2011 NFL Draft Grades: What the Experts Think of the Oakland Raiders' Draft
We have a full slate of Oakland Raiders 2011 NFL Draft grades to dissect. We already discussed Mel Kiper's surprisingly level-headed thoughts yesterday, and as I went through more and more draft grades I found them to be a little more positive than I thought. I fully expected to find a slew of "Al Davis is off his meds" jokes that went something like, "he forgot he was drafting drafting a football team and not a track team."
There were some Al jokes, but they were largely based on the Raiders trade with New England. The Raiders traded their seventh-round selection and their second-round pick in the 2012 Draft for the Patriots third and fourth-round selections. Going strictly by the trade value chart the Raiders got ripped off—even in the almost certain eventuality that the pick will be 32nd in the second-round.
However, the trade value chart is for picks in the same year. Picks in future year's are going to be viewed with declining value. One thing I think people forget is that picks only have value when you use them. It's like money and life—you can't take it with you. Sure this pick will hurt next year, but it will hurt a lot less when the Raiders make another trade with future picks and get back into the second-round. For whatever it's worth the move was greeted with 59 percent approval on our poll. I'll try to remember to ask the question again before next year's draft.
For now, let's just look at the report cards....
Analysis: The Raiders, as expected, added speed on both sides of the ball. You had to expect that. But they failed to add a badly needed developmental quarterback.
Grade: B
Fox has the Raiders coming in at a rock solid B, which is way higher than I grade their rushed draft grades. Really? Their complaint was they didn't add a developmental QB?
Best move: The surprising wideout
Denarius Moore has deceptive speed and is an underrated playmaker. He doesn't have great timed speed, which goes against the Raiders' usual MO, but he is slippery and tracks the vertical pass very well. Moore grew on me and the more tape I watched, the more I liked him.
Most questionable: Getting exploited by the Patriots
The Raiders traded pick No. 219 and a second-round pick in 2012 to the Patriots for picks No. 92 (OT Joe Barksdale) and No. 125 (RB Taiwan Jones). This is typical Raiders, not having a feel for where players are coming off the board and then getting impatient and making bad deals. The Patriots have a habit of exploiting teams like this and there's a reason New England keeps making deals with Oakland. Basically, this became Barksdale for a second-round pick, and that is not appropriate draft behavior.
And I think it is not appropriate draft behavior to forget about Taiwan Jones!
Perhaps the least surprising draft of the year was turned in by the Oakland Raiders. With their first pick, the 48th pick overall, the Raiders selected Penn State star Stefen Wisniewski. If the name sounds familiar, it should, as he's the nephew of former Raider standout Steve Wisniewski. As nice of a story as that is, this is the NFL, not a college fraternity, and legacies don't necessarily warrant a top 50 selection. Of course, Al Davis loves speed and his club drafted precisely that in cornerbacks Demarcus Van Dyke and Chimdi Chekwa, each of whom timed in the 4.3s at the combine. With their second fourth-round pick, the Raiders took another speedster in Eastern Washington's Taiwan Jones. I love Jones' open-field running ability, but with carries split already between Darren McFadden and Michael Bush, where is Jones going to get his touches?
Grade: C+
No, Rob Rang, legacies don't warrant top 50 selections, but talent does.
They didn’t have their first-round pick, though the Richard Seymour has worked out well. (We’d argue Seymour has been overpaid, but that’s another matter.) Stefan Wisniewski was a safe legacy pick, but lacks the high ceiling of his Pro Bowl uncle. DeMarcus Van Dyke was a backup in college, but at least the Raiders are now taking their track guys in the third round instead of earlier. Jones saves this somewhat generic draft because he could be a steal and gives an improving Raiders offense another dimension.
Grade: C
Finally a little love for Taiwan.
Best pick: I love third-round pick Joseph Barksdale. He played left tackle at LSU, but will play the right side or guard for the Raiders.
Questionable move: Taking DeMarcus Van Dyke in the third round is a risk. He has great speed, but he is thin. But then again, Al Davis loves speed.
Third-day gem: Fourth-round corner Chimdi Chekwa is a real steal. He will be a better player than Van Dyke.
Analysis: They traded their first-round pick to get Richard Seymour, so they had to wait until the second round. In typical Davis fashion, they took a lot of speed and tough guys.
