Zach Miller is a Seahawk
by Ionnes on Aug 2, 2011 2:29 PM PDT
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PrintSite Note: Well Zach Miller has flown the coup. This was the one thing I didn't expect to happen.
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"Miller, the tight end who was one of the best remaining NFL free agents available, has made a surprising decision to sign with the Seahawks after it looked like he would stay with the Raiders, ESPN is reporting. The Raiders took Miller in the second round of the 2007 draft, and he’s been their starting tight end since. Last year he led the Raiders in catches (60), receiving yards (685) and receiving touchdowns (five). Miller will be the Seahawks’ starter at tight end, and perhaps Tarvaris Jackson’s most important receiver." Well this season is pretty much tanked.
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well thats just poop.
Time for myers to step up with ausberry.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Hey I didnt say he was definitely signing you know.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
You haven't posted shit on here until today
And now you telling people I told you so.
Fuck off back under your rock bro
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
you win the "lots of time on his hands" award
as well as honorable mention “thinking people care what I say”
pick up your prize next neverday at the corner of nobodygivesafuck and zachandnnamdineverwonshit
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Wow compelling argument
considering it didn’t do shit to discredit me or credit the guy who tried to. You win my personal “Haters goin Hate” award. Haters inspire me
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lebron and t.o.
have “haters”
youre some guy on a blog
“haters inspire me”… hilarious
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Hahahaha
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Some guy on a blog
still not doing anything to discredit my argument.. You’re just some guy on a blog hatin’ on a guy you seem to think little of.. #selfesteem. Haters inspire me
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haters gonna hate
non-constructive arguments = hater.. #hatersinspireme
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it wasnt an argument
i was just saying you sound like an idiot
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
true
if it was an argument it would have a point that matters. #hatersinspireme
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if it was an argument
there would be a point period
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
i was just showing you how your
dumb ass insult was,well a dumb ass insult
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
#hashtagsaredumboutsideoftwitter
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
im not trying to "discredit" you
because I don’t care enough to. im making fun of you.
your futile efforts at seeking validation here and your #hashtags are more than a bit pathetic and embarrassing to all the raider nation
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
what's pathetic is how much you care about someone you are trying to discredit
#hatersinspireme
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Seriously dude
Do you even watch the games, you talk like a casual fan who is workng of name recognition
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
We have TWO of the best offensive minds in football in Hue Jack and Al Saunders and a glut of talented receivers and backs
I loved Zach as much as anybody bt this loss is FAR from insurmountable.
The initial emotional reaction is understandable but take a step back have a think about it and have some perspective.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
How is Hue a great NFL offensive mind
dude has failed as an OC 2 out of three times.
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by R3ZZ on Aug 2, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
right because his negative history shouldn't count against him
#homer.
#hatersinspireme
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do you know any thing about the teams
he was OC for? you want to go all the way back to 2003 and say hes a bad coach now cause he was 8 years ago?
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
what miraculous thing changed in him since then?
a shitty job as an OC in Atlanta? There’s a reason “one of the greatest offensive minds in the league” wasn’t an OC until last season
#commonsense
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by R3ZZ on Aug 2, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Coaches minds and gameplans change over time
through experience and personnel.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
one year with one of the easiest schedules in the league going 8-8 is enough to disprove his entire history of bad OCing?
#homer
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by R3ZZ on Aug 2, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You also seem hellbent on wanting us to fail
too bad you won’t get it. Who will you hate on then?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
sorry
brhynno i am happy as a broncos fan but i understand everyone anger
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
no worries, J-man! always good to hear from you, sir
I still think we’re gonna deliver a beatdown on opening Monday night that sends a message to the league about how serious we are about a playoff run and the division, but Foxy will be a formidable coach down the road, and is already doing things to reverse the McDaniels damage, I believe.
Think you’ll go after Osi?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
i wish
but Denver cant give up their 1 round pick top5 or top 10 a good deal wouild be a 2 in 12 and a 3 in 13
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I could see that. awesome profile pic, bro!
never saw that one! I saw all the ones from your FB following that trip. Was it in there?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
i think it was
tagged not sure
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
not just that but
he had a big QB controversy through the 1st part of the season
and an unproven defense. And well… the offense was unproven as well.
So its more than just having an easy schedule. And going 6-0 in the division is no easy task.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Oakland
can compete in the div the key is winning the games they should not win
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
that's right.
as much as i am also a pats fan, I honestly would like to see oakland beat the pats, simply because that means they are well on there way to a playoff caliber team.
but im still rooting for both.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
When did he fail?
He was great in Baltimore and was Brilliant here last season.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
maybe your the one that doesnt watch football
Redskins 2003: 22nd in offense
Falcons 2007: 29th in offense
he wasn’t OC in BAL he was a QB coach
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Why do I get the impression I am arguing with a15 year old?
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
you lookin in the mirror bro?
everytime your argument hits a dead end you just insult me.
#hatersinspireme
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no
you just seem so idiotic we have to point it out
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
he's more smug...
he feels that when he is right, he must annouce it to make everyone look bad. Hell… i have been right about seymour, but I dont stomp on people(metaphorically) about it.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
just hating cos you were the one that was wrong
#creditwherecreditisdue
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I have been wrong before,
and anyone who knows me here knows that I admit when Im wrong.
Your just smug. people tend to not like smugs.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
don't care if anyone likes me
don’t you know?
#hatersinspireme
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Ah I see.
Then you know why no one cares what you have to think anymore. lol
But you could lay off on the smugness. We are here to debate football and the offseason, not to point fingers and laugh at each other with each move going on.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
noone cares what I thnk
still got trolls tryna bring me down
#hatersinspireme
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You can say "I knew it" or something.
but you take things way too far. You basically spit in people’s faces saying that you are right and they are wrong.
You gotta let up a bit. This blog is meant for debates, and speculations. It’s not meant for being smug about how much you are right.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
And what else?
You are also rubbing it in to people.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
you didnt.
Just saying to lighten up. thats why this whole thing started.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
only started because you were hurt enough to start it
don’t hide ya feelings bro
#truintentions
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Im not. lol
So why are you attacking so much now? The only reason I can think of is that you like rubbing it in….. we know miller is gone now, and we are going to deal with it. You were right, and most of us were wrong. YOu seem to not get that picture. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
You don't hate on us, or Al, ever. These guys deserve a team like Seattle and Pumpkin head and Carroll
epic losers, who scream “hip, hip, hooray” for barely beating the Chiefs and getting back to 500.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
by brhynno on Aug 2, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't respond
He is basically just trolling for responses now and we ate probably distracting him from his homework and will get him in trouble with mommy
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
i get that too
#hatersinspireme this doesnt help him
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
and in 03 the skins were trotting out good ole' Patrick Ramsey
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
trotting out Jason Campbell with 2 weapons is so much better
#smh
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2007 Falcons had just lost Vick and had their HC fired after 13 games
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
dam a minute late
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
#excuses
ball out on the Redskins shitty performance under him.. He’s still .500 as an OC.
#notqualifiedtobeaHC
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Question my fandom because I'm not on Al's Dick about every move he makes?
#realismforthewin
#hatersinspireme
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I call bs. You'd prefer we lose to vindicate your bs hatred of Al
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
call whatever you want
I don’t have to love every move my favorite team makes
#saywhatyouwill
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admit it. you care more about being right about your hatespouting than winning
and I suspect you’ll be back with your cut and pasted predictions of others that support your losing predictions.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
don't have to admit shit
I was right so I have the right to claim it. Just like If I was wrong you have the right to shove it in my face
#keepitreal
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sorry
you dont sound like a fan of the team
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
wreaks of a SD fan...
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
LOL!!
wreak |rēk|
verb [ trans. ]
cause (a large amount of damage or harm
wrong word for the win. You’re looking for Reek fool.
I don’t have to be a homer to be a fan
#SMH
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only a douche corrects grammar on a football blog
and you, sir, establish yourself as a douche in seconds flat.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
only a douche questions someones fandom because he doesn't hop all over every move like it's free candy
#rightbackatya
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you have to realize
you dont sound like a fan one bit
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment, hater
I have yet to see you be happy with one thing this team does. I suppose you’re gonna say our backfield sucks too, huh?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
nope. just never heard you say anything positive period
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
rash assumptions
#FTW
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2009/4/18/844162/theres-still-hope-to-be-found-in
don’t make asinine comments before doing your research fool
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nice! 2009! You're a true fan, bro
try not to hurt yourself patting yourself on the back
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
They are. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
shitty offensive line
a good running game and a bunch of bust receivers and a short receiver.
#mhmm
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The OL is average.
Murphy is good as well as ford, and our running game was #2 in the league last year, and our defense had the 3rd most sacks, and #11 overall last year.
I’d say more than pretty good.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
your right.
Looking at the offense though, we have scored over 30 points more than half the season. I want to say we are top 10 in points last year, and being #2 in the running game is pretty damn good.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
not more than half...
just a lot compared to previous years. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
excuses? isn't joey harrington out of the league?
how can hue do well with a qb that can’t even stay in the league?
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
2007 was the year the falcons lost vick to dogfighting
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
lol
this entire “arguement” just made my day
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
Damn. Sonned.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Aug 2, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
hope big al has a fucking plan......
a tad bit confused but i guess well have to wait and see….
Al seems to know what he's doing. I had a feeling this would happen after he fired Cable.
