New England Patriots vs. Oakland Raiders: Richard Seymour Will Not Let Raiders Lose
by Rich Langford on Sep 30, 2011 5:33 PM PDT
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Richard Seymour doesn't enter many NFL games with something to prove. The guy has done everything an NFL player can do on a football, and it might land him in the Hall of Fame. That said, he has something to prove in this one.
The Patriots traded Seymour because they did not want to pay him. They simply felt he wasn't worth the big investment that he wanted. Richard Seymour and the Raiders disagreed.
While I wouldn't expect him to say it publicly, you better believe that Seymour has had this game circled since the schedule was announced. I doubt there is an opponent in the league that Seymour would rather personally destroy than the Patriots. Jump over for more....
Seymour has shown time and again, that when he is fully healthy, he has the ability to take over games. Look at the Raiders close wins since Seymour's arrival, and you are likely to find a huge play made by Seymour that either turned the momentum or sealed a Raider win.
Seymour has the ability to raise his game to a level that few players can match. I expect him to do just that for this one. Seymour is the heart and soul of this team. More than any other players, the Raiders feed off of the energy of Seymour. He is going to make sure that not only he, but his teammates, are prepared and jacked for the opportunity to meet the challenge of this amazing Patriots offensive attack.
Seymour will undoubtedly face a day of double teams. He will be the focus of the Patriots blocking schemes. His defensive linemates need to exploit the lesser attention paid to him, and Seymour needs to foil the well laid blocking plans of the Patriots.
There is plenty of reasons to suggest that this is exactly what will happen, and in the end, I expect Seymour to make a couple of plays that disrupt the Patriots offense just enough for the Raiders to win a shootout.
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I hope Seymour has a massive game
It would be great if we can win the game for him. The day would be even better if he got to sack Brady once or twice too!
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
great to hear
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
DT Kelly on old scheme: “We already seen that doesn’t work. And if it doesn’t work against Buffalo, it definitely won’t work with (Pats).”
this is good
Both teams run spread offenses. If the Raiders try the same nonsense they did against Buffalo they will get killed. I expect to see a new scheme.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Sep 30, 2011 6:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
the defensive line was awful in buffalo
when the qb is getting off passes that fast, the line needs to adjust and bat some fucking balls down. our d-line can be way overaggressive sometimes. get some hands up!
Corkran Had A Great Comment In Tuesday's Chat
During Steve Corkran’s chat on Tuesday he had an interesting nugget about the Bills’ defense. Corkran stated that after the Bills went down 21-0 to the Patriots that they shifted to a 4-0-7 defensive scheme with no LBs and 7 defensive backs. The tactic obviously worked.
After getting schooled by the Bills and having some injuries in the defensive secondary, the Raiders shifted tactics to run more zone coverage against the Jets. Add in Tommy Kelly’s quote above and you get the sense that Coaches Jackson and Bresnahan are going to get creative with the defense to try and slow down Tom Brady and Wes Welker.
Unfortunately, the Raiders can’t go all out in the pass defense, given that they’re already giving up a league worst 5.8 yards per carry against the run. The Patriots will run the ball just enough to keep the run defense honest.
We’re all expecting a shootout on Sunday. Let’s hope the defensive line can get some quick pressure on Brady to disrupt that strategic and surgical aerial attack, and hope that Jason Campbell, Darren McFadden, and the rest of the Raiders’ offense can keep pace and give the Raiders a chance to win.
GO RAIDERS!
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Yes! The Bills are emulating the Pats on offense, and they are doing a damn good job.
We must take what we learned from the Bill game and watch the Pat games film and put it all together on what worked and what did not.
The RaiderLaker
7 DBs ? We have trouble fielding 4 decent ones in our base defense. DB is probably the biggest weakness on our team.
by Oceanside Raider on Sep 30, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying we have to copy the Bills completely
It was just an example of how teams are shifting their defensive schemes to deal with the Patriots’ passing attack.
