Oakland Raiders' Personnel Packaging: 2011, Late Drives in the Opener at Mile High
Much to our surprise, the Oakland Raider offense that was the juggernaut that outscored Denver by some 70-plus points in two games last year and scored 8 touchdowns in Mile High failed to show up this time, and it was clearly the defense that gave us the edge against the Broncos. Slightly different personnel in bodies, but not much change in how we package them: Still primarily 21 personnel, with Darren McFadden at tailback, Marcel Reece at fullback, and Brandon Myers filling in nicely for the injured Kevin Boss.
Botched the recording of the game again, so I'll begin with where I have tape from. If I'm able to recover the first half, I'll post on those series as well.
Jump over for the play by play...
Richard Seymour sacks Kyle Orton to end the Denver Broncos' drive, and resume following a punt return putting our Oakland Raiders on the 10 yard line. Nearing the end of the third quarter, score 16-13 Raiders and Denver's lone touchdown coming off the 90 yard return by Pecker... umm Decker.
1st and 10. Single back formation, 12 personnel, two wideouts. McFadden deep, Jason Campbell under center, Brandon Myers TE left side, Richard Gordon right. Jason three step drops, pump fakes, drops back three more feet into the grasp of Denver LB/DE Jason Hunter, who beats RT Stephon Heyer off the snap and around the edge for a sack on JC who fumbles with McFadden quickly falling on the live ball for the recovery. A newbie mistake and loss of this battle by Stephon who should've had the experience to pick up Hunter; he'd better either learn to not get beaten so badly, or show some ability to recover. Barks may get time sooner than later if he keeps that up. Joseph Barksdale showed nice ability on this type of edge rusher in preseason action.
2nd and 16. I formation, 21 personnel, JC under center, with Reece and McFadden deep. Brandon Myers strong side TE. Handoff is to DMC off the left tackle for about four.
3rd and 12. Pro formation, 20 personnel, McFadden deep weak side, Reece shallow backfield strong side, three wide receivers, Nick Miller right side slot, DHB flanking left and Moore on the right. Protection is unable to pick up the sellout blitz, and captain checkdown throws it away in the vicinity of Moore.
Shane Lechler's punt fielded at the 34 is taken to 41 by Eric Decker who's taken down by Rock Cartwright with a nice open field tackle.
Denver working from three wideout, single back sets with the TE left side in shallow protection schemes. Raiders in a five man front with Tommy Kelly and Desmond Bryant the tackles, Matt Shaugnessy and Trevor Scott left and right ends respectively, Kamerion Wimbley standing up on the line left of Shaughnessy. LBs Rolando McClain and Quentin Groves in the box versus defensive weakside, where Knowshon Moreno lines up in the slot, cuts down and out in the flats and picks up some extra yards after DeMarcus Van Dyke misses the leg tackle and Groves almost misses the tackle and gives up the first into Raider territory.
1st and 10 from the 48. Orton under center. Moreno deep, three wide receivers. Eric Decker flanking left motions right before the snap outside the right flanker in the slot, with Chris Johnson coming over to follow him. Decker gets some separation about 15 yards deep on the right side cutting out and Orton hits him off the seven step drop with a timing throw before Decker's even looking. Nice play for the almost twenty yard gain. Chris Johnson tackling, could've read this route and seven step drop, but looks to have played safe here. CJ looks a little shaken up and will be out for the next play, and Jerome Boyd takes his place.
1st and 10 from the 24 yard line. Denver again in the deep single back formation, shallow strong side TE and slot WR bunch, two more on the flanks, Orton under center takes the snap, fakes the handoff to Moreno on the bootleg right, and loses grip of the football cocking back to throw, and Lamarr Houston is there to recover. He was coming hard, and might've made a play on the ball even if he didn't cause the errant slip... Big play, 99. Before the next snap, Dilfer breaks down the play after this next play and shows TE Fells wide open going down and in with only the single high safety to beat for the score had Orton not fumbled. Houston coming made Orton quickl try to get it off, perhaps causing the fumble, with the wet ball of course. D line saving us there against poor coverage on the TE and passes over the middle.
Raiders ball on their own 35 yard line. 21 personnel, Strong I, Myers right and Reece shallow behind him, Darren deep. The wide receivers are both right, and Denarius, wide right, comes in motion to the left finally dropping deep to decoy fake for the fake end around, and Jason buys time with the play action to hit Darrius Heyward-Bey, effectively from the slot finding some space in the middle to deep zone with the in pattern under the deep coverage in the seam and a nice catch. Feels weird, and good, to be saying that... 17 yard gain.
1st and 10 from the 47 yard line. Raiders, now in Denver territory, in 21 again, Strong I, Reece three yards deep strong side, McFadden deep, Myers lined up weakside motions right and sets. Campbell under center hands off to McFadden behind the Fullback lead off tackle right side. Darren hits the huge hole with a head of steam putting the defense on its heels as he cuts quickly against the grain ten yards downfield and cuts laterally while changing the ball to his upfield hand in textbook fashion and cutting laterally to make no less than four more defenders miss, down to the 1 yard line, where he's taken down.