Smmfh.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
Yep
It’s hard to make a well-reasoned argument that we won’t be a 6, maybe 7 win team at best.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Sometimes you just have to take the pacifier away. This is Al showing tough-love to Jason who must finally throw
further than Zach.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
Yeah, I'm sure DHB's ready to take up the slack
fml
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
by S Jay Bruin on Aug 2, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
why would you do that? that makes no sense
The QB is the most important player on the team, why would you cripple his biggest strength?
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Because his biggest strength is his biggest weakness, ie. pathologically taking the high-percentages / short pass
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
this means our WRs have to step up even more.
I hope schilens is healthy enough to start more than 8 games at least…. and I hope taiwan and mcfadden become JCs security blanket if anything.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I just logged in and you took the words out of my mouth Jack.
We have big guys at tight end who I think will at least provide adequate blocking to help improve the passing game. It’s time for Meyers to step up with the rest of the wrs. You realize though that without Zach, that more experience has been eliminated from the o-line. I hate Zach for taking a dump on us. Feels like the rug was slipped out from underneath me in a way I never expected. SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop it Al Just is a Bad GM
Every Good QB has a good TE. AL didn’t manage the team right so he lost a lot of key players. He said we can get 2-3 players for Nnamdi and we are still waiting on 1 of them to sign.
by Micheal Y on Aug 2, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Thank you
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
That's monumentally stupid
Call it a weakness, but JC and his propensity to check down led us to our first non-losing season in a long time
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
WTF?
Thats a terrible excuse, your just trying to talk yourself into this being good. This is notthing but bad. The Colts never took Harrison away from Manning to take away his pacifier . You have to give your QB as many weapons as possible, not telling him tough it out
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
oh well
dont really care, would of loved to have him back, but he wont be needed as much with with running game being how great it is and the young guys stepping up.
If DMC remains healthy (not McBroken), and we sign Bush, we will have the best rushing attach in the league.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
with all the room they will be getting because teams will not stack the box
oh… wait.
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They tried that last year, and Reece, the TE, or some junior flyer would nab a 5-yarder and turn it into a big gain.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller contributed to that
linebackers or a safety would follow him so someone would free up.. I haven’t even started with how Miller’s blocking helped the run game..
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zach miller really stopped teams from stacking the box
do you watch the games or just pull predictions out of your ass all day, hoping one will come true so you can gloat?
next poster up
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
you're contradicting yourself
agreeing with me then disagreeing with me..
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when did I agree with you?
let me try it without sarcasm
TEAMS STACKED THE BOX WITH ZACH MILLER IN THE LINEUP OR WITHOUT AND WOULD HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO WITH OR WITHOUT HIM UNTIL OUR WRS MAKE THEM STOP
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
haters gonna hate
zach miller really stopped teams from stacking the box
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morons gonna moron
that was sarcasm. you fucking idiot.
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
#sarcasmidentification
taught by r3zz, you thought i was serious? i saw that it was sarcasm and used your stupid #crap back at you, as sarcasm, nice try
#HatersGonnaHate(incase you didnt notice i did it again)
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
you missed it again?
that sir, was also sarcasm.You did that to someone earlier remember?
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
was it sarcasm
or a failed argument you’re backtracking on..
#excuses
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you keep seeing arguments
were there are none, i was not arguing with you that your # was too long
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
what are we arguing about?
the length of your #? because thats all that comment was
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
you should stop using
- before you say someone doesnt know english
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i guess i dont know
english, either that or my shift key doesnt work all the time
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
who cares...?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Nope. I honestly don't.
Just thought I’d point that out to you. You can continue to correct english if you like, but its taking you nowhere. lol have fun.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
you can continue to try and hate
it only inspires me
#thnxbro
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Nah. Don't want to spoil your amazing grammar....
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
#inspiredbyhisownhate
and unparalleled douchebaggery. did I misspell something? Lemme do that for ya, so you can correct me agin.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
you missed a word, #internetscholar
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
thanks for noticing
you’re learning quickly how to type like a competent human being
#yourwelcome
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competent human being? please...
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
^ only one who cares. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
in reply to R3ZZ
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
That should be
“you’re” if we’re playing the nitpick game.
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
lol. he's providing a useful service here, guys
#bloggingisedukashunel
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
ill fix it for you since you cant see what i was trying to say
you should stop using # before you say someone doesnt know english.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't feed the troll
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
haters are people that hate people with succes
what makes you think im a hater? you have no success that i know of
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
successfully putting your arguments to shame
#hatersgonnahate
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if you don't think he's right, just ask him!
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
what facts are these?
and Im looking for football related facts, not grammar related facts. Just so you are not confused.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
it all started with the FACT that I said we'd lose Nnamdi and Miller
then it became FACT that it had in FACT happened..
#alldownhillfromthere
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Okay good. you called two of our players not being on the raiders this offseason.
So what do you want now? lol You want some type of award?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
lets give him
the #actlikeahoe award. boom.
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
We arent giving you one. lol
We dont get awards for being right, so why should you?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
They lied. :3
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
no im actually not. lol
there is no award. sorry that you must be disappointed, but people here dont get awards or recognition if they are right. Otherwise I would have awards myself…
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
how do you know?
my award is just seeing the haters hate.. They hatin for a reason.. Proclaimed awards are just a bonus..
#smh
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I've been on this blog longer than you have.
If there was awards, I would know of it. lol
But sure, you can see the “haters hate” and proclaim that we are unworthy of not being right about 1 to 2 players being here.
meh. whatever makes you sleep at night.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Oh big man bring out his seniority as a final gambit
I just told you what an award is and you kind of missed it bro LOL!!!!!
seems you have a complex for finishing arguments.. We’re both infected
whatever helps you sleep at nigh
#LOL
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Im only fooling around. lol
I didnt bring out my seniority as a final gambit. Just saying that if there were awards I would know about it. :)
But I’ll give you a S&B imaginary award “Haters gonna Hate.” WIth your username R3ZZ in-scripted on the front. You feel better? lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Good. Now I CAN sleep at night because
you got what you wanted for calling two free agents that weren’t signing on the raiders.
Now let’s see….. out of the free agent TEs who do you think would better fit for us? If we were to get one.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Ptsh fool I make predictions on my own time
don’t try to hustle the hustlah. I didn’t call FOR Nnam and Miller going to other teams I just called IT.
#deceptivewording
#puttingwordsintomymouth
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Just asking for your opinion. sheesh.
you make it seem personal. 0.o
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
right I'm the one making it personal
Good. Now I CAN sleep at night because
you got what you wanted for calling two free agents that weren’t signing on the raiders.
#smh
#deceptivewording
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hey you called that the raiders wont sign them and got your award.
You seem to be hating on me now…. all I did was ask what your opinion of who we could sign. meh
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
just lettin the haters know they hatin
back down from fights with the R3ZZ
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You beat me to it.
Somebody flag him and then we can just forget about this child
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
doesn't change the facts
point beside the point
#hatersinspireme
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You are not spitting facts
You are intentionally posting to aggravate and instigate right from your initial ‘i told you so’ posts – that is what is called trolling.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
thought you was supposed to be not feeding the troll
maybe he was talking about someone else
#shrugs
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i'd say 'infinitive'
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
it is really that insightful
that you “predicted” that 2 of our most expensive free agents this year would be gone, when we were massively over the cap this year?
#getajobatespnbro
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
you'd think it was that easy to make common fucking sense of the situation
not with these haters
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Saw them twice last year (getting rather beat up). I'm aware they were 1st in the league in rushing. Are you aware we were 2nd?
… and that we have even more rushing weapons this year?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
And handing two of your best blockers to Seattle makes this better how?
Passing attack is looking pretty dangerous too. Can’t wait for redemption. Peace!
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Agreed, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a sincere answer to indicate differently, but he wanted out
do you guys want to keep guys who don’t want to be on your squad? We certainly do not.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
No, we traded Gonzalez because he wanted to be somewhere else
but we got a 2nd for him.
I was just replying to RyanTheRaider – it seemed he was dismissing the loss of Gallery because he wasn’t that good. I pointed out that Miller was better than a lot of people thought (and I think he is still ascending).
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Miller is a great player and was underrated by alot of people
my point is losing him is not the end of the world
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
No, losing him is not the end of the world
But if Ford, DHB, and the rest of your WR’s can’t become consistent losing him might be the end of your passing attack.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Provided he stays healthy, he should continue to improve. Dude sells routes with the best of them
it’s how he got open so well and created great separation and found seams constantly despite not being the most athletic guy out there.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Zach took rushing reps away from DMC, Reece and Bush. We have many players to draw away defenders to open up the run
But Gallery followed his linecoach. Still, we can do better, e.g. Mario Henderson assuming the LG.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
His blocking and pass catching is a big reason our running game was so effective
With him gone it’s obvious what our playbook will consist of now more than ever.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Aug 2, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
sour grapes
this is a fucking disaster. I’m sick of being optimistic. We’re paying so much money to crappy players, we can’t even afford to sign good ones.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
that would be a good thing
we’d get some picks out of that. This…. this is just depressing.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I am not surprized .
Everyone here knew he was going to leave. We need a GM more than draft picks. Some how no matter how bad of a GM AL becomes someone will make sense out of it. AL has this great plan No he doesn’t. If we go to the playoffs it’s all AL davis but if we tank it’s going to be Hue jackson and Jason Campbell fault.
Im pretty pissed.
A lot of people got their Season Tickets in the mail today and this is what they are treated to…
The Raiders spit in the face of their fans this offseason. Its something i wont forget.
