Oakland Raiders Come Up One Play Short Of Winning The Game Of The Day:
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 19, 2011 8:54 AM PDT
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Yesterday, I witnessed two teams battling each other for relevancy. I also saw two teams that were, due to injuries to Oakland's starting two wide-outs and tight-end, evenly matched.
The contest was a tale of two halves with each team putting together the best half that they could imagine. Oakland looked like the best team in the NFL in the first half and took a 21-3 lead into the break.
Buffalo then responded with a record breaking half that made them look like the best offense on the face of the planet, or the history of the NFL. In scoring five touchdowns on all five of their possessions, Buffalo made scoring look as easy as if they were on offense in 5-7 year old Pee-Wees. Then again, even those teams don't score EVERY time they have the ball.
Lost in all of the stats, headlines and commentary is one simple fact. The Raiders had three chances to seal the game, with the ball in their hands and they weren't able to do it.
I had the opportunity to watch the game yesterday with Oakland Raider Linebacker Travis Goethel who is recovering from a knee injury. While in the midst of watching his fellow defenders being marched backwards down the field time and again, Travis was asked what you do as a defensive player to stop the opposition. Travis replied, "You look to step up and make a play. You need to do something to stop their momentum and reassert yourself". Just as he said that, Richard Seymour tackled the running back and the Offensive lineman in the backfield.
This seemed to get the defense back into a rhythm and the Bills drive stalled at the Oakland 8 after two incompletions in a row. Then a yellow flag was thrown for a defensive holding on Chris Johnson and the Bills had the momentum back with a first and goal from the four yard line.
Now, you can say, If Chris Johnson wasn't holding there it would have been 4th and 8, forcing a likely field goal and the Raiders would have still bee up by 1 with the ball and 4:48 left. But, there was a play that came up next that would have likely ended the game.
With momentum back on Buffalo's side, Fitzpatrick threw a pass directly into Tyvon Branch's hands that went through them and into the hands of his tight end Scott Chandler. That was the first play that should have been made that would have seen Oakland up by 4 points with the ball and an offense that was on a roll.
After going down the field once more and scoring on an A-Mazing bomb to Denarius Moore, the Raiders would put themselves into position two more times to effectively end the game
On the final drive with the game on the line, the Buffalo Bills completed two forth downs, but, on each of those plays nobody was actually in position to make a play.
There was however an opportunity for Chris Johnson to show that he is a player in this League when he had an interception firmly in his grasp and then let it be slapped away by a good play from the intended receiver.
With Buffalo on the Oakland 15 yard line with 27 seconds on the clock Fitzpatrick tried a corner end zone route and Chris Johnson had it snuffed out perfectly. He was in perfect position to make the pick and end the game, but couldn't get it tucked.
It did set up 3rd and 10 and then 4th and 1, but nobody was in position to end the game, so the Chris Johnson failed pick attempt was the defenses last chance to end the game as Buffalo scored with 14 seconds left to go up 38-35.
Barring a major miracle that was the ball-game. But, wait, the Raiders have found a game changer in 5th Round draft choice, Denarius Moore. With one final heave. as time ran out, Jason Campbell gave his young play maker a chance to do just that and he nearly made a classic Raider catch that would instantly ranked in the top 10 off All-Time. Unfortunately for Oakland, that was it.
With all the talk about the 35 points scored by Buffalo in the second half and all of the talk about costly penalties prolonging Buffalo drives. It came down to three plays. If Oakland makes them, they win. If they don't, which they didn't they lose.
I have to say that I think next week's game against the Jets will be an absolute rumble. The best news to come out of yesterday's loss is that that there were no major injuries and hopefully some of the injured bodies will start coming back for Oakland.
Go Raiders!
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Damn.... Sad picture Rich....
(that’s when the WR batted it down right?) Could’ve sealed the game.
The RaiderLaker
That is what this game was about for me:
On the road, in a hostile environment and playing a hot team, you have to make more plays. There should have been two picks and could have been three.
Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...
- J Kerouac
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 19, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
one positive
is that the db’s seem to be gettining into the Woodson mentality of making or trying to make plays on the ball, Mcclain look great dropping back into the middle in coverage, two weeks in a row that he nearly had int’s. overall the dfensive backs had more opportunities to make plays on the ball than i’ve seen out of them for a long time. I’ll leave the deep disection to more adept posters, but it did seem they playing the ball more.
by idahoaklandraider on Sep 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions
And they are very physical:
Their physicality is what can disrupt the timing of the qb and lead to more sacks. Unfortunately, once the run was established and the Raiders got spread out, they were pretty easy to dissect.
Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...
- J Kerouac
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 19, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
it seems like they are physical
During the receivers route, which is drawing flags on us, but I haven’t really seen them be physical at the line yet. Most of fitz passes were 5-8 yarders with a high ass comp.% and our guys were giving hella cushion instead of jamming and pressing these guys and making both the receivers and qb work for there completions. Us playing less physical off the line resulted in a very easy 2nd half of pitch and catch for buff. The league gives you 5 yards to disrupt and play tough so we might as well use it instead of not at all.
by rodeosnake12 on Sep 19, 2011 10:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
One Note Here Is Playing Zome Much Of The Time....That's new To Us...
It will take time to gel and we didn’t have the off season to prepare….So a work in progress but we are already seeing some good as now ranked tied at #10 Int’s n #12 Sacks….
YES
Woodson is working on these guys, see how many picks they ALMOST had in week 1 and 2?
He’s only coached them for 2 months now, but you can see they are starting to make it happen.
When this team hits the mid season stride they will be on FIRE!!!
Bring it on, F THE JETSSS!!!!
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by David Rockwood on Sep 19, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point on Woodson and him teaching them to pull the trigger.
Perhaps part of the problem is the new training and our DBs were awkward with Woodson’s new scheme. It is true they at least looked more aggressive. Perhaps they should add to the training some pass-catching exercises.
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 19, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point.
I was disgusted at the blown coverages and almost picks but I was happy that our guys are putting themselves in a position to make plays. They just have to do better. I will chalk this up to growing pains / learning curve.
1 - 3 Plays
I posted this yesterday. The Raiders last year and this year are at a point where one to three plays per game either wins or loses most games.
Cant cry over spilled milk
Thank god it early in the season and can get some of this stuff fixed. Thank god we didnt lose anyone serious. Thought the offense carried the team yesterday. Defense came soo close to ending the game. 2 missed int’s and CJ’s penalties. 1-1, tied in the division, and were just going to get better as a team. The only thing I have gripes about is our little Nicky. I dont think he makes it through next week on the team. Id rather have the Saints ex-safety than Nicky. Id rather have the kid CB Moore starting. With Ford and TJ looking for touches, Nicky is very expendable right now!
imho
nick should be inactive after 1 of these 3 guys is healthy,DHB.Ford,Murphy, and cut after 2 of these 4 guys are healthy,DHB.Ford,Murphy,and Boss.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 19, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Also remember the Bills offensive talent level
Starting QB: 7th round pick from a D-IAA Ivy league school making his first ever opening day start
Starting RB: Undrafted free agent from a D-III college who was an Arena League pickup
- WR: 7th round pick from a continually underperforming I-A program
- WR: Undrafted free agent from a decent D-IAA program
- WR: Undrafted free agent from a good D-I program but sparsely used in college
Starting TE: 4th round pick who has never been able to handle a roster spot, was picked up days before the opener off the waiver wire and had one career reception before this season
The core of the Bills offense is entirely filled with players that no one ever thought were any good and because of that pretty much every pundit simply discounted them before they ever stepped on the field. Now they lead the league in points scored, point differential, offensive touchdowns scored and rushing yardage.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Give it up to their coaching. This team may turn it around. They are the Chiefs of last year.(sucky talent?)
They beat us with a superb fast dink and dunk pass offensive scheme. Negated our passrush as Seymour himself said. Bad loss nonetheless.
The RaiderLaker
Fitz has a good quick release. I like quick release QB's. The main reason Gradkowski was a good backup but we didn't renew him this year.
Grads is also a no namer but did good at times for us in a non-dink and dunk offense. we just didn’t adjust to your scheme, we didn’t gameplan for it, hence you barely beat us. (didn’t notice you were a Bills fan)
The RaiderLaker
One of the things that we noticed in the KC game was that the Chiefs look like they gameplanned for the 2010 Bills. It appeared that they never took into account the personnel changes from 2010 to 2011 and didn’t realize just how dramatically those changes would affect certain portions of the game. KC could have contained Kyle Williams with their running game. They had no answer for the combination of Williams and Dareus and their run game was dead from the get-go. The Raiders did a much better job than the Chiefs did breaking down the Bills defensive schemes, particularly using McFadden as a receiver. McFadden the runner was more or less contained, particularly in the second half. McFadden the receiver roasted the Bills defense alive.