1st and goal on the 12inch line, Raiders in jumbo two TE, third eligibile, I formation, Michael Bush, the short yardage stud behind Reece. Timeout Denver.
1st and goal, same formation as previous, this time Reece goes in motion from the I, to the weak side flank. JC under center takes the snap and keeps it on the sneak for the TD.
12:33 in the 4th quarter remaining. Oakland 23 Denver 13, with 13 Raider points coming off drives sustained from Bronco turnovers.
Broncos resume on the 20 after the touchback. Denver single back weak side, Orton lined up shotgun, TE strong side, slot receiver opposite with three wideouts and two flanking. Looks like we're 4-3 man press again, corners backing off before the snap. This time our front four blows the pocket up, and Kelly who creates initial pressure gets Orton by the foot while he attempts to escape the pressure right, for the sack four yards deep.
2nd and 14 16 yard line. Denver comes out in the same formation. Orton's looking downfield, but has to hit Moreno who finds some space underneath the deep coverage but short of the first, and fumbles the ball, stripped by Matt Giordano, but the Broncos recover.
3rd and 3. Seymour leaves the field shaken up on the play. Broncos again three wide, slot right, TE right, single back weakside. Desmond Bryant takes Kelly's place on the line, and Kelly in Seymour's. Looks like a 4-2-5 nickel defense for us. Brandon Lloyd with a hard inside slant picks up the first and some change, losing the football as Chris Johnson tackles, but Denver recovers. Probably would've been ruled down by contact anyways.
1st and 10. Denver in the same set. Holding negates a short pass gain of two yards.
1st and 20 38 yard line. Denver 11 personnel, single back strong side, TE on the left, slot receiver opposite w two flankers, Orton shotgun. Raiders send the front four, including Wimbley from the Sam spot up on the line where he usually comes from, and Rolando, who appeared to show dropping back before coming. Orton gets the ball off and almost completes it to Decker down the right sideline, who drops the diving attempt, but there's a flag on the play. Offsides on Houston, declined, and PI, on Stanford Routt covering Decker, accepted. More garbage yards to get Denver their only points they wouldn't have had without. On the replay it's questionable, to say the least, but moot.
1st and 10 from the 41 in Raiders' territory. Single back deep 11 personnel strong side, slot flanker opposite (notice a theme there?). Looks like we're going 4-2-5 nickel again, with a substitution of Boyd or DVD or Porter randomly. Routt and CJ usually manning up with the wideouts. This play Desmond Bryant deserves credit for absolutely blowing up his side guard, immediately drawing help from the TE, picking LT Clady, allowing Shaugnessy to come free on the stunt up the middle to cream Kyle Orton. Great play.
2nd and 19 from the 50 yard line. Denver in 10 personnel, four wide receivers, two slot left, two flankers, single back strong side. Orton under pressure throws to the middle, almost picked by Tyvon Branch.
3rd and 19, 50. 9:32 remaining in the 4th quarter. Same formation and similar play, Orton looks for the same seam on the right where two Raiders again converge on the ball to knock it down. Denver fans shouting "TEBOW, TEBOW." Morons. He's your third stringer anyways. Brady Quinn would come in first.
Raiders take over after the punt. 1st and 10 from the 20. A pitch left to McFadden is stopped for a gain of ayard or so by Brian Dawkins who's lined up on that side to meet him.
2nd and 9, 21. Raiders in 21 personnel, Marcel and Darren in the I behind JC under center. Play action fake to McFadden and JC throws deep to DHB attempting a double move down the right. Overthrown incomplete.
3rd and 9, 21. 21 personnel, backs in the pro form, the FB fake halfback toss to McFadden inside for three yards brings up the punt. Shane Lechler punts it 77 yards! O-mazing.
Penalty on first down brings up 1st and 5. 25 yard line. A hold on Denver negates a 7 yard gain by Daniel Fells on the out route. Dilfer, in a fleeting spell of brilliance, notes there should be a stat for D lineman like Houston who draw holding penatlies because of their efforts to the whistle. The tape reveals this was an insightful call by Trent: Lamarr was a beast and Denver's RT held because he was badly beaten.
1st 15 on 15 yard line. The HB draw to Moreno nets close to the first down. Our defense still suspect to this when we get caught looking pass. We'll have to be ready for the no huddle too, because NE absolutely picked Miami apart with it. Buffalo will attempt to get us there too, as will the NYJ. Those wiley Easterners.
23-13 Raiders, just under 7 minutes on the clock. 2nd and 6. Orton fires underneath coverage left side, but Chris Johnson jumps the receiver's route brilliantly, and knocks it down.
3rd and 6. Orton completes to McGahee underneath, who gets the first down after contact...
This is where my botched recording stops! Hopefully this game will be replayed this week, at which point I'll break down some more.