I agree that our secondary is beat up right now, but there’s a big difference in putting out 4 and putting out 6. In our base defense we ask 3 of the 4 guys to play man-to-man coverage. In dime+ packages you’d probably only ask 1 or 2 to play man-to-man and have the rest play zone coverage, where younger guys like Chekwa and DVD may have more success early.
I’m sure the Bills had just as much trouble putting 7 decent DBs in their secondary, but it worked.
Boyd
Branch
Chekwa
Giordano
Huff (Q)
Johnson (O)
Mitchell (P)
Routt
Van Dyke (P)
Even if Huff doesn’t play that gives us 7 guys we could put out there. Plus Ron Parker is on the practice squad if we wanted to make a roster move. Again, I don’t expect the Raiders to play a 4-0-7 like the Bills did, but you can expect a lot of dime+ packages where Groves is off the field and Wimbley is in the DE rotation rather than being in their traditional OLB spots.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
"Monster Big Nickle"....5 Man Front -w- "MLB"-n- 3 "S" -w- 2 "CB"s
No running and good pressure on the “QB” keeping him in the pocket…Now the "DB"s can just concentrate on the pass with “DeathRo” playing the run or “TE”….
Any Raiders fans in San Diego?!?!?
Wondering if there are good Raiders bars down here to watch the game on Sunday at, I live in Mission Beach and all these chargers fans are tough to deal with….
Raiders fans in San Diego
Raider fans in SD.
Any Raiders fans in San Diego?!?!?
Wondering if there are good Raiders bars down here to watch the game on Sunday at, I live in Mission Beach and all these chargers fans are tough to deal with…
I used to live in San Diego for about 5 years. Downtown, I think the place is called the Rock Bottom had quite a few Raiders fan there during Raiders games. It’s been a while though.
http://www.rockbottom.com/
If you like great sushi, Harborside Sushi and Sports Bar should have the game on. I recommend calling first and verifying about their hours. Hector, the sushi Chef is a huge Raiders fan.
Harborside Sushi & Sports
2844 Main Street, San Diego, CA 92113-3729, United States
I’m down here in san d and a RAIDER fan too…if you stay in PB area…then go to Brewley’s on Garnett next to the Tap Room…they will put the Raider game on the speakers…if your going downtown we will be at Bootleggers this sunday…was there for monday night and it seemed like a good place for Raider fans…a lot of them there…
sweet
thanks guys, i’ll definitely hit up one of these places.
by ucsdgoldenbear on Oct 1, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Trophy's Bar -n- Grill Has All The Game All The Time....Several TV's....
Mission Valley Area…Good food and a variety of beer…Please ignore the reviews…Some sick ass folks write this crap….I go on Sundays for the games and everything is fine….Many fans from many teams and lots of fun….
http://maps.google.co.th/maps/place?hl=en&gs_upl=&bav=cf.osb&biw=812&bih=687&noj=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=trophies+san+diego&fb=1&gl=th&hq=trophies&hnear=0×80d9530fad921e4b:0xd3a21fdfd15df79,San+Diego,CA,USA&cid=11713636944589190322
But here is where I usually hang out it the SD area…Charger fans n Raider fans rub shoulders and have fun….I was here last season to watch our 1st spanking of the Chargers and very damn loud…..They never showed me the door but a few wanted to ignore me and one even asked to please not destroy their town???…Wired!!!…But funny!!..
http://maps.google.co.th/maps/place?hl=en&gs_upl=&bav=cf.osb&biw=812&bih=687&noj=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=trophies+san+diego&fb=1&gl=th&hq=trophies&hnear=0×80d9530fad921e4b:0xd3a21fdfd15df79,San+Diego,CA,USA&cid=11713636944589190322
Enjoy but be warned…Charger fans are a bunch of freakin criers!!!…
FREE AGENCY UPDATE!!!!!!!
Could the raiders pad their secondary woes?? what do you guys think about it?
Colts Released Justin Tryon
http://www.nfl.com/player/justintryon/2321/profile
Hmm... I never... heard of... him. Why not just bring back Smoores if we are going to bring in crap!
