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Stanford Routt tells Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan: "We run sixty plays on defense, fifty-six will be man to man..."

It appears Stanford Routt is getting some attention from the media these days, and the Oakland Raiders continue to be in the news this offseason while we wait for a new CBA and the chance for our guys to get with either new coaches or the same guys in new positions, Hue Jackson, Chuck Bresnahan, Rod Woodson, Greg Biekert, and Steve Wisniewski.

Still not much new to report, and nothing we didn't already know very well, like the nugget in the title, but go ahead and hit the jump to read on anyway. There's a few choice quotes in the interview, which I'm citing from memory now, but will edit when I listen to it's rebroadcast in an hour or so...

Star-divide

It was interesting, because Stanford repeated some of this interview that Rich linked us up with yesterday. Some about finishing school and its importance, some about Nnamdi and the possibility of him being gone and its implications, and the possibility of keeping him. He commented about missing what Tim Ryan dubbed, POTAs, and that he did it because he was finishing school.

Interestingly enough, when commenting about the possiblity of who might fill a vacancy Nnamdi would create when Routt must assume top dog, he mentioned the same names he did in the other interview, and even one we haven't spoken much about in Joe Porter, and also acknowledged Tim Ryan's guess it would be CJ first: Jeremy Ware, JP, and the young guys we drafted this year. He expressed confidence we would have guys to step up if needed.

Asked about his impression of how Mike Mitchell performed:

"The coaches challenged him... and I believe he did well. His locker is right by mine. We’ve had a lot of talks throughout the season and last year at minicamps and OTAs. There are times he may have been a little discouraged, but in my opinion I thought he did real well. He had good games against Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis in back-to-back weeks."

He noted he was called upon as the Dime corner often, and that he performed well when matched up with some elite TEs.

Routt demonstrated the same ability to recall details from prior seasons that we witnessed in the recent interview, when Tim Ryan cited how well our defense played against Philly in 2009, dialing up a lot more zone than we normally do, and even some blitzing. He noted, "it was like game five or six," and remembered they had some success.

Turns out it was week six, and this LINK is worth it just for the vid with a clearly purple-dranked-out-of-his-brain-jackass taking credit for the victory.

I remember we blitzed the shit outta McNabb and neutralized him from the game. Good thing, too, because we had very little offense outside of Jano and a play where Murphy and Zach Miller reversed roles...

Routt told them they are expected to be physical, and to immediately take away space when asked about what's asked of them in this predominantly man to man role:

"For the most part, they want us to be in the receiver’s face and disrupt them off the ball... It’s just the way we do things. We believe in cutting down all the air. From playing tight coverage and seeing up close, the quarterback is going to have to be pinpoint accurate.

On  Kirwan remarking that it must be difficult to straight man up against the three bunch set: "...it is hard as hell to do that..." and Pat Kirwan, laughing, responds: "... but we do it anyways..."

Routt replies: "You took the words, right outta my mouth." 

Pittsburgh destroyed us doing this last year, and it does indeed point out a situation in which manning up in coverage is almost certainly suicidal to a team wanting to win and a defense wishing to prevent scores...Note to Al Davis. If anyone can convince Mr. Davis that it's the wrong thing to do in such cases it's Rod Woodson. Pat and Tim noted that Rod's presence on the sideline might be one of the biggest things he'll bring. I have to agree: He will see things no one else does, and our guys will be the benefactors of his wisdom. I can't begin to express how much that excites me for this season, regardless of who he's mentoring along.

Shortly thereafter in the interview, Stanford commented with the 56 out of 60 comment, responding to Ryan's mention of that game against Philly in '09: 

...we ran a little bit of zone that game, but predominantly, it's what we do. If we play 60 snaps on defense, at least 56 of those are going to be man coverage. Everyone in the league knows what our game plan is.

Routt had the chance to comment about the opportunity to talk with Rod Woodson in that 48 hour period before the draft when the lockout was lifted, and looks forward to working with him in the future:

During that 24 to 48 hour period when the lockout was lifted, I had several conversations with him. He’s a real cool dude. I can’t wait to actually meet him in person and pick his brain. He’s one of my two favorite cornerbacks of all time, him and Deion Sanders. He’s got a lot to bring to the table and I can hardly wait to have some of it rub off on me.

Well said, Stanford. Neither can we.