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Aug 2, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions
no passing game
Miller gone. DHB is sitting on the sidelines, not practicing. Kinda like he was “hurt” for five or six of the last games of his rookie year? He can’t catch a cold anyway. Murphy is not consistant, Ford broke his hand already, Shillens will probably be hurt soon, considering he always is. Who the heck is going to catch the ball. If they don’t sign a veteran free agent reciever or TE there is no way I am putting out a dime to watch this team.
I live, breath and breed Silver and Black!
Braylon Edwards?
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Steve Smith?
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Randy!
#hollaatchaboy
Dangerously? Yea.
by TooShort2Play on Aug 2, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
As I have been saying
We have multiple pass catching options now where as for a few years Zach was pretty much it. if Chaz is healthy you could almost call it a wash when it comes to receiving and we have some really good blocking TE’s in Myers and Gordon and it’s not like they cannot catch.
I have 100% faith in Hue and his ability to scheme this out I expect Marcel Reece to see some time lining up at TE along with Big Rich and David Ausberry. myers played well in his opportunities last season.
In Hue we trust
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
didn't you see the original post
seasons been cancelled bro turn in your gear and go home
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hahahaha
You would think so wouldn’t you!
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
I have just one question. Why?
The Seahawks, seriously? Tarvaris Jackson? The Seahawks really don’t strike me as a team that’s on the way up. I mean, they lucked into a division title (and playoff win) last year, Their QB is Tarvaris F. Jackson! I’m thinking Pete Carroll must have given him a hell of a BJ to get him to choose Seattle
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
They probably offered stupid money
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Not even, pretty reasonable
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I think they drafted a QB..... cant remember.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
then never mind. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
They signed Sidney Rice, Gallery gives them a potentially great offensive line
they are on the right track, that’s more than you can say about us.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Gallery
gives them a ok injury prone left guard
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I can see raider fans freaking out over zach, though I don't agree
but back surgery bob, a catalyst to greatness? are you fucking serious?
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
As a whole, yes
They now have a mix of solid guys (Gallery, Unger) and tremendous upside (Okung, Carpenter).
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Cable
Zack must of loved him some zoneblocking
Dangerously? Yea.
by TooShort2Play on Aug 2, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Anybody remember what Lecher said last January?
He said that many FA where unhappy about Cable being fired and that they where leaving. Well so far our 3 top FA all left, 2 of them to cable’s new team…..
Maybe Shame should join them. Al is cleaning house.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Disagree
You remember what it was like when we had very good teams except for the kicking/punting game? Cost us games which is why Al grabbed Lechler and the Polish Cannon.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
The ballet kicker we had in 09, he was quite good. Shame isn't worth it and he has a bad attitude. Hope he's next
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes let's get rid of all our good players
Sounds like a plan for success. LOL, and I’m the one who wants us to lose.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
We dont know how things will actually go until the season happens.
Am I confident? No. But we still have to see.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
by Jack'sAxe on Aug 2, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I will always root for the Raiders but I’m not drinking the kool-aid. What worries me is who is going to lead the team besides Big Dick? Our sucess this year depends very heavily on our young players.
I think Ro will step up.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm more concerned about who is going to step up on offense
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
We still have our running game
and even if schilens does not play, I am confident in Campbell’s chemistry with Ford and Murphy. And MAYBE DHB if they worked hard with each other this offseason.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I think people put too much faith in our running game. How many of last years starting linemen are returning? We WILL have a dominate running game, but our line is young.
i still think our line is better
then it was last year
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
we lost gallery, and we got better at RT
Wiz will have to prove himself though.
Despite that, McFadden is no slouch among the top 5 RBs in the league. Im sure our running game will still be effective. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
You say that like it's a good thing
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
The Contract
Zach Miller contract with the Seahawks: 5 years, $34 million, including $17 million guaranteed.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
Thank you. So now we know that Seattle paid him more than we possibly could - almost $7million/year.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
We coulda done that
Did you really expect him to just take 4 or 5 mil a year
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Yes, I thought 5/yr would do it with extra incentives. Not many TE make more than that, even the best.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well the I guess that was a naive thought
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
i had it somewhere between 5 to 7
but its only 17 mill guarenteed. its pretty much a perfect contract for him. he was just tired of oakland. im sure we had the money, he just didnt wanna be here anymore
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Again, he waited on us
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
The gave him more than Gates
Crazy
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
People complain about Al overpaying people
and they wanted us to give us Zack more then Gates? lol that makes sense
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I complain that Al Davis overpays the wrong players
Miller and Asomugha are worth overpaying. Not LB#96 and CB#26
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I think you are greatly u devaluing Stan and Kam
They ma not have the big names but were equally as important last year as Nnam and Zach
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
I think you're over evaluating them
you cannot possibly sell to me that CB#26 is nearly as important to our defense as Nnamdi. He was the beneficiary of Nnamdi’s insane skill set, before even mentioning he doesn’t take away the oppositions #1 threat..
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Nnamdi is the best
but we couldnt keep him, so we locked up Routt
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
could of kept him and let go of CB#26
without his insane contract we’d have the room to pay Nnamdi
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we couldnt keep nnam
he didnt want to stay, he always wanted to be an eagle
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
He waited over a week to hear an offer from us
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
something you say when you join the Eagles
#dontbelievethehype
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We aren't on twitter,
you don’t need to hashtag everything
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
Too bad Nnamdi didnt want to be here
and Miller left for the money, we couldnt risk losing Routt, and Kams deal needed to be done to take a run at Miller,they werent overpaid by that much.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see how anyone can say Routt was overpaid at 10 million
When Joseph got 9.75 and also with Kam he had 9.5 sacks and is only 26
Neither were over paid IMO
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Joseph is by far a better and more consistent CB than Routt.
One good season doesn’t make you better than a player that has been locking down WR’s for the last 2-3 years and was easily part of the best CB tandem last year. He and Leon Hall were actually better than Cromartie and Revis as a tandem.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Aug 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy God what are you smoking?
LB#96 has had two good seasons and three bad ones. Joseph is one of the best CB’s in the league, not something you can say about CB#26
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Routt is one of the best CBs in the league
i said it, and its true
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Routt is a top line Corner and Kam is a top line LB
And as I said on a previous post Hue can easily scheme around Zach not beng there’d wit all the talented youg receivers we have especially with Chaz looking healthy.
We have nobody that can give us close to what Kam does.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
you are blind
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Pass the kool aid
Some of you people have lost your minds. Wimbley one of the best linebackers in football? Routt one of the best CBs? We just lost one of the top three offensive players on our team. (Dmac & Ford being the others) to Tom the Cableguy and you people act as it’s nothing. Our offensive line sucked enough with one of the best blocking TEs in the game, who just happened to have great hands as well. How much are we paying that loser DHB, who has yet to practice with the team this year? You people on here can make all the excuses you want and say how it doesn’t mean anything, but you are wrong it does. The same people who say it doesn’t matter will be the same ones pissing and moaning about the team when we are just hoping to make it back to 8-8 like last year. You don’t get better replacing great players with average players. Losing Zach hurts, it hurts bad!
Snake belongs in the HOF!
by Tennessee Raider on Aug 2, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
What? WHO ARE YOU A FAN OF SIR
BURN THIS MAN FOR MAKING SUCH BLASPHEMOUS STATEMENTS
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
I'm a fan of a winning Raiders
team that I watched through out the 70s and 80s not what I’ve been watching over the last 10 years or more. A generation has now grown up knowing the Oakland Raiders as losers and not winners. That kills me! The reason we are not winners is crap like this. The Raiders used to be the Eagles of today. We went out and got the players we wanted, instead of teams cherry picking our best. I am a fan of winning. Just win baby, remember?
Snake belongs in the HOF!
by Tennessee Raider on Aug 2, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Today is more about scheme than ever before
I have faith in our coaching staff
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
The coach Jackson is great and
the position coaches are great, but coaches don’t play, players play.
Snake belongs in the HOF!
by Tennessee Raider on Aug 2, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
i think Stan and Kam were overpaid a little
But i understand why, we had no shot at Nnam and we couldnt lose both him and Routt, and Kam needed to be a little overpaid to get him off the franchise tag.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That's right. If we'd known the Asomugha had no intention of staying, most of the goings on would make sense
The hand-wringers today (most of them in the Jason Campbell cult) see Zach’s departure as a direct attack against their idol.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Gates will get a new deal soon
More then this one, he got his deal years ago, back then whatever he got seemed like a lot. Money in the NFL has inflated quite a bit
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
he was making a funny, chief style
though im not sure if the td he scored against them last year was that funny to them, but the chief troll is a strange creature
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And people wonder why I LOVE this team but HATE Al Davis to my core.
It’s starting to feel like 2006 again.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Aug 2, 2011 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
'Cause I know next year he'll overpay dramatically for somebody that's a horrible fit to the team and draft a definite bust and tell Hue to make it work or he'll be fired.
I swear I’m a closet masochist for being such a die hard fan of this team. Goddamn man.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Aug 2, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody posted this on here maybe about a year ago, and I think it's really fitting for right now.
“Being in an abusive relationship is what it’s like to be Raider fan. You pour all this effort into it, and you almost always get nothing in return.
They tell you they’re gonna finally change for the better and do you right. They show you some glimpses of a change coming. So you say ok and give them your love.
But what happens?
They just go back to doing what they do best. Fucking you over and ripping your heart out.”
Apologies to whoever said this originally, if I remembered who you were I would give you credit.
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
Chiefs
will be last in line…
Pride & Poise Raider Blog:
http://theoaklandraiders.wordpress.com/
by David Rockwood on Aug 2, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which
What’s the Chief’s count up to now?
