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Oakland Raiders Roster Cuts: Ware and Brown Next to Fall

More DBs falling by the wayside for the Raiders. Stevie Brown Jeremy Ware join the new list of ex-Raiders with Walter McFadden and Lito Sheppard. This means that Sterling Moore and Joey Porter are virtual locks to make the roster now.

Ware had shown flashes of good play last season and this preseason, but he has been very inconsistent and certainly can't be counted on. That said, I would much rather have him on this roster than Porter. I guess the Raiders see something in Porter that I have failed to catch. Whatever it is, they didn't see it last year.

Ware was kept over Porter in 2010.

Stevie Brown's cut was also a mild surprise. Brown has had a rough preseason, but he entered this preseason as the main backup free safety with plans to get lots of playing time as Huff slid to nickel corner. That role is now likely going to Jerome "missed tackle" Boyd. Chimdi Chekwa is also now likely in. He is still very much a work in progress at safety.

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Last years crop did not improve

The seemingly undersized Brown was often looking slow and lost in assignments. Ware is the only surprise which just means CC will make it and UDFA Smoores is safe? Great story there!

by samiam2112 on Sep 3, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah

brown didnt look good this year, and i think Ware was cut for Porters STs play.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. Porter blocked a FG last night

had to have a big impact on him making the cut …so far.

He could be the gunner to replace Mr. Eugene.

by rnpljnsn on Sep 3, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not too surprised at Stevie's departure. Like Boyd, wMcFadden and Porter, Brown is there but always late.

I am surprised that Porter made it, must be his intensity and Bodiford-like heart over skill or brains.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

He was also disappointed in the Huff contract:

he thought that he would be the starting FS. I think that he played down to his emotions.

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Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 3, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

sad but true

Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
The sad truth about Raiders cuts, whenever they come . . . they’ll be around if they want them back. Raiders reserves awful in preseason

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

A keen wit Jerry has

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

PRACTICE SQUAD...

Any of this guys deserving of a practice squad spot???

by R8drick on Sep 3, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brown doesnt mean Porter is in

Brown makes room for Boyd
You are overlooking the fact that Chekwa isnt a safety yet. Also, dont overlook Giordano, he has speed which Al loves.

by UglyOne on Sep 3, 2011 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh...Ware?

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.

by Rich Langford on Sep 3, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh... Chekwa and Moore

Not to mention all the FAs out there and the fact that Huff helps the corners. 4-5 corners. Routt, Johnson and DVD are three. Chekwa likely the fourth.

by UglyOne on Sep 3, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

it looks like this right now, but i could change.

Routt,CJ,DVD,Moore,and Porter are the CBs on roster
Huff,Branch,Mitchell,Boyd and Check are the safeties on roster
 5 corners 5 safeties

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did they cut Giordano?

I havent heard that. Giordano used to be considered as possibly the NFLs fastest man. He’s a veteran who has played a lot of special teams. He had a pick last night that was called back. He could easily make the team.

by UglyOne on Sep 3, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

i forgot about Giordano

but he hasnt made much of an impact, and that pick was nothing, the only reason he got it was the CB held the receiver and Giordano looked like he was fielding a punt.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

he didn’t show anything, even when he blitz’d it looked like he was slow

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by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 3, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slow he isnt

He might not make the team but slow is not a word that describes him.

Chekwa just started playing safety. Its hard to believe that he’ll go into the season as the backup FS when Huff has been playing corner in the nickel and dime packages. Especially with Mitchell hurt.

by UglyOne on Sep 3, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

But either way it doesnt mean Porter and Moore are both in.

by UglyOne on Sep 3, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pray we are bringing in outside help. Sterling > Porter but that takes little

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chekwa must be a Safety .. how else will I win my bet? Also, we will probably acquire Meriweather and lose Boyd

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joselio Hansen would be nice

Akwasi Owusu-Ansah would be nice. Xavier Adibi might be the best available olb right now, but many more cuts to come.

by duballers23 on Sep 3, 2011 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Tavares Gooden might be nice also

Even though he was a 3-4 ILB, he’s probably better than Groves and I’m sure he could play OLB. The Ravens had him, so he must be a decent LB. Plus he went to the U.

by duballers23 on Sep 3, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Negotiations for Meriweather, let us assure ourselves, are underway to replace Boyd

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Make this happen, SOB!

