Oakland Raiders On the Right Track with Todd Bowles Interview
by Rich Langford on Jan 11, 2012 9:04 PM PST
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PrintOut with the old and in with the new—the Oakland Raiders scheduled Todd Bowles in for an interview. Bowles was recently employed as the Miami Dolphins interim head coach, and interviewed for that position at the end of the season.
Bowles is currently a hot commodity, and is drawing interest from several teams. The Dolphins went 2-1 after he took over the helm at the end of this season.
He has spent his NFL coaching career working with the defensive backfield. From what I can tell, he has never called plays in the NFL. That means Bowles is not going to come tied to a specific system. It also means that the Raiders will also have to hire a high quality defensive coordinator.
I have no idea if Bowles will get the job or not, but I do know that I like the fact he is coming in for an interview. I want a defensive minded head coach, and judging by this interview it appears as if McKenzie is thinking along the same lines.
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he would be a good college coach
with that last name but seriously no rook HC. Im all for giving new coaches a shot but not in this scenario and not right now. The team is in a fragile state and they need someone that can guide the ship to the promise land and not into disaster and have the team fall apart. The players need a proven leader that will win their respect and trust. Put yourself in their shoes. Who wants to play for a giant question mark. No one.
I hope not
Nothing against the man, I just don’t really want another rookie head coach. It’s getting painful making the excuse, “It is just his first year, next time he’ll get the call right.” I change my statement, I would “prefer” he not win the job. If he does, such is life.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM PST reply actions
Its all the Hubris apologists and members of the board that make the "it's his first year" bullshit excuse
IMO if your the coach your the head coach no excuses.
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Well you need continuity to succeed in the NFL.
You cannot fire coaches on a whim because they fail in 1 year. You’ve got to remember the locker room is frail and undisciplined when this happens. Players are like: “fuck it, this guy may not be here next year, why buy into this new program again.” You need a guy who they will see next year because we must prove it and make it happen. Roles expand with years under the same regime and teams evolve into Elite teams.
The RaiderLaker
I can't disagree with
but this is also dependant on knowing you have the right guy.
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Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
Your hate of Hubris aside
Continuity is important. First year coaches often suffer from a terrible beginning before they blossom. Harbaugh is succeeding right now because a) that Niner defense was already pretty damn good, b) he had head coaching experience at the college level in Stanford for a few years, and c) he wasn’t a terrible offensive player in his day and knew how the NFL worked. He is a damn good coach right now and I wanted the Raiders to take him, but the Niners snatched him up first. Pete Carroll by contrast was a great college coach but a horribly mediocre NFL coach. Belichek wasn’t a top notch coach when he entered the league either, but over time, well you saw what happened. The first year for true 1st time head coaches is difficult and made worse with injuries and impatient owners. In a win now league, first time coaches have it rough. It isn’t a Hue apology, its a first year coach apology for guys that aren’t terrible. Cable wasn’t this good his first year but we gave him a small chance. Hue got no such luxury but by all means wasn’t undeserving of his firing either. Still, I would have preferred he got one more shot to right some wrongs. Who has it worse, the QB or the Coach? Both get all the blame and all the praise, but the difference is that mostly everyone gives a QB plenty of time to show progress but the coach is easily replaceable.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 12, 2012 1:55 AM PST up reply actions
Damn man, did Hue like piss on your cornflakes or something
I get that you didn’t think he was the guy for the job, but the hate has gotten a little over the top. He’s gone, just let it go.
im guessing hue and carson pissed on it
he hates them both. but with Hue gone carson will get all his hate now lol
I would rather have an experienced HC
But most of the rumors point to coordinators or position coaches with no HC experience (mostly Packers coaches). I would be 100% behind the move if the brought Mike Nolan along to be his DC.
I wouldn't mind but...
If we hire a rookie coach who hasn’t had any experience at the head coaching position, we should’ve just kept Hubert! I much rather we get someone with a lot of experience but Reggie did say he didn’t care if he had experience or not. At least we seen what he did the last 3-4 games with the Fins! So I wouldn’t mind but I think were just testing the waters!
by Tha E on Jan 11, 2012 10:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Bowles interview a month ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QblbLh8WIE8
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 PM PST reply actions
Wow! This guy is the anti Hue
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
by Rich Langford on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'll check his Caveat Index and report
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
"Let no thing possess you that you do not dictate." Raymond St. Martin
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 12, 2012 6:56 AM PST up reply actions
Caveat Index of one (1) ... there's a relief
Born in New Jersey and played High School football there, played college ball at Temple in Philadelphia, then played eight years in the NFL (started in SB XXII) … then six years as a secondary coach (Dallas & Miami).
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
"Let no thing possess you that you do not dictate." Raymond St. Martin
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 12, 2012 7:02 AM PST up reply actions
Send this McKenzie so he doesn't let him out of the building after he interviews.
The more I see of Bowles, the more I like him. If he could land a solid D coordinator (Nolan?) and keep Saunders, I’d be content
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
by Rich Langford on Jan 12, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
So would I
If we could keep the same offense from this season and add a Mike Nolan as our DC we could be playoff ready next year.
For all the bitching and sniveling about Carson and the offense…it was clearly the defense that was the weak link on the team and the unit that let us down!
