Oakland Raiders Training Camp Recap and Pictures 7/28
by Rich Langford on Jul 29, 2011 4:50 AM PDT
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The Oakland Raiders training camp has already cranked up to full speed. And apparently full speed is too much for Darrius Heyward-Bey and Bruce Campbell. Both players had to sit out Thursday's practice with various undisclosed injuries. Great start for those two. Jump over for better news and some great pics via the Raiders Twitter page....
The Raiders are intent on training there guys in all kinds of ways. Also, apparently the south has Rolando McClain used to some intense heat. I think I might've had my sweatshirt off for this one.
I've never seen this next work out:
John Henderson took some time hitting the heavy bag, and he ended up hitting the showers next. Henderson limped off the field early. The injury is not expected to be serious, and was somewhat expected.
Henderson wasn't the only one taking a turn on the heavy bag.
Richard Seymour pretended like the heavy bag was Ben Roethlisberger. That wasn't all Seymour was hitting.
Rookie Taiwan Jones via Twitter:
"Took a good hit by big Seymour, made a few mistakes but the good thing about camp is there's 2mrw. We getting better play by play."
Of course it was non-contact and the players weren't in pad, but Big Rich had to welcome the rook somehow. Hue Jackson reportedly was cheering Seymour on when gave the rookie a little jolt.
I have no idea what Hue is saying to Campbell here, but it was probably a little constructive criticism. Vittorio Tafur reported that Campbell was not sharp on Thursday.
By everyone's account, Tommy Kelly came into camp in great shape.
He looks like it, too. He was one of the players I was most worried about letting the lockout go to his waist. Great job by Kelly he really has turned his career around.
Here is a sight we can probably get used to:
Wisnieski blocking for the Raiders QB. Let's just hope he was doing it the right way because his uncle looks like he could still kick some ass.
This is one of the best sights of camp:
Or maybe it is the worst. Get off you feet, Chaz! You might break something.
Stanford Route reportedly got toasted a couple of times, and once by Jacoby Ford, but he looks to be in great shape on this play.
Tyvon Branch got a lot of run at free safety
Jerry McDonald tweeted that Hue Jackson said he could play there. To which I say, "Nooooooooooooooo!"
There is a new presence at the Raiders practices this year: Al Saunders.
And Saunders was reported to be all over the field running, yelling and just generally going nuts. All in all, the practice was reported to have great pace. Much faster than last year's Camp Cable. Hue Jackson is cranking up the intensity level on these guys.
The highlight of practice may have been this:
The sprints. There are global track meets that don't line up field with this much speed.
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I don't worry about Routt getting burned by Ford
That’s because every corner that is in front of Ford is going to get torched this year. I’m excited about this kid more than anything…he showed flashes of greatness…not just competency but actual greatness. If the line can give Campbell the time he needs to let the WRs get downfiled…watch out.
I hope we give Stevie Brown a look at FS…as much as I respect Hue’s opinion…I don’t think those positions are as interchangeable as he eluded to.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
Tyvon can play FS
he’s like Kirk Morrison either going to be great at coverage or run support but not both. His role at SS was run support so he was beefed up and playing with the hit mentality. He was a CB/FS in college, I don’t see why he couldn’t handle the role. Maybe it will force our Defense to ease up on the single high saftey.
"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."
-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha
This
Tyvon has the awareness to play FS. Plus I want Mitchell to start for god sakes!
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Louis and Jacoby
are going to have big years. Chaz will too if he can stay healthy.
"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."
-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha
There is also reports he did look sharp. Marty James of Napa Valley Register said:
Campbell took the field Thursday for the first day of practice and looked sharp running the offense in 11-on-11 matchups. He completed a 25-yard pass to Louis Murphy, a wide receiver, and connected with Jacoby Ford, a receiver, on a pass.
DHB
Not to sound negative but i’m glad DHB is losing reps right now. Let our best Receivers our there show what they can do and take over.
Can't worry about where people are playing in the 2nd practice of training camp
First of all, the Raiders only have 65 of an available 90 players at training camp right now, so there is plenty of room for additional players at every position. Secondly, we all know that the Raiders have been negotiating with S Dashon Goldson, who obviously would become the starting FS if he were signed. Thirdly, its the 2nd practice of the year!