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
Damn..
well from the sounds of Jerry/Cockran blog i feel alittle comfortable with where we are but this was a huge blow… this offseason we lose arguably our best Def. and now our best Off. weapons with no replacements. This is going to be a tough season but atleast we have a lot of new players who want to play for us….
Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden
well there goes are playoff chances
with zack gone theres nothing stopping teams having at leasts 8 guys in the box.
we get a 1st and 3rd round in next years draft right? shit this move actually could be good in the long run.
he was an UFA
we ain’t getting shit. Bush is our only RFA
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
yeah I was agreeing with you
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I think after seeing what kind of talent we have in camp they obviously decided it wasn't worth overpaying Zach
Until you see it on the field how can you make a judgement?
Do you really think that Hue can’t work this out?
In Hue we Trust.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
in hue we trust
Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden
This Is Prolley Why We Drafted A "TE" And Converted Another Drafted "WR" To "TE"....
Insurance in case this was to happen or perhaps with full knowledge Zack would be difficult to resign….He had reportedly already turned down $7 Mil Right…Than he signs the 1st offer he gets..
In Hue You Trust
I like Hue and believe he’s a good coach, but he’s a bullshitter.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
In what way is he a bullshitter?
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
He will talk up every single player as god's gift to football
he is Al Davis’ and the Raiders’ mouthpiece. I take most things he says with a grain of salt.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
by hero66 on Aug 2, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well he is a positive guy I am not sure that counts as bullshitting
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
There is a line where being positive crosses over into exaggeration.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Why Al?
You didn’t even offer NA a contract, and now you let Cable walk away with our most consistent player on offense? In the words of a legend “what the hell is going on out there?!”
by 3XSBCHAMPS.OAK. on Aug 2, 2011 2:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yup and said he wanted to be here
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Probably because he knows the Raiders like to overpay
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
wow....
Its about the cash , well next man up …..again.
Look at it this way now new players can step up and show up
we can get Kevin Boss for cheap and hes a sure handed TE either way id like the ball thrown at the WR this year
Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden
if Miller left because we couldn't pay him why would we be able to sign Boss
who is publicly wanting more money than he is being offered. Either way Scaife and Boss couldn’t touch Miller
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Miller left
because seattle gave him 7 mil a year
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
back to square one homie
Miller left because we couldn’t pay him
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that doesnt mean we couldnt pay him
it means we didt think he was worth 7 mil
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
and, much as he helps us, 7 mil is too much
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
gimme the boss, want no part of bo scaife
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2011 3:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Im not mad im prepared for a NEW LOOK raiders
its about time we strike fear with a run game and a QB2WR pass game, we will be wwell of
Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden
Free Agent Wish List
1) Sign Nnamdi
2) Sign Zack
3) Acquire somebody who can block
4) Acquire LB who can play run
5) In the event #1 can’t happen, sign veteran CB
6) Retain Bush
Well, we may still have a shot at our #6. Terrible, terrible job by Al so far. Truly set us back.
Who cares!
Both Gallery and Miller were injured last year and we faired pretty well without them. Not saying that we shouldn’t have resigned Zach but there are other players worth keeping then them. Boss can replace Zach and with that extra money, we can add Tatupu and maybe even Braylen.
I dont understand how people say that Routt didn’t cover the best reciever, when he actually did. He’s not a product of Nnamdi being on the other side, as he proved that he played well getting the majority of the balls thrown to his side.
Raiders For Life!
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Zach Miller says in phone interview Tom Cable called Saturday and promised Seahawks would make big push. Raiders deal never materialized.
So just like Aso we just sat there and didnt do jack shit
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
This Is Prolley Why We Drafted A "TE" And Converted Another Drafted "WR" To "TE"....
Insurance in case this was to happen or perhaps with full knowledge Zack would be difficult to resign….He had reportedly already turned down $7 Mil Right…Than he signs the 1st offer he gets..
Why should we? There was no chance Al would pay $7 million /yr to Zach (and I agree with Al on this one), Same deal with
Nnamdi
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
youd give 10 mil for routt but not 12 for nnamdi?
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
The Apostate wouldn't have taken 12 million from Oakland (he turned down more than that from the Jets and Dallas)
He said, “I always wanted to be an Eagle.” And he believes they have a better shot than his other suitors for the Championship.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Raiders can sign Tatupu and get either Samuel or Rogers
It can still be a successful offseason imo
In Hue We Trust
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Aug 2, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions
Guiterrez -
Just got off phone w/Zach Miller, says fair to say Cable was “tipping point” in decision
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Just got off phone w/Zach Miller, says fair to say Cable was "tipping point" in decision, which was not about money
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I still think we are better off without Cable
But damn I hate that our players want to go play for that fat bastard.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
There is a reason they do
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Because he's soft and they're lazy?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
That is really a dumb comment.
I know you hate Cable because you could apparently run the team better even with Count Chocula running the show behind your back but neither Gallery nor Miller are lazy.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Not in the world you're living in.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither are lazy at all
The only players who can be good nfl while being lazy are the incredibly gifted like Randy Moss, neither are him. Cable knew how to handle and treat his guys, they respected that. ’
And you know damn well neither are soft
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Soft can modify intangibles, like mothering / coddling players
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
This is such bullshit
What is your evidence that they are lazy? Or are you like everyone else here, you praise players when they’re here then piss all over them when they leave?
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Well, it was phrased as a question. Nonethe.ess, Gallery was blobbular and Zach didn't husle as much last year as the 3 prior
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
The bias towards current raiders then hate for when they leave pisses me off
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
depends how they leave. the disloyal one's merit abuse and dishonor
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I just got off phone w/ Zach Miller
He confirmed he is Cable’s lover, and the distance between Oakland and Seattle was just too much to bear.
I hope he stays hurt
by Not Jamarcus! on Aug 2, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
he better watch out
cable likes to abuse his bitches lol
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
wishing injury on one of the best TE's to ever put on the uniform
classy
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“wishing injury on one of the best TE’s to ever put on the uniform "
by Not Jamarcus! on Aug 2, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You said I hope he stays hurt...
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I'd wait to hear what we were offering Zach. It seems like Cable used some of his capital in Seattle to try and hurt Al
I think Al is a much bigger man than Cable; and the Seahawks paid too much for Gallery and Miller.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah because
Al spent better than half of a press conference eviscerating his former head coach when it was supposed to be about introducing his new coach. That’s a real big MAN. Cable said squat and left it at that which is the way it should have been.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
by Rusty23 on Aug 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cable set Al up by lying and not disclosiing. Al was only setting the record straight
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
We never offered a contract, ever
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Have no doubt it was made known to Miller what the Org was willing to pay.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh that's classy
He didn’t want to stay on a bad team, so I wish him physical harm!
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
I guess a team that's cheap, like KC, NE, can be considered a bad team. But, I doubt Zach though Oakland was a bad team
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Why are we a good team?
We were 8-8 last season and have gotten worse. I’m not “hating” or any of that garbage, I’m really curious. Of course I want us to be successful, I just don’t see it.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Have we gotten worse? Have we played a fucking game yet? gtfoutta here with THAT garbage
you seem to want us to be worse. And you’ll harp on it preferring vindication than to see us win. I’ll laugh when we win.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
What sort of gain would I get if we were worse?
Being right on the internet? I don’t give a shit about being proven wrong if we win. I’m saying we’re worse because we lost our best defensive player, our best receiver and a good blocker, and a solid offensive lineman and at this point will replace them all with worse players.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
We lost the NFL's best CB
A solid guard, a pro bowl tight end and havent signed any upgrades. We have gotten worse
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Clayton saying Seattle will trade for Giants Osi
By using Carlson and draft pick as bait
Say what you want about Carroll and the Seahawks
at least they’re making moves
In Hue We Trust
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Aug 2, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Loyalty to the pumpkin? Fuck off, Zach. I look forward to Seattle sucking ass for another decade with you on the team
and Pete Carroll will resume his losing ways this season, and it will look a little more like the stint with New England. I hate the seaChikens even more than ever.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Here we go....an ESPN wet dream
Man ,I hate the thought of Tom Jackson and those jerks at ESPN going on and on all season about how dysfunctional the Raiders are,how bad we are blah blah blah how Al over paid the wrong guys if We have a bad season….But I aint throwing in the towel…better to die on your feet like a Raider than die on your knees like a pussy…or a Seahawk..and remember they all hate us anyway. ITS GONNA BE SWEET LAUGHING IN THEIR FACES…lets try and remember its a team sport..
Well we are a terribly ran team
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
every team on the verge of something special has looked hard at its roster, determined who's rowing for the promised land...
and summarily jettisoned all cargo that isn’t. It’s an out and about way to find out, but like I said when Nnamdi left, if you don’t want to play for us, then don’t let the door hit you in the ass. Good riddance. TEs are a dime a dozen.
Zach did nothing but get open and catch balls and block well, but it’s next guy up, and I choose to believe a guy who will get paid much less will relish the opportunity and exceed expectations. Fuck you fairweather shitheads. Seriously, the Seahawks? I can’t wait for the epic failure.
STL and AZ will own that division and the other two teams.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
...
Zach did nothing but get open and catch balls and block well
Pssshh yeah that’s nothin, man! Why was he even here?!
Being real doesn’t make you a fairweather fan, and I’m sick of that fucking stupid mentality. Unless you have blind optimism you’re some traitor…GTFO with that garbage. The reality is that we lost arguably our best player on both sides of the ball and have done nothing to replace them. The reality is that the O-line and secondary are a mess.
