Oakland Raiders: Grim Injury News
The young linebacker that almost all of us had hoped would take over the weakside starting duties for Quentin Groves is likely done for the season. Travis Goethel has a tear in his knee. Levi Damien of Thoughts from the Darkside tweeted the dark news.
This is a huge blow to a frighteningly thin linebacker corps. Goethel was not just the man pegged to start at weakside, but he was also the backup middle linebacker. The Raiders will undoubtedly have to hit the waiver wire and readdress Lofa Tatupu. This also may open the door for the return of Kirk Morrison.
Out of these options my preference is with Morrison. Lofa has serious injury concerns of his own, and the prospects of him being able to make a full 16 game season are slim. A lot slimmer than Lofa. My Seahawk following friends were shocked at how big Lofa looked when he showed up to Hawk camp.
There is a good chance that this is why he is still yet to find a home. Come back, Captain Kirk! We need you.
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what happens when
they dont play OLB and Grooves still starts…? Everyone going to be pissed still? Or happy their on the team?
Pissed they aren't starting
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
by dubzfan on Aug 23, 2011 6:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
happy there on the team
and pissed they arent starting
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 23, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
yep
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Aug 23, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
sad. atleast it should force the front office to make a move.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 23, 2011 6:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
We HAVE to sign a OLB and a MLB now
I think we should sign Tatupu and Morrison and have them battle it out for groves spot, loser backs up McClain.Also sign Darren Sharper, with Brown and Boyd playing bad and Mitchell injured, we need a solid backup.
Would you like fries with that
by angelraiders on Aug 23, 2011 6:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Now that's appreciation! Nice!!!!!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No Rusty, twas sarcasm. But, I forgive you for scandalizing me and making me have to be an asshole
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Now that's forgiveness!!! Nice!!!!!!!!!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
by Rusty23 on Aug 23, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I must take up meditation one day
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing a few good belts (jiggers) couldn't take care of.
By the way, might be taking a job that would send me west once in a while. Will keep you posted as we need to get to a game!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
It would be good to meet you and attend a game together
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Face it Rusty, you have a funny streak.
by RaiderPsycho on Aug 23, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Bret Armstrong's article
http://tfdssports.com/2011-articles/august/goethel-done-for-the-year.html
Oakland Raiders inside linebacker, Travis Goethel, left at the beginning of practice today with trainers by his side. Head Coach Hue Jackson told Bay are media at his post practice press conference that Goethel tore a ligament in his knee and will need surgery. His sophomore season is officially over. This news was reported by our own Levi Damien, who is currently in Napa, California at the Raiders training camp facilities.
Raiders starting inside linebacker, Rolando McClain, did not practice today and according to Coach Jackson he was just taking the day off to rest. Understandable being that he is one of the hardest working guys on the team, not only on the field but in the film room as well. In his absence, Sam Williams was running the first team defense at middle linebacker when Goethel left the field. Free agent acquisition Daryl Blackstock was running the Mike for the second team.
Sam Williams was running the first team defense at middle linebacker!
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Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Aug 23, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey who snapped a picture of my "O" face when I wasn't looking
Shame on You Rich for taking advantage of Me right in the middle of getting some POON-TANG.
Good one noon!
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
LmaoRofl!!!!!
Clippers own staples center!!!
by ClipperBEAST on Aug 23, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
lmao some how even though ive been in these comments a bunch...
I hadn’t noticed this til now lol that’s the best picture of Al Davis I have seen in years!
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 24, 2011 12:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just when run defense couldn't get worse ....
Well, the organization ignored a clear and present problem that is now a full-blown disaster.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
It's not Hue's fault that Goethel is gone. But, we did not bring in any LBs during FA or the Draft and all the while Hue's been
talking about building a bully knowing (or being ignorant?) that our 2nd Row is dreadful. In all likelihood we will stay right where we are – the 29th rush defense in the league … the preseason games and failure to acquire decent linebackers confirms this grim conclusion …. despite Hue Jackson’s rhetoric to contrary.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Bully...
