Oakland Raiders: What New York Giants Fans are Saying About Losing Kevin Boss
by Rich Langford on Aug 5, 2011 12:13 PM PDT
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PrintWell, it has been a long and winding free agent road for the Oakland Raiders, and for the first time the Raiders have signed a player from a team (New York Giants) whose departure draws a passionate reaction from their fan base. So I figured I'd venture over to Big Blue View and see what their fans were saying.
Much like we have done here, many of the fans instantly point out why they are not at all bothered by him leaving. Jump over for thoughts straight from the minds and fingers of Giants fans....
That guy
won’t last 4 years, if he makes it past two years, I’d be surprised.
ugh shame to see him go,
I do have faith in our current guys (including Beckum who has been having an awesome camp so far) and Pascoe to TE could work out just as well.
But sad to see him actually go. Guy was a Giant to the T and always gave it his all. He is one tough mudda, and I wish him the best in Oakland.
Yesss
Gotta say I was hoping this would happen…lets go Beckum!
I'm gonna move my Kevin Boss argument over here
Kevin Boss leaving is a blessing in disguise if you ask me… The guy was slow and a below average receiving option. Sure he was a great blocker but honestly, so are a lot of guys. ben Patrick is also a great blocker.
I look for Travis Beckum to turn a lot of heads this season by having an exceptional year catching the ball
I remember when Shockey got hurt and we had this big tall gangly TE who couldn't block for his life
he steps in and while he’s no where near Jeremy Shockey, he still is pretty good. The next offseason while people are intrigued on Boss, still many wanted a TE cuz its not like Boss aside from one catch in the SB was all that great overall.
Boss is a solid player. I don’t think it’ll be completely seamless but I don’t think he’s worth tying up $4mil in cap room for the next 4 years.
Whipped...
My guess is this:
Boss’s wife drove this decision. I’ll bet when the dust settles, we find out that he wanted to move west from the beginning. I’ve seen his photo on Twitter and methinks the "BossMan" is a bit whipped.
And some fans just choose to vent, or say what the team is going to miss about Boss:
Terrible offseason so far
Bad for us, but glad for Kevin
Good player enjoyed him while he was here, we could have kept him. How much are the raiders over the cap now, they have got to have a fire sale sooner or later right?
aren't the raiders like 14+ mill over the cap?
wtf is this……how……i don’t understand.
ARGGHHHHHHHHHHThis one stings a little bit
He was good,
But not great, i think the reason people are so upset is because he really excelled at blocking. Which is what we use the TE position for mostly, and since we were talking about running the ball more. He was a key part to our run game. Thats the real blow to this team.
-1. The man already has a ring.
And im sure going home had a lot to do with his decision. That and the raiders throw to the TE a lot more than the Giants do.
What the hell is with all the hate because a guy went home and got a raise?
Yesterday everybody on here couldnt wait to get Boss back and now that he is going to another team, we are better off without him? we are better off with a guy that couldnt beat out boss on the Depth chart?
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lol even their fans sound like us. the similarities between the raiders and giants never seem to cease!
They will miss him and we will utilize him we lost one young probowl te but replaced him with another young probowl te. I gotta admit though Travis beckum is a beast. He is fast and can catch so if they get him on the field watch out. He is a jermichael Finley/Vernon Davis type te that I really wanted the raiders to draft. He was better than lance kendricks who is crazy good too and went in the 2nd round
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 12:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
would you be surprised...
Most true New Yorkers, as myself, are Giants fans in the NFC and Raiders fans in the AFC.
The Jets fans are mostly egoistic and daydreamers. Thus when the Giants lost Boss, many shared the same sentiment the Raider fans felt when they lost Miller.
I believe the acquisition of Boss is extremely comparable to Miller. Realize this, Giants do not throw often to their TEs as the Raiders do. I foresee Boss having a great season this year. The best in his career barring no set back from the off season hip surgery.
Long live the Raiders.
by HandzUp on Aug 5, 2011 2:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I am starting to think G-men fans are alright.
Thanks!
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
RAW IS PUNK!
I guess we kind of assume everybody hates us.
lol
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
RAW IS PUNK!
