I Believe That Nnamdi Asomugha Wanted Out Of Oakland
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 AM PDT
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PrintThe first thing that came to my mind after seeing that Nnamdi Asomugha signed for 12 million dollars a year to play in Philly was, "Routt is making 10?". Then I thought, hold on, Nnamdi voided a HUGE deal to become a free agent and then signed for millions less to go to a team that has a better track record over the past 6 years, the Eagles, because he sees them as having a chance to win it all.
I believe that Nnamdi made his intentions quite clear and the Raiders acted accordingly by signing Routt and drafting more possible replacements. Remember, Nnamdi was not much of an elite prospect when Al drafted him and moved him to corner. In short, AL went to work to re-tool his team without #21.(Funny sidenote, 4 of the Top 10 corners on the market, Nnamdi, Carr, Buchanon and Fabian, were all drafted by Al.)
Nnamdi, said that he wanted to play for a winner, and I think that he just left a winner that he knew for a winner that he doesn't know.
I don't hate Nnamdi for leaving Oakland and I appreciate all that he did while he was here. I mean, heck, if it weren't for him, there would have been ZERO good stories to come out of Oakland for a four year period. But, what I have done, is moved on. I don't root for or miss players that want out of Oakland. To Nnamdi, I say, "Good luck in Philly and I hope that Jacoby burns your ass in the Super Bowl".
What are your sentiments Raider Nation?
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I wish nnamdi personal success
but I will not be rooting for the philly “dream team”
(look up vince youngs latest comments, doesn’t sound like a guy who just wants to come in, work hard, build up his reputation to me)
that’s my last word on nnamdi, he wanted out, he’s out, fuckim (i mean that last word in the nice way, but fuckim nonetheless, he is not a raider)
by lchristmas on Jul 30, 2011 11:24 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
thats what i been sayin since the season ended , but also al wasnot willing to overpay to keep him , which is not a bad thing , weve over paid for too many guys in the past and it hurts us
were a good team and are better off with players who want to be the answer , who want to be raiders , rather that be the rich kid who has to buy their freinds , there are plenty of guys who want to take us to the next level
Yup, that's how I see it too. What makes me bitter though is his lack of faith in the direction we've been moving since
Bruce sparked the Return to Excellence in the ‘09 Cincinnati and Pittsburgh games … that we don’t have a real shot in the near future. Maybe he doesn’t like Hue or Seymour getting major love and respect that dwarfs him by comparison. Still scratching my head that he bailed just when we are really moving in the right direction.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 11:28 AM PDT reply actions
That's what bothers me the most, too, S-O-B...
He was almost singlehandedly the one bright spot during the dark years. He stuck it out and didn’t ever complain, which in this day and age is pretty much unheard of. Why not keep riding that wave when the days they are a-changin’? You’d be part of the change! And you’d look all ten-feet-tall-and-bulletproof to the fans and other players because you stuck it out. Because you believed. I know that sounds all Homery and romantic, but damn! Why work that hard to make a team look good and then walk when the rest of the team starts looking like they’re syncing up with you and going to make a serious run at The Commitment again? It’s almost as if he was just trying to make himself look good while he bided his time and collected an obscene amount of money from the Old Man…
He had me fooled. I really thought in the end he’d still be here. One of the few, I guess. Oh, well.
But now that he’s gone the blinders are off. I hope we get to the SB and win a ring or three without him. And fuck that “I wish you much success, Nnamdi” BS. I hope the Eagles keep being the chokers they’ve always been for the rest of his playing days. You could have worn silver and black your whole career, Nam. But in the end you just went all green around the edges. Thpth!
My final breath shall be a howl, a howl with words in it: a howl singing of torn flesh and warm blood and cracked bones and death.
by WickedEvilMojo on Jul 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SOB are you serious turning your back that quick
I am not mad Nnamdi he is gone. He played for us for eight years we never built anything. We went 8-8 last year. This year we don’t have a TE, FS, any improvement at OLB, Our Oline is still not proving, no improvement at WR. All of these things are because Al always over pay players. When he gave Hall that huge contract he could have lock Nnamdi down for 8 years no lets give it to a guy who isn’t even proven in our system. AL knew last year should have signed Zach but no lets give Routt a big contract because he improved even when Zach has be really good since he got on this team. I see us going 5-11 we had a poor Draft he didn’t get anyone that is going to win games right away. Our passing game is depend on a group of guys who have never caught over 40 ball in a season. This isn’t building a bully Hue has the right frame of mind but he does all the right coaches. Does anyone here think our DC is even a top 20 DC in football ? No I am so sick of everone talking like our defense lead us to the superbowl. I really think Nnamdi left because he wanted to win and go to the HOF and those are two things that want happen until we get a GM and a DC.
