Apology for Raider Penalties

Ever. Period. Especially when they happen on 3rd down when the defense otherwise would have been off the field.

but when the penalties negate an otherwise brilliant play that helped your team, double hurting you, it’s a clear lapse of focus on what’s important. I don’t mind some of the unecessary roughness and bs that will be called, and I for one was very pleased to see it in Bryant, so all in all, I expect some penalties to be called on us, but we can all agree we need to minimize the ones that stall our own drives, and those that put our opponents in the freaking red zone and give offense where it isn’t.

Good breakdown of these, btw. Didn’t Denver actually have more flags than us? There’s the noise factor and lack of cohesion by this young O line too, which is to be expected to a certain degree. So long as we improve week to week.

not on our end of the field, and not if were trailing and a 15 yard penalty puts them in first and goal…its situational for sure…..at one end of the spectrum, it can be that motivating spark that sets off the defense and brings up the aggression to that next level, and at the other end of the spectrum it can represent a complete breakdown in composure and make a dire situation even worse….

Rolando!

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Albeit, more physicality was allowed back then, but those great defenses constantly pushed the envelope on “dirty plays” because they knew they would still win the game anyway. The W is all that matters, and if you can intimidate your opponents with said physicality (much like the Steelers do now), the penalties will not make much difference. That being said, 3rd and long is never a good time to draw a dumb penalty!

So ladies … How would u guys grade chucks first game as dcoord.? I thought he did well. I expect bigger things from him and the d. Also I’m rootin for Calvin and the lions to rip apart the queefs!!!

The oline surprised me. Only one sack if I’m not mistaken and it came when Heyer was at rt. He didn’t look good from what I saw. Hopefully barksdale and bcampbell are comin alOng well

I’d prefer to err on the side of saying that no penalty is a good penalty, at least for now; I think that should be the attitude going forward until the team becomes more disciplined.

Holding can can be an difficult one as I would rather a holding penalty than for the Oline to let someone in the back field to completely blow up a play possibly causing a fumble, getting the QB killed etc.

I am cool with a few unnecessary roughness or roughing the passer penalties although I would just prefer them in the opposing teams own half instead of close to the red zone on third down a la Shaughnasty but even still I like the aggression.

My biggest problem with penalties is that WE are 95 percent of the time each game are getting the penalties. Most games I have seen us play that the other team does the same thing but no flag is thrown!!!! We know we will get the penalties so we might as well make the penalty worth it. Roughing the passer…make it worth by taking that QB out!!! Pass interference…take out the WR’s arm or leg!!!

unnecessary roughness on a 3rd down is unacceptable, especially when the penalty is moving the ball. Roughness is acceptable when the player you are up against is playing dirty, a statement can be necessary because you don’t want to let a player think you are going to accept their bullsh-t.. The Raiders talent is whipping the opposing team physically anyway is also my point. Roughing the passer is another unnecessary penalty because the QB has released the ball and if the penalty is called correctly you could have avoided hitting the QB and chose to do so. Also, because you can do it is not always the best reason, I know I don’t want players taking shots at my QB unnecessarily, and you had better believe if you rough my QB, I am roughing yours, even off a corner blitz…lol

Pass interference, and I have had a few of those…lol If I am beat and it will stop a score its a no brainer. However, if you play the ball you can avoid those calls and that in itself is easier said than done most times. Corners will not take their eyes off the receiver if their body is in the wrong position. If you do, when you look back he can be gone!! So when you are screaming on your couch to look back, look back..lol For the most part they don’t have their body in the right postion to do so without running the risk of losing the Wideout and that is disasterous and an extemely bad habit to get. It’s only when you are constantly getting beat and are grabbing and holding almost every play that here is a problem. Proper technique can keep a DB in position to not get in trouble if he has speed, Penalties are indeed necessary sometime, I would rather not allow a score and have a chance to stop that, than to just allow a touchdown when I could have stopped it, even if I have to hold the guy…lol Then on the other hand certain penalties are plain stupid and hurt the team, like giving up 15 yards and first down when you have shutdown the opposing offense. That is how you LOSE games!!!

So it depends on the situation when a penalty is flagrant, a flagrant/intentional penalty should only happen if it helps the team, (i.e. Prevents a Touchdown) not when it hurts the team.(i.e. gives the opposing team a first down when they would punt otherwise)

Orton couldn’t make a pass to save his life, he let the game just “slip” out of his hands.

If Denver would had played mistake free football, it would have been a different game (as they gave up the ball several times in their own territory).