What the Raiders did NOT do was adjust themselves to the Bills’ offensive adjustments at halftime. You guys were having a corner getting reamed and didn’t give him the support up top to help. You needed to do something to help Chris Johnson do his job and instead your coaching staff let Fitzpatrick and Stevie Johnson run him ragged. That was a very costly mistake. When you have a defensive back who is consistently getting his head handed to him you either mix up the coverage assignments, give him a safety to help out or get him off the field.
I have a lot of confidence that someday Hue Jackson is going to become a decent coach in this league but yesterday he let Chan Gailey do what he needed to do to win. If he continues to do that and doesn’t learn from it, he won’t last long as a head coach.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Well I actually pin it on our DC. Hue is a OCHC because that is his backround.
Hue does not have a defensive coach backround.
The RaiderLaker
Chuck didn't blow coverages drop int's miss tackles and have dumb penalties
We got no pass rush and couldn’t stop the run that in turn opened up the passing games. It begins with stopping the run and our players missed tackles
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
by Ozraider on Sep 19, 2011 4:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
said it before, ill say it again
they’re all to blame. chuck wasn’t pulling the right switches, the players were abysmal, and despite hue not being a defensive coach, he has to stick his fucking head in the huddle and right the ship. total systemic failure. a collapse like that can’t happen otherwise.
I am stil juiced as fuck for the home opener, this is still the best team.we’ve had in 8 years. im a raider fan goddamit
but if nick miller goes back to get the kickoff I may go postal
by lchristmas on Sep 19, 2011 5:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Calvert, you make good observations. In the pre-season we had a rookie cornerback, (DVD)
also get worked like CJ did yesterday. The coaches seemed to do nothing to help him out either, just let him keep getting beat one on one, his confidence is probably totally messed up now.
by Oceanside Raider on Sep 19, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
This was one crappy way to lose
But certain areas of strength and weakness were reinforced.
Many of us were concerned about the secondary and linebackers all off season. Didn’t seem like the team did enough to address these needs in the short term, as there was never a corner brought in with starting experience (aside from a way past prime Sheppard). I think the Safety situation will be fine, but the corners we have aren’t enough to get it done against a good passing team (NE & SD will be salivating over this tape).
Our linebackers were nowhere in the second half. If Groves isn’t going to be blitzing, and a team is passing all over the field, there really isn’t much he can do. Our franchize player Wimbley was way out of position on runs to his side. We was constantly crashing the center of the field and giving up outside containment. We still need outside linebackers who can cover and play the position in a 4-3 instead of just converting ends and hoping for the best.
Brensnahan’s defenses have always given up leads. Look at his run in his first stint, we always played soft with a lead, and in 2001, his weak defenses led to us playing in NE instead of Oakland on the fateful Tuck game.
Gotta love the depth at receiver now that we’ve seen what Hagen & Moore can do. Danarius Moore seems to be what we’ve been looking for at a starting wide out who is physical and can stretch the field. Seems to be more consistent at coming down with the ball than Murphy, and hopefully will prove to be more consistant. Once Jacoby Ford is back that gives us 2 legit playmakers at receiver. I like what Hagen brings in consistancy and route running, 2 areas Schielins was supposed to be strong at, but can’t make it onto the field.
Nick Miller’s performance was embarrassing yesterday…I don’t think any of his returns even made it back to the 20. It was almost a benefit when Hue got the 15 yard penalty and we got a touchback as one of our better starting positions after a kickoff.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
We should of just dropped all 11 into coverage on thar 4 and 1 play
they were trying to do quick passes anyways. God this ruined my week
With momentum back on Buffalo’s side, Fitzgerald threw a pass directly into Tyvon Branch’s hands that went through them and into the hands of his tight end Scott Chandler.
His name is Fitzpatrick, which you got right later in the piece.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
all in all
painful loss, but if we can somehow rally past the Jets next Sunday, all is forgiven!