Finally, the guys asked Stanford if he believed Jackson and Campbell can provide us with the eleven or so we'll need to contend, and he responded. He sounded kinda like Hue to me when he said "absolutely", with that cool confidence that makes me ready to ram my head into innocent inanimate objects for Raider football:

"Absolutely... Four or five plays the other way last year, and we are 11 and 5 looking at the playoffs..."

Routt was also asked specifically about the run defense and he also said that he believed all eleven guys had to just be more consistent, after Tim Ryan noted that many of Sirius' Raider callers are very educated and pointed out that Groves and Wimbley are more pass rushers than they are full package backers. He was asked if he believed it was a matter of lack of experience, or just getting snaps dropping into coverage and supporting in the run. Like a great teammate, he shared the blame with all eleven teammates, and also noted the youth factor with our Mike backer in McClain, without banging blame on him where it is not due:

We were holding teams to 2.5, 2.7 a rush, stuff like that, not really big games. Then after four plays of stopping the run, stopping the run, stopping the run, it will be a pop, someone will be out of their gap, there will be a missed tackle, the corner won’t set the edge, and it will just explode on one play. Big runs kill your average as a run defense. It’s not just the front seven, it’s all 11 of us, and we need to be more consistent.

I have done almost a complete 180 on Stanford from a year ago, and look forward to big things. Will he justify the fat paycheck? I believe he will. This is yet another factor that makes this season one to watch closely.

Study up on your defensive looks before season and then watch what happens. Look forward to columns on personnel charting our Oakland Raiders play by play in 2011, starting with preseason.

Poll
The 2011 defensive backs will:
continue to play man to man, like always.
99 votes
will see some mixing in of zone, enough to notice a change, but remain mostly man to man.
236 votes
56 outta 60? Wanna show me the four out of those we went zone?
38 votes
Coverage won't change; run defense needs tweaking.
90 votes

463 votes | Poll has closed

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good stuff!

You’re satellite radio pays off for us all! I’d definitely like to see the Raiders work in at least enough zone to keep teams honest. But they need to get better at it. They ran a lot of zone in 2010 when teams closed in on the redzone and it was often not pretty.

This is such a happening tailpipe of a party. Like sugar, the guests are so refined.

by Rich Langford on Jun 15, 2011 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

My biggest problem was with Marshall using it in the completely wrong situations, and that guy who used to be head coach, what was his name again?

In the red zone? seroiously? everyone knows it’s easier to man up in shorter field, because duh… there’s less field to cover! I can see going a goal line zone or something like that, but they didn’t! Same front, same personnel usually, sans a d back difference, which is moot, because it should have come in the front seven to be effective, in either five man fronts, 4-4 or 3-4 variations. We did see the five mans, essentially a variance of the 46 "bear defense. We have some awesome personnel to do some crazy rotations, and we do a nice job with the personnel, but we could do so much better with looks. Howard and Mitchell are guys that are tweener lb/safeties. We have a shitload of guys who are combo lineman/lbs, and safeties who can play corner and vice versa. I hope at the very least, the vanilla looks left with Marshall and Cable, and Bres with Biekert and Woodson will be a difference maker. I hope preseason is an indicator too.

"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Jun 15, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn't believe some of call made by Marshmellow in the Red Zone !!!!

When he called for a zone the first time I damn lost my voice yelling at the TV !!! Couldn’t fucking believe it !!!! I mean really, WTF was he thinking ??? And I’m sure AL D., took a GOOD, HARD, LOOK, at his play calling and the situations, in which those plays were used, which made it quite east to dismiss his marshmellow calling azz. I remember in 3 games, Jacksonville being the last, where Marshmellow called for the bonehead zone inside the red zone, one being inside the 10 yard line !!! Unfuckingbelievable !!! Even though I’m not the biggest of fans of Chuckie 2, i feel his concepts of play calling are better, and the defense will benefit from that alone !!!!

by papabegood on Jun 15, 2011 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I know this has to be true
I’m sure AL D., took a GOOD, HARD, LOOK, at his play calling and the situations, in which those plays were used, which made it quite east to dismiss his marshmellow calling azz.

and Chuckie’s track record in the league, including here, show results to support he’s more aggressive, and that we will go that direction too. I love that it’s a reuniting of Biekert and Woodson, such huge gametime sideline presences, with Bres. Otherwise, things wouldn’t be looking too bright for us right now. The addition by subtraction of Marshmallow and Haluchak should do wonders.