Dismissing these problems as nothing doesn’t make you more of a fan, it makes you look like a dumbass.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
by hero66 on Aug 2, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was calling Zach fairweather. As for you, you just hate on your own team, so I won't respond
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Maybe YOU"RE the Fuckin' RAT!!
Good. Now you’re using your head.
by Not Jamarcus! on Aug 2, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It takes skill to get open like he did
Block like he did and catch like he did. If it were that easy every wanna be pro TE to ever suit up could play in the NFL
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Sky is not falling
First of all, it will be much better to have Hue Jackson as head coach than Cable—and I liked Cable. But Cable’s ceiling was probably 8-8. “We’re not losers,” he said. But we weren’t winners either. Read what’s coming out of camp. We’re much more intense this year. That matters.
Beyond the talent, football is about attitude and energy on defense and about game planning and coaching on defense. Jackson improves both of these.
Individual talent is largely overrated, outside of the QB spot. And even serviceable QBs can win titles. Zach was a fine player, but not the player Raider fans made him out to be. And definitely not the difference between a winning and a losing season this year. Tight end just isn’t as important a position as others. And it’s a position that doesn’t have guys with phenomenal and unique skills—unless you’re talking about Gates or Gonzalez, and Zach wasn’t one of those guys.
He’s a player who can be replaced.
Replaced with who?
Regardless of how good you may think he is, he is an above average TE who was a key component to our excellent running game, and was a security blanket that JC often likes to go to. Considering the fact that our offensive line is a mess and our WRs really aren’t that good, I will feel bad for Campbell.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Replaced with a player like Boss
Or replaced with Myers. Look, I’m not saying this isn’t a loss. I just don’t think this is as critical a loss as you seem to.
And I don’t think the O-line is a mess in the same way you do. Much of the last two years Gallery was out. Last year after Tennessee, the line was widely viewed to be a disaster. But it didn’t turn out that way, did it?
This is not a devastating loss.
Myers has hands of stone
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
His 4th down catch kept our drive alive against StD (1st game). But I've seen him drop passes,
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
+1000000
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
"Game plan and coaching on offense"
Correction for the original.
I CAN HEAR AL DAVIS SAYING ..
At least we’re getting ANDREW LUCK next year … wooohoooo. Its all part of my master plan
…since he’s such a genius …
I said it in the other post
Once Jacoby broke out the 2nd half of the season Zachs #s diminished anyways…We have the offenseive minds and playmakers to where we no longer NEED the crutch of Zach Miller
Would have been nice but the team has more pressing needs…
Like the O line, which was immediately addressed. TEs are a dime a dozen, and we'll get one to step up
I would’ve liked to keep Zach, but not knowing that he didn’t want to be here. What coach wants guys like that?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Exactly
When was the last time a Tight End led a team to the super bowl….
by Gregg Milhaupt on Aug 2, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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@ZachMiller80
Zach Miller
Thanks to the #Raidernation for their support the last 4 years. I know you probably already unfollowed
@shinranraider (me)
@ZachMiller80 hell yeah i #unfollow ed you. Enjoy Cable and your Magic Underwear, Go #Raiders !!!
John
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by Ionnes on Aug 2, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
HahHa
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
it just means our WR's
are gonna have to step up, which as long as chaz can stay healthy i have full confidence in. also i believe gordon will be fine in hue’s system, hes’ a huge man that ran a 4.6 40. if we do bring in someone from the oustide like a kevin boss then look for meyers to be cut soon too. i really hope we dont though. by all accounts gordon and ausberry have been doing great in camp thus far. the less people we bring in the more comp picks we get and by all accounts we got some great ones coming our way this next year. all we really need to do at this point is bring back walker, maybe henderson too, and instill toughness in the players we do have already.
David Harris
Just extended for the Jets….4 years $36 MM $29.5 gtd…..and you guys think we overpaid on Kam, not so sure about that anymore…Not grossly overpaid at least.
Harris is better then Kam
He is much more complete then Kam
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I for one am happy Al didn't sign Zack.
That is far too much and too many years for a guy who has had injury problems.
By the way, he was not a good blocker contrary to what you read on this site.
He consistently got manhandled when kept in for blocking. The experts were shocked when Miller turned down a lucrative offer from Al before the lockout, and pointed out at the time that Zack is a one dimensional tight end, good pass catcher, route runner but weak on blocking. The Raiders are now under the cap and have saved themselves from another high priced player which bodes well for the future. I agree with Al, a tight end is not a difficult position to fill, the Raiders have 3 on the roster right now. I think the Raiders saw this coming and drafted TE’s in the past two drafts.
His stats were inflated by th fact he was the only one who could catch for a few years
Not the case now we have meany weapons.
If we are going to freak out about something it should be the O-Line!!!!!!!
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
What pass-catching weapons do we have this year that we didn't have last year?
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Maybe schilens
Taiwan is a great pass catcher as far as I know. Murphy is a good catcher. Ford is good too.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Maybe Schilens
He’s the Rich Harden of football. You can’t count on him. We had Murphy and Ford last year. Plus, Murphy kinda sucks anyway. Taiwan is a wild card. Lots of speed, could be good, but you can only dump it off to the RB so much.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Murohy had a sophmore slump
but he did well with JaFatass. I think he’ll bounce back.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
murphy was on his way to
1000yds before he was injured
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Murphy is dropping passes in camp this year too.
He had better get his shit straight right soon.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Hope so.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
They said he is looking fantastic but has had a bad drop or two aswell
But TO has always dropped a couple here or there as well
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
thats great to hear.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm not saying he is as good as TO lol
Just making a point about drops
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
LOL!
I hear ya. But our young WR’s have a ton of pressure on them. Like Jack’s has said, they really need to step up. Sure hope they do!!!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Me too
I am running out of Kool-Aid lmao
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
HA!
I’m sipping it because I’ve been poisoned before. I still feel pretty optimistic but I really would have liked Miller to come back. Don’t like having a hole to fill. No matter how easy some think it will be, I don’t think it will be. Can’t do anything about it now though. Guess we’ll move on.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Well it's fair to say we have definitely lost some talent
What soothes me is my faith in the coaching staff.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
You know me...
I liked Cable but I’m OK with the move to Hue (if we were going to make a change to anyone, that is the guy to move to) and I like the way the rest of the staff has shaped up too! My hope is that this staff can run the asylum and that Al will give them the leeway to do things as they see fit. If that’s the case, we’ll have a few bumps in the road for sure but it could be a great ride!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I think the entire credit for the turnaround of the team can be handed to Hue
and Mike Waufle, Cable was evryones friend but not a real HC.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
I disagree with that.
After Cable took over, there was more fight in this team. You could see the difference on the field and on the sidelines. Yeah, they had some stinker games but most teams do. Turning around an attitude is much tougher than you think it is (unless you have had to do that with a team or business unit as I have then you won’t know what I’m talking about).
And if you give total credit to Hue, what about all of those games where the O was doing things we couldn’t understand/believe? He gets no criticism? He’s like Al jr. I guess. Good things are all on him but bad things must be everyone else’s fault.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
You're pretty much unrelentingly negative
Miller had injury issues as well. Does that mean we were right not to sign him. Dismissing Schillens is foolish. Dismissing Murphy is foolish.
You bring a baseball mentality to your discussion of football. But football is much, much less about individual talents.
The point is that Miller’s loss can be overcome. That’s not a pipe dream. It’s very realistic. Stop thinking you’re the one voice of reason here. You’re flattering yourself too much.
by RLangford on Aug 2, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
well said
this negativity is out of control
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
+1
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
lol. it was pretty rough for a minute there, but we came around, and cooler heads ultimately prevail, as usual
I was looking for ya, Rusty! You tend to be more realistic than negative, imo, and always have. I felt that some of these guys were two shades away from KC trolls for a moment there, but I don’t blame folks for being upset. Def cannot fairly do that, even if I choose to abstain.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
This move bugged me.
Easy to say that TE’s are a dime a dozen or that no TE ever took a team to the SB but let’s face it, he was a pretty important cog in the machine and now we have to hope to replace it with a similar cog. Might turn out to be easy or we might end up with Ricky Dudley part 2. Good for folks to vent now. Tomorrow, we look for a TE either from within or bring in a FA. If that person sucks, the sarcasm will flow on this board but I find that kind of thing funny (when I’m not weeping about a Raider loss).
On the very bright side, as Oz and I were discussing above, if they are given enough rope, this could be one heck of a (“one heck of a” said in my best John Madden voice) coaching staff so let’s let them sort it all out and do their best to give us a winner.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
still doesn't sit well, but the amount he was paid eased the pain some
and I can’t blame Zach for taking that payday. I’d venture to say TEs won’t see those kinds of dollars again for decades.
The staff is the best part, without a doubt. Instills a confidence where there isn’t always reason to have it. Believing is half the battle, I think, especially for the team, and I don’t question that Hue and company can get guys to believe in themselves, and more importantly, in their teammates.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
No were just be realists
We have lost key guys in our resurgence, it hurts us
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Schilens injury issues have been much worse than Miller's
Come on.
I’m flattering myself? All I just read is that Miller’s loss will be overcome without any reasoning, and then you insulting me.
Had we re-signed Gallery and Nnamdi I would not be this negative. But losing all three is absolutely hard to overcome, given what we’re replacing them with.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
And why is dismissing Murphy foolish?
The guy struggles to get open and struggles to hang onto the ball.
It’s easy to call me a bunch of names and dismiss my knowledge of the game, but I haven’t seen your argument here other than “you’re wrong”.
When was the last time Schilens actually held up? Being foolish is relying on him to give us anything substantial.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Murphy had a down year last year, but even that year was considered average.