Branch has the wheels to play FS, but I don’t know if he’s got the vision and instincts to do it. On the other hand he’s shown to be an above average SS in our base packages, even if it means taking time away from Mitchell. Not that it matters a lot, the Raiders have to play their Big Nickel package so often that Branch and Mitchell end up being on the field together a ton.
DHB having balky hamstrings doesn’t surprise me at all, Bruce Campbell being hurt all of a sudden came out of nowhere. Hopefully the Raiders are still negotiating with Jared Gaither.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Goldson is good. up and coming guy.
I can see Tyvon getting cut to sign goldson…. but I’ll support that because I really hope the raiders get goldson. but sad that it is tyvon….
but thats just a side thing. I think Branch would be able to play FS. I dont know if he’ll get the INTs, but I think he has the ability to cover well.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
McGahee is a Bronchoe
3 years 7.5 milli
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Well Now We get To See If He Can Really Take A Huge Hit...
Not an every down back…100/380yds last season…
He will probably have a couple of good games but he is a part time back for sure.
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Matt Moore to Miami
Orton trade officially dead
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
i wouldnt say that
matt moore isnt that good
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
mistake by miami. once again proving the constant undervaluing of orton!
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jul 29, 2011 9:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
true maybe Denver decided to keep him
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
I can't believe how Orton gets disrespected
I feel sorry for the guy.
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
no kidding. 13 wins as a rookie, guy must suck!
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jul 29, 2011 9:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel sorry for the guy.
At the end of the day, he’s still rich though.
Clippers own staples center!!!
by ClipperBEAST on Jul 29, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Screw JJ's CowGirls...
Cowboys | Nnamdi Asomugha in sights
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:44:51 -0700
The Dallas Cowboys are reworking contracts to open salary cap room so they can make a strong push to sign free-agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha (Raiders). To make the necessary room to add him, the team would also release CB Terence Newman.
Jerry Mac answered my tweet
I have been basically begging him to tell me if he knew we were still talking to Nnamdi and this was his response.
@MattyFnSwagger Best approach for Nnamdi fans _ assume he’s gone, then make fun of the media if he stays.
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
I think this at least implies that Al is still trying
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Hard to say if he is really putting in a real effort
As he said in his press conference for Hue…he can get a few players with the money Nnami commands.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 29, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
well if we end up with
Miller Gaither and Cromartie i could live with that.
I know Cro has his faults but with Rod Woodson coaching him I think he could get back to his probowl form of 09. Thing is that if he happens to go to Dallas Cro will probably stay with the Jets.
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
He Was Already Cut Though Right...He Would Have To Be Resigned -n- "No DickCount"s...
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah but pretty sure he wants to be in NY
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
"MuleHead" In Denial...
Broncos | Do not have deal with Willis McGahee
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:06:48 -0700
Updating a previous report, the Denver Broncos have not reach agreement with RB Willis McGahee at this time.
from shefter
RB Willis McGahee reaches agreement with Denver on a 3-yr deal for $7,500,000, including $3 million guaranteed.
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Dammit
I’m out for a couple of hours, hopefully my absence brings us luck.
I know absolutely nothing about this guy but if he is fast I say sign him up. - Me 2011
I think it's about time we all just agreed that NaS is the greatest of all-time. - Me 2011
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Ha! Ha! "SadFranchise"....
49ers | Frank Gore putting team in tough position
The San Francisco 49ers are in a tough position with RB Frank Gore, who is holding out for a new contract. Gore, 28, has a lot of miles on him during his career, and many of them have been tough yards because of his running style and the team’s previously weak offensive line. He has also missed time with injuries, and is coming off a season shortened by a fractured hip. All accounts are he is fully healthy from last year’s injury, and Gore has a history of rebounding from injury problems. However, at this point in his career it may be difficult for the 49ers to commit a lot of additional money to him. Gore’s base salary in 2011 is 2.9 million, plus he would earn another $2 million from a roster bonus.
Let's pair him with McFadden
Haha… yea right…
Niners might be the worst team in the NFL this year….
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
ive always thought he was overated
i would try to trade him if i were SF
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Coming Off Cracked Hip...Ouch!!!,...Hard To Trade That..
