Jets' gameplan is all too obvious
After comparing the elements, it becomes obvious what the Jet's will attempt against the Raiders.
Oakland has a top notch ground game (currently ranked 4th); NYJ has a top notch Rush Defenses - also ranked 4th. Our rush offense and their rush defense basically neutralize and there is no clear advantage.
Oakland's passing game has taken off. Jason Campbell is now stepping into his throws and revealing deep ball strength and accuracy (!). The rookie Denarius Moore and FA Derek Hagan came out of nowhere to complement Campbell and together ignite the Raiders' passing attack. On the other side, the Jets have two of the best Cornerbacks in the game: D. Revis and A. Cromartie and a generally above average Pass Defense. So, this too is basically a stalemate after taking into account the Jet's DL and our OL.
STs are also a push. Jano has an ailing left foot which makes his opponent, N. Folk, his equal. Cromartie is retuning well but we will answer with Jones or Moore. No punter is better than Lechler which offsets (balances) our weakness thus far returning punts. STs are therefore a draw.
The NYJ's rushing attack is not impressive. It currently ranks 28th. Tomlinson has rushed for 24 yards this season and Shonn Greene for only 75 yds; both RBs average less than 3 yds/ carry. On the other side, Oakland's rush defense, like always, is horrid and (ranking 29th in the NFL two years in a row) now resumes its accustomed place - ranking 27th among the dogs and lice of the league. With the loss of NYJ's stud Center, N. Mangold (replaced by one Collin Baxter) the Raiders rush defense and the Jet's rush offense neutralize each other and this like all that's come before is a wash.
Now we come to the obvious elemental matchup: The Raiders Passing Defense vs. The Jet's Passing Offense. First off, Sanchez is not hitting any of his WRs with great frequency except for Santonio Holmes who has 9 catches (cf. Burress w/4 and Mason w/4). But, Sanchez loves to throw to his TEs especially to Dustin Keller who has 11 receptions and 2 TDs.The Raiders may be able to neutralize Holmes with Routt and Plaxico with either CJ or DVD (but certainly not with Porter). What sways the balance (on paper) is the TE matchups against our Safeties and, most critically, our LBs. McClain has demonstrated ability (when he's not off tilting at windmills) to defend the pass but with a two TE set that brings the LBs closer to the line (for the non-existent Jet's rushing threat) and Groves, Wimbley, Branch and Huff - with their collective pass defense skills, one must objectively conclude that we will get worked in the middle with mid-range passes all afternoon.
Conclusion: the Raiders DL must penetrate the weakened NYJ's OL and put constant unremitting pressure on Sanchez. Doing this gives the Raiders a decent chance at victory, failing this guarantees defeat.
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This game like you said will come down to TE and Linebacker play
Jets probaly will go heavy screen against our aggressive defense. JC needs to be onpoint with reading thier D. Same with O line with blitz pickup. This is a very winnable game that will be a confidence booster, Hell Peter King liked what he saw last week and picked us over the Jets. The word is getting around that we are no W’s on the oppsoing team calender , I like the heart so far hope we are consistent.
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+1
I voted for the Corner play. When they disrupt the reciever or make a play on the ball we either force a down, get the ball back, or P.I. .But your right on in this game, its TE vs LB. I thought about this after the Bills game. Remember Preseason…and we saw DE Shaunessy, while in a 4-3, drop back into coverage and get a pick? Remember how much push the 3 man front was getting? Thats the package we needed to utilize more in pass coverage. Let him and DE Scott chase some TE’s. Games like this one against the Jets make me miss SS Mike Mitchell more. He that guy, That LB/SS/CB hybrid thats missing right now. He’s that extra Nickle LB. Our present day Assassin in the secondary.
Damn, the more I think about the matchups the more I believe we will lose.
Their D is too legit. We should’ve taken Cro from them. CJ just sucks. Stupid Cro. Closer to the SB my ass. Same would’ve happened here if he came.