But seriously, is he any good Toolshed?
The RaiderLaker
If he cant make as a CB for the colts
I dont think he can make it here
by RyanTheRaider on Sep 30, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure Mr. Seymour was more vocal during film session this week...
Mr. Seymour is probably telling the D-line, defense, what he learned while at practicing and watching Tom Brady over the years. No doubt there’s something special about this game to him.
I just don’t see the Patriots taking the ball out of their best player’s hand and trying to run it down Oakland’s throat. That’s not their style nor their strenght. Belichek is going to win the game with the best QB in the game. He’s going to get the ball to his play makers, Welker and Gronkowski. Yes, he’ll keep Oakland honest with some runs, but NE isn’t even sure who their #1 RB is. Ball control and limiting Brady’s opportunity will be the key to our game. Tunover battle is also a must win for us to succeed.
Raider fans in SD.
Any Raiders fans in San Diego?!?!?
Wondering if there are good Raiders bars down here to watch the game on Sunday at, I live in Mission Beach and all these chargers fans are tough to deal with…
I used to live in San Diego for about 5 years. Downtown, I think the place is called the Rock Bottom had quite a few Raiders fan there during Raiders games. It’s been a while though.
http://www.rockbottom.com/
If you like great sushi, Harborside Sushi and Sports Bar should have the game on. I recommend calling first and verifying about their hours. Hector, the sushi Chef is a huge Raiders fan.
Harborside Sushi & Sports
2844 Main Street, San Diego, CA 92113-3729, United States
+1 619-764-5408
id go down there to rep! i live in el cajon!
but i work sunday!! im rarely off for gameday sundays!
by RAIDER_NZO on Sep 30, 2011 7:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Games like this are the whole reason you trade your first round pick in the draft for Big Rich
Richard Seymour now has the opportunity to make a difference for a franchise and rebuild a legacy. If he can’t get the D up for this game then nobody can. This is the time for the Raiders to make a statement to the football world.
When you start to build a champion you look to the best team and you build a team to win your division and beat the best team. The Pats have been that franchise and now look beatable. They no longer have the defensive presence they once possessed. They are doing it with offense and offense only. Remember the Colts they couldn’t win with a pathetic defense. You have to have some ability to stop someone sometime. Right now they haven’t really proven that.
The Raiders are coming off a victory where they punished the Jets who were supposed to be physically dominant. team. The time is now…
Raiders Domination Versus the Boston Tea Party
Special Team and the Defense of the Raiders will win the game. Offense is doing just fine. Just keep the kick returner and punt returner for the Pats at a stand still. Oh by the way Watch Out For The TUCK RULE
Vincent Cinzano
MR. RICHARD SEYMOUR at your service
Brady better hope he didn’t smack any women around like Little Ben Rothenbooger did, if so Richard Seymour will make sure you don’t do it again. He doesn’t care about the fines.
Vincent Cinzano
Smacked 'em around?
Most of the women in question probably WISH that’s all the guy did to ’em.
Assuming, of course, they weren’t all full of shit gold-diggers … which remains at least a remote possibility in my mind.
Anyways, I seriously doubt Tom is that sorta guy. No homo here, but considering his looks and success … I can’t imagine him needing to “force himself” onto chicks in order to get some. Plus, isn’t he like, married or something … I seem to recall …
I just wanna see Dick repeatedly put him face down into the freshly sodded infield with a bunch of good, clean, legal hits. That would be plenty good enough for me.
by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 1, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Messege to all you wimbs in Boston and Patty fans Your team is going down
The Time is Now or it will never be. I will die knowing the Raiders Failed me. So Just Win BABY Please for the sake of all Raiders fan all over the world who will be watching this game. Yes this game will be seen around the world in different countries because the Raiders are the only team that are known World Wide.
What happen to Paul Revere when he rode his horse into the Black Hole. He and the Horse both got shot.