Grade: C
Joseph Barksdale has a fan! It's fun to see how much people differ on player evaluations. Mr. Prisco hates DvD, but our next guy...
Despite not having a first-round pick, the Raiders were doing pretty well for a while. They filled a huge need at center with Stefen Wisniewski, who could have potentially gone in the first round. They addressed the cornerback position with the underrated DeMarcus Van Dyke. And then... well... Al Davis pulled an Al Davis.
I didn't understand trading for a pick 10 selections ahead of time. That was confusing. The terrible part was that Oakland parted with a 2012 second-round selection. The Raiders were already missing a fourth because of the Jason Campbell deal. So, they better hope they have a really good 2011 season because they won't be able to fill many holes in the 2012 NFL Draft.
In all, I thought Oakland made some really good selections, but my overall grade is going to be relatively low because of the New England trade.Grade: C
He loves DvD. He is not at all a fan of the trade though, and he'll probably say the same thing next year when the Raiders trade a future pick to get a second-rounder back.
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I give it a D-
The only reason it’s that is for getting the steal of the ohio state corner. Wish new england would of just traded with us so we could have gotten Kaepernick cuz this draft was once again horrid.
It's interesting
that none of the pundits mentioned the proven 2010 draft that provided 4 rookie starters. Woodson signed off on both DVD and Chekwa; he saw something in them and that’s good enough for me. You can’t have an interior linemen need with Wiz on the board (exceptional play at both center and guard, 3yr starter, all big ten) and NOT pick him. What if he would have flourished at say KC; impossibility to live with. Hence, we HAD to take him. Regarding the Pats, they can’t pick all the draft they had this year as they would have needed to sign (give money) on players that they would later cut. Hence, deferring picks to next year. What the pundits failed to mention is that by deferring a year, you lose a round. For example, this year’s 1st round pick equals to next year’s 2nd, etc. So by trading our 2nd round next year, it’s a flat trade for picking up a 3rd this year. The only discussion will be where in the 2nd round will that pick really be. All in all, it doesn’t matter if Barksdale has a solid year. Jones will be the wild factor; if he plays and excels, we clearly win that trade. If he doesn’t play and Barksdale shows up, we’re flat.
that would be
this year’s 2nd round equal next year’s 1st round"; a 5th round equals next year’s 4th…
by raiders4liffe on May 2, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
These guys are all over the place when comparing to each other. The only consistency is the speed cliche', or rather,
metaphysical reality. Funny they didn’t take Saunders or Hue’s offensive achievements into account and the greater picture of what they might be envisioning. Bottom line: the Raiders still considered an object of scorn by the mainstream hackers.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]
It's all just opinion, theirs
and until it all plays out it’s just speculation and conjecture. That’s what they get paid to do and they very rarely get called out for being completely wrong.
The Raiders didn’t do exactly what I wanted them to, but it doesn’t mean it won’t work out or the OLB position won’t be handled in free agency, when ever that happens.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
A matter of not pulling my hair out
You guys are helping me, to take a second look at this draft, i’m still not happy with it but only time will tell, my biggest question becomes, what does this draft mean for Mike mitchell and DHB? 2 DB AND 2 WRS.any opinions out there? GO RAIDERS!!!!
I don't think DHB is at any risk of getting cut.
He may be at risk of losing his starting spot though. But rest assured if he is even close to deserving that starting spot he will get it.
I don’t see any impact for Mitchell from this draft. None of the guys drafted can play SS. He’ll still be battling Branch. My guess is Branch will start off as the starter, and Mitchell will get more time as the hybrid lb/db in passing packages.
I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo
by Rich Langford on May 2, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
olb
where is olb help is going to come from? and whatever happend to T. Howard anyway?
free agency or current player in roster will step up??? help me out here…. GO RAIDERS!!!!
my guess is
The coaching staff like Goethel alot, and Howard will play on passing downs
by RyanTheRaider on May 2, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I am pretty sure the Raiders feel they are set at OLB
w/ Wimbley and Goethel. There are a bunch of solid LBs avail in free agency that the Raiders could bring in for depth, or push for a starting spot. It will definitely be a position to watch. Thomas Howard is a free agent, and you have to believe a team will make him an offer better than being a special teams player that the Raiders have relegated him to.
They got 5 LBs under contract so they almost have to bring in another guy.