by Micheal Y on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was Asomugha who turned his back. He's dead to me now, I won't brook hearing his name in my company
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What was he suppose to do
Al said he could get 2-3 people for what he was paying him. That right was signs Oakland didn’t want him back. I remember a thread you guys had saying we could do without him now he is gone and everyone is sick.
by Micheal Y on Jul 30, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was a sign Oakland didnt want him back
at 18mil
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Who gave him all that Money
Al Davis no other team came close to 16 million a year.
negotiate a good long term deal ... but he was unwilling. Why? because he's greedy and also (we now know) always
wanted to be an Eagle.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do you guys never blame AL Davis
I am just wondering. No matter how dumb of a deal we do AL is never at fault. Now everyone is saying he is greedy. SOB every player that goes to a teams says I always wanted to be there. Albert said the same crap when the Redskins signed him. Al shouldn’t be the teams GM anymore bottom line. how can we be over the cap with an 8-8 team. That is on the GM. Seymour wouldn’t have gotten that contract any with the Pats but Al says okay. Tommy Kelly AL says Okay. We have a poor developing program in oakland because we have been hiring the wrong Coaches who hires all our AL Davis. I am not putting our new coaches down but must of them have never coached being good at a position doesn’t mean you can coach it. We will be lucky to go 8-8 this season with all the loses this off season.
by Micheal Y on Jul 30, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Al gets his fair share, e.g. "-". But, even JaMarcus (there, I've invoked his name) had almost everyone, including
coaches and pundits, bedazzled. Al has taken a lot of heat. But this time, with Nnamdi, No, that doesn’t go against Al Davis – that’s all Asomugooga who wanted to go to Philadelphia (of all places). A line from a man for all seasons comes to mind, Thomas Moore: It profits a man nothing to gain the world and lose his soul, but Richie, your soul for Wales?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
wtf are we supposed to do if not "turn our backs?"
im not an eagle fan, fuck their org and all in it
by lchristmas on Jul 31, 2011 3:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Everyone well knows I was as hopeful to keep him as any, but if ANYONE wants out, then gtfu out... thanks for your time
I want to see DHB burn his ass now! lol GO RAIDERS!!!!! The youth movement begins…
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
DHB will burn him
followed by a dropped pass
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
lol ouch.
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by Marcus Allen Krause on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Where's the...
“I fully understand why you’d want to leave our team after dealing with 8 years of bad management decisions, and I wish you the best in the future.” poll option?
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
by slapchop on Jul 30, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
We're Not THAT team at the moment:
the Raiders are on the rise because of good management decision and drafting.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 30, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
I agree with you, but I also understand his desire to win now. Not to mention that I personally wouldn’t put this past Al Davis to fuck up all of our progress in one fell swoop. I don’t have the faith in him that old school raiders fans do.
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
- 1
right where you placed it (and it’s at zero now). And that attitude you endorse would expose as someone who didn’t play a major part in the Raider Renaissance, taking no pride in it or believing in it – being merely a passive guy on the roster doing his job but not investing himself in the culture.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He could have taken his place alongside willie and lester as an all time great raider cb
now he’s just another mercenary with ookie and vy in the fat mans stable, exiled to mookland
fuckim, next man up
by lchristmas on Jul 30, 2011 11:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Meh.
I feel like that’s an accurate way to describe Nnamdi. Nnamdi never acted like a Raider, he acted like a Nnamdi. I feel like there’s a certain gusto that comes with being a true Oakland Raider. Guys like Tim Brown had it. You knew it when you saw it. I never saw that in Nnamdi, but I don’t hate him for that. I’m not bitter, and I appreciate the time he spent here. I can’t fault him for wanting to play for a team that has a more stable environment. It sucks for us, obviously, and I would have loved for him to stick around. I’m not surprised and I’m not angry about it, though.
