Oakland Raiders vs. Denver Broncos: Scouting the Trenches
by Rich Langford on Sep 7, 2011 5:01 AM PDT
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The Oakland Raiders dominated the Denver Broncos in 2010 by destroying them in the trenches. They are going to have to do more of the same if they want to dominate them on Monday Night Football.
The Raiders are certainly set up to do just this. The Broncos offensive line should be a much improved unit in 2011. LT Ryan Clady is nearing his pre-injury 2009 form. RG Chris Kuper is a solid veteran. LG Zane Beadles and J.D. Walton enter their second year and have had solid preseason. RT Orlando Franklin is looking like a solid second-round choice and should be a decent RT from Week One.
Improvements aside, other than Clady, the Raiders defensive line should be able to win these matchups. They just won't be winning them as easily as they did last year.
The defensive line is a different story. When it comes to rushing the passer the Broncos defensive line is 1000 percent improved. Elvis Dumervil looks like the player he was in 2009. Robert Ayers will start opposite of him at defensive end, and he could make an impact as a pass rusher. Jump over for more....
In passing situations, Ayers will slide inside to tackle and Von Miller will take his spot at defensive end. This is a very formidable pass rushing line. As I am sure you are aware, pass blocking is not the Raiders strong suit. Dumevil and Miller could give Veldheer and Barnes fits.
The good news is that the Raiders shouldn't be in too many passing situations. The Broncos defensive line is not suited to stop the run. Dumervil is not a slouch against the run, but Ayers will have a hard time sealing the edge. And the defensive tackles shouldn't be able to clog up anything.
Kevin Vickerson will be one of the starting tackles. At 290 pounds, Vickerson is better suited to be a DE in a 3-4. He is certainly not a run stuffing DT.
Brodrick Bunkley is the Broncos other starting defensive tackle. He came to the Broncos from the Eagles. He is a former first-round pick, but he has never lived up to that potential. He is solid at the point of attack and is the Broncos best D-Line run defender. However, Bunkley hurt his knee in the third preseason game and is questionable for this Monday Night game. Even if he does go, it does not sound like he will be 100 percent.
If he can't go Ryan McBean will take his spot. McBean is garbage. Especially against the run. He gets pushed around easily and struggles mightily at the point of attack.
The Broncos lack power on the interior defensive line. This plays right into the hands of the more finesse blocking styling of Cooper and Satele. It will also be a nice way for Wisniewski to break into the NFL. He won't face any bull rushes in this game that he didn't routinely face in college.
The Raiders offensive line should be able to kill the Broncos defensive line in the run game. If they don't, it could be a long season.
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"Donkey" Can't Hang!!!
I like the improvement of our “OL” which is to say the least a most pleasant surprise…This unit was my biggest concern coming into camp with “LB” as #2 which has sense been elevated to #1…
We have depth now on the right side in the form of a young tandem…Barksdale-n-Campbell who I expect so see often later playing together in run situations…Stephon Heyer backs up the “LT”…This is looking good enough to compete and we could still add another body….
Our “DL” has not lost a thing from last season but get one player back healthy…That has to be considered an improvement…Now they also have another season together so are well accustomed with each others play…
The "LB"s are another story but have now had a full season together and I’m hoping for the best…Their not exactly the “Trenches” but they do have a great of afect regarding what takes place in pass rush as well as run support…
Denver: “DL”
New scheme with a very shorthand prep time..3-4 to 4-3 transition…Players coming off injury or virtually unproven…Not much time working together…Their backed up by "LB"s who are also transitioning from the 3-4 to the 4-3….Bodies in both units are now playing in different techniques and positions…This takes time to gel….Maybe mid-season they are a force but NOT week #1 NOT MonDayNight NOT against our Raiders!!!
perhaps an indication
That we have two surprise goodies coming our way? Maybe a WLB or another veteran CB? Who (that’s worth a shit) is still out there?
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 7, 2011 7:58 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
tye hill hasnt signed yet i dont think
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 7, 2011 10:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Given Fox's reputation for being a defense minded coach...
I think it is also a good time to be playing Denver as he hopefully will not have had the time to improve their run defense.
Yes...Later In The Season They My Be Stonger On The "D" Side Of The Ball....