Penalties were often completely avoidable, but so long as they don't cost us, I'm okay with some of them. Especially in a game like this in their house. Flags were flying all day on both sides. Let's eliminate the drive killing ones, and those we can avoid.
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Do we have anyone on the roster, Lechler?, Bush? Pryor? who can throw a decent long ball, i.e. over 30 yards?!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
lol right?! its not raider football without deep completionscompletions
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 13, 2011 7:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
now wait a minute there
What you’re describing is Jay Schroeder. Rich Gannon, on the other hand, took us to the Super Bowl with much the same skillset as Jason Campbell.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Gannon at least threw to his WRs on occasion.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
to be fair
Gannon had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice, compare that to DHB and Ford for a second…
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Sep 13, 2011 8:55 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I wish we could compare them
Maybe in ten years?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Jason Campbell will not lead us to a Super Bowl!
The only way that happens is if he plays like Jesus Christ and not Jason Campbell!
Rich had the deep completions every so often. I am not saying every pass needs to be thrown deep but when they do throw deep we need better throws. Gannon threw a pretty deep ball when he wanted to.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 14, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Darren throws a pretty nice deep ball
and even did so a few times in Arkansas from the Wild Hog…
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I think JC is being judged prematurely.
Remember, his development began to show in the last 5 games of last season. Jason is really focused on timing and chemistry with his receivers. We just started the season and it began with a run plan. Lets wait and see if this progress continues. Jason is not a “jump to conclusions” kind of guy and tries to do things with a “sure thing” mindset, or so it seems. Remember, he and Stabler are different kinds of leaders. Hopefully this “quiet but strong” leader mind set is in the process of blossoming, and with the added increasing confidence, we just might start seeing the deep pass thrown with increasing accuracy. He has the arm strength for it.
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 14, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Where do you think his progress is so far? Half way there? Does he only need another 6 years before his deep ball materializes?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 14, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Michael Bush & Darren Mcfadden
both can throw the ball, i was happy when i seen the raiders line up in the wildcat. DMac used to own in that formation with felix jones in arkansas. Remember Michael Bush can throw well too, so i liked the formation. Sadly, it didn’t work because it was our first time running it, but if we gonna get it to work we gotta keep practicing it and use it more in goaline situations, maybe at the 10 yard mark in the RZ?
RAIDERS NATION
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lol. I just replied before seeing this
Marcel’s a rare athlete that can do it all too. I’ll be he can kick field goals decently as well.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Phenomenal player, love the Marcel.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 13, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The o-line played surprisingly well. Although I know they are still green, they did not look green last night.
I think Jason perhaps did not pass according to game plan. I want to see what he does when the game plan relies heavily on passing. Jury is still out, but I voted Jason needs to break the shell.
Am I the only one
who could see that for most of the game, not all, but most. Jason Cambell did not have the time in the pocket to throw it deep?
certain plays designed to exploit a pass rush have a deep hot option, as well as the typical safety valve checkdown
in a FB or TE. Jason NEVER finds the deep guy. Even Jamarcus did this once, I believe to Johnny Lee Higgins for a score.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I believe he hit DMC on a short out to the left
as a WR was breaking free down the seam. he didn’t wait or look. he only throws deep on max protect play fakes. we won’t be able to beat good teams with this alex smith style attack.
by lchristmas on Sep 13, 2011 9:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully, as the confidence in the 0-line and in the wrs grows, the hesitation should keep on reducing.
This is one of the patterns I have noted. Also, with such greater confidence, perhaps he might even start throwing a more accurate deep ball as Stabler did with Branch.
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 13, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Could be wrong,
but my understanding of JC’s role is that of being a conservative game manager. In the mold of a brady, or manning type QB. Now, before going off on that comparison, I am not trying to compare him to either of those guys, but from a strategic coaching perspective he is similar, he does not make mistakes “Period”. That is why we have built our run game to the point of being “Dominant.” Also that is why we have built the defense, and special teams the way we have, it works well in theory, with a careful game manager like JC. All that said, we will not reach a super bowl in my opinion without a quick strike element added to our offense, but I can see that is the direction that we are headed but Jc needs more time in the pocket, not allot more time, just a little bit more, and you will see our passing game go from frustrating and in efficient to downright scary. Once we give JC the time he needs, paired with a sick running game, dominant D, and exemplary special teams play, that is when you will see us compeating for a Superbowl again. Now, your guess is as good as mine as to how long it will take to get all of those ducks in a row, but I see clearly that we are headed in that direction currently, and again once JC gets some more time in the pocket, holy shit watch out!
+1
Instead of Manning or Brady type, I would go with Flacco or Rothlisberger type. Both are guys who are pocket passers with some athleticism/escapability. I think arm strength is similar but the Ravens and Steelers have had better receivers than we have in the past. Maybe our guys aren’t getting separation downfield.
This should be an interesting season for JC. I think being in the same system with improved receiving options may help him find the accurate deep ball and get this offense moving.