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
im sure they could
get a team to give up a 5th, Pats would probably do it
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
gore
reportedly wants 8 mil a year… Ha… Niners are in a tough spot.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
there are still some good backs out there
Bradshaw,Addai,Benson
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Ray Edwards signed a deal with the Falcons
Did anyone else figure that something like 40 of the top 80 free agents would still be available at this point? I thought that teams would want guys in camp ASAP and 90% of the good free agents would have deals by now but I guess some might have deals that aren’t announced.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
"KC" Looses "DT"
Titans | Shaun Smith agrees to terms
The Tennessee Titans have agreed to terms with free-agent DT Shaun Smith (Chiefs). Terms of the contract were not disclosed.
Nice
With this and Vrabel retiring they are looking thin at D.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
He Wasn't Doing Much But That's less Depth...
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Captain
and superbowl champ, that means a lot to a young team.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I Hope He Takes That $$$$ That Was Slated For Nam....
Jets | Talking with Eric Smith
The New York Jets have had negotiations with free-agent FS Eric Smith (Jets) and have made an initial offer
Less money to target Nnam!!!!
Nnam probably told them its not gonna happen so there gonna start signing more guys now
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
The Falcons
Are going big, holy crap they are going to be strong.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Saw a tweet saying goodbye to the Raider Nation and I got a little misty eyed
thought it was Nnam…turns out it was Thomas Howard…I feel better now.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
I already miss grad and t how :(
i’m trying not to look at what the QB chart’s gonna be after Campbell goes down behind our obviously thin o-line….
hope d mac was serious about those career goals this year
GangGreen nation
is reporting that the Nnamdi signing is in the bag, and they are talking to Huff… Ouch…
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
its bad reports though.
I cant remember exactly what was said, but the reports are not very reliable according to a few of the jet fans..
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I noticed they suck
at citing sources… Jumped the gun a little there.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
yeah..
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
i wouldn't lose any sleep over huff
i REALLY want to see mike mitchell line up at SS… highlight big hit reels pending… goldson branch and mitchell seems like we have safety covered…
its the cornerback/o-line i’m biting my fingernails on…
our oline will be fine
we are gonna sign gaither
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Talks are we are going after Luiti from Arizona as well.
That would make our line a solid unit we would just need to fill the RG spot with Campbell, Carlisle, Barksdale, or Langston. I honestly like all of those options, and we would be well on our way to building a bully.
I dont know if barksdale can play RG...
but he does have the measureables. =/
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I think he will be fine he said he can play anywhere
and if nothing else we can give him a shot in camp to see how he handles it. I personally want Bruce there because I think he is going to be a beast
id like bruce there
but we need him at camp first… =/
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
no not really.
the RG is less important than LG, but imo, RT is the easiest spot to fill, because they are usually facing run stuffing ends and not pass rushers. Guards have to deal with inside blitzes, and he has to take care of the tackle and maybe DT (when the tackle has to take care of a blitzing OLB). its not easy but its not better than LG and LT. imo
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
They are focusing on run stopping ends
but they also have to be the best run blocker on the line which is why I love the idea of Veldheer there iif we are able to sign Gaither. I am honestly getting excited for the possible line we will have.
Indeed.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
there
gonna be crushed when he resigns
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
accept Nnamdi isnt that type of guy
hes gonna stay
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Where are we on cap space?
We were 14 mil over, and I do not believe the reports that we are now 20 mil under (especially since we haven’t cleaned house). Anyone have a close to accurate number?
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Nam's Dead $$$$ Dosen't Count...Whimbley Is Restructuring....
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought
we were 14 mil over after Nam came off the books. We were in the 150mil range last year.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
His hands are already shot
what more do you want
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
by S Jay Bruin on Jul 29, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
too much.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
1 mil? stop it.
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
i kid i kid. XD
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
lol
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you, that's a pretty wild swing of where we may or may not be
Hard to know what to believe, especially since we haven’t done anything in free agency so far in terms of signing or dumping guys.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
by S Jay Bruin on Jul 29, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea
even with restructuring some deals, that would only free up so much. Routt, Seymour, and Wimbley all need to be re-done.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
its from
the NFL network and colin cowherd
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Even More When Whimbley Restructures His "FT"
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
How can that be when we were originally said to be the most over the cap. Is the NFL just really bad with math?
by duballers23 on Jul 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Clause In CBA...Nam Was Out Prior To The Deadline Around 3/10/11
Therefor nothing counts forwards….Al knew it but other owners were evidently in the dark….