Old school coach and owner, old school programs built around getting guys to kick the guys ass across from them
and physicality. I’ve always loved to watch the Giants kick the Cowboy’s ass in the Monday night nailbiters. The similarities are endless. You guys are welcome here always… Jets fans? not so much!
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Giants fans are OK.
My cousin and one of my best mates are among you. I’ve been to a Giants-Cowgirls game at the old Meadowlands and had plenty of fun abusing Tony Homo until they threw me out.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
GREAT NEWS!!!!....but does he have a concussion history?
I’m Super Excited! I think he will do great and I think he will be able to put up Miller numbers as I think it is more a product of our offense than a difference in skill between the two.
Question thou: I was curious how the NY Giants fans were gonna react so I took a look at their sites and many kept mentioning a history of concussions and dropped passes with a few comments of "one concussion away from retirement"…. bitterness OR is there some truth to this?
by Ventura.Raider.Nation on Aug 5, 2011 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
bitterness. he has had atleast 1 but he has played 15 out of 16 games the last 3 years
You can’t do that if you have a serious concussion problem
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 12:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
*each of the last 3 years
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 12:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Boss
Boss is a magnet for helmet to helmet shots. I’m a Giants fan, and I saw that guy take probably four or five heinous helmet to helmet shots (none of them ever get called of course), and he keeps getting up. Tough guy, but you do have to wonder what that means for his long term health.
Its a hard thing to swallow when you lose a player than contributes..
So i completely understand how they, as i felt the same way when Zach left. Im happy about the signing, and though i havent posted much these last few days, i was never worried about getting FA’s, not with our coaching staff. But what concerns me is the injuries that are happening to key players.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 5, 2011 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
gotta agree there. dmac and jacoby alone are scarys
the most important two weapons we have out for the preseason when we didnt even have minicamps suck
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 12:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
seems like every year this happens..
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 5, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
i agree, but both were broken bones and not muscle related so theres not much to be done about it
Fickle fate has a beef with the raiders apparently lol
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 12:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd be much more concerned if the injuries were hamstring-related again
Brad Roll must have gone to school – his conditioning was a joke last year.
by Spirals galore on Aug 5, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
it seemed like every one of our players had a hamstring injury last year, pissed me off.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 5, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
McFadden was out 2weeks with a hamstring injury in last years camp.
Bush had a broken hand and the list go’s on. This happens every year in camp. poor Schilens never make it through camp. Just be glad these injuries are in camp will miss preseason games. D-mac has no facial damage not even a bump and he siad he is not in any pain. In other words he would be suiting up if he had this injury in the season.
by Captain Chaos on Aug 5, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Floyd staying with the chargers
guess he doesnt care about championships lol
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 5, 2011 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
damn. i wanted to steal him from them
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 12:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
lol i didnt have the stomach to go look
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 12:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It puzzles me honestly.
The Giants are my fav. Team in the NFC. It is a loss for them, being that not only did he block VERY well, but Eli hit him so much in the end zone. He is slow, but he is reliable. And as far as the drops go, ALL the Giants receivers either had drops or were injured.
What REALLY gets me is that The Giants owner is being too cheap. Kevin Boss is Worth 5 Mil per year in my opinion. He also doesn’t want to pay one of his best DEs, when Osi Umenyiora actually Delivered – Leader in FFs and Double Digit Sacks. They won’t get anybody back if he continues to be cheap.
I am glad Al signed him. We needed a fill-in, and he is MORE than that. Now, more FAs are needed.
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Aug 5, 2011 1:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I've favored them since they beat NE in the SB and like their smash-mouth style. We're lucky to have a generous owner who
puts winning ahead of business and profit.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 5, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't get that either.