Murphy did very well for his rookie year with J-Russ. I think he just had a sophomore slump but he has great potential to be a hines ward like receiver. I wouldnt sleep on him yet.
And we are just hoping Schilens is healthy for this year. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
McFadden and Reece also
Moore is showing good things as is Ausberry.
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Jacoby Ford
Once Jacoby Ford emerged as a playmaker Miller did not have another very good game….
by Gregg Milhaupt on Aug 2, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
If we’re building a bully, whats up with the O-LINE ..
Al's next move
Trade Seymour back to the Pats for a 4th round pick and a bag of peanuts then let Bush go to the Chargers. Sorry. Feeling a little bit cynical.
bush is RFA
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Yeah hes probably here to stay for a bit longer
He can either sign his tender or we can match any offer
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
na...
I was thinking can the loud mouth punter. He made a stink when Cable was fired and we don’t need any all pro players.
I live, breath and breed Silver and Black!
lol. that's reaching a bit. I still hope we fill the roster with another TE, and my vision of using Ausberry as a mismatch lined up flank materializes
we shall see. I still feel we’ll be much more explosive than last year.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Are there any FA TE out there??
Brandon Meyers is a new guy, that shows flashes from time to time, but someone has to be the TE on this team, and I am not certain he is THAT guy just yet. Is there anyone out there to teach him the ropes???
Alge Crumpler would be nice.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
He would be great here.
Sign him immediately.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
he's a lil old
if we’re forced to bring someone in id say we bring in boss, then cut meyers. i dont wanna really do anything yet though untill i see these rooks in a preseason game
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing is Crumpler was a tank last year with the pats.
Boss will cost quite a bit of money…
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
well if none of the rookies can step up
then we’re gonna have to him. besides i dont think he’ll cost us 7 mill a yr like miller just got. i think somethin like 5 mill a year is right. again though i dont wanna bring anyone in yet cuz if the rooks CAN step up, and we dont bring anyone else in, this could be a potential 4th rd comp pick for us
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Crump is a great Vet too.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
meh
gordon is pretty much a younger version of crumpler. same h/w/s combo but gordon is a lil faster
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Then bring in crump to mentor? :3
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
but then we lose the high comp pick! lol
i see ur infatuated with him, i just think we drafted two guys for a reason. might as well let them battle it out for a week or two and see what happens
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah I love crump. lol
he did catch passes from vick in Atlanta to…. so he can catch with those running QBs.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Crump can catch the f outta the ball tho, and Gordon has struggled in camp
and brought very few catches on his resume from school. Think he’s a blocking guy, and I believe we’ll look to get someone to replace Zach, and keep developing Myers.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
he didnt catch many cuz not many were thrown his way
miami doesnt utalize their TE’s much. plus camp reports from tafur have him doin quite well
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
well, I hope you're right, but I'd bring in a vet and feel better about catching abilities
but I’d love more than anything for some of these young kids to step up and surprise.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
TE really isnt a hard spot to fill these days
so im holdin out hope. i need this damn preseason game to be here already though
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
true, but outside of Gronkowski and maybe Hernandez too, who else emerged to say that's the norm, really?
you have to look hard.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
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i just like to think that if u draft someone
then u plan on playin them somewhere. granted both guys were late rounders, but i like gordon as our TE and ausberry will be that situational guy who’s a mistmatch nightmare
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
This
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
not saying it can't be done, but I still think Gordon was brought in as a specialty blocking TE, and Ausberry will create a mismatch lined up flank occasionally
sort of like an add’l TE lined up wide to create mismatches. Gordon is a big man, who will essentially give us almost another lineman on two TE sets, and blocking on run plays in short yardage and in the red zone. Nasty blocker.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I dont expect Aus or Gordon to play very good this season
I just hope they are ready.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
a big man that can run though
4.6 40. the bear has wheels
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
sweeeeeet.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Damn Namdi and Miller?? We are going to suck in Madden 12...
This is crazy. I am really wondering what Al is doing..
Players will have to step up.
that is all we can do.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
What FA whats to come to the Raiders??
I mean how can someone believe we are on the rise when all our studs are leaving..
lol. I wondered how playing without Nnamdi would feel. I never used Zach that much
Reece was my checkdown, and more than substituted in the red zone.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Zach was clutch..
I use Reese as the 2nd TE and bush as my FB… Our secondary will suck without namdi.. I wil move Huff to CB and use Branch and Mitchell as my safeties.. Johnson will be my 2nd DB
Yeah I used Zach a lot but also used Reece a lot at TE
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I threw to Myers all the time in two TE sets, and he always came through in the end zone
but, Zach was drawing attention on the other side, of course.
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""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Yeah I am more worried about our Madden 12 rating than I am in real life
Oh well like last year I am sure once they start playing and Hue’s O is clicking then they will have to bump us up in the updates
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more linemen
@RAIDERS
OAKLAND RAIDERS
The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent offensive linemen Justin Smiley, Stephon Heyer and Seth Wand.
nice.
at least we ARE bringing guys in…
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
i was gonna post
almost the exact same thing lol
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
Sorry beat ya to it….Smiley was a guard for JAX, Seth Wand a T from UFL
by Gregg Milhaupt on Aug 2, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank god!
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
Hue can see the problem
and hes trying to fix it
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
y does seth wand sound familiar??
justin smiley and heyer are both good pick ups though
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
he was on our team for a while
hes probably just a camp body, he was recently in the UFL.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
thats right... meh.
i like the smiley pick up though. starting LG?
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
If he is doing that
Go get Carlos Rogers beffore SF does, they are bringing him in. Or get Asante and sign a go to receiver/TE
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Asante won't help us.
I think yr just throwing “names” out there. He’s a zone corner who can’t cover a high school WR and doesn’t like to tackle.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Guys, relax.
We lost a cornerback and a tight end. A great CB and a very good TE, yes, but not the end of the world.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
+1
people are acting like its the end of the world
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Sup, Screw? that's how I feel. I think Hue has this team poised similarly to how Belichick runs the teams, where nobodies step up to the plate
when given the opportunity. I look forward to seeing it on the field.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
And our best lineman
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Marcel Reece=Pro Bowl TE
He learned how to block playing some fullback last year, and we already know he has better or just as good of receiving skills as Zach Miller. Plug Reece in at fullback on certain formations but get another big FB to carry most of the blocking load. Rock Cartwright played fullback in Washington so that might work. And as far as losing Nnamdi goes, I love the guy, but I don’t plan on wearing my #21 jersey too much any more. I guarantee our defense will force a lot more interceptions now that he is gone though.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til' I die.
by thepunisher00187 on Aug 2, 2011 4:22 PM PDT reply actions
Doubt it, but he can be a Pro Bowl FB; now he can be more involved as a weapon.
His stats will get him in if he works at it.
He doesn’t seem a natural for TE, I’ve seen him play like a Running Back.
The RaiderLaker
Reece played wide receiver in college
so if anything i’d say he’s more of a natural at catching the ball than blocking, and he’s got the speed Al Davis loves which makes him even more likely to be the starting tight end this year.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til' I die.
by thepunisher00187 on Aug 2, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
sadly
looks like i will pick KC 2 OAK 3 Den 4 week 1 will be a Huge game for Oak and Den
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
how do you guys feel about losing Harris? Bummer deal
to be honest I’m just glad he’s not in the division anymore… Maybe the rook looked promising in camp?
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he wanting a chance to win c’ant blame for that and Denver can try new guys in rebulling Mode way inj-prone anyway
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
this is true
but still, very glad he’s playing in the NFC. Dude can ball
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care to make a friendly wager, J? I'll post something totally humiliating on MHR if we lose
in fact, I’m almost prepared to make the same bet if we don’t win by the avg. margin last year.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
what was the ava margin
or victory was it 31 points
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
lol. Just wanted to hear that again! I'd go half that, even better, I'll spot 17 pts. Whaddya say, J?
no insulting here, just confidence in us, and the questions that come with all the work the new staff has to do. I love the acquisition of Fox, and look forward to the battles to come in our division. Didn’t we lose Zach early in the game in Oakland, also?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
u wouild spot me 17 points
ok what wouild i have to do put a raider logo on my facebook page
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
you are a man of your word, J, and whatever form of humiliation you deem fit, I will agree upon
if you wish for them to be the same for both of us, we can. I’ll still write a humiliating post saying that Denver is the best team in the west, and that I know nothing about football… wait… that’s redundant… lol. jk
Game two will be interesting; I’ll prob want to rebet then, but not sure I’ll be willing to spot points then, but I’m expecting a statement to be made in Oakland on Monday night, so, it’s on?
I also have to ask: do you think we’ll pursue, no.. get, another TE in free agency?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
on the bet
what the temes just the 1st game both games here i will do 2 thinks if u win i will try to put a raider logo as my facebook pic for a week and 2 u can pick the blog here KC or Den where i say the Raiders are the best for all time etc etc
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
we're on! Looking forward to the season, J. Also looking forward to our division earning the respect of the league again
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
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ok
me 2 can u send me a facebook message about out bet
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
J-man, post yr FB page here.
I’ll send you an add.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
ok screwfish
jeremy woodard jonesboro arkansas wearing a arkansas top i think
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Just speaking to some Giants fans and they are saying that Boss is
Well…….a Boss!
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
they think they'll keep him?
Any chance he’ll be a full fledged free agent?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Let's also get one thing right here.