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
+111111111111111111
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
to each his own cult, mine's not about individual players just the Raiders
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
well said sir
youre with us or youre not
and we know where he is
by lchristmas on Jul 31, 2011 3:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont mind a man wanting to leave to have a fresh start on another team...
but this comment “Nnamdi, said that he wanted to play for a winner, and I think that he just left a winner that he knew for a winner that he doesn’t know.”
kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. No need to slap the faces of your past teammates by saying such a comment. Theres no guarantee he will have a winning season just because of the past success of the Eagles. Farewell Nnamdi, we will be just fine without you
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Jul 30, 2011 11:43 AM PDT reply actions
8-8 is not a winner, nor is 5-11 , 4-12 or 2-14
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I can see why nnamdi wanted to leave
pay seymour more than him, pay routt 10 million
and this way i think his hall of fame possibilities shoot way up
I love the raiders, but people just dont take the raiders seriously
if he can get some picks with the eagles and get a few pro bowls of all-pros
that would greaaaaatly improve his chances of making the hall
and thats what i would care about as a player.
because he’s a free agent now, and the highest ranked free agent on the market
wouldn’t you want to test your value?
by SanJoseRaider on Jul 30, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Jerry Mac said that Nnamdi leaving was a "conscious decision"
it’s become pretty clear that there was no way in hell that we could re-sign Zach, Bush AND Nam.
Nnam was the sacrifice that will enable us to sign these guys and Gaither sounds logical to me.
It would be great to be in a fantasy world where we get everything we want but unfortunately that is not the case, it’s time to get over it and realise the decisions made were in the best interests of the team.
The best thing about it is that Nnam made the media look like frikken morons – now thats Raider.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
by Ozraider on Jul 30, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I wish him luck
But, he is just a cornerback. Cornerbacks don’t win championships——offensive linemen and running backs do—-defensively, linebackers.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
You must didn't watch the Green Packers
They have 3 playmakers a Corner. You can’t beat them So corners do win big game if you have a real DC. Al keeps hiring DC that call single high man to man. YOu don’t really need DC for that. I believe if we had a Better DC last season we would have been in the playoff.
yeah and 2 of them were UDFA's
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
No way we are going to the super bowl
We don’t WR’s the Oline or the DC on defense. I am a Raiders to the Heart but how have we improved enough to beat teams like the Jets, Pats, Colts, and Steelers. We aren’t even on those teams level and the superbowl goes through them. I am not mad at Nnamdi this same thing with Charles Woodson. Woodson is a HOF now he wouldn’t have been if he stayed in Oakland. Because Man to man single high won’t get you there. We need an up grade at OLB, we need to improve our Oline, We need a Vet WR, Jason has to step up, Our Defense has to stop the run. We have so many holes and on top of that we are going to lose zach miller.
Nnamdi told his agent that he always wanted to be an Eagle so get a deal done.
He also told that to the Eagles. Go to Espn and check out the video on Nnamdi’s reasoning. Makes me want to puke. Freakin trader.
This is a kick to the nuts
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
"always wanted to be an eagle"
fuckim not in a nice way but with a sharp stick.
eagles added to long list of teams I hate? check.
by lchristmas on Jul 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
PROBLEM WITH YOUR STANCE
There is one major flaw in your argument. Nnamdi didn’t void his contract, the team did, based on certain incentives that weren’t reached.
I think that, regarding this situation (which is all about money), I as a fan hoped for one of 2 things: either give it to Nnamdi (who deserved it), or let him go, and maximize that money by signing 2-3 guys that will make an immediate impact. So far, the team hasn’t made a big splash, nor have they even been mentioned in relation to anything exciting. That’s pretty disappointing. But, I do have to say that, if he’s healthy, the signing of Jared Gaither is an uspectacular but solid/great signing.
(BTW, did they actually sign Gaither? I know it was pending his physical, which is a big deal since he missed all of last season with the Ravens with a back injury.)
by Brian J. Flores on Jul 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT reply actions
Bad news on Gaither, if this is true
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/29656/clayton-gaither-out-barnes-in-for-raiders
My final breath shall be a howl, a howl with words in it: a howl singing of torn flesh and warm blood and cracked bones and death.
by WickedEvilMojo on Jul 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank You
Al Davis over paid him them wanted him to take less for the same job. Really who would do that. If we didn’t play so much man coverage we wouldn’t have to pay so much. We didn’t find any one to improve our team. Derrick Mason would improve our young WR’s. Because Zach miller is gone he was our passing game.