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
CAN WE MOVE ON ALREADY
this negativity shit feeds itself…..if you want to survive in the nfl you have to have AMNESIA wether its play by play, or game by game……WHO REALLY CARES ANYMORE…we can spend all this time and energy slicing up what woulda coulda or shoulda happened BUT IT DIDN’’t and we can have the same conversation about this game ten years from now because it will be still in the same place we left it, THE PAST…..AMNESIA people. Have faith and move on……Lets talk about the JETS home opener, this “other” game is over. LETS hear about matchups, lets hear about some stregnths we have against the JETS and how we can utilize them for a Win at home this sunday…..and for god sakes, all of you babies need to stop whining!!!! ITS F***ing week 2 already, we have 14 more games, 14 people!!
indeed
most of the league is 1-1 right now…
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Sep 19, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
imagine how it feels to be a Raven fan, lol
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and f*ck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get f*cked... Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in **** and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits"
– George Carlin
by AlDavis4Prez on Sep 19, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
yes lets talk jets
how are you doing?
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengel
i cant spell a nosebleed
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We are going to totally demolish you guys and stuff a hot dog down Mark's throat.
I hear you guys lost Mangold?
The RaiderLaker
good luck with that one
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengel
i cant spell a nosebleed
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Welcome to Silver and Black Pride
Maybe you should start a fanpost where we could ask you questions about the Jets and discuss our matchup. As you can know we just had a heartbreaking loss yesterday so emotions are running a bit high. Anyhows, we’d love to hear from you about your team’s strengths and weaknesses. Thanks for stopping by.
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
We Go Strength -vs- Strength In This match-Up:
Your weak “O” vs our weak “D”…
Our strong “O” vs your strong “D”….
When you have the ball:
I would give our “DL” the edge against your “OL”…
I give our “D” the edge against your run…
So if we can control your ground game your passing shouldn’t hurt us much and maybe we can generate some "TO"s….
When we have that “Pig”…
Running may be difficult and if we can’t establish the run our passing game may be very suspect….So far your “D” has not been tested by a top “O” so I’m hoping it’s not as tough as the #’s suggest…We should be able to get our passing attack established to the "RB"s n "TE"s if your “D” has to bite in our running…
Your thoughts!!!
If we were playing baseball with there 162 games then I can forget easier
But since we only play 16 games, games like these mean more
Thank you!!! lets move on... even the players feel like shit... Seymour just said they have to move
because “when ever you lose, you give up a formula on how to beat them…” I want to beat the Jets. So lets get ready for Dirty Sanchez and the run first D…
Can anyone tell me why Nick Miller is still here???
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
It was a tough loss but if we can beat the Jets next week
By winning a game we probably would usually put down as a loss we will be back on track and I honestly think the Jets are beatable.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
by Ozraider on Sep 19, 2011 2:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
im my own humbled opion....Jets are one of the most overrated teams ever... EVER!!!
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
It's our home opener as well so they should be pumped
In a way this could be an important loss for the development of the team as well, they obviously eased off in the second half and let the Bills dictate the crowd got into it and that was it. We are a great attacking d but not a good backfoot defense so when the other teams get some momentum we struggle to cease it back. Ita going to be a long week in the film room but I think we will learn A LOT from it and leave us in good stead for the rest of the season.
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
by Ozraider on Sep 19, 2011 3:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
if, if we dont play like we did at buffalo,if really lets be real were gonna be 1-3 after the pats game
IF WE CONTINUE TO PLAY LIKE WE DID IN BUFFALO!
by sports with steve on Sep 19, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Kickoff returns
Why is nick miller even allowed to touch the ball??? Terrible decision-making skill and he is not even in the least bit elusive. Taiwan jones anyone?
Foreal I can run a 4.5 40 and for damn sure can make ppl miss better than this clown n miller
I wonder if the raiders will sign me hahaha Jk
by 209raider on Sep 19, 2011 3:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Isnt Jones hurt? But if he isnt Im with you on this, why the hell isnt he returning them, hes a shifty playmaker in the works unlike this chump Miller who got overhyped and hasnt done a damn thing.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Sep 19, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Jones played yesterday
He ran a reverse. He could return punts if he shows the hands for it.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
he could be a better kr than miller
if he had frying pans for hands and had to clap the ball into submission before starting to run
by lchristmas on Sep 19, 2011 5:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
SMACK THE JETS!!!!!!!!!
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Ford and Moore
All I can say is that I cant wait to see a healthy Jacoby Ford and a more seasoned Denarius Moore streak down the field together.