Some keep dogging our current set of receivers ...
but, I think that it is going to end up being a strength for us with those guys already on the roster. Still experiencing growing pains, but I believe they’ll mature this season into a competent bunch.
I am hopeful that with time, JC may even become speedy in his release,
and in the process the wr Kraken, or hydra, may be released.
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 14, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed, and that's an astute observation imo
and he does that very well indeed. I just want to see a nice deep ball! He can throw them deep and still be safe with the ball, but he’s got to overcome the wishing and going through the motions on anything outside of his comfort zone. I agree he’s finally getting some time, and we should see the protection schemes improve and give him a little more. I’d prefer he got the yips out of his system before then, and hit the ground running when it all comes together.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
O line impressed
for me, the poll option was arbitrary there.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
one could make a solid argument, but I was with Jason
the really costly penalties kept their drives alive, not stall our offense. Jason must improve in some key areas. I love that he protects the ball, but he’s conservative to a fault.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
OK RAIDERS, so whats the next matchups we need to think about?
I just was over at www.buffalobills.com, and it looks like QB Fitzpatrick is not afraid of putting balls out there to make big plays….also looks like (at least against the Queefs) that he spread the ball around pretty even to his WR and TE Chandler, Fred Jackson also had a McFadden-like day on the ground, statistically it looks like they gave it to KC every way they could (I expect us to do the same)……Fill me in guys, I’m fairly new at this and what do our match-ups look like? I mean its a short week it’ll be Sunday before you know it, What do we need to do different (in addition to everything we did right on monday) to get this thing done and start off 2-0?
Well first off DMc needs another big game. I don’t truly believe this bills team is THAT good. The wrs also need to show up more this time and of course they need to stop the run. Fitzpatrick is underrated but he’s no Brady. Routt and cj need to stick to their man. Stevie Johnson is their best wr. I think the raiders can do a better job on the bills than what the queefs did. I say 31 24 raiders
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 13, 2011 8:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Front four (and Wimbley) will need to be on fire
and we’ll have to dial up blitzes with defensive backs at times to contain Fitz from escaping pressure too with guys who can catch him. Fred Jackson is dangerous, but that’s where the D line will be absolutely essential in winning the point of attack. Denver has a smaller offensive line. Buffalo presents a slightly tougher challenge there, and I think our linebackers and safeties are still suspect to the big play, so we’ll have to have them continue to be smart and stay home, Wimbley and Groves will need to help seal the edge on downhill blocking plays.
Stevie Johnson can be super elite, and guys like him can pick us apart if we let them. Fitz threw for five tds to four different receivers for TDs, with two going to the TE Chandler. We’ve got trouble there if we don’t get to Fitz early and often. We’ll have to have someone help neutralize the TEs/ FB/ and Spiller out of the backfield on third downs.
Of course, offensive production and clock consumption will be our friend, but the Bills can score quickly, so we’ll have to have a complete defensive and offensive team showing to win. This game won’t be easy, and it’ll be cold and the second week we’ve travelled. Hard to keep everyone even from getting ill this time of year doing that. And it’s a short week.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Matchup vs The Bills
Another team trying to make it, i mean they have alot of losing seasons, Basically the bills are like the raiders right now, starting off 1-0 and both teams are carrying momentum from their games. I see the matchup to be the same as the broncos. Fred Jackson? He will not run between Seymour & Kelly, only chance they they have is the outside but as you can see broncos tried that with Mcgahee( Power Back) and Moreno (Elusive). I hear Bills have a beast TE now, but i don’t mind because Rolondo can basically keep up with RB’s so speed wont be a factor, height though might be but Rolondo has gone against better TE’s like Gates so he knows talent. Don’t know so much about Bills but i sure if their gonna spread the offense, im sure we gonna get 5+ sacks this game, Just because our front four is to dominate. As i have said, If Wimbley won’t get you, someone will, if not maybe its a holding call lol. Only thing i see that is a factor for the Bills is Stevie and CJ. Stevie is like Lloyd in Broncos, hes gonna get catches but were gonna shut him down as the game goes. CJ spiller on KR/PR can be devastating for us, even though that decker PR was BS because of the illegal block in the back on blackstock, CJ has the speed and move to make guys miss so, ST will be the biggest factor for the Bills.
RAIDERS NATION
"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"
by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 13, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm talking with the Bills fans on BR
and they all seem confident (not arrogant, though, which is a nice change from the Donkey trolls).