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
the dead money was huge
and Al is a cap genius
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
i respectfully disagree...
Moss for a 4th round pick instead of Aaron Rodgers… giving away a 2nd rounder for hall, then dumping him, effectively just giving away the pick… drafting Gallery, Russell, DHB, Huff, etc with high 1st round picks… doing deals with Lucifer Belicheck… firing Gruden… getting next to nothing for Woodson…
not quite the most savvy businessman in the game… but maybe he’s a cap genius n I’ve overlooked THAT
Hahaha you just pointed out 5 ot 6 bad moves
out of a 50 year NFL career. And you didn’t even get those facts right. I think you may be barking in the wrong forum.
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Jul 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Have to admit that Russell was just a gawd-awful pick
and we saw that as a symbol of eroding abilities.
But everyone makes huge boners once in awhile, eh?
Russell was a great pick
that didnt workout,he was the consensus #1 pick
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
when he made most of those deals back then they looked good on paper
Some people just decided not to work hard after they got paid.
just the recent ones...
i love the raiders… not a huge fan of Al… I wish he’d give the reigns to the coach and let him at least draft… Cable had a great draft when he gave him free will to do so…
i will say our 4th rounders are killer lately… i just hate committing money to people I know beforehand are huge busts
Al's 2010 draft class was widely considered
one of (if not the) best in the league. There is no way Cable had free reign to that draft.
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Jul 29, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Al Davis doesn't give any coach free reign over personnel
They have to talk him into it. You can’t pin all the bad draft choices on Al and give credit to the good ones to someone else.
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Jul 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
bottom line...
when Al quits drafting track stars and starts drafting football players…. give me a call and tell me how genius he is…
but the Bo Jackson pick was the best pick in NFL history…
I don’t hate the guy… but the game’s changed and he still drafts like we’re in the 70’s… didn’t realize Al was held in such high regard on this forum haha
as long as they can do their job well
I could care less what the 40 time is. Stop judging the picks based on speed, and judge them on their production. Some of the guys Al got were not that good, but he made some great picks (that had fast 40 times too). So just because the guy may have the best 40 time, doesnt mean al will sign him. otherwise all of our drafts would have extremely fast guys.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Jacoby Ford
Darren Mcfadden and Stanford Routt
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
louis murphy, chaz schilens(when healthy)
Zach Miller has good speed, as well as Michael Bush. decent speeds.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Click On My Name...That Says It All...
Al Davis is the “GodFather” and born the same year as my departed father…I’m “OldSchool” and disrespecting a man who has done as much for football as Mr Davis has done is pure childish ignorance…
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
im done bashing Al... k...
but we could have had Aaron Rodgers at QB… which would have defaulted to Calvin Johnson at WR (the actual consensus best player in that draft)… I saw DeAngelo Hall blow it… but holy shit at just cutting him… you saw the Cutler game last year haha… assuming they held on to him nobody would be bitching about Routt and Hall… (and it just doesn’t make any sense at all to throw away a 2nd round pick and cut the player you get from it) … and we’d have made several playoff runs lately… all just from making deals that made perfect sense at the time… but you’re right… past is past… the draft made sense this year and last… maybe he’s getting his 5th wind
ok
Calvin Johnson was the consensus best player in the draft,but Russell was the consensus #1 pick
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
many teams could have gotten a better player
but thats all in hindsight. pretty unfair imo.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
yeah i wanted Russel at the time too, nobody knows the future.
If we didnt take him though then i wanted Joe Thomas. Megatron would have been amazing but he was my 3rd choice in that draft.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jul 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Waiting got me bummed the hell out.
I want Nnamdi. Period, end of story. The team wants him. This waiting is killing me. We aren’t even being mentioned…… I’m so tired of the waiting. Just sign already, because I’m starting to get pissed off.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
In The Report They Said..."NYJ/SF/Houston -n- Another Team Can't Be Mentioned....
Hope that was us….