:P
The RaiderLaker
Cromartie is not good and is not much better than CJ in coverage
Cromartie had 2 picks off of the worst starting qb in the league Luke McCown. Big whoop. They will surprise us.
by duballers23 on Sep 23, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Cromartie gets beat just as much as CJ
Not worth 10 million a year.
by duballers23 on Sep 23, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't watch the Jets much at all, but everytime I do, Cromartie gets beat quite a bit. If I'm not mistaken, the Romo roasted him a few times.
by duballers23 on Sep 24, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Only thing we need to worry about are penalties...
Raiders were doing everything right in last week’s first half. Yes, the gave up a few BIG RUNS in the second, but if they would have been a little more “disciplined”, the game would have been a W. I truly believe the raiders are two consecutive victories away from becoming a legitmate SB contender (though this doesnt reflect my thoughts on what the NFL’s intentions are on the team). If they can irk out a win tomorrow, and one next week, heads will turn!
And with that being said, FK the NFL.
by autumn_fart on Sep 24, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Let us hope that the outcome is like these games
2nd one is great too
The last play in the 2nd link, the winning TD to Jett … Gannon’s ability to avoid the sack to thread the needle to throw the TD like he did … was friggin incredible. That whole drive, in fact, seemed like he was pressured on every play … somehow, incredibly, he never took a sack.
Jet’s must’ve flown home after that game w/ a VERY similar feeling to the one that the Raiders flew home with this week. They had a 20-3 lead in the game, and blew it by giving up a long drive for a TD w/seconds left to play.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
gotta be the defensive line, since it's the best matchup
though all of the above would be my vote. If there’s any team you just want to kick their asses it’s the NYJ. Fuck ‘em and fat boy Rex. I’d want to shut him up every second of every game, and before and after.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
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The key to this game is our TE's
I believe our line will bully the Jets D-line and the LB’s must pay attention to McFadden. Bres get’s reprieve this week.
I will never recover from Al Davis saying, "I should never have fired Art Shell"
For me it is down to the play of our corners
CJ was pathetic last week and this week he had a groin issue. DVD is not available as well.
Does that mean Joey Porter will be playing more because he is bad, many of us thought (hoped) he would be cut before the season started. Seriously we have to be looking at available players for the secondary our guys are scary bad.
by Oceanside Raider on Sep 24, 2011 1:25 AM PDT reply actions
CJ's had that groin problem awhile, played hurt last week ... so that's to his credit on the other side of his ledger sheet
If DVD isn’t going to play, things begin to look dismal. 10 1/2 men against 11 is hard to overcome.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 24, 2011 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Son's I have a strange feeling we are going to live or die by our DB play this week...
Sanchez has been off, which means opportunities for picks are there. If our LB’s can tackle and our DL offers pressure we have a real shot at winning. 3 receiver set running Revis away from the play. Routes to J-Camps strengths and we can beat the Jets. Actually, I would start the game in the Air, to let them know you had better not stack the Box…lol The Jets can be beat and we are physical enough to do it. Now, you made plenty of valid points and I agree…We must execute and play our best to win, that is that hand we are dealt, we are not a team that can have a off day and still win games. Go Raiders!!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 24, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
2ndary play is critical, yes ...
And other than Routt, lets face it … they’re not great.
This is why, to me, it’s really down to the DL. Our 2ndary isn’t good enough to neutralize Holmes, Burriss, Mason, and Keller all game long, there’s really not a chance of that happening.
So from where I sit, yes, our DB play is key, but even more key is to make it so their play ISN’T so key. Ya feel me on that?
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
GOOD NEWS
For those who like to get fired up about these sorts of things…
WoW ... there's a lotta consensus there
I can’t believe how many games there are this week with complete unanimity across the picks.
10 of the 16 games, EVERYONE picks the same team to win? I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many ‘lock’ games in that chart, which I check out most weeks.
I’m amazed not one person thinks Houston can beat NO, and not one picks the Vikes to pull off an upset at home against the upstart Lions, when they’ve traditionally owned them at home. Also I’d have thought one or two would pick the Bills for an upset, and one or two would believe Denver could upset the Titans (not that I want to see that).
Jets/Raiders is one of the more divided games … given as many of the other games they’ve picked as locks, I’d have expected them to all jump on the Jets bandwagon as well.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
off topic but
watching the Terps game?