Vincent Cinzano
NO....Paul Defected And Joined "Paul Revere -n- the Raiders" In Cali Making Music!!!
Am I dating myself?….I watched that musical display every week up home in the Seattle area back when….60’s something?….Can’t remember because I was so high back when???
Lost my mind in 69!!!
Final Words of Condolences
Lets all bow our head and say a prayer for the Late Tom Brady who will lie motionless on the 50 yard line of the Raiders Stadium after Richard Seymour smashes him flat on his butt causing Tom to hit is head very hard on the turf and die.
May you rest in peace Tom. No one will miss you
Vincent Cinzano
by vincenzo on Sep 30, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
that's a little harsh
Nobody wants Brady to die. We just want him to fail.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Just be calmer. This type of rhetoric doesn't help
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 30, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't listen to those guys, Vince--this was actually kind of funny.
Over the top. But funny.
"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige
Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Oct 1, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Dead To "V"s Is Great!!!...
Death can symbolize many things like a state of unawareness and I hope that’s were “Tuck-Boy” ends up!!!
I'd prefer he failed miserably while healthy and watched
Gisele beg Richard Seymour to let her date a winner
Slithering along the edge of a straight razor.
by Rich Langford on Sep 30, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hells to tha yeah ...
Haven’t been this geeked for a game since … well … I guess last year playing Jacksonville, when we all knew that our post-season was on the line …
by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 1, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Kudos ...
my sentiments exactly. There is no doubt in my mind that Sey has completely inundated his teammates with every little nick and nuance that he can about this opponent and Brady. I firmly believe that Brady is in for a rough day at the hands of our D-Line and others. Between what the Giants showed in their SB win over the Patsies and what Buffalo showed just last week (pressure Brady and take advantage of Patsies suspect secondary) , firmly believe this Raider team has what it takes … so long as they’ve studied as well as listened to Sey, … to disrupt the Patsies offensive strategy enough to allow this Raiders team to step up and win! GO RAIDERS!!!
D-Line needs to step up and put Brady into the dirt ...
And the O just needs to run the ball successfully, chew up time, and score touchdowns.
I know it’ll be tempting for the staff to want to gameplan to throw the ball a lot more considering how suspect NE’s 2ndary is, but frankly I think that’s a bad idea. If the Jets couldn’t really stop our run game, the Patsies sure as shit ain’t gonna be able to either.
We need to punch ‘em in the face and run it down their throats. Take time off the clock so Brady gets as few ’touches’ in the game as possible, and defense fields a fresh squad every time he does.
I say unless we fall behind by > 14 points, this team should NOT get away from pounding the rock early on no matter what. As all of us know well, ANY time you’re handing the ball to DMac, he is a serious threat to take it to the house. When you have him, you don’t need a buncha long bombs in order to be explosive and able to score quickly.
Pound it, eat up time, make ’em load up the box … then later in the game we can start taking the occasional shot downfield against their weak 2ndary, and those plays are gonna work.
RAAAAAIIIIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRSSSSSS!!!
by Brett J Valjalo on Oct 1, 2011 10:08 AM PDT reply actions
Fat Albert Is Out!!!....They Ain't Going To Stop Any Run!!!..But I Disagree!!!
Pats will come out in a stop the run set…We already know that…So we come out with a 2 “RB” single “TE” set with 2 "WR"s….
1st dn we play-action and pass….Than go hurry up to keep them from shifting out of their coverages…
Now we shift our 2 "RB"s out wide and throw on their piss poor pass “D” that’s already limited as a run stopping unit…
We score and from now on they don’t try that coverage again!!!…Our Run will now slowly destroy them….
I like it
we’ll need the playbook wide open for this game. Brady will follow the quick hitter philosophy that the Bills used to gash us in the middle and I’d keep Groves as far from the field as possible.
It’s going to be a shootout, hopefully our run game can keep Brady and Co. off the field with long time consuming drives for touchdowns and Seymour and Co. can apply pressure all day.
Go Raiders!!!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
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