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm hoping
unnamed mystery team that no one seems to want to report is us, and the tools don’t want to admit they’ve been wrong about the possibility he’ll be back since they wrote us off long ago.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
by S Jay Bruin on Jul 29, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Schefter said look out for a twist earlier this morning
That twist might be that he’s not going anywhere
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 29, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
That is what I am thinking.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah he may be trying to get gaither, goldson, and miller back.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I would take that trade
Nnam for those three
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Jul 29, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Routt is fine.
CJ SUCKS.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Funny...When he Left He Couldn't Make It In The Zone...Back In "M-M" He's Good...
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
In Man Press,
He can’t tackle, and he gets beat all the time In inside deep bombs. So Ford AND DHB will beat him.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Rodgers and Wilson
are still free, they are both a lot better than CJ and wouldn’t cost 10% of the payroll
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Signing Nnamdi will probably negate all 3 of those guys, if not then two of them.
I dont know. I want to sign Nnamdi and gaither. its tough to choose imo
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Wouldn't mind
Also wouldn’t mind seeing us grab B. Edwards and Cro for the same cash they are throwing at Nam.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Cromartie... love him...
Edwards…. ehem… not so much…. don’t we already have enough wideouts with speed that can’t catch?
Ha
He is better than anyone we currently have on the roster… That’s not saying much.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I'm sure we won't be saying that when we see how good Ford is in his second year with more playing time
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 29, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
murphy and ford
are monsters… murphy moreso than ford… ford’s hands aren’t ideal… i’ll take murphy over edwards any day though…
David Ausbury Has Also Been Moved To "TE"...Better get Used To It....
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he'll be our WR/TE tweener. I love receiving tight ends.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
2 "TE" Sets With Both A Threat...Nice...
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
vey
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
raiders interested?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
where do you get your raider tweets
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
Miami's love for their team is like fucking some dudes wife. You knew its wrong but.. it just feels nice
by Mr. Know it all on Jul 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Posted On This Board On Another Thread...
Bro…I’m 10.000 miles outside USAirSpace…Thailand/Cambodia….I’m hardly getting long distance “Tweeters” over here…
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I Thought You Would Know That...You Know All...Right!!1
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
can you imagine how muc hshit i have gotten about that over the years
enough to make a man made creek, knee deep
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
Miami's love for their team is like fucking some dudes wife. You knew its wrong but.. it just feels nice
by Mr. Know it all on Jul 29, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No need to waste money on a clone
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 29, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Harvey Dahl
signed to the Rams. 4 year deal.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:04 PM PDT reply actions
COWBOYS FOR NNAMDI: SMOKESCREEN
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
Miami's love for their team is like fucking some dudes wife. You knew its wrong but.. it just feels nice
by Mr. Know it all on Jul 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT reply actions
link
https://twitter.com/#!/mattmosley
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
Miami's love for their team is like fucking some dudes wife. You knew its wrong but.. it just feels nice
by Mr. Know it all on Jul 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
o_o...
Hmmm.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Go For Stroud.
Stroud is a good D-Lineman.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
As well as the tackle Nick Kaczur.
He is good depth.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya!!!...They Traded For Albert And Now Have All His Huge Cap Hit Against Them....Stupid Move...
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
already forget about that defensive player of the year award a DT earned couple years back?
Haynesworth on the Pats is scary as hell… I hate Belicheck… that asshole has like 4 or 5 1-2 round picks next year… and they sign Ochocinco and one of the best DT’s in the league that disliked his last coach…
i do think it’d be funny as hell if they gave ochocinco anything but number 85 :P think he’d change his name again?
Everybody doesn't realize that Haynesworth was a GREAT move.
I would take Haynesworth for a FIFTH ROUNDER. Shoot. And, he ain’t playing nose Tackle. That is another huge aspect.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
What About All That $$$$$ That Follows Him...Great For "DC" Who Got Out Of It...
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
he is getting 5 million this year.
and the pats can restructure next year, or if Albert plays very well then they can have the option to trade him.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Plus All That Bonus -n- Garenteed $$$$ That "DC" Signed Him To....
Everything now counts against "NE"s Cap….