Their offense is similar to ours in that it’s potentially very explosive (maybe even more than ours, cause Fitzpatrick to Johnson is better than any of our combinations right now, although McFadden is probably the biggest weapon on either side) so our D better step up. Buffalo’s offensive line isn’t great, which gives us some chances to go after Fitz.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
We are 4 point underdogs to the bills. Figures, they had us as 3 point underdogs to the broncos. I say we win this game by a td but it worries me cuz it’s on the east. Hopefully ford and huff get healthy by then . Raiders have to give the ball to DMc just like Monday night
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 13, 2011 8:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Why am I surprised? No respect. We need this one badly and then the Jets, yes even after we beat Fitzpatrick (sack him 6 times)
we’ll be discounted and dismissed – so be it!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 13, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see a different set of weapons used this week
I mean since we have so many, Get Tawain in on that rotation, Denarius too, I know thier respective flashes of brilliance were in preseason, but these guys are assets all the way, I’m still curious what moore coulda done on that reverse if it was executed with a little moore confidence, lol, Reece is a beast!! Our running game is set, as long as that O line blocks the way it did monday, We just need Campbell to get into a throwing rhythm for real. Seemed like he threw away alot of balls last night, was the coverage that good? I swear that one deep ball to DHB was Al Davis stlye all the way, if only it woulda been caught in bounds……GO RAIDERS
Taiwan should be our punt returner, it's just a waste we're not using him there - he is perfect.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 13, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
or at least Moore
Miller was garbage.
by samiam2112 on Sep 13, 2011 9:30 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Someone earlier on here was saying
that Hagan would have screwed up the coverage, but I say what he lacks in speed (compared to ford or moore I mean) he makes up for in athleticism, experience, and ball awareness….sure the coverage might change a little but he might be just the guy to target within Campbell’s comfort zone (Hit the nail on the Head Sons-of-Blanda +1)
They better damn well play Derek Hagan next week or I'm posting a scathing diatribe
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 13, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
lol. that went without saying, I believe
am I right, SBP?
I’ll join in, of course, as it will be justified 100%. Anything less could cost us.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
+1, and I'll be equally pissed if they don't try getting Taiwan that ball
pending the injuries of course, I’d rather have them later than never if their dings end up being worse than expected
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 13, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LMAO
As long as they play well hue can make whoever he wants inactive.
It’s not a traveling circus where it is owed to us to show our favorite acts.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 8:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
but if fielding the best players to help you win is what you claim
he needs to be available to us. Where was Chaz in that game yesterday, btw?
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
+1
I mean I’ll take whatever win we can get, all Im saying is that I dont want to see an aspect of our game totally underperforming or non-existant, while there are guys sitting on the sidelines who could completely turn that around, thats all I’m getting at, I mean seriously, If Ford’s having a flat day, or maybe McFadden or BUsh need some rest, throw Taiwan in there on 1st or second down, ya know, Utilize everything we have, I dont just want to be entertained, I know its not a fucking circus, I just want to win games by more than 3 pts, and if there are weapons standing by that can increase that lead to 7, 10, 17 etc. etc, Im all about using them, its what great teams do, look at New Orleans with Brees their Superbowl season, they used absolutely every weapon every week that was available to them to win games….
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 13, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Well some of us know football enough that we can see or evaluate talent, ultimately football talent.
Some say, “I’m pretty sure the coaches know more than us.” Ummm, true on some/most aspects but not completely true. Football is not rocket science.
DHB did good but I don’t doubt Hagan could’ve done the same if not more. DHB finally was targeted on some short cuts to medium cuts instead of going deep, Hagan can do that too. Hagan also uses his hands. The one catch DHB caught with his hands was the deep ball which was impressive but it didn’t count, he needs to still work more at it.
Hagan should start, or at least Ford and Moore since they cut very well and catch very well.
The RaiderLaker
I certainly hope so....
I hope everyones healthy and am looking forward to Sunday
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 13, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
So you think you know as much as the coaching staff
Considering certain people were saying Edwards should be the starter and others predicting he would be the starter halfway through preseason, most people saying DHB should be cut I think it’s safe to say the coaches know MUCH more about the roster than any of us and to say any different is plain egotism.
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"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 9:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not saying Hagan isn't a good player who is worthy of reps
But to freak out if he doesnt get the touches you think he should from the armchair in your living room is just stupid.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 9:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No one here is freaking out, I'm just saying he should get his reps.
If we want to win and get passing yards he is a reliable vet. Not once Did I say i know as much as them, i said in player evaluation any dude can do it. If you know how football is played, you know how a football player should play.
never said i knew all this shit and the x’s and o’s and all that other technical stuff.
There is a difference between being a fan of a guy’s decision over just wanting to be a fan of winning with the guys that produce more than others.
:P
The RaiderLaker
Look DHB has the talent but he is inconsistent, we'll see wasup in the next game.
Not hating on him, just want him to train more and not be a starter. DHB has potential but I want consistency at the WR position, not asking for too much just a reliable target man.
Let’s see if he shuts me up for good in the next game. Consistency is key!!!
The RaiderLaker
Actually I see SOB will "freak out" if he doesn't play as he stated above.
But it’s just the truth, Hagan was pretty clutch in the Pre also. The pre is the pre but Hagan knows football.