Giants fans – is this a common thing? Cause between us getting Boss, the Osi issue and Prince being the last rookie to sign a deal I gotta wonder what y’all are thinking. My read on Mara and Tisch is that while they don’t spend that much in FA, they’re not cheap and they’ll pay to keep their guys.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Lots of them seem to be pretty enamored of Beckum
who looks to me like a glorified slot receiver who can’t block – I think this is a big loss for the Big Blue
no doubt, but it seems a lot of them look at our losses like I do--not always rationally--but I always fool myself for that moment...
that something good can come of them. Just like some of us were saying, “next man up,” while in all honesty, praying Myers can look like he did in that one preseason game years ago consistently, oh, and score.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Im a big badgers fan here in wisconsin and i think a lot of people forget that beckum was a linebacker until his junior year
The Guy hits and is physical. He just needs to learn how to read the blocks but if he gets his lid on you then your going to feel it. He focused more on routes and catching the ball but I’ve seen monster blocks out of him too. He is good, they should be enamored.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 4:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
could say the same about us and Ausberry
"Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think. Those are easy. The ones that would be tough is where you didn’t have any good players and you had an owner or an organization that didn’t want to spend any money to get good players." - John Madden, 2008
RAW IS PUNK! WWE THURSDAY NIGHT ZACKDOWN!!!
the jags
Just gave Mercedes Lewis 5 yrs 35 mil. What’s the deal with over paying TE’s?
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
by Kwester421 on Aug 5, 2011 4:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I can understand why.
He’s their best receiver and it’s not close. If they plan to start Blaine Gabbert some time this year or next, I’d guess they want to give him at least one guy to throw to.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
the whole idea of overpaying becomes questionable when a team is willing to pay said price
it no doubt means there were others in the wings, waiting to pay a simliar price. Marcedes is a special tweener type player, who as was pointed out, is their best threat catching the ball. It’s because he’s a mismatch nightmare against almost anyone.
I thought the value would drop based on a seemed lack of interest in Zach for a week, and not much action in free agency until now.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Schefter Reporting that Tatupu is meeting with Oakland today
This would be a great signing
In Hue We Trust
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Aug 5, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions
hell yeah it would be.i share al's love of usc linebackers.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Aug 5, 2011 4:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Bush and Tatupu (or a comparable OLB) are the final pieces. Den vee show der Vurld sumting dey nayvr zee befoe!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 5, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If we sign Bush AND Tatupu...
We are playoff bound, garunteed.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Aug 5, 2011 8:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. Add a Guard and we vie for the AFC
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 5, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And if we somehow nab Asante Samuel
My head might explode
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Aug 5, 2011 9:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe
But he is a massive upgrade from Chris Johnson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Aug 5, 2011 9:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
he cant play man to man
so how is he a upgrade?
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 6, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Hate to see him leaving the GIANTS, but love to see him joining the RAIDERS
"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige
Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Aug 5, 2011 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
With Zac gone
We need the run game to excell even more , and they say this guy can block. I think the comment someone made about us throwing more to the TE than the Giants might prove the guy can catch too. I feel more comfortable about Miller leaving now . GRADE B R.F.F.R.
In 2010 Boos had the worst hands in the NFL % wise
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I don't think we hired him for his hands
and hope I’m right that we’re moving towards having receivers to receive instead. No surprise this comes via gangrenous nation!
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Valid point but it is worth noting
Many people on here were taking bout how solid of hands he has
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Quickie...
1) Sad to see Miller go, but with Boss we won’t be losing much. He’ll probably be more impressive with run blocking.
2) Don’t need another LB, I think Goethel can be the answer if given the opportunity.
3) We have young talented WRs, No on TO! Glad Floyd signed with SD, he didn’t have the speed to be a “Raiders.” Jacoby Ford is a young rising star, Louis Murphy can be a solid #2, last chance for Schilens, but if he is healthy, he’s exactly like Floyd with more speed. Look for the rookie Moore, to be another diamond in the rough at WR. We’re hearing great things in camp, I’m ready to see him in pre-season games to show case his skills!
We need another OLB. I like our 2nd Row best with Wimbley, Goethel and McClain, but what do we do when one gets hurt?
Groves is unfit, we don’t know what Blacksocks or Gbdabdyu can do for us, Scott is recovering (90 – 95% acl) and is listed DE anyway. In a word, we don’t have notable backups to prevent fall-off when a starter goes down.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
Patience advances a man to better times.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 6, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
1.Agree
2.thats ridiculous, I like Goethel too but we havent seen a full season out of him, what if he gets injured again?
3.I like our receivers too, but Floyd is a deep threat, he averaged 19.4 yds a catch last season.
by RyanTheRaider on Aug 6, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
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