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 24, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
UGH
I just stopped drinking from that disgusting terrible horrible pathetic excuse for a football game. Randy Edsall is a moron of a coach who hasn’t done a GD thing with this team. I made it out to the game last week which was embarrassing, but nothing nearly as bad as this.
NOW YOU SEE WHY I AM A PESSIMIST!
UGH
F-ing Temple. F-ing Jack Daniels. Let’s go Raidaaaaahs
Did you know Bill Callahan is there OL coach?
Hopefully we can give him a proper homecoming
Um
Did you see who your receivers went against the first 2 weeks? No disrespect but your receivers are completely overmatched by our secondary. Moore is completely out of the game thanks to Revis and do you really think Darius Heyward Bey is better than Cromartie. There is no receiver in the league thats a better matchup for Cro.
michael28102 has spoken
since nfl games are always won on paper, instead of going to the game im going to sit home and wack it to rex ryans wife.
thanks for the hot tip michael28102
by lchristmas on Sep 24, 2011 8:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Yes, I agree. The Great one has spoken.
We are overmatched, It will be epic to see this legendary Revis cover Moore and Kevin Boss and Darren McFadden and our FB Marcel Reece. I can’t wait to see his godly cover skills nullify our whole recieving offense.
The RaiderLaker
Also
Kevin Boss and your two backs are going to be your pass game? Deadly
by michael28102 on Sep 24, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I dont think your fullback and Kevin Boss will win the game
McFadden is great….but more on the ground and we have success against the run
by michael28102 on Sep 24, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
McFadden can beast on screens to
We can send our starting receivers deep and still have McFadden and Reece for screens, Boss underneath, and Hagen over the middle. I’m sure our coaches will get creative and figure out ways to get the guys the ball. You guys will be tough though. That’s for sure.
Obviously you only watch the Jets Michael
McFadden was once in talks to play receiver for us just to keep him on the field.
McFadden is the best in the business at this point, and he’s just gonna put the dot on the exclamation point when he gets 150 all purpose against that D.
By the way we don’t even have to run DMC all game, we have 2 other backs that can spell him and give us similar results.
As a matter of fact if I was Hue the whole first have would be a revolving door at RB. I’d run 90 percent of the time at you just to get that D nice and tired for the second half. We can literally have a fresh RB every single play if we wanted to.
Revis may cover Moore, but that’s one man. We have weapons at every single position on the field. Cromartie might be able to cover DHB, but what happens when we throw that screen pass to DHB? Cromartie sure as shit can’t tackle, so we’ll see how he deals with DHB dropping a shoulder into his facemask. Everytime I see someone try to go heads up with DHB they get walked off the field afterwards.
Marcel Reese and Kevin Boss are more then enough to win the game. Especially when you consider those two are gonna be the lead blockers for our running attack. Personally I don’t think this game is decided in the passing area, I think we’re gonna take it to you’re biggest strength which is the Run. We’re gonna steamroll our way to a victory only passing when we absolutely have to.
By the way I saw the injury report and Mangold is out this week. Do you honestly believe your scab O-Line is going to stop our pass rush? I’m gonna make the boldest statement I can and say Sanchez watches the second half from the training room because he’s out with a concussion.
by TheDudeAbides138 on Sep 24, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
DHB is hard as hell to tackle
he a big,fast, and very strong, he breaks tackles often when we get him the ball in space. so i hope we do that against cromartie.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 24, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I will DHB credit for his willingness to turn it up field...
I hope this kid is ready, he has to catch the ball with is hands, if he can ever run elusive routes and catch he will be a force…I just haven’t seen that yet..honestly…Go Raiders!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 25, 2011 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn, goes to show your RB is only one dimensional. And he sucks. Once you guys get a top RB = SB appearance.
The RaiderLaker
Which is why we have a top 5 pass catching running back of all time....
by michael28102 on Sep 24, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
hahahaha... funny. No man, no.
So you are saying you guys can’t improve anymore? You guys are very elite? Too much ingnorance, not even we do that.
W need a OLB and a CB maybe another young DT/NT too.
You?
The RaiderLaker
I love the inferences you make
You say our running back cant catch passes. I agree. I say thats why we have LT.
Somehow that equals "Were perfect’
I guess raider and raider fans will twist anything to make it seem like a bigger deal. Hotdogs and now this hahah
by michael28102 on Sep 24, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Well to be honest, last I heard of LT was two years ago.