Hopefully we get good news about boss, ford, and dhb. Yes dhb. But the raiders need as much help on d as they can. Cut miller and activate sterling, although Sanchez won’t pick us apart…. Or will he??? Dline needs to turn up the heat
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 19, 2011 7:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No way the jets are shutting the raiders out!! Campbell needs to be careful. Do any of u ladies think, if healthy, ford can have a big day matched up against revis? I say yeah use the speed like he did to flowers. Although flowers ain’t on revis’ level
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 19, 2011 7:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I see tj having an impact this game. Also the jets run game is overrated our run d sucks.
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 19, 2011 7:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The wide receivers we had out there yesterday are better than the "starters",
the offense played well enough to win. We need to trade a couple of wide outs for a decent cornerback. In my opinion CJ cost us that game with his multiple penalties, there has to be a better option out there somewhere. Otherwise we are going to see this every week, the other team is just going to put there best receiver on CJ and he is going to get burned or get a PI call every time they throw the ball in his direction.
by Oceanside Raider on Sep 19, 2011 7:40 PM PDT reply actions
DVD
What’s up with DVD? I thought I saw him limp off the field yesterday. At this point I have to ask can DVD make progress and take CJ’s place this year? I’m just clutching at straws here…
Aww shit really? I was just talking him up below.... Damn... No wonder he didn't play a lot yesterday.
Main reason why CJ probably kept fucking up is because he was winded as fuck. Never saw when DVD left though.
The RaiderLaker
Buffalo Now Ranks very High On "O" And Made Our "D" Look Weak In One Half...
This is where we stand by the #’s at the moment…I will take the improvement and acknowledge the regressions while I wait to see improvement in those areas….
“D”-#24
Pass-#22
Rush-#27
Sacks-#12 Tie
Scoring-#27 Tie
Int’s #10 Tie
“O”-#12
Pass-#23
Rush-#4
Scoring-#8
“OL”-#3
Raiders -vs- Jets Match-Ups: "D"-vs-"O" -n- "O"-vs-"D"
Raiders……………………………..Jets
"D"-#24………………………………“O”-#21
Pass-#22………………………….Passing-#13
Rush-#27…………………………Rushing-#28
Scoring-#27 Tie………………..Scoring-#7
Sacks-#12 Tie…………………..“OL”-#21
Int’s #10 Tie
"O"-#12…………………………….“D”-#8
Pass-#23…………………………Pass-#11
Rush-#4…………………………..Rush-#9
"OL"-#3…………………………….Sacks-#6 Tie
Scoring-#8……………………….Scoring-#3
…………………………………………Int’s_#1
A Look At The Jets’ “O”…
Third Down Efficiency 3/12 – 25%
Total Net Yards 283
Net Yards Rushing 101
Total Rushing Plays 32
Average Gain per Rushing Play 3.2
Net Yards Passing 182
Time of Possession 33:23
2 “TD” n 2 Int’s
“D”…
Net Yards Rushing 112
Total Rushing Plays 27
Average Gain per Rushing Play 4.1
Pass Comp-Att-Int 11 – 25 – 4
Team Leaders
NEW YORK JETS
Passing Cmp Att Yds TDs
Mark Sanchez 43 68 517 4
Rushing Car Yds Avg TDs
Shonn Greene 26 75 2.9 1
Mark Sanchez 4 32 8 0
Receiving Rec Yds Avg TDs
Dustin Keller 11 162 14.7 2
Santonio Holmes 9 112 12.4 1
Offensive Comparison: Jets-Raiders
Total Yards Per Game
321.5-371.5
Passing Yards Per Game
248.5- 211.0
Rush Yards Per Game
73.0-160.5
Points Per Game
29.5-29.0
Third Down Conversion %
34.6- 50.0
Time of Possession
1785.0-1854.0
Defensive Comparison
Total Yards Per Game Allowed
296.5-395.5
Passing Yards Per Game Allowed
208.5-268.0
Rush Yards Per Game Allowed
88.0-127.5
Points Per Game Allowed
13.5-29.0
Third Down Conversion % Allowed
29.2-41.7
we had several chances to ice this one if you really break it down, but you isolated three key times
all in the fourth if I’m not mistaken too. That one hurt. We can’t see one aspect of our game improve without another going to complete shit? ugh.
I just don’t have a lot of hope for our defense, and these games coming up could get ugly.
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The defense must be on loan from the Golden State Warriors.
Chris Johnson is the name of three NFL players.