On the “O” they still have the same “OC” despite the exit of “McDamnMules” so some stability there but they weren’t worth a shit last season under him so doubt there will be much more now….Perhaps a little better running game but their “OL” is in transition from the “PBS” back to the “ZBS”….
One thing about our “D” is that they have already practiced a few seasons against the “ZBS” so are very familiar….
Our run defense is the major
question mark thus far. Hopefully we get some good answers against you guys! McFadden and Bush are a load though, my goodness…
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
watch out for the rook Taiwan Jones
kid is explosive
Dangerously? Yea.
by TooShort2Play on Sep 7, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched the I-AA playoffs
and the Eags won without him but I know how swift he is. Eastern Washington played my alma mater, Southern Utah last year and he killed my Thunderbirds, so yes, I am concerned I must say
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Cartwright I could do without
But hagan would be sorely missed, something might be going on here though….
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 7, 2011 8:50 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
erroneous roster report
Raiders.com roster lists no such change (although I still feel bush, McFadden, and jones are plenty enough rb depth for this team)
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 7, 2011 8:57 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Depth Chart...Not Listed...Listed On Roster Only....Only 2 Players Treated This Way???
I’m just asking why?…What’s up with that?
The depth chart on the website is not gospel
I would read nothing in to it whatsoever
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 7, 2011 3:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Cockran Questions It Too???
It’s interesting to note that Hagan isn’t even listed on the Raiders depth chart, while the six other receivers are listed.
That brings about the possibility of the Raiders not even activating Hagan for the Broncos game. Too early to get worked up over that one, though.
Don't get rid of Cartwright
The guys is one of our best special teams players. He was T-2nd with 15 special teams tackles last year, had a forced fumble on special teams against KC, and had a blocked punt against SD. Not only that, he’s an amazing locker-room guy and a class act.
Yes he’s 4th on the depth chart at RB, but his contribution to the team goes much further than that.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
sorry my bad, totally agree
i fogot about his special teams role, guess i’m just currently blinded by the fact that we really need 1 or 2 more LB or secondary guys to relieve all this doubt on Defense…..
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 7, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Injuries preventing certain moves
Ideally the Raiders wouldn’t have 4 TEs or 7 WRs on the 53-man roster, but with key injuries at those positions the coaching staff obviously saw it necessary to have sufficient depth at those positions at the start of the season to deal with those injuries.
I expect the Raiders to make a few moves to bring in veterans after MNF once veteran contracts aren’t guaranteed for the whole season.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
As I Understand It The Season Starts Thursday For Everyone...
Maybe we will see some movement Friday…
Who didn't have a blocked punt
against the Dolts last season?
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
just raiders.com roster
No such changes have occurred
by Toolshed1485 on Sep 7, 2011 8:54 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I Was Just There...raiders.com/roster....51 Players -w- No Rock or Derek...
Some players are named twice like Campbell n “Wiz II”….
http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html
They’re back now.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Calm down
Quote from your page:
Oakland Raiders UNOFFICIAL Depth Chart as of September 5, 2011.
The Raiders update that unofficial depth chart very infrequently. Rock Cartwright and Derek Hagan are listed on the Raiders team roster at the link I provided above, which is a page they do update more often. Calm down, they’re on the team.
Cartwright’s absence from that depth chart makes sense since they only go 3 deep at any particular position and he’s obviously the 4th RB. I’ll chalk Hagan’s absense to simply they haven’t gotten around to changing the unofficial depth chart yet.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Explain Why 4 "TE"s Are Listed But Can't List 4 "RB"s Or 4 "WR"s On One Side???
“S” #27 Matt Giordano n “LB” #57 Ricky Brown were recently added and #74 Bruce Campbell is now listed backing up both "G"s….So all of this was updated in the past day or so but no space or consideration was found for Rock n Derek???
Seems a little strange to me so I’m simply asking WHY?…Maybe the one who controls that board was lost on some “JePurpleDrank” he found left behind in an old abandoned locker and simply forgot?