I’m talking highlight plays and positive stuff. I doubt you use him to catch, and I doubt he plays too much to be a factor as you have Shon Greene as your starter.
Just saying you won’t win a SB without a legit RB. At least a top 10 RB. Even top 15?
The RaiderLaker
This whole post is about who is better on paper....
by michael28102 on Sep 24, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
He's right
The only match up Cro loses is against RB’s and Child Support.
This has to be green
Clippers own staples center!!!
by ClipperBEAST on Sep 24, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Except for the part where DHB is bigger, stronger and faster than Cro ...
Pretty certain the game plan when passing will be to stretch the field w/the speedy Moore and DHB, taking Revis and Cro down the field and out of the play, and working the shorter routes w/Boss, Reese, Bush, McFadden, Shillens, and Hagan … all of which can catch and are tough to bring down in the open field.
We have enough legit receiving threats on the field on every play that we can neutralize your corner talent. We may not see any 60yd pass plays on Sunday, but one stud and one good corner (and I don’t even know who your safeties are, so I doubt you have any Polamalu’s backing up these corners) aren’t gonna shut down our passing game completely … mark my words.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Because this raiders offense with all these great receivers is too much for us. We can handle teams like the colts and pats but the raiders….way too much
by michael28102 on Sep 24, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Theres a difference
and it shows up after the game, its called the injury report. I cant wait to see it after this weeks game.
the only thing worse than an arrogant ass is an arrogant ignorant ass
do you understand the difference between “you won’t shut our passing game down completely” and “the raiders are way too much?”
and I guess the way you’ve handled all these great teams is why you were 32-0 in the last 2 years and are working on your 3rd straight SB title, right?
what is it about this blog that attracts every obnoxious douche from the opposing fanbase on a weekly basis? I like to check out the opposing blogs and I don’t see raider fans doing it.
go have another hoagie and buy another velour suit and gold chain at the nutley mall, you swamp dna waste of polluted air
by lchristmas on Sep 24, 2011 9:40 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
You know what
maybe my guys haven’t given you the requisite respect this year, but you’ve been nothing but a petit, difficult, inhospitable prick to my members in every single one of your posts. Kindly eff off.
Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
Archduke of PACOS.
GangGreenNation.com
go fuck yourself "bro"
I have done nothing of the sort until your mouth-breathers came in with their bragging posts devoid of any knowledgeable analysis or respect.
fuck off, in case I wasn’t clear
by lchristmas on Sep 24, 2011 11:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Says the raiders fan claiming Campbell, Heyward Bey, and Moore are the core of the elite passing offense known as the raiders
by michael28102 on Sep 24, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
and I said that where and when?
you are a fucking idiot, even by new jersey standards.
your team might win on sunday, they might not, but on monday you won’t be any closer to that GED
by lchristmas on Sep 24, 2011 2:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Bey? hell no. Replace that with Jacoby Ford or possesion WR Derek Hagan.
We will be elite but not with DHB bottlenecking our offense.
The RaiderLaker
Listen Mr. Bro Namath, you are very mistaken.
We have had the pleasure of blogging with many fans from different teams in a very productive way in which we enhance each others’ knowledge about each others’ respective teams and they have thanked us for sharing such intelligent knowledge. Those fans are successful with us because it is obvious to us that they are not arrogant, not trolling and respectfully wish to share information with us in addition to actually knowing something about our team. Nothing upsets us more than trolls who come to this sight telling us about our team when it is obvious they know nothing about us. Your guys sound hollow in their intentions compared to those other more sincere fans.
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 24, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Right ... I remember how you handled the Pats ...
In your 2nd game against them last season on the road. You handled ’em GOOD, boy.
Not saying our passing attack is in the same league as the Pats, but my point is … freaking EVERYONE who’s not a lineman (and even one who is, Barnes) on this team is can CATCH, and is big, strong, and can be dangerous/tough to take down in the open field. You overlook any of these guys at your own peril.