Zach left because the Chickenhawks – massively – overpaid for him.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
by Screwfish on Aug 2, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
if we added boss we wouldnt get the 3rd for miller
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
there's only one 3rd round comp pick
we are definitely getting the 3.. But losing a TE generally doesn’t net you much in the comp draft.. Probably a 5th
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We won't have 2 extra 3rds.
Maybe a 3rd (possibly even a 2nd) for Nnamdi, a 4th for Zach and a 4th/5th for Gallery.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
“in addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as “compensatory picks,” are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player’s salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.
If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as “supplemental compensatory selections”).
Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft."
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So this means...
We now HAVE money to spend?
by TheDudeAbides138 on Aug 2, 2011 4:37 PM PDT reply actions
this is false. You will know the correct number on the 4th.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
it was 85.8 before free agent signings, draftee signings, UDFA signings, and the restructuring of contracts
do the math. You fancy yourself a pretty educated guy, I’ll have faith you can.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
^
haters gonna hate
non-constructive arguments = hater.. #hatersinspireme
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by R3ZZ on Aug 2, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You just named a non-constructive argument to counter what he said. :P
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
*said
not named. >.>
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Cap $$$$ On The Way Thursday!!!
Now this is my understanding of how/when this will take place: Someone have a better understanding please step up…
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Article 11 of the new CBA contains the rules that will allow the league to transition into the new league year, and buried among the many items within it is the following subsection:
Section 5. Salaries and Salary Cap Accounting:
….(b) Proration From Preexisting Contracts. ….(i) No signing bonus proration to the League Years of this Agreement shall apply for any Preexisting Contract that was terminated, traded or assigned via waivers prior to March 11, 2011….
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Nam’s contact was voided as of March 4th so will apply…Also any and all outstanding "Dead $$$$ Money" from previous player contacts who are no longer with the team should also now apply…
The new league year takes effect Thursday the 4th of August and the new CBA takes effect at that time also…Therefor at that same time the Raiders will be relieved of some huge $$$$ that was "Dead $$$$ Money" counting against the Cap…
The Raiders have been relatively quiet so far saying they are waiting to free up Cap space…The "Dead Money" was believed to be $17 Mil…Than we get to add in the $3.5 Mil incentive and additional $3 Mil that can be borrowed from future years…All of which should take effect on Thursday as well…
Now that could be as much as $23.5 Mil added to the Raiders Cap Fund…
Than significant Cap space was freed up when Wimbley signed his "New" contract…How much is yet unreported but believed to be as much as $10 Mil which could than bring that figure to a high point of some $33.5 Mil…. The question is at this very late point in "FA" who the hell can we spend all that $$$$ on…
Zack
Bush
_________-n- _______-n-______
This my best guess!!!
noice.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
thanks, man! you read my mind, apparently!
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
not saying you will
just manning up, something these haters are incapable of doing
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hey i man up!!
o.o
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
by saying I shouldn't say I was right and you were wrong
#please
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I admitted I was wrong about Nnamdi somewhere...
And I basically did say you were right and I was wrong somewhere here as well on Miller….
But as a consolation thing, you were right on miller leaving. I was hoping He would stay but that was not the case.
:)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
We just wish you were capable of making an actual football x's and o's related comment
Explaining the basis of you doom and gloom
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
I do
then I get blasted for it.. It’s like if I don’t get all over Al and Hue’s dick I’m some sort of troll, just stating my opinion. Then people come to me tryna bitch about how fucking stupid I am. WTF you expect me to do remain fucking calm?
#hatersgonnahate
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dude, I was TOTALLY wrong about Nnamdi and Zach.
I was seriously jocking both of them. Apparently, I was even more wrong about their desires to stay Raiders, which has me not as upset they’re gone now.
I’ll admit I’m a bit of a homer as well, but I don’t know what it is about Hue that inspires in me this confidence. I can go back a year ago, and not a single positive wasn’t tempered with a great deal of trepidation for Al shooting us in the foot.
It’s just in a huge way, now that both Nnamdi and Zach are gone, I can see that their losses won’t be the detriment of the entire club, and in fact, might afford a young stud or two the opportunity to start a new era of Raider football, wherein we don’t celebrate performance of players in losing efforts. I was guilty of that, too.
Call it a gut feeling, but I feel there’s a silver lining to everything that has happened so far, and it will become more evident as the season progresses. If I’m wrong about that, too, I’ll eat my words then, as well.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
mutual
and, for the record, I don’t blame you for being negative. Definitely got reason to be. Probably more sensibly than some of us do about being confident, but I’m sticking to my guns too.
Hue is the right man for the job, and I think we’ll know it by the time the Jets come to town.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
No one is hater, realists are not haters
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
here's one link
http://nflfootballnow.com/2011/07/21/2011-nfl-salary-cap-and-floor-where-32-teams-stand/
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
you're right. I'm done responding
the dead money question was put to rest a long time ago. PantyRaider? care to enlighten us?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Nope still broke
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Someone will step in for sure.
I can see Reece becoming a FB/TE hybrid quite easily considering he’s already been a WR. Ausberry and Myers are gonna have to step up for certain.
Zach Miller is a great player without a doubt, but he went the same route as the other one. Fuck ’em.
by TheDudeAbides138 on Aug 2, 2011 4:41 PM PDT reply actions
If the Raiders want to build on last season they need to sign Kevin Boss, Bush, Carlos Rogers, Kirk Morrison and Malcom Floyd or Braylon
BEING 8-8 IS OK "IF THAT'S THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN" - COACH AL DAVIS
i would like Floyd
and he should be less then 7 mil a year lol
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like a plan.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
WE NEED A (PLAN)
because right now it seems like the raiders are just wingin it
BEING 8-8 IS OK "IF THAT'S THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN" - COACH AL DAVIS
by The MoonMan 804 on Aug 2, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
really don't need to panic
As awesome as Z Mills was for us, there are not only adequate replacements, but bigger positional needs. Kevin Boss and Bo Scaife are still free agents, don’t cost Miller money, and could help groom our young TE’s. OLB is still a huge question mark, and should be where we decide to use what little cap room we have. Banta-Cain and Brady Poppinga would be more than enough, while Tatupu would be a wet dream should he get moved to OLB (though i doubt we can afford him). We still could use a replacement for Chris Johnson, but the FA CB market is pretty thin at this point, although I wouldn’t be upset if we picked up William Gay or Brent Grimes. Losing Zach Miller or Nnamdi will not send us back to the “5 win season” era, as much as it may feel like it. We have an incredible depth of young talent that will take time to develop, so as much as we all would like to see the Silver and Black in the postseason, it may be a little unrealistic for this season.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
I actually still see us as contenders
We lost a DB and a TE, both replaceable. In fact, not having Nam will allow teams to pass against us more. Teams abandoned the pass and just ran it on us over and over agian until they finally broke off big plays.
The Donks are a joke, the Dolts are losing players and getting older (no rivera either), and the Queefs have lost key players and their offensive coordinator. This division is wide open, and I think Hue is going to surprise a lot of people this year.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
the AFC west is pretty soft
and i wouldn’t be amazed if we made the playoffs, but i would be (pleasantly) surprised if we made a deep run. We all saw how last years’ AFC West champion did in the postseason against a legitimate team…
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Aug 2, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
im off the rogers bus
i think our corners are fine. we need the younger guys to get reps in. plus bringing in anyone now might make the nnamdi loss a 4 rd comp pick instead of a 3rd. kirk or lofu would be good and we still need to bring walker/bush back in
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
asking chris johnson or a rookie to step in to the starting spoting is to much of a risk
SO FAR THIS OFF SEASON WE HAVE DONE A POOR JOB IMPROVING THE TEAM..
BEING 8-8 IS OK "IF THAT'S THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN" - COACH AL DAVIS
by The MoonMan 804 on Aug 2, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
i think CJ can handle it
not so many targets comin his way and our dline is set to be brutal this season. plus we have mcfadden and ware. im not a big believer in DVD or chekwa. but we gotta see if they can contribute. now is that time
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
CJ has started in our system before
and he did well, even though he was opposite of nnam.He was injured last year too, so with the time for him to heal and less pressure opposite of Routt, i think he will be fine.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 2, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
The NFL is arguabley the most competative of pro-sports leauges in the the USA. Our corners only need to get burned a few times a game and our TE not open or dropping a couple to brings us below .500.
theres teams in this league
that are waaaayyy worse at corner then we are and they have great seasons all the time. baltimore being the first to come to mind
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Baltimore has a bunch of guys that are "good"
but nobody that stands out at “great” plus their secondary (as of last year) had two premier safeties and a solid corner.. What more do you want from them?
Mountain Dew
Mountain Dew
Mountain Dew
and there's that dude named Ed Reed back there...
making plays all over the secondary and even outside of it sometimes.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Too Bad
Too bad Ed Reed doesn’t play for us. My point is that in a lot of games the difference between winning or losing in the NFL is only a few plays. Over simplified for sure but we lost two guys who where able/available to make good plays on a consistant basis. Feeling sorry for coach Hue. He was handed the keys to a decent car that needed a few repairs, turns parts got ripped on the street before he could even turn the ignition.
Glad Hue doesn't give a shit about the obstacles laid before him
you make a solid point, but Hue isn’t feeling sorry for himself, nor will he allow this team to believe for a second we can’t overcome anything or anyone we lose.
I believe this 100% when he says it:
"I share my vision with everyone in the organization," Jackson says. "We have an expectation of greatness, and we’re not gonna back down from that. We can’t hide behind excuses – the lockout, losing a player, whatever. My expectation is to win every game I coach.