The RaiderLaker
LOL I dont disagree with that at all though
I just think it’s hard to be too critical of the descision when they won. You might be right though and perhaps Hagen might have performed well and he was definitely great in preseason but who knows now and we won. With the way we were running we didn’t really need to pass as much DMoe and schillens didn’t even see a ball there way the whole game!
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 11:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, because the same decsision makers who decided to cut Edwards also decided to inactivate Hagan that makes the Hagan decision right?
Is your soul purpose now to support each and every decision this organization makes?
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 13, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you would like that XD
I am saying that perhaps the people who said Edwards should start perhaps are not the talent evaluators they think they might be and that I think it’s safe to say it was an ok call by the coaching staff based on the result.
Bottom line is that we have a good coaching staff that has given us no reason to doubt them YET. I am a big Hagan fan and if we lost the game because receivers couldn’t make plays then the criticsism would be fair but we didn’t we won, the recovers made the plays they needed to and we are 1-0.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 11:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is it you're purpose now to find some fault despite any result or reason?
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 11:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Only concern myself with the faults that can and should be corrected. Groves still can't cover and will
be exploited, same with Boyd and, truth be told, Huff. The squeaky wheel gets oiled. I want a new LB and I want the best players getting the most snaps.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 14, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I can understand that
The players that get the snaps will also depend on the game plan though and what they are trying to do and I can’t accept that Schillens playing over Hagan was a mistake when we have all been trumpeting Schillens as a potential number one for ages. Only so many receivers can play.
You have to admit though that Groves had a pretty impressive game, lead the team in tackles had a forced fumble and also a tackle for loss. Boyd also played great in that role and when Mitch comes back we will be better again.
I share your concern about coverage of linebackers but in our scheme the safeties generally pick up the TE’s anyway.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
side note
I was sitting in a bar in New Orleans last night watching the game, and after Janikowski got that 63 yarder this guy turn to me and said “how long was that?” I said 63 yards, he said wow, I need to call my buddy Adam, I said uh ok, and he said my buddy Adam Treu, you know used to be long snapper for the team? I was like “oh shit!” small world, he went on to explain to me that he was friends growing up with him in Nebraska and that he used ot live in Napa and how he used to watch games in the Black Hole with Treu and Gannon’s wife..yada yada yada, small frieken world…..good story though, 6 degrees of Oakland Raider separation lol
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 13, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agreed
DHB wasn’t a factor in the game. I was hoping to see Hagan at least get to run a couple routes. I’d also rather see Ford and Moore instead of Ford and DHB out there.
by Edward Treadway on Sep 13, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
"DHB wasn’t a factor in the game"
i take it you didnt watch the game.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 13, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He actually was, but let's see if he can be consistent and produce not dissapear.
He had some pretty clutch receptions.
The RaiderLaker
I don't often say this that was idiotic...
Haters will continue to hate give the kid he due. Ignorance runs amok. For your edification he was the only fucking receiver on the field who didn’t drop a ball and converted important first downs. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t lessen his contributions!
by samiam2112 on Sep 13, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 11:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
DHB is finally ...
hitting his comfort zone. Do believe he is going to continue to progress with this team and become a legitimate threat.
I must admit I expected Hagan to be a huge part of the action
but also expected to see Taiwan get some time. Who knows; maybe they’re “dinged” or “nicked.”
The use of personnel, who was active, and some other things puzzled me bigtime. Hagan better not be listed IA next week if he’s healthy. We’ll need him.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I still think there was a reason
His health could have been a factor?
Also he may be used in the second game against Denver, Hue not tipping his hand.
Also Chaz played an awful lot. I still view him as the Chaz role not the DHB role. He is the possession slot guy that Chaz was supposed to be. DHB on the outside is a space creator. and Chaz was a 0 last night. I want to see Hagan in the Chaz spot!
Yeah Chaz didn't do much and I tend to agree that Hagan is a better option in that spot
We also didn’t have to pass that much because we ran so well so there weren’t a huge amount of targets to go around.
I am just really happy for DHB to make those clutch first downs when he did and also the catch on the deep ball even though it was out of bounds is a good sign for sure.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 11:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
After reading the above positives and negatives, and as much as I am a Hagan fan, I have some pretty deep reservations that he will be played.
Perhaps when the game plan includes more passing we might see Hagan. However, I think he is not going to be played in favor of our young receivers of which have Al’s approval. They are the speed guys he covets and am sure Al was involved in their being drafted. I think Hagan is just a filler. Everyone else besides Hagan and Murphy were on the field at some point. When Murphy returns, I think the coaches will have another reason not to play Hagan. If more receivers get hurt we might see Hagan. Not trying to sound pessimistic about Hagan, but I feel that this is what the coaches are thinking. In addition, as far as DHB goes, Hue lauded his performance and has stated that DHB has so much to offer. That directly tells me that DHB is going to continue to be played and in a starting role.
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 14, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Had to drop in and show off my Pic.
I gotta say folks we’re bad.
And we probably should have won that game….