Sure, your corners can probably handle our primary WR’s pretty well, but they are FAR from the only one’s that can do damage in the passing game. I’m looking for Boss to come out this week with something to prove, and this Defense is going have a fire under their asses in this game, you better believe that.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually it may have been the first, I can't recall offhand
‘Cause I seem to recall you beating them in a later game last season, but don’t remember the order of events.
Point being, this Jets team is far from invincible, and your greatest weakness right now (OL) is going to be facing our greatest strength … #2 team in sacks last year, as you may recall. Despite what they showed last week in teh 2nd half, our D-Line has the talent to dominate a game. If I were you, I’d be praying that you don’t end up playing this game with your backup QB … btw, who is your backup QB, anyways?
I can dig having confidence and talking up your team, but to come over here and talk like we ain’t even the same league, like we suck, and you’re going to come in and roll us in our home opener … all I can say is … I hope your whole team is thinking the same thing. Cause if they are, they’re going to be in for a big surprise.
This is NOT the 2009 Raiders, dudes.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Great point, we lost to the pats
I seem to remember beating them in the playoffs.
If you want to play the history game, I’m pretty sure the last time we saw you we pounded your shell of a team into the ground.
Yeah, things have changed since then. My point exactly.
Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
Archduke of PACOS.
GangGreenNation.com
Exactly ... we're A LOT better than we were at that point in 2009 ...
And particularly w/o Mangold out there … from all I can see … you’re not better.
In 2009 you came in and faced a 2-4 team that had scored a total of 62 points after 6 weeks, and hadn’t scored over 13 points in a game since week 1.
McFadden was out, and Justin ‘Huggy Bear Jr’ Fargas was our starting RB in that game. Our starting QB was JaFatAss Russell, who threw 2 picks and was benched, and we lost 2 more fumbles in the game …
Most importantly, you scored 14 points on two 4 yard drives in the first quarter … the first one gifted to you by a Russell fumble on the 4 on the Raiders first play from scrimmage. Considering we hadn’t broken 13 points for the prior 5 weeks, basically the game was over before it even started.
This team, OTOH, has scored 59 points after two weeks, and is one play away from being 2-0.
Basically, you guys can just go ahead and keep thinking this is gonna be a repeat of 2009 … but I’m here to tell you … THIS team ain’t gonna be going out like that.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Although admittedly, your WR's are considerably better
than they were, your OL is definitely not, esp. for this game. And great receivers aren’t much help if you OL is getting dominated … which they WILL be in this game.
Just the upgrades from JR and Fargas to JC and DMac alone is enough to make this a VERY different ball club from the one you faced in week 7 of 2009.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Our oline is much improved from 09 as well
its like a night and day difference, the same could be said about our receivers.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 24, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely ... our OL was pathetic in 2009
But in their defense, the fact is, at that point, nobody even wanted to friggin play for JaFatAss anymore.
His fumble on the four y.l. on the Raiders FIRST play from scrimmage sucked the life out of the team in this game. This teams situation was THAT fragile at that point … despite having beaten Philly the week before, the fact was our offense had been absolutely PATHETIC to that point in the season, and our #1 pick QB had been showing nothing but pure SUCKAGE since we’d signed him, and had particularly sucky through the first 6 weeks of 2009.
Two series later PurpleDrank proceeded to throw himself a pick that ends up returned to the 4 yard line, and 10 minutes into the game it was 14-0.
The VERY NEXT series, the fucking loser throws ANOTHER pick. Russell turned it over 3 times out of 4 drives in the first quarter in that game.
Basically JaCarcass single-handedly handed that game to the Jets, and ended up benched at the half, never to start another NFL game in his short and pathetic ‘career’. Actually, if he did start another, it was only because Grads was hurt … I know he never re-earned it, that’s for sure.
I suppose in a weird way we should kinda thank the Jets for that game ;)
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
My bad ...
We gave the Fat Man two more chances to start after that game … he lost both, and wiser heads FINALLY prevailed after that …
But the seed was sown in the Jets game when he got benched …
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
And he only threw for 170 yards
In those two games combined lol …
Bottom-line, the 2011 Raiders are SO FAR AWAY from those dark days it’s not even funny.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
you are a strong man to even go back and look at that debacle
I was at the eagles game the week before that gave us a mistaken glimmer of hope. that game daggered the season.