The answer is
I have no idea. I will simply reenforce my original idea that you shouldn’t rely on that depth chart for an understanding of who is on the Raiders’ roster. If you did, you’d have no idea that Terrelle Pryor, Rock Cartwright, or Derek Hagan were Raiders.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
09/05/2011 Released RB Michael Bennett and re-signed S Matt Giordano
Well that’s nice but Derek n Rock were still on the Roster when that transaction took place!!!
Dude chill the fuck out
That depth chart means absolutely nothing
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 7, 2011 3:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hagan and a 1st for Briggs!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 7, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Chicago needs WRs and OL ... throw in Barnes and close the deal tomorrow. The reign of Barksdale begins
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 7, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw that, then I looked at the actual Roster and saw their names on the active list..
I expect them both to play Monday night…
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 8, 2011 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions
"Donkey" Added To "OL"....Only Played In 3 Games For Pitts...No Stats...2nd Yr Player...
Broncos | Tony Hills signed
Wed, 07 Sep 2011 08:26:05 -0700
The Denver Broncos have signed free-agent OL Tony Hills (Steelers) to a two-year contract. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
I'm not sure if I'm reading that wrong..
Just to be clear in case it’s not, that dude is a backup. There’s no chance of either of our tackles needing a replacement unless there was an injury.
Confucious says: It's pretty tough to intercept a pitch in the backfield.
To the eye candy in the back: Sorry Rahim. Sorry Goody. Not now Vaughn. With only 35 pass yards to WRs this year (1's v 1's), Elvis and Von aren't giving you the chance to 'see ball, get ball'. Poor guys :=(
I Da No!!!...Just Reported As It Was Reported....2 Yr Deal Though???
Maybe your Head Masters aren’t as sure of things as you are???
A Strange Look At Our Schedule: Power Rankings...
Rank Team Total Points
1. Packers (9) 288
2. Patriots 273
7. Jets 236
8. Chargers 229
12. Texans 176
14. Lions 166
16. Bears 156
18. Chiefs 161
19. Raiders 128
22. Dolphins 95
24. Browns 80
25t. Vikings 76
28. Bills 61
30. Broncos 29
heheh
right
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 7, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Prolley Right...But Why Should We Be Benieth "KC" Who We Beat Twice???
“SD” I can see due to all the hype every season…But “KC”???…What up with that!!!
You be where you be for very damn good reason…You have to date done NOTHING to alter anyone’s opinion…Your just a constantly mediocre 8-n-8 football team who has fallen off the cliff…Even in “09” as you pimp what a great team you had the records show you were a mediocre team…But you never post those stats though very legitimate!!
This article is fair in that the game will come down to whether...
Denver can stop the run with our 2nd and 3rd string tackles. We will probably have to have both safeties crowd the box, play Ayers more at tackle, dare you to throw against Champ and Goodman, and hope Von and Doom can get to the QB on time.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
I Like's It...Please Please Put That In As You "D" Scheme....
With 7-8 in the box “D-Mac” n “TJ” will eat you up with "JC"s little dump-offs and our "TE"s will have a field day….Than Ford/“DHB”/Moore will be getting lose deep and dragging what little help you have left away from the "RB"s n "TE"s who will be covered by your "LB"s who were trying to stop the run….Meanwhile Hagen will be working the cleared out middle of the field and Chaz will get his close to the Red Zone….And “JC” got’s legs…He’s a runner so when he takes off all your defenders have to respect that and play off his targets leaving them wide open…
Oh!! My!!…Did I forget Bush ramming his ass into your front 7-8 or throwing the “HB” pass down the field to Reece who will get his action in this game too…
Bottom line there are just far too many weapons for you to concentrate on the run that way…Most likely you will try to play it safer than that…Try to keep everything in front of you by playing 1 or 2 “S” deep…"CB"s n one “LB” in coverage and rushing 5 with the blitz…That would be a much smarter way to play I would think and than wait for a “JC” mistake r a fumble to give you hope!!!
Goodman was injured last year and kinda sucked frankly....
but the year before, he was awesome. Preseason he looks like 2009 Goodman. Denver is using Champ in the slot for the first time because of defenses just not throwing his way. Since Champ is excellent in run support and coverage, he’ll be covering the Wes Welkers of the world and he’s looked really good in preseason (no sign of aging from what I see). The weak link would be Cassius Vaughn, but if Von and Doom can create havoc, whoever Vaughn is covering might not get a chance to get open and force the QB to challenge Bailey all night.