I don’t see it,keep in mind that Hue is an offensive minded coach if we all are to take a look at what some of us might called “bully” teams the likes of THE STEELERS and THE RAVENS the “bully” resides on their defense not their offense, I mean they bully you with their defense and they play solid on the offensive side of the ball, I understant we all want to see progress and we all should realize that going into our last draft we knew what we needed most was LB help and in my opinion safety by now this is water under the bridge and two questions need to be answer, who do we pick up once roster cuts are made? and is Hue the right man for the job? GO RAIDERS!!!
It's becoming apparent that Hue is not a well rounded HC yet. His background is entirely on the offensive side of the ball
The neglect of our rush defense this preseason is inexcusable. It was the most obvious weakness on our team – including the OL – and I see little to be optimistic about our rush defense after watching our LBs perform in the first two preseason games … especially with our Safeties Mittchell and Eugene out with injuries. The Bully concept seems hollow and rather ridiculous right now.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it always seemed that way
but isn’t this on Al more than Hue?
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
I Agree
We don’t know if Hue is suggesting we get Kirk or Lofa or anyone for that matter. He could be asking Al to get them, but we don’t know that. I believe this is a deal that management has to take care of. Hue trains whoever is on the field, Al gets them to the field.
"Eating everybody in the game, pac-man"
agree
To me it starts with an azz kickin D
by Canadian Raider on Aug 24, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
And this is how the cookie crumbles
I can only imagine how the lockout is going to effect the NFL season. This hurts but this nothing compared to NY giants. Both starting DBs are out for the year!
I just hope Hue Jackson’s Bullying Progam isn’t back firing. Cause it’s a long long season. I’d hate to lose it because of injuries.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
by gogomaplata on Aug 23, 2011 7:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
How can a HC build a bully without strong Linebackers?! It's absurd to even suggest. I am embarrassed and shaken.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just considering all the injuries we've had lately
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
by gogomaplata on Aug 23, 2011 7:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I watched the 2nd Half of the SF game again today and I'll tell you what - our 2nd Row is bad and now is worse
Chirs Francis and Bruce Davis are fodder, Bani Gbadyu is only slightly better, Quentin Groves, Darryl Blackstock and Sam Williams are sub mediocre and Wimbley is just okay. I’d trade the lot of them (except Wimbley) for Mason Foster
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
TB would never make that trade.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
we didnt draft him when we had the chance lol and we have no picks left to trade , start signing free agents , or waste a year , our schedule could leave us 6-10 unless we sign a tackle, a cb , and 2 lbs
Barksdale has got to improve. He'll be okay going forward but is slow footed in pass protection and will be eaten alive
or, more precisely, whichever QB is in the game. Linebackers are the teams biggest weakness and we will be gouged as we’ve been gouged for the past few years unless something dramatic happens very soon.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Cant disagree with this
Although I think Wimbley is a little better than ok but he is certainly not showing it right now
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
Listening to Hue's press conference
The news about Goethel comes only after 9 minutes of rah-rah talk.
Because no one asked him. Hue never volunteers bad news. These reporters rarely ask tough questions (Jerry McDonald sometimes does)
If I were there, I’d ask Hue about the LB situation and how he expected to play the same players and achieve different results when the preseason indicates there’s been no improvement there.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
that's how it is out west.
come over here, around NYC and every little thing is scrutinized. It can get annoying, but at the same time it makes the coaches/players own up to bad situations.
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Aug 23, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
losing goethel sucks but
gaining a guy like lofa tatupu or Kirk Morrison would be even better. If only we could sign both and drop Quentin Groves….
Clippers own staples center!!!
/\ THIS!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 23, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a thought but maybe Mitch could be moved to full time LB
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
That would be pretty cool IMO
He can tackle just as good as a linebacker, can cover better than most linebackers, and would be in the top 5 fastest linebackers in the league. If I was Hue Jackson I would definitely consider this.
Clippers own staples center!!!
by ClipperBEAST on Aug 23, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i was thinking about that
we would still have to get another safety and a backup MLB, but i would like to see them try it atleast, it could pay off big.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 23, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
they picked up
josh bullocks on aug15th… he’s a solid backup safety… was a beast at nebraska
Bo knows the Chiefs can suck it...
Bullock
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 24, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
... is horrid
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 24, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
eh whatever...
just cause his madden rating sucks doesn’t mean he wasn’t in every frame of a tackle being made vs the 49ers…
besides… he’s from my alma mater high school :D
Bo knows the Chiefs can suck it...