I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh—T-shirt, no pants and I dance the boog-a-loo
by Rich Langford on May 2, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It's funny to me how,
near the end of the previous season, virtually everyone agreed that this draft lacked much “stud” power, compared to what we’ve seen in recent times.
This makes the Raiders not having a 1st round pick this season and instead having Seymour incredibly shrewd – its funny how no one in the media will go that far, only to say that “Al Davis didn’t get totally ripped when he traded away his 1st round pick!” (again, also funny that when Al traded the pick away, everyone was writing "well, that’s going to be a top 5 picks HAHA RAIDERS)…….
…and then we get to this trade of a 2nd and a 7th round pick for the 3rd and 4th. When a draft lacks stud players, and especially in the NFL draft where diamonds are found in every single round, stocking up on potential when you like it matters. Like it has been mentioned, we will more than likely find our way back into a 2nd round pick ANYWAY, but seriously, having a 1st and 3rd is really that much worse off than having a 1st and a 2nd? Give me a break.
Al Davis is not a chump. Hue Jackson is not a chump. They obviously put time into scouting and rating players to their own plan. If they feel like these guys will improve the team right away, excuse me for not questioning their decision to trade a mid-50s pick in next year’s draft, with no guarantees of a stud player available at that time, for players that they like right now.
Well
None of these compare to the review at CSNBayArea where Cohn predicts the Raiders will finish below .500 this year.
Seriously, there’s no point in listening to the media’s opinions. They really should just stick to the facts.
I think the draft was average overall
A lot of guys with potential. The most interesting aspect to me, is how well Rod Woodson does with the raw prospects we have from this and last year’s draft. Lot’s of speed and upside, but somewhat risky. I don’t think we’ve had a good slot corner since Tory James a decade ago, so if Van Dyke can develop into one, this draft becomes very solid indeed. I do love that we went O-line and got 2 guys who can start, and gives the draft some substance.
Overall, I’m skepticle about it being a typical Raider draft for speed over substance and ability. Time will tell, so the Raiders draft this year is very difficult to grade. Let’s hope the coaching staff is up to getting these guys ready, in what will probably be a shortened offseason program.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
Here it is in a nutshell fellas.
No doubt the raiders will be improved this year and will be making a playoff bid. But when it really comes right down to it, you can’t beat the Steelers, Patriots, Packers and the Falcons of this league with just a running game. You need an elite QB and great WR’s with protection. The Raiders don’t have any of that, especially a elite QB. A light switch is just not going to turn on in Campbell’s head and think, Hey I’m a great QB and play like one. Campbell might not lose many games for a team, but he sure isn’t going to win many big games for a team either. Sorry, It takes a great QB to win in today’s NFL. Just be thankful the Raiders play in the AFC west. Dump Campbell ass now and go get Carson Palmer.
Campbell will be the X factor on offence
Its been well documented that he has little to no consistency in his playing career. This will be his first time he will have some. Working in the same scheme will help as he gets another year of running it under his belt. The question becomes, is there a QB in FA we can get this year than Campbell with a year already in it. I say no. This year we will get a true sence of what we have in campbell. If we need to address the QB position next year, then so be it, maybe we can trade up for Luck. Point is, Campbell will have almost every oppritunity to succeed this year, given a near full rebuildt line(A luxurary/neccessity most raiders QBs never got in there time here, see Andrew Walter), and some WR(Could use another possesion type from FA, but overall in good shape) help, he should play better then has in a while.
by Marcofromda510 on May 2, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
"elite QB"
“go get Carson Palmer”, bro that’s an oxymoron. We’re horrible at drafting QB, last 50 years the Snake was the only proper draft QB who excelled, I would argue that Steve Beuerlein was a solid pick in the 4th rd who went on to have a success. Who’s available and what price? Carson is not the answer.
by raiders4liffe on May 3, 2011 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Why not sign free agent QB?
Pat Devlin from Delaware could be just as good as if not better than any QB in this draft.
Here is his pre-draft analysis:
Devlin has a chance to turn into a starting NFL quarterback and should be a capable backup early on. Teams may want to investigate his transfer from Penn State to FCS Delaware. Blessed with the size for the position. Has enough arm strength for the next level but not quite enough zip to put the ball into tight spots. Accuracy is not on par with his outstanding competition percentage at this stage. Shows glimpses of a poised signal-caller who can scan the field and make good decisions with the football but isn’t consistent enough yet. Probable mid-round selection.
There are others as well.

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