We’re just lucky KC looks so bad
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
not pretty thus far. We're not exactly thrilled with our performance either
but will take a W to start the season for a change. It’s been a long, long time.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
well I'd have to disagree with ya there
The punt return TD was a fluke, and your late touchdown was a millisecond from being a seymour sack (watch the video), not to mention Bush almost broke the last run (which subsequently murdered whatever hope you had left, hehe) for a long TD….The only reason this game wasn’t a 30-13 game was a few lucky plays in your favor, the score doesn’t accurately represent how much we dominated you guys…….see you Nov 6 :)
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 13, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
they definitely did almost nothing without our help, but if he's saying we almost found a way to lose again
you’d be hard-pressed to argue otherwise. Scoreboard tells that. We dominated both sides of the ball and still barely beat them; one play on several occasions could’ve changed the score, so although I agree we’d beat them 9 out of 10 games, we could’ve easily lost last night.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I just meant...
to convey to the donkey fan in the room that it wasn’t a game they should have won, because it wasn’t. they collapsed when they had a chance, and sure, the score ended up close, but that in no way reflects that they “should have” won that game, I stand firm that the PR touchdown was a fluke because of Lechlers beastly leg, and the 4th quarter TD was literately a millisecond from a seymour sack, I mean he barely got that ball off while seymour still bear slammed his ass on the ground, again, a play that was mere luck, that got them back into the game (should have been a 3pt drive for them)…..I know we weren’t great, we were sloppy as hell, no arguing that here, but what I will argue is the NOTION from a frieking Donkey fan that they “should have won that game” ha ha either way, we be 1-0, they be 0-1 NEXT! Buffalo should be an exciting game I have to work so i’ll be following the mini football field on nfl.com
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 13, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
3 turnovers and a three point victory? Yeah... don't feel beaten much EXCEPT by ourselves.
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 14, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
their receivers dropped a ton of passes it seemed
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
actually he did
hes a few comments up from here, hes got the SBP logo as his profile photo
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 13, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I gotta give it to Whidbey, he is a man of his word and therefore I welcome him to return and blog with us anytime.
He speaks in terms of a spirited rivalry, not a hater or an enemy, which is what it should be. By the way, in terms of a spirited rivalry, are you really a Raiderette in secret? (Oh, the horror of it all.)
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 14, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks.
See you in Oaktown!!!!
Same bet….
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 14, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You can sign me up now
I think Fox will usher in some winning ways again, but it’ll take some time. Solid nucleus of players, but I think you still need help in the middle of your line. I find the defense similar to ours before the addition of Seymour, who came when Houston came, and also lit a fire under the asses of Desmond Bryant, Matt Shaughnessy, Trevor Scott, and Tommy Kelly.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
To Whidbey Bronco
Ok first of all you guys blame it all on Orton? when really your O-line sucks balls? Stop blaming Orton foreals, he messed up but he scored eventually and brought your team back in the game. Next to blame is your defense, Cmon there was 3 minutes at least in the 4th and you knew we were going to run and you still can’t stop us? Your PR was BS but hey what can i say, we always get BS just for being a Raider. Honestly depth as a team can’t even touch the talent we have on our Team Overall. Blame your WRs for not getting open, i don’t know how much time Orton had when seymour sacked him but it was a while, i understand that he didn’t want to just fling it in there and get a Interception. And another thing, to believe Tebow is Elway is saying Shane Lechler is the Greatest RB of all time, completely retarded, Bronco fans wnat real advice? STFU and Support your QB, At least you guys didn’t have to deal with our QB when we had Russell so just stfu and cheer your team on you donkeys.
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 13, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
well said. Orton's not bad. He didn't get any help, especially from his O line
but lots of catchable balls hit the ground too
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
He made some good throws too and a couple if plays with his fewt
Orton is far from their biggest problem
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 9:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah Orton wasn't the problem
If anything, his WR’s let him down on more than a few catchable passes. I would like to have Orton on our roster. Easily would be a top 5 backup in the league, and would be interested to see if he would challenge JC.
What the hell? You guys? I sure as hell didn't blame Orton! I ended up skipping MHR that night for all that stupid shit!
None of the shit you said up there applies to me! In fact I agree with most of it except for how much of an ass you make of yourself by assuming I’m an idiot fan…. that’d be just like me coming in here and stereotyping you guys as regular Raiders fans …Oh MAN YOUR STEREOTYPE IS NOT FLATTERING!!!!!
You can have Tebow.
I’m hoping we can find some talent after McD dismantled us!! But I’m happy with last years draft.
I’m FINE building around Orton for now and given what he had to work with… thought he did pretty damn good vs you guys.
Our defense sucks and if we have ANY serious injuries this year we’ll probably be in the race for Luck!!!
Meanwhile …look in the mirror – You guys were UNIMPRESSIVE
As bad as we were/ARE without the three turnovers …you lose that game. simple as that.
Some advice for STFU yourself when you don’t know who you’re talking to!