I know Denver’s improvement will likely be slow, but Fox has the Broncos looking more confident and professional as opposed to the week to week cluster-f### that existed in the McDaniels era. First week optimism is running deep.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
by margabelle on Sep 7, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Understood And We Be Suffering From The Same Psychotic Episodes Of Grandeur Too!!!
I guess that’s just that “Sports Mentality” that plagues us all and drive us to keep coming back for more and more pain and punishment…
Come to think of it sorta resembles a wife!!
Goodman has looked good
in preseason though, of course, so did that Victor Cruz wideout for the Giants so, game’s on Andre’, let’s see what you’ve got!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 7, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Champ has indeed lost a step..
but he still a premier cover-corner in this league
They say the cool is all over me..
All three of our top corners run sub-4.4's
All three are blazing fast. As for Champ, I dare you to find a nationally respected publication that says he’s not a top10 even at this stage.
Long in the tooth is what you call guys like Dawkins who is 37. Champ is not old for a corner.
Confucious says: It's pretty tough to intercept a pitch in the backfield.
To the eye candy in the back: Sorry Rahim. Sorry Goody. Not now Vaughn. With only 35 pass yards to WRs this year (1's v 1's), Elvis and Von aren't giving you the chance to 'see ball, get ball'. Poor guys :=(
you're funny today PR
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 7, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Just The Religiously Unfounded Hype!!!..."I Believe So It Must Be True" Syndrome!!!
Ridiculous so as a result hysterically funny…Going back 2 seasons to pimp what will be this season while forgetting that 2 seasons ago your record was 8-n-8 Mediocrity!!!
Than when something is pointed out about last season the reply is “That was 2010 and doesn’t apply to 2011”….But 2009 does???…Come-on folks…Get Real!!!
Your team couldn’t stop the rush for how many seasons now???..And MonDayNight that’s what’s going to be shoved down your throats play after play setting you up for a deep strike!!!
Now how are you going to deal with that???
You cant compare our d-line to any before...
because last year we didnt have doom or von, and our lineman have changed, so you cant compare our NEW d-line with anything from past years.
however our secondary, and to some extent our LB corp has remained intact over the years. you cannot deny the talent of Champ, Goody, Dawk or even DJ. Their production has been, and will be for the foreseeable future.. above average
They say the cool is all over me..
Excuse Me But Exactly What Did Thos Players Do For You "D" Last Season???
I do deny your talent or I deny that anyone has the ability to know how to coach it…
Your pass “D” was totally inept last season with the players you just maned and so was your rush “D”…Even worse…
They might not have carried our team (which would be impractical for a DB to do anyway)
but they did not play poorly. Our pass D was subject (mostly) because we had no pass rush. Any QB, I repeat, ANY QB can find open receivers when he has 5 seconds to sit in the pocket, which is what we let happen last year. Now that we have a different d-line, and what would appear to be an above-average pass rush, our “talent” in the secondary could have a chance to really make a difference.
They say the cool is all over me..
"Sanction Gate" About To Go Bilistic...Can The "Dictator" Stand Up???
" Explaining Pryor. So why is everyone making such a big deal of the Terrelle Pryor case? It actually is much deeper than this quarterback’s particular case. The bottom line here is that a group of veteran players and agents are concerned, for obvious reasons, about the NFL setting a precedent in which they’re able to enforce punishments over NCAA violations. The really interesting thing is the league’s concern is more about protecting the supplemental draft and not having it become an easy out for college players who change their mind after the January deadline to declare for the draft. Ultimately, the suspension was considered a compromise when it came down, after two weeks of discussions between Pryor’s folks and the commissioner’s office, as a way to allow the player to go pro and the league to prevent sea change in the way the supplemental draft is employed. But the larger issues came to the forefront.
Many interested parties and a lot of money involved. If the Commissioner takes them head-on he will lose
Imagine the number of Amicus Curiae coming from agents’ lawyers. On the side, I can only see the NCAA in support (with the Commish) of the precedent.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 7, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate college football. Gross exploitation of kids.
