is going to do next year.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

by Marcus Allen Krause on May 9, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very good article, I like the straight forwardness of it.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

by Marcus Allen Krause on May 1, 2011 9:10 PM PDT reply actions  

thanks, glad you liked.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on May 2, 2011 4:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't Jerome Boyd still on the roster too?

"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich

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by brhynno on May 2, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

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