It didn’t help that 4 big names in Denver got hurt in the 1st quarter (Dumerville, Lloyd, Knowshon, Bailey). I was shocked Denver didn’t stack the box as often as they did preseason – it left them open for the run up the middle, which obviously worked really well for you guys.

Hats off to the Raiders for capitalizing on Denver’s mistakes, and doing what you do best, running the ball.

Jano’s kick. they are saying it was a 64 YDer!!

…and there are very rarely any exceptions to that. The current level of penalities undermines our ability to win games, simple as.

The only exceptions to that were, the aforementioned RoMac splat attack on Sproles which announced his arrival in the NFL and the second was Big Richs bitch slap on Big Ben (Oh the irony!).

And “Death RO” ‘s WWF body slam last year was needed too. So kid’s , the answer is A.

I don’t mind roughing the passer penalties, or unnecessary roughness penalities………………………..if they are on 1st down or still in the opponnents territory. However, committing those penalities in situations that affect the game I will never condone. It’s just stupid, it nearly cost the Raiders the game against the Donks. It extended their drives which allowed them to hang in the game. Some situations will call for it, but this is the kind of discipline issues the Raiders have gone through for years. The league is different then it was back in the old days. Saftey is a larger priority and thus more flags are being called. It isn’t a rugged league back when concussions were just “bell ringers.” Be a smart bully, don’t commit that stuff in the 4th, close games, or in Raider territory.

Sigh.

Broncos | Players irritated with QB debate
Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:07:36 -0700

Denver Broncos players are becoming frustrated with the debate as to whether QB Tim Tebow should start over QB Kyle Orton. “I think it’s all B.S.,” WR Brandon Lloyd said. “I think everybody is just waiting for an opportunity to move (Orton) out and play anybody other than him.” LB Jason Hunter added, “It’s just the beginning of the season. Kyle is our starter. He’s a human being just like we all are. Sometimes things don’t go the way that you want them to go, but you can’t just be so quick to jump ship.”

Raiders | Darrius Heyward-Bey just scratching surface
Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:46:43 -0700

Oakland Raiders head coach Hue Jackson said Tuesday, Sept. 13, that WR Darrius Heyward-Bey is just scratching the surface of what he can do as a receiver. Several times in the Week 1 game against the Denver Broncos, he turned third-down plays into first downs. “I expect more from him. There’s a lot more in there,” Jackson said. “He’s truly coming on.”

Raiders | Matt Giordano might start in Week 2
Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:45:51 -0700

Oakland Raiders FS Matt Giordano might start in Week 2 against the Buffalo Bills if FS Michael Huff (groin) is unable to play.

Raiders | Darren McFadden might see more time in Wildcat
Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:45:25 -0700

Oakland Raiders RB Darren McFadden was used in the Wildcat formation on the first play from scrimmage in the Week 1 game Monday, Sept. 12, against the Denver Broncos. Head coach Hue Jackson said McFadden might be used in that role again some time this season.

if the raiders played like that the whole game,well i say another repeat score of last years game. also the one penalty on chris johnson for holding/pass interference, well all he did was bump the wr and run with him. that was a bad call and even those poor annoucers said that was a gimme penalty to the broncos. the refs grade – c.

Are the reasons my parents, family and myself fell in love with this team back in the early days! This type of play defines Oakland and all east bay residents and some just don’t under stand what was happening back in those days and the surrounding communities could damn sure relate to the actions that these players took to the field. We have won the big show with the same attitude and style of play that we showed Monday and for the way this team is meant to be built, then this is the way we get back to greatness. Stay thirsty my raiders and draw first blood.

LOL of course you have to look at the situation on penalties, this was the most biased poll i have seen from you yet and they are always entertainingly sloped.

After week 1 DMc has more rushing yds than AP, cj, and Arian foster combined(although he didn’t play) I know there’s still 15 games to go but DMc has a chance tonlead the NFL in the end

Routt gave up only one catch for 15 yds CJ gave up 6 out of 7 for 88 yds. Rust?? Or sign of things to cone for cj after a solid year in terms of burn %?

Those penalties particularly the two that could have meant the team was coming off the field as opposed to staying on and getting 15 more yards were as stupid as any I’ve seen in any NFL game in years. There is a point when the officials are calling it close like the McClain head butt was weak especially after the Broncs lineman was yanking on his face mask prior but the late hit and some of the other penalties that led to Broncos points when the game was well in hand were unacceptable. At the time the score was 16-13 we may have been up 24-3 possibly or 24-10 if not for about 5 or 6 of those costly penalties.

Unnecessary roughness on first down? No problem. But if it’s third down, we’ve stopped them, and then give them the 1st through a penalty, that’s never okay.