They should give Div. I athletes a stipend to play for the school, and then give them a 4 year scholarship anytime after they’ve played out their eligibility so they can actually have time to learn and earn a legit. degree.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Agree. the NCAA has been aware of the pressures on top athletes (who are going to make millions but are at the poverty line in schoo) and like the Olympic Committee officials
do nothing to ease the problem but never fail to punish players caught breaking their archaic rules.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"I made a trade for Seymour. ..I thought it was a great trade. Still do. [Al Davis 1/2011]
"I love to win, even against my daughters, I want to win" Hue "Action" Jackson 8/19/11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 7, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting to see the NFL's punishment of Edwards vs. Pryor
Edwards gets a DWI and is fined $50K but is not suspended. Pryor is suspending 5 games. So making a little money in the NCAA is worse than drunk driving? And of course his coach gets no penalty from the NFL, although the Colts did a voluntary delay in bringing him into games to make it look nice for the NFL.
@WorldBLee
One Thing About This Issue Is That It Crosses Party Lines...
No matter what team we support we can still see the gross negativity associated with this whole process by the NCAA n NFL Commissioner…I hope this really boils over and exposes all the wrong doings at their level and instigates a full scale investigation…Not sure by who but it needs to be done….
If Goodall was smart he would immediately back off from this issue and reinstate Pryor to avoid all this scrutiny….But if he be a complete Dumb Ass he will try to fight this battle and lose big time…I rather hope he tries to fight it and everything blow up in his face…What an appropriate conclusion if he’s relieved of his duties!!!…
Than go after the NCAA too!!!
Also That Other Player Was Involved In Gun Play And Arested For Another Issue As Well...
He wasn’t punished at all because it was during the Lock-Out….
Big Ben is involved in a Rape situation and NOT punished???
Rapistberger
is the worst scumbag of all time in the NFL, the Steelers think they’re so righteous but like any other team, they’ve got skeletons in the closet….
Brad James
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty Sure
Big Ben served a four game suspension for that last year. Unless you’re referring to something else.
He did get suspended
And he didn’t even get convincted of anything
"We’re going to be a tough, rugged football team that walks with a swagger and plays the way the Raiders used to play." Hue Jackson
"Just win baby. That’s what Al Davis says and that’s all I want to do. . . . I just want to be the best, and I just want to win." - Terrelle Pryor
by Ozraider on Sep 7, 2011 6:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate the BC$
is this something Broncos and Raiders fans agree on?
Brad James
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
quit trying to be our friends, its not gonna work!
haa just kidding.. the BCS is bullshit
Dangerously? Yea.
by TooShort2Play on Sep 7, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Raiders will NEVER be my friends
but I still respect you (ugh I feel kind of dirty:) because we get to compete. Those poor kids in college don’t because Auburn has tradition and Boise State doesn’t smh
Brad James
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
dont get me started on the Boise State bullshit.
that school doesnt have to prove anymore shit. if they go undefeated again and dont play for the national championship im gonna give up on the BCS
Dangerously? Yea.
by TooShort2Play on Sep 7, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
which one, the one that beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
What school did he play for? I can probably find him if you tell me what years he played.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
WoW!!..He Was The Idaho "QB" In A Bowl Game....
I was back in USAirSpace so watched it at the bar…Don’t remember if that was 2 or 3 seasons ago…I remember he had good size…Maybe it was the same season as “JePurpleDraknk” won that Bowl game….Prolley because I was watching allot of college games that season looking to see who we would get at #1….Most seasons I don’t see much college games…
I can hold my nose for a couple of days if you guys ....
… don’t debate whether Tebow should be # 2 or #3 QB. It’s much preferable debating the ways Denver may beat you on Monday.
One thing I’m curious about your team, I just never understood why Cable was fired after going 6-0 in the division last year. Are there any signs that firing Cable is going to set you back this year?
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
We fired Cable because we felt Hue was more valuable to our new “success” and were afraid to lose him. Cable is a joke anyway
Dangerously? Yea.
by TooShort2Play on Sep 7, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You Had "McDamnMules" And His Cameraman "Spy Gate West"...
We had “Whore Gate” as she was brought along to away games and either spanking him or getting spanked herself….Not really concerned as to who spanked who but the jest is pretty sickening from an ass who was preaching all that Holiness to his players…“High Standards”
This after the “Wife Beatting” accusations and the “Jaw Bone”….So enough was enough!!!