His Madden rating has dick to do with it
His “getting burned constantly for the duration of his NFL career” is the issue.
MexicAN AmericAN VegAN
Who said anything about Madden?
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
must have used a wide angle lens, pimp.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 24, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
too bad they took his “highlight” video down lol
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 24, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
and i like this
“Oakland quarterback Jason Campbell said he will support new Oakland quarterback Terrelle Pryor because he enjoyed the guidance of a veteran as a young player.”
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 23, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Im telling u bro
TP = QB of the Future
Clippers own staples center!!!
by ClipperBEAST on Aug 23, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
u dont agree?
Clippers own staples center!!!
by ClipperBEAST on Aug 23, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It almost seems like Kirk has been holding out and waiting for the Raiders to come calling
A player of his caliber (5 straight 100+ tackle seasons before last year) usually would have been signed a long time ago, and it’s not like he’s coming off an injury like Tatupu.
tackles are misleading.
there is a difference between making a tackle at the point of attack and a tackle 4-5 yards or more away from the line of scrimmage. Morrison was no master of doing the latter.
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Aug 23, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really likes these quotes from TP in Corks article today.
"If I’m asked by the organization, if they want me to do it, I’ll do it," Pryor said. "But the only reason I’m not doing it is there’s other great players on the field, and I don’t want to be selfish and have attention on me when it doesn’t need to be."
Pryor said he is eager to join his new teammates.
"As soon as my agent, Drew Rosenhaus, him and the Oakland Raiders organization get that contract done, then they want to fly me out," Pryor said. "I don’t know why we’re waiting, but that’s what was said yesterday. I’m just waiting to hear the news and as soon as I hear it, I’m going out."
I think that maybe they are not rushing because they dont want to disrupt the team in the middle of the week of practice leading in to the most important preseason game. The other thing we have to remember is that we didn’t even know we were getting him until yesterday the coaches probably havent really even had a chance to work out properly how they are going to handle him.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
Also
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Agent Drew Rosenhaus tells ESPN that Terrelle Pryor will not appeal 5-game suspension. Pryor had said he would leave it up to #Raiders
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
That is good for the Raiders. They have until Week 6 to decide whose roster spot Pryor takes.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
Jerry McDonald
“BLTN Raiders practice notes: Overheard from assistant coach: ``Put a helmet in his nuts and push him back!’’”
I Don't Knoe If This Was Before Or After This Potsed Thread...But It Confirms It Either Wa
Raiders | Kirk Morrison, Lofa Tatupu on radar?
Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:35:54 -0700
Oakland Raiders head coach Hue Jackson said Tuesday, Aug. 23, that it is conceivable that the team will check into signing either free-agent LB Kirk Morrison (Jaguars) or Lofa Tatupu (Seahawks).
he was specifically asked about these two players and he responded that they would loom at every available player that could help the team
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
he didn't say they weren't but he didn't exactly single them out as targets as the wording or this report suggests
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
No More "Battle-o-da-Bay"...Punks Thatks That One Away!!
Raiders | Will end yearly preseason game against SF
Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:48:56 -0700
The Oakland Raiders will stop their annual preseason game against the San Francisco 49ers after a shooting incident following their preseason game Saturday, Aug. 20, which left two people in critical condition. The NFL and local police are said to be in favor to stopping to yearly game.
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl/oakland-raiders#ixzz1VwSdfI00
yeah
Talk about not having the proper tools to solve the question. To cancel the game and punish the fans is the wrong way to go. I really hope both Raider and Niner fans will protest against this load of utter bullshit
THIS might be good news.
The Raiders received great value by selecting Pryor, and I’ll throw out a guarantee that Pryor has a more successful NFL career for around $60 million less than JaMarcus Russell ever had.
Bleacher report , really going out on a limb again. Hope they are right.
Not sure if Goethel's injury is bad news?
This forces the Raiders to go out and do what they already should have done, upgrade the LB core. We just hear about Goethel’s potential, come game time I’ve never seen it regardless of injury or whatever. If the Raiders take the next man up approach then were screwed. I don’t think they will, they should bring in 2 more LB’s.

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