I hope the jets team shares the misplaced cockiness of their fanbase, but I doubt it…
by lchristmas on Sep 24, 2011 12:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I take some sort of perverse pleasure
reliving how absolutely horrible Jamarcus was in 2009 … it makes me feel good seeing how far we’ve come in such a short time since then …
What we have now is not even remotely the same team, even if there’s still a bunch of the same dudes … it’s just completely different now … you know, w/o the cancer on the team.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
people underrate just how detrimental his presence was
not only his presence, but the fact that he kept playing when he clearly didn’t deserve it, and obviously didn’t care. before that philly game I was talking to a former raider who was convinced that there were decent pieces in place and the team could win if they’d just drop the deuce. he was right.
these guys are professionals, but especially on the defensive side of the ball it is hard to motivate when you know that if your offense scores one td its an event and 2 would be a miracle, and if you give up 13 points you lose.
I really hope all these cocknozzles bringing up that game get their comeuppance on sunday. I think its gonna happen. if the game stays close into the second half and we stop their run, the pass rush works and the crowd will be going apeshit… I think sanchez will make some mistakes.
by lchristmas on Sep 24, 2011 3:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Last time you played the West
was the Broncos last year and you had to pull out the win in the last two minutes. We annihilated the Broncos twice last year. Guess anything could happen when you step out of your division. One things for certain, if LT’s gonna have a big week it’ll be this one. LT simply destroyed the Raiders. I usually won’t give it up for any player on another team, we never beat the Chargers once with LT. We’ve beat them every time since he left. I’m sure he’s looking forward to coming here.
AFC West Assassins... Finally, no more Chargers
Last I checked
The Pats are willing and able to stomp the hell out of you.
I know that wasn’t our coach at the beginning of the season begging the rest of the NFL to beat the Pats.
by TheDudeAbides138 on Sep 24, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I guarantee you Cro is just as fast as DHB and definately more athletic
You guys have a poor receiving corps. Not one of your receivers would be a Number 1 on most teams. 150-200 yards for Cambell mostly going to the TE and backs.
No we dont. WTF where did this guy come from? Does he keep up with football in general?
If you had been watching ESPN SpertCenter for highlights for teams around the league you would see an Oakland WR named Denarious Moore get 146 yards on 5 catches and a TD.
You would also notice he has slighlty more yards overall right now in one game as opposed to two games in which Santonio Holmes played.
The RaiderLaker
+1 Jagger. I mentioned above how trolls come over and tell us about our team when they really know nothing about us.
This guy appears to be one of them.
by RaiderPsycho on Sep 24, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I more or less agree ...
Potential starters on a bunch of teams:
Ford, Moore
Good enough to be 3rd or 4th receiver on many teams:
Shillens, Murphy, Hagan
Might not make a lot of teams:
DHB, Miller
I’ve been saying for YEARS that what this team desperately needs is a Johnson, Fitzgerald, T.O. (back in the day when he was a beast) type of receiver.
We are still in need of that type of big strong stud WR atm. Hopefully Moore is going to become that guy, although he’s a bit on the small side to be quite what I’m looking for here. But I think he’s about as big as Jerry Rice and Tim Brown, and we all saw what those guys did in teh NFL, so … Moore may yet turn out to be a rock star receiver for the S&B.
DHB … he was supposed to be that guy for us. We’re obviously all still holding out hope that he’s going to grow into one of those types. From everything that’s reported, dude is really trying/willing to learn/hard working, so … maybe it’ll still happen.
Having a real stud out there amongst our current corps would probably make a bunch of the other receivers look better, too.
So if I’m honest I have to disagree somewhat with my Nation brethren here just on the points of fact mentioned. At this moment, there is certainly a lot of room for improvement in our WR corps. They aren’t exactly scary, like, say, the Green Bay crew … who are almost top-to-bottom bad-asses.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
AFA Cro being as fast as DHB
Now that I think about it, out on the football field he probably is. If it was a track meet, my money would be on DHB though ;)
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the time to prove we can hang with the big boys
I’m glad that the Raiders aren’t the butt of the media’s jokes anymore. That now belongs to the Chiefs
"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson
Unless they end up with that #1 draft pick
and get Luck, then somebody else is going to have be the joke.