But yes as TooShort2Play posted we were worried about losing Hue too…
Cable
was a great motivator but horrible at clock management. We lost 2 games due to poor time calculations and BAD challenges. The Jac game specifically. We blew a challenge on an easy call, then we were not able to challenge a total BS TD catch that was bobbled in the end zone. Cap that game with the Seabass FG miss in Arizona, and we were playoff bound.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
In Time For Our Practice Squad...
Panthers | Stevie Brown released
Wed, 07 Sep 2011 09:48:25 -0700
The Carolina Panthers have released FS Stevie Brown.
Brown not eligible for practice squad
by TnSD11 on Sep 7, 2011 2:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I Hope He Can't Go And Buffalo Gets Their 1st Win:
Chiefs | Matt Cassel throwing during practice
Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:34:11 -0700
Kansas City Chiefs QB Matt Cassel (rib) was throwing mostly short passes during the media-access portion of practice Wednesday, Sept. 7. Cassel did try a few mid-range passes during the session.
It all sounds good on paper, now let’s go out and execute! Has there ever been a longer preseason than this one? Seems like we’ve been waiting an eternity to see what these RAIDERS are gonna do. Well I’m just gonna hope for the best because trying to figure this team out and the direction they’re gonna go has just been damn near impossible!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
Nice write up Rich.
good points and I appreciate you giving credit where its due.
They say the cool is all over me..
I think that's a pretty fair breakdown
I think this game essentially comes down to DMF’s fantasy numbers. If he has a big day, the Raiders will win. If not, the Raiders will lose. My opinion, of course. The one area that I wanted to add from a Broncos perspective is on the DT. You’re right Vickerson used to be known as ‘Big Vick’. He weighed 321 pounds at the end of last season and was extended to be our nose guard. He went down to 285lbs this offseason without permission. He thought he was doing the right thing I guess, but it was a pretty stupid move. He lost his starting spot when Ty Warren and Bunkley were brought in. Warren is out for a long time. Bunkley, though, is a very, very underrated move. I’m just going to copy and paste what I wrote on another reply over at MHR earlier…
Bunkley played in 71 of 75 games for the Eagles since he was a rookie. He began starting for them in his 2nd year and was their opening day starter every since. During the three years he was their starter, the Eagles ranked 4th, 4th and 11th in run defense. If he was good enough to start on their DL, what makes him laughable here?
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Bunk got injured last year and never played completely the same. He kept playing all year, but wasn’t near 100%. The Eagles dropped to 15th in run defense. The Eagles are a perenially stout against the run and have a guy they’ve been developing behind Bunk. With his contract coming up after this year, the Eagles had to either let go of him this year for something… or next year for nothing. Since the Broncos were on a cash strapped budget, they saw Bunkley as a way to get a stellar starter – temporarily – without having to give a new contract or a fat signing bonus. So they traded for Bunk.
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Bunkley looked terrific in preseason until getting injured. He’s back now. ANd he’s not laughable, with Ty Warren out, Bunkley will be the only thing stopping DMF from laughing at us. Bunkley is a much better than solid run-stopper. Eagles fans were pissed when he was let go. PFF ranks him very highly. He’s not injury prone. There’s nothing wrong with him.
Again, I thought it was a pretty fair and accurate report overall. Rec
Confucious says: It's pretty tough to intercept a pitch in the backfield.
To the eye candy in the back: Sorry Rahim. Sorry Goody. Not now Vaughn. With only 35 pass yards to WRs this year (1's v 1's), Elvis and Von aren't giving you the chance to 'see ball, get ball'. Poor guys :=(
Thanks Rodney. So Bunkley is a definite go on Monday?
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Sep 7, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
In Broncoland we are looking forward to third and longs......
Can we force this on the Raiders? Cant wait and see if we cant.
You are correct that our rushing D was gawdawful last season. Monday night could be a nightmare for sure but expect some improvement.
Pepper needs new shorts!
I don't know.
But I won’t be surprised if we force OURSELVES in 3rd and long due to penalties (looks at khalif Barnes…)… ugh.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
for our sake I hope you are right ;-)
Doom and Von will be licking their chops….