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 14, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
lol. I can vouch. I don't remember you partaking. I was saying he was right about Orton
must be tough to watch a stadium full of fans screaming that nonsense.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
i'm embarrassed for our fans...
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 15, 2011 5:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Still, that dropped ball Houston gobbled up may have cost the game
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2011 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah... the old argument was it the first mistake or the las\t...
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 15, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I Expected You To Be A Stand Up Fan....Not So For The Reast???
They hide from the shame in a short week???…
Personal Foul:
“Unsportsmanlike Conduct”
15 extra days!!!
I liked what I saw from the DL
Even when they didn’t touch Orton, they collapsed the pocket virtually every play and didn’t allow him to step into his throws. I can’t explain how happy I am to see us mixing in 5 man fronts, it could be a very possible foundation for how we play defense, considering our plethora of talent on the d line.
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Sep 13, 2011 9:03 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Is the next game televised? I have cox cable so I almost never get to watch raider games unless they play SD. Imma have to turn the radio on then. I say DMc has an equal or bigger game Sunday.
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 13, 2011 9:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
doubtful they'd air that game over some other morning games
but that slot increases odds depending on where you live.
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""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Did the chiefs even pressure Fitz? Our dline won’t let Fitz sit in the pocket long enough to throw tds that’s for sure.
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 13, 2011 9:07 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Dont think so
KC runs a 3-4 so basically relys on their LB’s to get most of the pressure. Our 4 lineman will cause damage for the bills. I mean you can’t double everyone right?
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 13, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Erik Pears is their starting RT
that should say it all, no?
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Yeah he is
Big day for our D-Ends!!
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 13, 2011 9:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Look for Breshnahan to scheme some different pressures to that side of the line
Our whole d-line could have a big game again, but especially Houston and Wimbley working on Pears.
Does anyone know where I can find radio highlights of the game?
Or if I can?
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Radio highlights? man youtube is actually a pretty cool website man.
Have you ever been to youtube?
:)
The RaiderLaker
Have you?
They never have those a day after the game. nfl.com used to have them, but I guess not now.
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
Im talking about highlights w/papa's calls on radio
"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson
by hero66 on Sep 14, 2011 12:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I voted JC
That was a TD he missed to DHB! That would have been another 60 yards and another score.
Great QB’s don’t miss that throw! Really good QB’s don’t miss that throw! Mediocre QB’s do…
He was way out of sync after the half. Penalties had something to do with it as well. When he walked up to the line I think it was 3 and 3 and Pile High was rocking hard, then Heyer had b2b false starts then making in 3 and 15 then JC had to call a time out that was a veteran move. Jason needs to not key on one guy and needs to make quicker decisions and look off safeties and corners. .Just win baby!!
I voted JC
but I do think it was that the whole team played tight, they really wnated this win.
The aggresiveness and nerves if you will lead to alotof the penalties;
Raiders wanted to hit somebody, tackle somebody, block somebody, make a big play on every play.
Raiders do need to play smarter as well as aggresive football to reach the Super Bowl!
Raiders will play
just as aggresive against Buffalo, but with greater confidence [not arrognace or a sense of entitlement];
Mr. Giordano’s play at safety was great example of consitent intelligent and aggresive play.
Best the Raiders have experienced since Mr. Van McElory plyed free safety.
I think he will allow Mr. Huff and Mr. Branch to do what those two do best, one covers the other tackles and recovers forced fumbles again.
If Mr. Huff is not healthy I do hope Mr. Mitchell is, because we will need at least one of them for the next game and beyond.
yes. Giordano deserves a nod
great game, and key acquisition for us it appears.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Totally agree with both responses--MG is a nice sage and cagey veteran player
And GREAT post, brhynno.
As a teacher, I respect people who can teach well and from whom I can learn from, and I am learning more about this team, the intriguing dynamics of specific plays of the game, and football in general from you, brother. Thanks.
that's awesome. I remain a student of education
I studied English Ed. in college, and plan to purse a graduate degree as well. Appreciate the kind words; glad you are absorbing it. I learn a lot from the tape as well. It’s the appreciation and also seeing our guys throw terms around like coaches here that fuels my passion for the X’s and O’s most.
I’ll be sure to get my recordings in order in the future! We’ll have at least three our four installments per game. Thanks for participating.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
How do you get all the jersey numbers on each play; I can't see half the numbers on any given play
Btw, going back for an MA in English Ed. to teach?
he showed he doesn't lose the instincts to play the ball
all that space out there can be daunting, but for a guy like Matt, who seems to have some of that Rod Woodson instinct, the field is only as big as the quarterback’s eyes and how well he can look off and pump fake. Matt played the qb drops and looked for routes by the wide receivers to indicate what people in his neck of the woods might be doing. Me likey.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Instincts is exactly the right word!
It’s an amazing fit for his talents and this system. Although it’s only week 1 LOL. I really like what I saw and if we see it a few weeks in a row, then we have really found something!

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