I guess we must be lucky to have “The Good One”.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Sep 19, 2011 10:55 PM PDT reply actions
My thoughts on the game
1. Cut Nick Miller
2. Cut Nick Miller
3. Cut Nick Miller
Now that I got that out off my chest. I can’t figure out why this guy is still on the team. His decisions hurt the Raiders in week 1 but his kick returning in week 2 was like a knife in the chest every time he touched the ball. He would catch it atleast 6 yeards deeo (a free ticket to the 20) and get tackled at the 10 +/- a few yards, thats a net loss of atleast ten yards every time he touched the ball. Then on one play he fielded it four yards deep with a running start and fell untouched at like the 7. I get that Ford was out, but isn’t there anything better on the team? Atleast on the last kickoff, Cartwright was there to down it.
4. Every time the Raiders had a stop in the second half, there was a penalty on them to sustain the drive. Literally. Barring the last drive when Buffalo converted two fourth downs, they were aided by penalties.
5. DMC got no such love. On the drive after he fumbled in the second half, the Raiders went three and out. Why was it not called defensive holding or PI on the pass play to him on third down? the defender was all over him and was clearly pulling on his arm that was
reaching for the ball. Text book pass intereference.
6. The non-reviewed TD. The guy was clearly down at the one. Giving him the one is generous, it might have been the one and a half yard line. Why no review? Something
about that play is still making me want to go into beast mode and wreck something. Obviously Hue didn’t understand either, he threw the challenge flag and got a penalty for it. To be quite honest getting the penalty didn’t hurt us much, the kick went out of the endzone so Nick Miller didn’t get a chance to run out to the three yard line and down the ball.
7. The final play. Sure it may have been intercepted, but our guy came away with the ball in the endzone before either of the two hit the ground. It looked to me that by the time they hit the ground, Moore had the ball and the CB was trying to get it back. Like Seymore said, “we are the Raiders, we are not going to get that call”.
8. The officials from that game should be fined for sucking their job.
9. Routt is doing well as a No 1 corner. Chris Johnson is SHIT. He was shit last year too, that’s why they put Routt back as the number 2 corner. Johnson was used and abused all damn day by a guy with a hurt hamstring. He would literally burn the hell out of Johnson then barely be able to walk back to the huddle, then do it all again. We never should have let Asomugha go, not for the “three or four good players we could use his salary on”. Who did we get with that money? Asomugha plays this game and we win, and likely win big.
10. Because Fitzpatrick was able to consistenly get the ball out so fast for completions, our brutal pass rush was ineffective. We have no quality corners behind Routt. Period.
The when we had to respect the pass, they gashed the hell out of the D with the run.
1-8 -n- #10 Is Where We Fully Agree...#9.5 Though I Take Exception With...
Half of #9 Is good but as far as Namndi we lost with him in similar fashion last season…Only than it was Routt n Huff getting burned for those big plays….
Dude
seriously? CJ sucks, you think dvd or chekwa could have done better? he messed up, its not entirely his fault either. To blame one person after one game is ridiculous, To say CJ is shitty is worse, do you know how hard it is to play man 2 man? especially if your going against someone like Steve, Cj had no help and your saying he did shit? You try watch steve or try to put these rookies on them and im sure the score wouldn’t even have been close, Why dont you blame DMAC for fumbling? but oh it was a penalty for him thats why, seriously its 1 game!!, we should have won, but like hue said the raiders win or lose as a team. I just hate when people say oh he sucks & should be cut, but when they play good its like omg he is a beast i never doubted them
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 20, 2011 2:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually i have seen DVD cover better than CJ. DVD just gives up catches because he doesn't turn his head around to locate the ball.
He has fluid movements, he will/may be a poor man’s Nnamdi at his best right now, he just makes rookie mistakes and doesn’t locate the ball. When I saw him play I realized how close he kept with the WR and came away impressed. It’s just that Edwards and Fitzgerald made him look bad with spectacular catches.
Mark my words, DVD will develope in to a better corner than CJ, he may be better right now, since all CJ does is draw flags and give up catches.
The RaiderLaker
+1
DVD can cover, he just needs to, as you said locate the ball.With experience and Woodson, i think it wont take too long before hes better than CJ.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 20, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
DVD?