Cold part is...
They’ll NEVER get on Kansas City like they got on us all those years. The “media” was essentially fans of other teams venting decades of frustration watching Oakland be one of the most dominant sports organizations EVER until the last near-decade. Glad to see that window is finally closing on them.
Be watching Dustin Keller
I imagine when our rushing O fails (probably right away)and Holmes and Burress get covered well, Sanchez will rely heavily on Keller in both well-covered pass plays and fake rushing attempts.
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Keller DEFINITELY scares me ...
Your whole receiving corps scares me to be honest. I think there’s pretty universal agreement that the key to this game is going to be our D-line vs. your O-Line. And this is a matchup that I think we can win, personally. Our Big Dick is going to be putting your rookie center on his ass all game long, and Sanchez is going to be running for his life all game long, and Wimbley and Shaughnasty are going to be introducing his face to the infield dirt repeatedly.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 24, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I voted for our dline.
If the dline gets consistent pressure, it would make it easier for the rest of our defense. With Mangold out, I’m hoping that this is the game where Sanchez has to account for Dick Seymour and the rest of our line. If our line gets no pressure,Sanchez would have the time in the pocket to target our weak secondary.
"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches
They will have to double Seymour
and that will free up the rest of the line, and if they make the mistake of not doubling Sey, Sanchez will get Dick slapped.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 24, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
True...
I just don’t want to see CJ make another bonehead penalty/play that costs us the game.
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He re aggravated his groin injury in the buffalo game
and the line didnt really help him out, i expect him to be much better vs the jets.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 24, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
The Jets have won all there game with defense. Period end of story. Sanchez has proven time and time again he is NOT an elite QB. Yes they have good receivers but nobody to throw to them. I think the Raiders #1, have got to stay away for stupid penalty’s. #2 Spread the Jets defense out with 4 and 5 wide receivers to make miss matches in there secondary. And most of all play their game, and they will be fine. The Jets are good, but I think we can beat this team.
I Expect To See The Jets In A Very Conservative GamePlan -w- Quick Hitting Plays -n- Rushing..
They have a weakness on their “OL” and know it while facing what could be one of the strongest Pass Rushes in the NFL…They will try to run even when it doesn’t work…Just keep going for that 3.2yds per rush…Than they will dump off to their "RB"s n "TE"s in the short or screens and quick hitting plays to their "WR"s on short to medium routs in order to minimize their “OL” weaknesses…They will than rely upon their “D” to take control of the game while their O" tries to hold the ball and give them some rest….
If we can get our “O” cranked up they will have to play from behind and come out of their conservative GamePlans…That’s when our “DL” will be able to take control of this game…
I think playing tight “B-n-R” Press coverages would be the right thing to do early on…Disrupt their timing routs and force Sanchez to hold that “Pig” a tick or two longer giving our Pass Rush time to get there….This pressure can translate to an errant throw and give our "DB"s opportunities to make plays…
Makes sense because we're coming - even with just our front four - we'll be coming early and hard. Sanchez isn't Fitzpatrick
(who has a computer for a brain and was consistently given that extra “tick”) and delaying the WRs, even a couple of seconds would result in excited reflexive passes with greater chance of going errant and being picked.
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"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 25, 2011 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Son's plus our D Coaching did nothing to change what he saw..
It was a lame coaching performance by the Raiders on the defensive side of the ball.. Point Blank…Go Raiders!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 25, 2011 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Also I Don't Think The Jets' Rush "D" Has been Tested yet Like It Will be This Week!!!
"JC"s Play-Action is very disruptive and we will see how well they do at not biting on it…I think that will be their #1 objective to to stop that run…This can make them vulnerable to the pass if we can get it cranked up…Dump off time to our "RB"s/“FB” n "TE"s off Play Action while mixing in a few deep routs to our speed "WR"s….If we can hit one for the quick score they will come off the run protection and we can kill them underneath….