"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Jun 15, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Nam is back

I would love to see a lot of Man to man, but if not then I think we need some more zone. Routt did well, but I doubt CJ’s ability to play as the #2 in a man D.

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Jun 16, 2011 12:02 AM PDT reply actions  

i think we need more zone either well

routt is right. playing man to man for a full game is hard as hell. theirs no reason defense has to be that hard.

Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!

by naq92 on Jun 16, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Al love the old school man D

and still believes it is the best way to do things. We will play almost all man coverage this year regardless of the personnel, but I agree, we need a lot more zone. We need to mix it up and bring blitzes from all angles.

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Jun 16, 2011 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right now, I have way more faith in CJ to play man than the LBs or safeties to play zone

This is such a happening tailpipe of a party. Like sugar, the guests are so refined.

by Rich Langford on Jun 16, 2011 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brilliant point

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Jun 16, 2011 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's times like these when I am reminded how insightfull you are

This is such a happening tailpipe of a party. Like sugar, the guests are so refined.

by Rich Langford on Jun 16, 2011 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't even take that

into consideration… I hope we can mix it up well enough to play to our strengths.

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Jun 16, 2011 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is actually a really good point

but it doesnt have to be one or the other exclusively.

If you dont trust the LBs or safeties to play zone for more than 4 plays a game, you need to replace them. With anyone.

Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!

by naq92 on Jun 19, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like man to man defense

I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up.
Long live Al

I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time.

by Ozraider on Jun 16, 2011 1:07 AM PDT reply actions  

"Everyone in the league knows what our game plan is."

He is absolutely right by this statement!!! That is why teams have had their way in beating beginning with that Super Bowl lost of Tampa Bay. Jon Gruden knew how we play and what we were going to do and the coaching staff did not change anything. What make this really sad also is the coaching staff not making adjustments during the game or at half time.

by Archangel25 on Jun 16, 2011 4:55 AM PDT reply actions  

As a former CB I always preferred Man to Man coverage, I preferred stopping the man in front of me...

However, many Corners come out of Zone systems and get drafted or signed based upon their physical stats, vertical, 40, blah, blah, however, to play man requires a different kind of play. It is based on leverage, angles, and positioning, of course you need speed, however, if you understand leverage pressure points you can take a WR’s speed away from him, one of the best at this was Aeneas Williams, a great Hall of Fame caliber Corner in my opinion. Because of the size of many of todays receivers its important to understand how to take the advantages away from the Receiver. When your corners DON’T have this ability now you have to play different schemes of Zone so your DB’s don’t get beat. However, when you can find that combination of Corners that can stand on their own period, you can release the Cracken on the QB…lol The Raiders have had the benefit of Nnamdi and Routt, the problems were weaknesses at LB, DT, and Safety, so if we don’t get corners that can stand on their own we will need to change the way we play D or it will be ugly.. Hopefully, the Raiders can get Nnamdi back, and we can improve at the Safety positions. Look if your Safeties don’t instill fear your corners are toast, why, because WR’s will use the middle of the field with no thought of it, however, if they know crossing that Middle you may run into Ed Reed, Troy Palumalu caliber players they have to THINK about it, thus the advantage goes to the CB… I prefer Man defense, I hope we can find and maintain players with the skillset to play man on the corners so we can continue to do so, we really need improved Safety play as well. Without the players capable of playing man, we need to change our D…In my opinion…Go Raiders!!!

by Rodney Sacramento on Jun 16, 2011 5:14 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree the safety position needs help, and it wo uld help the entire defensive backfield

I fully expect to remain predominantly man to man, and I prefer it as well, but I do like to mix it up very randomly. If indeed everyone in the world knows what we’re going to run, than if you line up and make qbs and coordinators think it’s man to man with looks and imposters, than it gives us an edge.

Can’t wait to see what the new coaches bring. I’ve become more convinced we won’t seek any lb help in free agency, and it seems the players and coaches are leaning towards the things like lack of consistency, and maturing lbs to fix the run defense. We shall see. Either way, I can’t wait! GO RAIDERS!