"There are head coaches in this league, they don’t want that challenge. I’m not afraid of that. I’ve seen this business turn people upside down, sunny-side up and bring them to their knees. I’m gonna attack this thing."
and like that he will say he’s going to do it with whomever we field on opening day, and will instill the same belief in said personnel.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
id say our corners are better then thiers
true they have ed reed though, but last few seasons he’s only been play half or 3/4 of the season. the trick is if we can produce more consistent pressure from our front four, if we can, then that with the added factor that both corners will be targeted evenly now may produce more turnovers then when nnam was here. except for 2006 when he broke out
by frank7da2tank on Aug 2, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We are not hurting at CB
We don’t need a corner. When Nnamdi was hurt for 3 games we were 2-1. I’m not worried about his loss because my belief says that now these guys have a whole lot of pressure off of their heads. When you start across from Nnamdi you do all the work.
We need to stay the course and be looking for a coverage LB (Kirk I’m looking at you buddy) and o-line. Maybe we get creative if someone is out there AFTER we get what we need
Our front 4 is gonna be the deciding factor as far as our secondary goes. And our front 4 is pretty damn good. Pass rush is going to be everything this year.
by TheDudeAbides138 on Aug 2, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
Kirk Morrison would be awesome. Think it's possible?
and the move to OLB feasible for him as it is for us?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
He's a hometown guy
I think he’d do that.
He’s always seemed to be a team first kinda guy, so I don’t think it would be a far reach.
I’ve seen the other thread about Tatupu possibly coming aboard and I think either one of those guys would be exactly what we need right now. I’m partial to Morrison but that’s a bit byast
by TheDudeAbides138 on Aug 2, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
at this point I'd be pretty ecstatic with either/or
but Morrison might prompt me to get another Morrison jersey!
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Kirk is not a bully. He hugs opponents and would have players walking to the coin-flip holding hands.
He makes tackles but late and without punishment. Let’s get a punishing brute, an animal in human form, who will deliver on Hue’s mantra.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
morrison
loves the media too much for me
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
lol. insightful, once again, I think J. he is a media darling, is he not?
His profile pic on his twitter account is like an actor’s headshot. You just made me not really want him.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
i was turn off by his Jim rome
inview kissing up to mr Rome made me skin if u want be a actor be a actor
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I hear you, j-man, he had that effect on me too
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 3, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
if i was on that show
i wouild say mr rome who are u let me tell u who u are u are a shock jock 90’s has/been who think u are GQ and u think u are right on everything seif-centing jerk who acts like judge judy and U cut off u sports media guests when they say something u do not agree with u are egotistic seif-centaed all me me me u new name is Bitch as in my Bitch and who died and made u GOD i am OUT u SOB
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Well, that's a fair characterization. But, not all SOB's are like that
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 3, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
no
but he works my nerves up
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
and you've been preaching this for awhile. I hope you're right
I also think it’s possible we go with the corners we have, but my prediction was that we’d struggle before we get our legs beneath us, and it will be ugly. But the pass rush being awesome and coming even more into it’s own is a nice consolation, and could be the deciding factor after all.
Getting a cover lb like Morrison would have me feeling soooo much more confident.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
This Was Reported Earlier On This Thread....I Added To It...
@RAIDERS
OAKLAND RAIDERS
The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent offensive linemen Justin Smiley, Stephon Heyer and Seth Wand.
Justin Smiley “G”
Height: 6-3 Weight: 310 Age: 29
Experience: 8th season
2010 Jacksonville Jaguars 5 Gms 5 Starts
2009 Miami Dolphins 15 Gams 12 Starts
2008 Miami Dolphins 12 Gms 12 Starts
2007 San Francisco 49ers 8 Gms 8 Starts
2006 San Francisco 49ers 16 Gms 16 Starts
2005 San Francisco 49ers 16 Gms 16 Starts
2004 San Francisco 49ers 16 Gms 9 Starts
TOTAL 88 Gms 78 Starts
Started 88.6% of the games played…
Stephon Heyer OT
Height: 6-6 Weight: 332 Age: 27
Experience: 5th season
2010 Washington Redskins 12 gms 5 Starts
2009 Washington Redskins 16 Gms 16 Starts
2008 Washington Redskins 9 Gms 7 Starts
2007 Washington Redskins 12 Gms 5 Starts
TOTAL 49 Gms 33 Starts
In 4 NFL seasons he started 67% of the games played…
can't hurt at all!
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Let's see Marcel Reece at TE
With DMC and Taiwan Jones split backfield for throwing downs. Bring in Bruce Campbell at TE for run blocking. Fuck Zach Miller. He’s have never made it out of shadow of Dave Casper.
"I'm surrounded by assholes. Keep firing, assholes!"
Just bought me a Glock 17
Discovered shooting recently – love it and am a pretty decent shooter. My favorite though was the Kassul.454 that I shot last weekend.
by Spirals galore on Aug 2, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I am, and have always been, a shooting enthusiast. Don't own anything but a .22 rifle, but my friends all have arsenals.
and they call me “Tex”, on account of I always outshoot them with their own pieces. My two friends just each bought two and a half acre plots up by Lake Isabella (down for y’all), and we can shoot to our heart’s content up there. I prefer rifles, but like to shoot high caliber handguns as well. I prefer revolvers to cartridge loaders, and the Colt .45 to most, but my friends have some nice Rugers too. Love the .44Mag too, and my friend’s brother has a couple Desert Eagles that are just fun as hell to shoot. Not the Cali ones, either, the real .50s. fun stuff. Jaimi’s not too keen on them, but she tolerates my eccentricities.
Never shot a Kassul. Was it a gassy .454?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I've never fired a gun in my life.
When I was in Texas I walked into a pawn shop and just spent time admiring the number of guns that were for sale, just sitting there. I’d never seen anything like it.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
you would have a blast on my friend's land, Screw! We spent the first couple trips just clearing trash
and demo’d the building on it down to stud, and cleared out mountains of rat shit, but not before we used it for an indoor shooting range! it was awesome! It’s like in a giant saucer shaped piece of land, so safe to fire in almost 360 degrees around so long as we’re all inside. We set up targets in the hills outside. Mostly waterjugs we fill in the creek running through the land. There’s quail all over the trails coming in and out, but wrong season. It’s almost too easy tho.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I shot at creek-filled water bottles too! We were outside.
I tried trap shooting too but suck at it yet – 1 out of four.
by Spirals galore on Aug 2, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
those metal targets are fun too. less resetting necessary.
we also had some nice junk from his junkpile that provided nice targeting. an old tv, that got stuck in the stump, and kept providing increasingly tougher shards of glass and innards to hit, until it was riddled beyond recognition. Great fun, and excellent way to vent off steam.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Oh, that's awesome!
I’d love to shoot at TV’s! Maybe on our next trip to Oregon I could take my super old laptop and shoot the crap out of it!
by Spirals galore on Aug 2, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
some great dramatic detonations, no doubt.
the old laptop would be kinda like that office space scene, where they take their frustrations out on the fax machine too, only better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0_S_EdZ_I8
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Stupid gun control laws.
I did two months in juvie when I was 15. Got caught with sparkler bombs. We were letting one off in a garbage bin near the beach.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
I don't know what a gassy .454 is, but the one I shot was a sheer pleasure
last but not least because the guy who owned it thought i’d wimp out. I love the kick! The gun I didn’t care much about was the Alaskan Ruger, because it has a short barrel and for some reason my palms got really red. But it could have been inexperience… Imagine – Sons presents me with a bb-gun for my b-day – I almost rolled my eyes then (I did, but furtively). Little did I know this was going to be my new hobby! Not ready form them bears yet though…
by Spirals galore on Aug 2, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
gassy not necessarily good. High caliber handguns should kick, but the Rugers just feel solid and make less noise
where a gassy one (refers to how much gets dispelled from the discharge, but specifically is it towards the target, or everywhere). Some of my buddies more obscure older ones, smaller caliber than a .44 I was shooting, was louder and generally discharged energy everywhere feeling like it was going to come apart. They weren’t, but I preferred the solid feel of the Rugers, and even the Desert Eagle, the highest caliber we shot, kicked, but just felt great. So long as you’re prepared for it, it should.
Maybe we’ll take in a trip to the range one time when I’m up. Still take trips to Arizona with the guy who was supposed to come to the game with me, and you can still walk in and purchase a gun there (well, he can, because he still has his AZ id.) I think they might’ve made laws even tighter since last we went, when he purchased a nice side by side double barrel shotgun.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Yes, this is what we were thinking of doing when you guys come up.
Shooting at the range in the morning, then going to the game.
by Spirals galore on Aug 2, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like a blast. You remember Sean, who partnered with me on the tix. He owns the arsenal
and bought the land. He’ll probably come to at least a few games with me again too. Jaimi’s coming to NE for sure, and probably another, but she’s not going to brave the Black Hole when she comes for her game! She’s gonna try to sit with a group of Pats that day (perhaps wisely!). Getting her to come with us would be awesome! Not sure we could make that happen, tho! Won’t stop us from trying!
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
We'll break Jaimi in on the Walther PPK replica gas actuated BB gun (that's how Spirals got her feet wet)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that could work!
we’ll surprise her. lol. Looking forward to next week.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Brandon Myers and David Ausberry
will do the same that Zach Miller could do for the Raiders
by Hundredthousanddollarpluswhipmaster on Aug 2, 2011 7:28 PM PDT reply actions
you are right, but Hue has me believing more than any coach since Gruden, that the "next man up" will know it deep down
or he won’t get the chance to be on this team.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Satele inked. Nice
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
For certain?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
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