Interesting to see if we continue to throw the deep one on 1st and 10. It became quite predictable last week - though with good results
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 25, 2011 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions
We need to come out throwing the ball, they expect us to run...I would hope we play
to Jaon’s strengths and just keep moving the chains and score, I would put them on thier heals. I know they are game planning D. McFad..lol I would just change it up, play action, the game will start with them biting on that. Go Raiders!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 25, 2011 6:46 AM PDT reply actions
In the recent past
This strategy has come back to bite us in the ass. That is one thing the coaches and players have talked about repeatedly. Sticking to our game. It’s like we try too hard, when it doesn’t have to be. Although our passing game is improving every week, we just need to focus on hitting them with the good stuff and all that other stuff will fall into place.
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Good point ...
I hope they don’t overthink it, and don’t try to get too much into the trickery game this week.
I wanna see us come out there and hit ’em in the mouth repeatedly on offense on the ground to start the game. Have some confidence in what we know almost always works (aside from the Pitt game last year) … which is feeding the ball to DMac and trying to get him into a groove early.
To be honest, all the 1st down passing last week was driving me batty. I’d rather see us try to pick up 4 or 5 with a run on 1st. It seems nearly automatic these days that DMac picks up 4-5yds minimum every time he touches the ball. And 2nd and 5 is where you can open up the playbook and throw practically anything at the other team you want … it’s a totally unpredictable down/yardage situation for the defense. I really hate to see 2nd and 10, esp. for this team when you’ve got a back that can pick up 4-5 so consistently.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
i think we should run it early also
but with Bush, try and soften them up for mcfadden
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 25, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
and i agree about passing on 1st down
i think Hue is trying to pass to set up the run, instead of running to set up the pass.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 25, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be against a bomb to Moore
to start the game though… if we get the ball first.
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i would prefer they get the ball first
the crowd should be loud, they may not be able to hear, and if we get the ball first and we go 3 and out, turnover the ball, or some how give them good field position, then their O could come out fired up.Just my opinion though, we can win either way.GO RAIDERS!!!!
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 25, 2011 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
some people probably do ...
I sure as hell didn’t. To a real fan who was watching and paying attention it was obvious this team just didn’t care to play for that guy. They didn’t like him personally, had no confidence in him, and knew we couldn’t win w/him at the helm. He seemed to suck the very will to live out of the entire team.
On top of that … was it just me, or did that guy have THE WORST pocket awareness ever? He was constantly getting the ball knocked out of his hands by dudes that it was very obvious he had no clue were even in his vicinity.
In hindsight I wonder if maybe the purpledrank was already affecting his senses back when he was playing for us … like, maybe he was an addict the whole time he was on the team? Seems unlikely he wouldn’t have been drug tested, but … who knows. They got them ‘designer’ steroids, there’s probably undetectable ‘designer’ opiates as well.
Lol at dropping the deuce. Yeah, we finally dropped the fat deuce, and things have been looking up (far from perfect, but looking up) ever since.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 8:09 AM PDT reply actions
that was supposed to be a reply
to lchristmas’ post ‘people underrate how detrimental (#2’s) presence was’.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: We got the Texans/Saints on here in AZ for the AM AFC game ...
And DAMN, man.
It’s really looking like the Texans are fucking for REAL this year.
Our schedule is looking crazy brutal right now, aside from Denver, KC, and the Vikes.
This team REALLY needs to find a win to this game today, cause the next two weeks after are going to be TOUGH.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 11:04 AM PDT reply actions
It's a little bit depressing seeing the Pat's jump out to 21-0 lead
against Buffalo.
I was really hoping they could hang with the Pats … doesn’t speak well for our chances of handling the Pats if the Bills are no match for them.
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey Buffalo just scored finally
That’s good to see …
I got no hard feelings … Go Bills!
If you guys accidentally kinda give Brady a little concussion so he misses next week, I wouldn’t cry about it lol …
by Brett J Valjalo on Sep 25, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow the bills looking like they are ready to upset!
The last TD the pats looked like us last week. Wide open guy in the endzone!
maybe thats their strategy
get down early, wait for the other team to relax, then attack.
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 25, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
There should be a fifth choice.
McClain has been solid at MLB but with his size, intelligence, and ability he needs to make more plays. If he can make several plays today and alot of tackles and I mean tackles shorter than 4 yards down-field he may very likely be the difference in a W or an L. Also pressure on the Tio Tomas is very important as well.
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