Are you insane? He is better than CJ? All your saying is his fluid movements and hips and all the skills he has. DVD doesn’t locate the ball and he gets beat on the inside moves, Look at the saints game with DVD. His time to prove himself, 1v1 vs henderson or mecheam and he is getting toyed around. He hasn’t have enough reps to even keep up with the 1’s so how can you say hell do better then CJ? If DVD presses coverage’s he is to small to go up with guys like Calvin Johnson. What i mean by small is he will get pushed around easily, With no reps against 1’s other than pre-season his technique is probably were you expect a rookie to be. DVD will develop to be a corner but for now he better at the 3rd string corner, To put all the pressure on a rookie like him to watch star WR’s, Your just asking for a free TD. You already know the opposing QB is going to go for him all day long.
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 20, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I tend to let the fumble go under the radar when he scored two touch downs and is chewing up yards. True the DMC fumble hurt, but that was one incident that they got points off., they were scoring off Johnsons’ mistakes all day, well, all day in the second half.
For the record, I have never been on the Chris Johnson band wagon. I never said to cut him, I just think that he is better as a third cornerback. But I have been saying cut Nick Miller since last year, and it’s impossible to backtrack on my statements when he has great games, because he never has any.
I am with you
about the whole nick miller thing, i have tried to back this guy up since he was on this team, But im starting to think that he is just not ready for prime time. But i still believe he can be good for us lol, even though most may say he should be cut. To say one mistake is less than the other is absurd, If we scored on that drive it would have been 4 possessions of bills scoring instead of 5 and we would have won the game. Same goes with CJ’s incident, take one of his mistakes away and we win the game. CJ has have very good games, we are going to see how he handles the jets, im sure the whole defense and offense is ready to let off some steam.
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 20, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
as far as the nick miller thing goes
I used this site as a football lifeline while I was in Iraq. The whole preseason of 2009 I heard you guys building this dude up as the surprise of training camp, then he got that fractured shin and missed all of 2009. I figured the coaches had to have seen something in him to keep him around. Then 2010 came and I was like a kid in a candy store waiting to see Oakland’s best kept secret…..I am still waiting. I never really want any players dream to come to an end. But am i selfish enough as a fan to support him getting cut and picking up a better player? Absolutely.
As far as McFadden’s fumble. You are absolutely correct that if he does not fumble, there is a good chance that Oakland likely wins. So therefore, I cannot fully put this loss on CJ or the defense. But watching a hobbled Stevie Johnson destroy him was certainly a humbling experience. Did they expose a giant hole in the Oaktown D or is this really more of an aberation? Watching Oakland fall apart against the Bills again was digusting. This team can play with anyone, and I think this could be a great season.
+1
That Bills lost is almost right behind the snow game. It has that feeling of disgust. Makes things more worst, that game was basically the highlight of the week, even though Cowboys had a comeback win and Redskins. But hey NFL loves to rub stuff like that to the raiders.
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 20, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
There is an awful lot more wrong than a single play.
Any O-line that can compete with / disrupt our D-line is going to render our D ineffective.
Dude
seriously? CJ sucks, you think dvd or chekwa could have done better? he messed up, its not entirely his fault either. To blame one person after one game is ridiculous, To say CJ is shitty is worse, do you know how hard it is to play man 2 man? especially if your going against someone like Steve, Cj had no help and your saying he did shit? You try watch steve or try to put these rookies on them and im sure the score wouldn’t even have been close, Why dont you blame DMAC for fumbling? but oh it was a penalty for him thats why, seriously its 1 game!!, we should have won, but like hue said the raiders win or lose as a team. I just hate when people say oh he sucks & should be cut, but when they play good its like omg he is a beast i never doubted them
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 20, 2011 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Oops PantyRaider this post is for Scrively
my bad
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 20, 2011 2:33 AM PDT up reply actions
No Problem Bro....But I Think You Could Apply That To Little Miller...He Sucks!!...LoL!!
2 weeks in a row no matter how well he played seasons past…He has lost something in his game…
+1
it was a team loss, mostly on the D, but it was not one players fault we lost, the D played horrible together.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 20, 2011 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
+2
Win as one Lose as one
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 20, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
True enough
CJ CAN play better, and that’s probably why he’s taking so much abuse. Because people know he’s better than what he showed.
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last week Raiders made some nice defensive plays and also had some bonehead defensive plays. Raiders came within 27 seconds of a win against a pretty good offense at their stadium. Stevie Jhonson did the same thing to the steelers last year. He is no slouch. We may not have heard of to much on the west coast but he is a top notch reciever.
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