Got a problem with your stance
Nnamdi signed a contract with a voidable contingency condition. Therefore,it was in his own hands more than “the team”
As a fan of Oakland? Sounds more like you’re a fan of Nnamdi first and the Raiders second. Enjoy the Phili games this year.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Follow the thread; it was Nnamdi's decision to go "I always wanted to be an Eagle." (gag me)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay whats wrong with that
The Jags head Coach always wanted to Play and Coach for the Raiders does that make him any less of a head coach. No!! You guys act like he Lebron James Oakland. Al Over Paid him and then cut his contract. If All would have game him a 7 year contract for 70 million he would have been the highest with a long term deal.
No, that makes Jack Del Rio smart and noble. Al did just fine for 30 years and hit a slump ... he's out of that slump
so you need to get on board. This is not the time (there is no such time) to jump ship.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I am A Raiders Fan bottom Line but I won't call
Nnamdi a Trader. If he wanted to play for the eagles thats fine. When he played for us he always showed up when he played. Thats all I ask for any Raider
Its "Traitor"
A “Trader” is the guy who mountain men got whiskey from.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
Nnamdi is both. He trades himself like a whore making him a traitor
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I can dig that
He is a Trader Traitor. A man who doesn’t even have whiskey that I would want.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
With few exceptions, I'll never trust a man who doesn't drink or hold whiskey
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Take 10 dollars from petty cash
and get you a shot of Laophraig. Its the least I can do.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
I got love for AL But
He is at fault for the Down fall of this team. Everyone gives him credit for last years team, but forget he traded john Gruden, made Marcus Allen sit on the bench, Looked past Tim Brown when he tried to help our WR’s. The list goes on.
Bottom line the NFL
is a business First Everyone knows you have to hire the right people in order for your business to grow. I am not sure we have the right Staff top to bottom. All the teams that are winning have a system that works. We have some pieces in Oakland but really need a GM first. We didn’t improve at all this offseason and we haven’t picked up any free agents. We have gotten worse on paper. How can people come out and say we are going to the playoffs.
Time out. Most agreed that the OL was the biggest weakness (though I had our LB corps a close 2nd) and we addressed
that with our 1st and 3rd draft picks. I agree that the LB situation is scary. Brown is horrid and Groves is marginal.But Goethel is back and the FA isn’t over yet. Plus, our coaching changes were a huge improvement.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 30, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck him. You’re either with us or against us, no grey area there. I wish him the worst, may his career burst in flames.
Wow. Nnamdi was nothing but a class act in Oakland who gave the Raiders some incredible years despite playing on a losing team the entire time. How can you guys turn on him like this? He just wanted to go to a contender and get the ring that he deserves. Why are you all so angry?
he said
he always wanted to be an eagle
by RyanTheRaider on Jul 31, 2011 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions
yep
and I hope he doesn’t get that ring that “he deserves” (what a.crock of shit)
by lchristmas on Jul 31, 2011 3:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what I am asking
my Fellow Raider Fans. However, it is the fact that we believe that we are on the cusp, and for some it shows a lack of faith from his part.
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jul 31, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
We are contenders. It's obvioous he thought otherwise
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
^This^
He put in a lot of years with the Raiders, and this is arguably the best team in Oakland that he has ever seen. There is a lot to be said about loyalty. Money isn’t everything—-particularly when you already make a Kings ransom.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
Just got done listening to Nnamdi
as much as I now hate him as he is an enemy, still love the way he handles himself. But … and this is big for me … he WILL NOT be wearing 21 in Philly! As far as I’m concerned, the Nnamdi I knew and loved as Oakland Raiders 21 is now a thing of the past. And, with all of the wisdom Raiders (Al Davis) put into corner selection, hopeful that a new Oakland Raiders 21 “of distinction” shall arise in the near future! GO RAIDERS!!!
who cares what number he wears
if its an eagles jersey
by lchristmas on Jul 31, 2011 3:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You guys are so delusional. How can anybody blame Nnamdi for leaving the Raiders and going to the Eagles
How is he greedy when he is making less money now? How would the Raiders have given him a better shot at winning then going to the Eagles?
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 31, 2011 12:53 PM PDT reply actions
Loyalty and Honor.
All his move did to me is reinforce the notion of mercenaryism. Despicable.
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