Pepper needs new shorts!
Taiwan Jones and McFadden can both likely outrun miller.............
especially jones.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
If not one mentioned it
they did resign Zach Ethridge, but believe he is out for year with pcl tear and strain or something
Anybody else here brave enough to take the bet PantyRaider and I have?
Your SB profile pic is the winning team for a week!!
I’d so love to come here and see a row of Elways, Blue & Orange and such??!!!!!
What a nightmare to see our precious MHR all black and silver!!
Anybody got the guts? Sign up here!!
Go Broncos!!
BTW Good post Langford.
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
I already have man
He told me about your bet and asked if I wanted in on it. I agreed to it, but instead of him having to keep the picture up for an extra week (during a time when we’re thinking more about the Titans and Bengals instead of the Raiders), he agreed to wear it for the week leading up to our 2nd matchup. I thought that was genius =)
Confucious says: It's pretty tough to intercept a pitch in the backfield.
To the eye candy in the back: Sorry Rahim. Sorry Goody. Not now Vaughn. With only 35 pass yards to WRs this year (1's v 1's), Elvis and Von aren't giving you the chance to 'see ball, get ball'. Poor guys :=(
I think we need to hear from a few more Raiders fans... this could grow epic over the next week
Too bad we couldn’t get MHR v SnB Pride to make the bet!
Can you imagine the skull in Blue and Orange?
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 7, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
This game just can’t get here soon enough!
Confucious says: It's pretty tough to intercept a pitch in the backfield.
To the eye candy in the back: Sorry Rahim. Sorry Goody. Not now Vaughn. With only 35 pass yards to WRs this year (1's v 1's), Elvis and Von aren't giving you the chance to 'see ball, get ball'. Poor guys :=(
I'm in.
"tough times call for perseverance and a tough mind. I have been told that I can't play football before. We all know what happened with that. #neverquit"--Mark Herzlich
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Any predictions for tomorrow ladies? I say packers 21-17
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 7, 2011 6:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Packers 31-17
They are going to be fired up and overwhelming. I’m smelling blowout.
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Sep 7, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I think veldheer will hold up. DMc will have a big game. And we have Chaz back
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 7, 2011 6:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If boss is a no-go, who starts?? Myers or ausberry? I wants ausberry
by RaiderKilluminati on Sep 7, 2011 6:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Aus In The RedZone Or On 3rd Dns....
Gordon can block too for the run game and has some hands too…Surprise weapon….
One to look out for in the RedZone….“RT”!!!
anybody read Michael Lombardis blue/red chip article?!
He went through and ranked players at each position with red chips and blue chips, red being good and blue being elite. He has us tied for last in the point system with 0 blue chips and 1 red chip for Richard Seymour! What a joke! You gotta at the very least have McFadden on the list. Bullshit article to say it nicely.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 7, 2011 7:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No doubt, MAK
DMC isn’t getting enough credit. He is a top 5 back easy. The only question is his health. Also, I think Kelly played himself into a red chip last season.
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.
by Rich Langford on Sep 7, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
anybody read Michael Lombardis blue/red chip article?!
He went through and ranked players at each position with red chips and blue chips, red being good and blue being elite. He has us tied for last in the point system with 0 blue chips and 1 red chip for Richard Seymour! What a joke! You gotta at the very least have McFadden on the list. Bullshit article to say it nicely.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Sep 7, 2011 7:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
heh heh Several blue chips on your team if you could add that blue to some orange on their uniform!!
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 7, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Lombardis' an idiot, don't sweat him.
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 7, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Now Your Supportin Baby!!
But if you add more Raiders you either have to add more Broncos or add the week of our 2nd meeting to yourselves!!!
Nick Miller is over kill
He makes catches, but he doesn’t break many tackles either in the return game or while receiving the ball. What’s worst, I’ve seen him run 2 yard patterns on 3rd and 4. We have better WR ahead of him. He should be on the bubble if anyone else comes in. Hagen shouldn’t even be mentioned as a bubble player at this point, he has shown play making abilities all pre-season long. he deserves the chance. If it’s Cartwright that goes, I think Hagen or another young player can step in to fill that ST position.
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