Drive down to HQ and use your power of persuasion

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.

by Rich Langford on Sep 3, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

No need, my Friend, it's after 2pm, Al has had his coffee enema and is sharp as a hounds tooth

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just as ...

Just as Kiffin would said, right after 2pm Mr. Davis would get rolling… GO RAIDERS

by R8drick on Sep 3, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think MASH

A coffee enema with cream & sugar…

by Mallard Davis on Sep 3, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

are we going to get him?

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"There only can be one nation, The Raider Nation"

by AlwaysWinBaby on Sep 3, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dream scenario

Meriweather, Hanson, Gooden/Adibi

by duballers23 on Sep 3, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Hue Jackson's conference

Will it be on tv? Is there a link online?

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Sep 3, 2011 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Seems like it

@CorkontheNFL: Who’s your backup quarterback, coach Jackson? “Wouldn’t you like to know?” Not going to get much out of this call, it seems.

"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire

by aleatoric on Sep 3, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did Hue really respond like that? ... as fucking if it makes a rat's ass difference ... disgusting

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jerry mad lol

“Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Hue on conference call not talking about cuts. A real informative conference call. Nothing people want to know can be addressed”

“Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Just concluded most point less conference call ever. Hue Jackson does his scheduled conf. call on cutdown day without revealing the final 53”

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Hue is a manic depressive bi-polar sum bitch

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

consider, Hue is gushing in week 1 and 2 and mild in week 3 before going livid against Willie Brown and John Fassel

and now plays coy with the press and Nation when there is no need whatsoever. Jacoby twitted last week that he was scared of Jackson and now I’m beginning to understand why he might be.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never like Bullies, have always considered them as cowards

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

And if our team played like a “bully” how the hell does that translate to some W’s i can see some 15 yd personal foul calls though

by angelraiders on Sep 3, 2011 4:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hue's "Bully Campaing" was doomed from the start. We have assembled excellent athletes of good character

who only need to be galvanized into a well orchestrated unit. A better “campaign” for a new Raider image should have been something like “Ruthless Raiders” or “The Team To Tough To Lose” or “Men in Black” but what we have now, with this whole bully theme just isn’t taking with this group. Our DL was already tough, thanks to Waffle and Seymour, but the rest of our defense is more or less a reactionary group that reflect its HC.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

what the fuck?

"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson

by hero66 on Sep 3, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

god forbid the announcement is not made on Jerry's schedule

lol

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1 Probably had plans at 4:30 PM(S)

Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 3, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Raiders are playing their hand like Cool hand Luke:

Why would they talk about cuts when they know that they need players and some really good players have been cut and are on the block. It would make zero sense to EVER talk about it.

Get used to it. This is how our team operates and I respect them for it.

Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 3, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Enlighten me please how this is playing "Cool hand Luke" ... sounds more like a madman

@CorkontheNFL: Who’s your backup quarterback, coach Jackson? "Wouldn’t you like to know?"

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather sign Merriweather and Black:

Then make my cuts. I’d be much more sure of who I need once I know who I can get.

He hasn’t named the back-up QB because he doesn’t know yet.

Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 3, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's reasonable. But why not say, I'm not sure who my back-up QB is at this moment instead of what he said?

It’s just embarrassing that our coach, who desperately wants to project strength, presents himself as evasive and disingenuous.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, not being willing to even name your back-up QB (at this moment, Sat. 9/3) is paranoia

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...

