Oakland Raiders Head Coach Open Thread

I dont think a rook hc can win the locker room

but if he can do any the things you listed related to discipline and respect and leadership, I’m all for him being our next coach. The staff he brings with him will be very important, as well.

I’m not sure where or why we need a WR on offense, but we definitely need depth at guard and center. Wiz is our center for the next 7 years, Veldheer is our LT for the same period. Carlisle and Satele should only stay if we go back to the ZBS full-on. Heyer, and Barksdale had their moments, and I still don’t know what to make of Bruce Campbell.

The defense is a mess and full of big, and in most cases, unwarranted contracts. With the money Al tied up in Kelly, Seymour, Routt, Wimbley, and Huff we should have have a top 5 D. I don’t know how much to blame on Bresnahan or injuries, but I can see all four being asked to renegotiate or get cut, though I think Seymour and Wimbley are safe if we go to a 3-4, and Huff and Routt are intriguing players given the right scheme. Branch will likely command good money on the open market, too.

I’m not really for or against Winston Moss as our next head coach, but we have some time before we can interview him, and McKenzie has contacts with multiple former head coaches from Holmgren, Rhodes, Sherman, and McCarthy’s staffs not to mention other teams with which he interacted in his nearly 20 years in Green Bay.

If McKenzie does bring in Moss to be the HC then the OC position becomes a critical choice as we have some serious talent on that side of the ball and they need a strong creative mind on that side of the ball.

I’ll never be a big Fisher fan, and I hope he’s not even on our radar. If we’re going for established but non-Super Bowl winning coaches, I’d rather look at Schottenheimer, Dom Capers, Mike Sherman, Steve Mariuci, Two Turtle Doves, and Mike Nolan in a pear tree…

Good luck, rams

Or something close to it. Nothing wrong with becoming Packers West.

but the Winston Moss assumption, to me, is lazy. It’s not like McKenzie has only been in Green Bay with Thompson and McCarthy, he’s been there since 1994 when Brett Favre was only “okay” and Holmgren had numerous future head coaches on his staff (Reid, Mariuci, Morhinweg, Ray Rhodes, Gruden, McCarthy, Mike Sherman, et al.)

I’m sure McKenzie has a large rolodex of coaches he can call, including some college coaches like Bo Pelini who was also on staff under Holmgren.

Then there’s the Dom Capers tree of defensive coaches, and he could go completely outside all that and hire a coach from any organization he’s admired as an opponent. Dungy’s staff in TB and Indy. Any coach under Sean Payton in N.O. or it could even be Brian Billick for fuck’s sake…who knows. I know he won’t be able to start feeling out his former Packers staff for at least another week, so he’s probably filling his “short list” with other presently available options.

Cowher would want full personnel control, and I think Dungy’s done coaching for good…

R.I.P Mr. Davis

And also, for the longest time we were told we couldn’t hire this big name or that big name coach because they wouldn’t get along with Al and such things. So how about now? And if not now, then when?

He’s seen how Wolf and Thompson worked with Holmgren and McCarthy to win championships. He’s not going to expect immediate results, and, after hiring a head coach, his next priority is going to be fixing the cap situation and trying to acquire some more draft picks.

Unless he brings in a complete dumpster fire at head coach who gets caught snorting coke off McFadden’s ass in the locker room, whoever he hires should get 3+ years to make it happen.

Moss is young enough and full of fire enough to be here for a long time and he wants to come home as did Reggie…That counts for allot of heart and commitment that some of the other candidates just won’t have…Especially if they view the Raiders as a stepping stone to their future jobs like Gruden obviously did!!!

it would be great to have these two guys coach our defense into it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1015642-oakland-raiders-7-best-replacements-for-chuck-bresnahan/page/9

and I wouldn’t really hate him as the Head Coach, either. I think he got a raw deal in SF, but the core of the team that’s hosting the Saints this week was put there by Nolan. I think he’s a better DC than head coach, though.

If Moss gets the HC job, though look for either Darren Perry or Kevin Greene to be his DC. He’ll bring someone from the Capers tree, might reach to the Steelers staff, too since LeBeau and Capers created the scheme together with some help from Cowher who was a helluva DC before he went to Pittsburgh in KC under Schottenheimer.

Nolan would be an outsider to the Moss/McKenzie Green Bay lovefest, though I wouldn’t rule out anyone right off the bat.

It’ll likely be a Walsh/Holmgren/Reid disciple which isn’t a terrible thing. Everyone seems to think the “West Coast Offense” is controlled, short passes, but but they stretch the field vertically, too. I’m saying we hire our guy early next month, even if it’s not Moss. We’ll interview coaches between now and when Moss becomes available, but likely won’t hire anyone until after Moss has a chance to interview…

Besides…. he can contact Mike Nolan now… lol

#4…It appears we will enter another period of reconstruction just when I thought we were approaching a period of just plug and play…To what extend we have to rebuild is as yet an unknown…Per this:

"Mark Davis has told me that he wants long-term success and we’re going to start it right now. To begin, we’re going to have to build and that’s where our mindset is and that’s where it is moving forward."

to be in the bill belichick, sean paytons, mike tomlins position. Its not the money, its the opportunity to be the main guy in charge to lead a group of men to the SB. Winston, if he wants to take a great chance at a clean slate, with a highly talented but raw team. To pass it up, means he loves where hes at and doesn’t mind being an assistant.

They molded after us and now we mold after them…This is just a reality in the NFL…What is working is what is copied and than what worked before is brought back and copied again and again by the multitudes…Rarely is there something new unless your a “TeButt Boy” and love that “Read-n-React” Bull Shit!!

was about controlled passing, but even he took his shots down the field. Holmgren did much the same thing in both Green Bay and Seattle. Reid uses Jackson and Maclin on vertical routes, too. The routes will depend on the coverage. If you’re getting a 10 yd cushion, run that hitch or slant, break a tackle and go the distance…if you’re getting pressed, beat the jam and go vertical…

But Jack doesn’t seem to have that offensive vision. He stuck with David Garrard way too long and could not develop a passing game.

but I don’t have any interest in him as a HC. He brought in Dirk Koetter to run his offense, and Dirk Koetter couldn’t coach his way out of a nutsack…

especially if we switch to the Dom Capers 3-4, since Woodson played in that system in Pittsburgh…but I doubt any of the existing coaches will be on the sidelines in September.

It should be a whole new staff…

just wants to spend time with his grand kids according to Mark.

This is a pipe dream of epic proportions and as unlikely as it is laughable

he has his hands in the organization, believe me he will give his advice as well.

I think the key to being the next successful HC for this team is first and foremost…a leader and apparently Moss is a very strong leader. I thought Hue had leadership qualities but it appears that power went straight to his head and his ego went through the roof. I actually like the idea of a defensive minded HC as long as we get a very strong and experienced OC.

We have 3 LBs that have the potential to become really solid players and a guy like Moss seems to be the type that could help them take the next steps in their games.

Moss being the next HC is just speculation at this point and we don’t really know what kind of GM McKenzie is yet so it’s hard to get a handle on what kind of coaches he favors.

enough to know that Giants fans would be more than happy to let you guys have Perry Fewell.

And, I think they would laugh at the idea of him as a head coach.

I could well be wrong, but, as I said, I visit their site enough (even when we aren’t playing them) and that’s the impression that I get.

Don’t forget the third musketeer that makes all the magic happen

30 seconds. GB’s Offense is there Defense, and whatever stop the defense does, is bonus.