"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Jun 16, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

you are wrong our safety's

are the best duo in the NFL do they look bad some times yes. but i know you understand how hard it is to play man from the safety spot. Huff only gets 3 picks because our defense he is always single high. Branch is always on the tight end. ED and Troy both play in a zone defense they are free to roam side line to side line.

by Micheal Y on Jun 16, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have been over this point often, and tI agree to an extent

but there’s something to what Stanford is saying about their ability to do it most of the time. The great teams have been able to with some consistency, and therein exerted their will on opposing offenses, dictating what they called in effect by taking away their playmakers. I think we can still be that defense, but believe all the positions, especially backer and safety need to improve. I agree that our guys are good; but I’m not sure we’re utilizing their strengths as well as we could be. We show flashes, but the coaching situation should make it all better.

"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Jun 16, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

typed, I have to agree to an extent...

dunno wha happened…

"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Jun 16, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

its hard to do playing single high man all game long.

like you said if we use our players right we could have a better defense. I think better play at OLB would improve our safety play. Ed and troy play with good and great LB’s we have an average MLB with below avg OLB. so that makes our safetys second guess on every run play. games in which we stop the run our safety looked real good/ (All the afc west teams we looked good) If we dont improve our olb it doesnt matter who we have at safety.

by Micheal Y on Jun 17, 2011 4:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree Michael Y, I will say they are decent safeties, however, when the Raiders had big hitting safeties...

our defense was ranked in the top 10 in the NFL. Our safeties do NOT apply crushing hits, thus no one gives concern about crossing the middle on us.. The Raiders have always played man, Tatum, Atkinson, McElroy, Dorsett, all would lay the big hit from Safety Position. Our safeties may statistically look good on paper, but everyone gets up after they get hit by these guys…Our safeties don’t get game planned when they do, we have arrived at that position… My hopes are that Coach Hue and the D can get the best schemes to be effective, as long as we win, I am cool…Go Raiders.!!!!

by Rodney Sacramento on Jun 17, 2011 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

MichealY makes a valid point, "better play at OLBwould improve our safety play" ... no question about it.

But that is basically a truism. I prayed we’d draft a Safety like Sands or Jarret and was disappointed. There are available excuses for Tyvon, Huff, Eugene, and Brown but none satisfy; we need a beast back there. Every great Raider team has had two magnificent players: at Center and at Safety. We are not quite there.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 17, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

who plays single high in the NFL beside us

No one. So its unfair to compare Huff and Branch to all the other guys. If we want win a super bowl change up the coverage. think about what you are saying you want a beast at safety but its not like we are going to use him as a game changer he is going to stay deep most of the game and then have to make open field tackles. How often does troy make open field tackle next to never because his LB’s take care of the take so he is free to roam.

by Micheal Y on Jun 17, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know you cant hit

in the NFL if you touch someone you are fined. you are talking about the 80’s that won’t win games today. teams game plan today you have to change things up. when was the last time someone had a top defense playing man to man. No safety in NFL is laying knock out hits in the past you could hit them even if they dropped the pass. now there is all these rules.

by Micheal Y on Jun 17, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

And those long runs that account for us being rated 290th in rush defense (?) have nothing to do with Safety play?

I’m well aware our LBs are the overall weak element but our Safeties are next.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 17, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you don't think playing so much man to man is the biggest weakness.

Followed by a weak DC who can only call man to man coverage. Why does everyone act like there is nothing wrong with playing so much man coverage. You can’t win a super bowl TODAY with a one trick pony defense.

by Micheal Y on Jun 18, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've yet to see a learned study proving that man coverage causes weak rush defense vis a vis zone coverage

The problem is in the 2nd Row, primarily, and how much of that was DC fault? Not sure. But when our Backers are being taken out of play by opponents and their own poor judgment it’s not entirely convincing to lay the whole thing at Marshmallow’s feet. The Safeties also whiffed their share and were taken out of plays in the same fashion. Our DL and CBs are notches above those two elements.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I did the (2010) draft. ... I made a trade for Seymour. Gave up the first-rounder this year. I could tell you why. You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/1911]

by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 18, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Fact that the rest of the NFL doesn't play man has nothing to do with it.

and being ranked behind the colts isn’t enough to make us try something new

by Micheal Y on Jun 19, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, when your D line, Linebackers and Safeties are good, playing man becomes much easier...

Corners are in shape to run all day, that is what we do, chase receivers all game…However, playing man requires the D line, LB and safety play to be able to apply pressure on the QB, knocking him down every play, sacks, etc.. Without that playing man makes the game very long for CB’s…So, If you don’t have all the pieces to play Man, then you need to change the D until you do…

by Rodney Sacramento on Jun 16, 2011 5:19 AM PDT reply actions  

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