- J Kerouac

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 3, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont

"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson

by hero66 on Sep 3, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is such a thing as prudent discretion; there is also something else called insecurity, in the extreme it's called paranoia

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tatupu, Sharper, Harris, Gooden

4 players on D the Raiders should definately take a look at.

by rnpljnsn on Sep 3, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

A little tidbit from NFL

The excellent tight end for the Chiefs, Mowaki (sorry if I spelled it wrong) got injured in the game on Thursday and is on IR and will miss 6 games at least. Cassel was also hurt playing in the 4th quarter. For those who have complained about the Raiders not playing their best players in the pre season this is a good lesson to remember. God knows the team has looked awful, and the games have been almost unwatchable but in the final analysis the 0-4 record means nothing. If after 4 games into the season it looks this bad, then we have problems. I have seen nothing in these games to give me much confidence, I’ve hated the play calling, the pass defense, the pass rush, or for that matter the running attack but with the likes of Bennett, Cartwright and Rankin I did not expect much. The test starts a week from Monday.

by Laoren on Sep 3, 2011 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

But I also know

I haven’t seen this “team” yet fully healthy for a full game. I really think the re-mergence of the run attack of Mcfadden, with added balance by Bush and T Jones, the gelling of a non musical chairs rotating OL, and With Boss, Moore, DHB, Murphy Schilins and the like catching passes, this will be a high scoring offense….

by Toolshed1485 on Sep 3, 2011 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

that being said

it is obvious our defense will be our achilles heel. I mean Mcclain, seymour and the Front guys will be fine, but its our linebackers and secondary that worries me….huff and route and hopefully a healthy johnson will prove to make some plays in the regular season, but its those who will fill the other 3-4 spots depending on down/distance, package and defensive strategy, that have potential to get picked apart, just the way Brees, and every other quarterback we’ve seen this preseason did….

by Toolshed1485 on Sep 3, 2011 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

“PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
#Raiders Hue Jackson says he has “total” communication with Al Davis: bit.ly/r0a5qx"

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

did u read the other story about Pryor?

That is funny that he ducked the media like that. I like when rookies avoid the media, especially in times that they might say something they shouldn’t.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 6:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

As opposed to what? Limited communication? Partial communication through an intermediary? No communication?

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Jackson was then asked if there’s been anything surprising in his relationship with the man he’s called “Coach” Davis since the day he was hired.

“No, just that it’s been totally opposite of what everyone thinks it is,” Jackson said. “He is someone that I can communicate with, bounce things off of and talk to, talk through things with. As I said before, this is his team. I respect that. But, boy, do we really have some great conversations about where we need to go and what we need to do to get better.”"

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 1st round OT from Oaklahoma?!

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

i nearly shit my pants

"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson

by hero66 on Sep 3, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAVIS HAS CHANGED!!!! lol

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Oakland cut QB Trent Edwards and LB Sam Williams.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Williams cut is surprising

this means we are gonna get a new LB!!!!

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree

Sam was always an Al favourite as well

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

So only going with 2 QB's until TP comes back

interesting

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe theres a FA we are eying

Adam Weber was waived by the donkeys and i heard he was far better than tebow.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best course of action

Keep a guy like Gordan or Tommie Hill around or go out and sign anyone.

by UglyOne on Sep 3, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

he did

we should sign him or Weber to the Practice Squad

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

good call. i like tolzein alot. Im a badger fan and he played better than any other badger qb ive seen

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 6:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

i saw the highlights but the bar i was playing pool at had the packers on instead

He already looks like the best Badger qb ever though lol

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 11:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Since we picked up Shaughnessy, I've adopted the Badgers as Big 10 favorite good luck against the Beaves

Also, Michael Bennett doesn’t deserve the negative comments posted since he cuts. He is a placeholder but has been a decent and trustworthy reservist and solid in STs

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 4, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
As for reported Sam Williams cut (ESPN), it’s happened before. As veteran, can claim entire year’s salary if cut if on roster Week 1.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Try that last one again, if Sam Williams is on Week 1 roster, he can claim entire year’s salary if cut at later date during season.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

cuts

Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Here we go . . . Waived: Bayes (inj), Brock, Brodine, SBrown, Cumbie, Francis, Gbadyu, DHill, Jackson, Leman, WMcFadden, McGee, SMoore .

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:32 PM PDT reply actions  

gbadyu and smoore i liked

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 6:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

me too

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 6:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Raiders veterans terminated: Shaun Bodiford, Trent Edwards, Matt Giordano, Daniel Loper, Lito Sheppard and Sam Williams.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Raiders waived: Masase Tonga, Kevin Brock, Mason Brodine, Jamie Cumbie, Chris Francis, Bain Gbadyu, Derrick Hill, Tommie Hill.

CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Rest of Raiders waived: Stevie Brown, Chad Jackson, Jeremy Leman, Walter McFadden, Sterling Moore, Glenn Pakulak, Louis Rankin, Alex Parsons

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tonga was worthless too (I mention him b/c he was overvalued by several here)

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

i dont understand the love for Tonga some had

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

decent blocking FB

not a running or receiving threat at all

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loper cut is a pleasant surprise. I will now celebrate with Bowmore

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

frees up a fair bit of cash too

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Loper cut means Wiz is a solid starter there.

 Not that it comes as a surprise, but does become more of a factual conclusion.

by RaiderPsycho on Sep 3, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well a few surprises... Also has Hue touched a few of you in a special way!!

I can careless about the media, what they think or say…And afterall the media outside of Oakland has not respected us in the slightest in years, and that is before we started all this losing…. To see players cut we thought would be here is a clear sign that things are going to change with the Raiders. Edwards, Williams, Stevie Moore, and the others so I will say this, none of these players were game changers. Not 1…So shaking things up does not hurt, all things considered. There was no real chemistry this preseason thus the changes come easy. Hue can handle the media any way he wants, this is the Raiders, and as I mention, we have NEVER been media darlings..ie 49ers…Hopefully, the Raiders plan will work and we will see positive results…Go Raiders!!!

by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 3, 2011 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

i agree but will feel better if we bring in meriweather.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 6:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Got to respect Hue.

He had his hands full with all this work to make these tough decisions with so many new faces in a shortened preseason. Now we have to see how it all works out on the field. I am still expecting positives.

by RaiderPsycho on Sep 3, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now, if we can cut Porter, Boyd and Groves this will be a great day on par with Cianco de Sixo

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:42 PM PDT reply actions  

rather, Sixo de Mayo

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Jamarcus was cut on Sixo de Mayo

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, glad you understand now

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't know that it happened on May 6th.

Goes to show what impact he had, to remember the cut date of the most atrocious player we had.

by RaiderPsycho on Sep 3, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

And if Groves is cut today I celebrate Trese de Sepombro forever too

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he sure had me going there.

And I’m the one that needs to be watched closely?

by RaiderPsycho on Sep 3, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tres de Septiembre ain't gonna happen. But when that day comes when Groves is gone I will

make an effort to correctly spell the calendar day.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao i will never forget that now. i will party all day the next day after cinco de mayo too from now on

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 6:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think(or hope) Boyd will be cut once Mitchell is healthy

Porter will be in Hirams STs spot and groves is the new sam williams.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Davis the II is another head scratcher

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

full 53 man roster

http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html

I’m surprised Bennett made the team 5 rb’s on the roster, they must like him on special teams

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Seth Wand is a bit of a surprise too

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought nick miller was gone for sure

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 6:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

wow

hopefully we will sign his replacement then cut him

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree, Wand and Davis IX only demonstrate how bad things are at LB

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Wanda is an OT

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Ware will be going to IR

"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson

"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor

by Ozraider on Sep 3, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we could look at Zac Diles

"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson

by Ghost Raider on Sep 3, 2011 6:52 PM PDT reply actions  

another weird thing

are we gonna carry 4 TEs? i think Gordon will be cut and signed to the PS

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

What I am woried about i with 5 Rb's

they will try to trade Bush

"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson

by Ghost Raider on Sep 3, 2011 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

You may be right that. It is suspicious and he is our most desireable non-starter

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

easily are most valuable non starter. id hate to see the bears get that much better lol

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 3, 2011 7:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

So Raiders have roughly $7-8 million in cap space right now

"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson

by Ghost Raider on Sep 3, 2011 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I really hope this doesn't happen

But I can see Bush being traded for Lance Briggs

"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson

by Ghost Raider on Sep 3, 2011 7:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't but I do. Oh help me Al, only you can make such weighty choices

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 3, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Bush is a favorite but Briggs brings so much to the team.

by RyanTheRaider on Sep 3, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

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