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don;t think the Pats
are worried about that.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
here
Crumpler: $500,000 cap hit, $1,995,000 cap savings
Kaczur: $875,000 cap hit, $3,095,000 cap savings
Warren: $5,270,844 cap hit, $203,106 cap savings
and if albert plays very well, then its worth it. like i said, we can always try and estructure or trade after this season.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
*restructure
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Point Is The Cost Is Much Higher Than A Few Late Round Picks...
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And the Pats
are not worried about that.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Per FOX Sports’ Adam Caplan, Albert Haynesworth forfeited his guaranteed 2011 salary ($5.4 million) by skipping 2010 minicamps with the Redskins.
Thus, the Pats can release Haynesworth quickly if he becomes a problem and be on the hook for zero monetary commitment. It’s still not a “no-risk” deal; New England did surrender a future fifth-round pick while gambling Haynesworth will be a good soldier in their 3-4 defense, something he refused to be under Mike Shanahan. The Patriots play 50 percent nickel alignments, and we suspect that’s where they’re hoping Haynesworth helps the most. Jul 28, 8:41 AM
Source: Adam Caplan on Twitter
link: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2636/albert-haynesworth/1
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
no risk. thanks for playing. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Indeed. XD
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Did You See This...
Patriots | Seven players released
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:15:37 -0700
The New England Patriots have released TE Alge Crumpler, OT Nick Kaczur, DEs Marcus Stroud and Ty Warren, LBs Tully Banta-Cain and Ryan Coulson and CB Tony Carter.
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1TWdtbKLo
by PantyRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i know about those.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
He'll Restructure.
Do not deny the Genius of Robert Kraft.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
he still hasnt finished the paperwork to change his name back to johnson.
and Chad is getting #85, and Herndo(previously #85) is getting #81. AT least thats just from a report.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
oh and here
Crumpler: $500,000 cap hit, $1,995,000 cap savings
Kaczur: $875,000 cap hit, $3,095,000 cap savings
Warren: $5,270,844 cap hit, $203,106 cap savings
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
alge crumpler, ty warren, and nick kaczur.
I’d love to have alge crumpler on the raiders as our blocking/some receiving TE.
I also hear its a restructuring thing though for warren and maybe the other two.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
THIS!!!!
Raiders | Nnamdi Asomugha agrees to terms
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:40:40 -0700
The Oakland Raiders have agreed to terms with free-agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha (Raiders) on a four-year deal. Financial terms were not disclosed.
LINK NOOOW
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Is what i expect to see sometime soon!!!
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
o_o..so..you lied.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Just F*ching fine. -_-
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
it seems that one guy here on the "six reasons nnamdi wont leave" post
has a foot in his mouth now. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Raiders | Nnamdi Asomugah contract update
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:47:57 -0700
Updating a previous report, the Oakland Raiders have agreed to terms with CB Nnamdi Asomugah on a four-year deal worth $80 million with $35 million in guaranteed money.
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
stop messing around. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
WTF?
20 mil a year? How come I can’t find this anywhere?
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
What are you doing?
You’re getting you and everybody elses hopes up so we can be crushed lol. I
by duballers23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
he should be boiled in oil now....
DAMN YOU RYAN!!!!
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
i was bored and thought it would be funny
and it was lol
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 29, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Scott, Pace, Moore, and others
to make room for something….
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Denarious Moore
is gonna turn some heads when he gets some PT… fits that Louis Murphy mold…
who wants to take the over-under on Demarcus Van Dyke though? reminds me of DeAngelo Hall without the ball skills… better question…. HOW GOOD is Rod Woodson haha
Shefter on Nnamdi
Less money for Nnamdi: Cowboys reached agreement with Marcus Spears on a 5-year, $19.2 million deal.
im not believing another word you are saying. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
You've become the Rodney Harrison
of posters…will need to work to get your rep back…was pretty funny though.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
You can't take Nnamdi's name in vain! you're banned!
exiled for life. I am sending all of your pertinent info to Al Davis, too. You’ll never cheer for the Raiders again.
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Jul 29, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
okay..... but you still have not redeemed yourself. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
AGREED.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 29, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously
A joke like that needs to be followed with a two week ban from the site
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Zach Miller
If anything, let this day end with a Zach Miller signing! I’d hate to mess around with losing the only guy on the team with great hands.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
Jets sign Aso.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
nvr mind... heard wrong...
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
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