Even if we would have some how made the playoffs our defensive unit would not have been capable enough to allowed us to advance too far in said playoffs.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Quite. Soft-spoken, low-key, humble, matter of fact, strong jaw-line
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"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 12, 2012 7:04 AM PST up reply actions
I like him
if he promises to bring Mike Nolan with him I’d like him a lot more.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
that would be a big plus for him if he can't get Nolan here as well.
If he’s the HC then he will need very strong coordinators.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 12, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
strong jaw line???
That is a measure of a hc because?
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jan 12, 2012 9:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hahah!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
"Let no thing possess you that you do not dictate." Raymond St. Martin
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Now that you mention it. But my comment was about contrast with Hue
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"George Blanda ... I really believe he is the greatest clutch player in the history of this game." Al Davis
"Let no thing possess you that you do not dictate." Raymond St. Martin
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
I would rather have an offensive mind for HC.
You can always hire a good DC.
A good HC is rarely found in a DC being promoted.
Bill Belichek being one of the exceptions.
Paul Brown, the man credited with the modern day offense, inspired many great players and coaches over the years he coached. Many of these went on to be HC’s and continued the offensive influence over their assistants.
The following coaches either coached under or played for Paul Brown and were influenced at least to some degree by him and his football knowledge and offensive system:
Blanton Collier (coach under Paul Brown)
Weeb Ewbank (coach under Paul Brown)
Abe Gibron (player)
Sid Gillman (coach)
Otto Graham (player for Paul Brown)
Bill “Tiger” Johnson (coach under Paul Brown)
Chuck Noll (player for Paul Brown)
Ara Parseghian (player for Paul Brown)
Lou Saban (player for Paul Brown)
Don Shula (player for Paul Brown)
Bill Walsh (coach under Paul Brown)
Bruce Coslet (player and head coach under team President Paul Brown)
Sam Wyche (player and head coach under team President Paul Brown)
As you can see, the success radiates throughout this list.
Each one of these has their own “tree” of coaches they influenced.
For example:Sid Gilman’s influence on the modern game can be seen by listing the current and former coaches and executives who either played with him or coached for him:
Al LoCasale, an Oakland Raiders executive
Al Davis, former owner of the Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
Chuck Noll, who coached the Pittsburgh Steelers to four Super Bowl titles
Ara Parseghian, former coach at the University of Notre Dame
Bo Schembechler, former coach at the University of Michigan
Bill Walsh, who coached the San Francisco 49ers to three Super Bowl titles
Chuck Knox, former coach of several NFL teams
Dick Vermeil, coached the St. Louis Rams to a Super Bowl title
George Allen, coach of the Rams and Washington Redskins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gillman_Coaching_Tree.gif
coaches considered to be in Lou Saban’s coaching tree include:
Marty Schottenheimer
Joe Collier
Cam Cameron
Bill Cowher
Herm Edwards
Tony Dungy
Marvin Lewis
Ken Whisenhunt
Lovie Smith
Rod Marinelli
Mike Tomlin
Sam Rutigliano
Bill Walsh :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Walsh_Coaching_Tree3.png
You get the picture. Not all are offensive minded coaches, but they learned their craft from an offensive “mind”.
Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.
-Mike Tyson
THEN there are only really 1 possibilitiy
and Cowher who retired aint coming Gruden got fired so that dont make him all that successful. Lets face it, if the veteran coach they bring in was successful he would not be unemployed.
by Canadian Raider on Jan 12, 2012 3:22 AM PST up reply actions
All successful coaches have been fired at one time or another
and all have been unemployed at one time or another so that doesn’t leave you with many or any choices.
Time to re-adjust your thinking
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
NOT ME
I am open to a first year coach ALSO yes I realize all the coaches have been fired at 1 time or another but any that are not currently working cannot be all that successful…if they were someone would have paid them enough to come in…… and if you don’t mind I will decide what I think and when its time to adjust my thinking …..Thanks
by Canadian Raider on Jan 12, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
No problem
but to say someone out there that isn’t working now cannot be successful later is ridiculous.
Bellichick was terrible at Cleveland and was out of work before being hired to run the Pats ship and he turned out to be very successful.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
really?
so right now to my count there are 3 superbowl winning coaches available who are young enough to come in…Gruden,who won with another guys team and knew the plays his opposition were using in the Superbowl,and could not get it done the first time he was here…..Cowher who says no to almost any availabile opening …..and Jimmie Johnston who will never leave his boat or Fox to come here. Now while I may be missing a few successful names, and it could be argued whether or not Fisher is successful,How many other successful and by that I mean Superbowl or winning coaches are unemployed right now?
by Canadian Raider on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 AM PST up reply actions
BTW
your point to say" but to say someone out there that isn’t working now cannot be successful later is ridiculous." Also could be translated to a NOOB which as I stated I am not opposed to.I am well aware of the Belechik career.Likewise I agree that there are coaches who can be brought in. The point I am trying to make is with those who don’t want a new coach based on the learning curve they say he will make mistakes.Obviously any unemployed coach has made his share of mistakes as well. I would much prefer a new coach over some tired old retread. That was the point I was attempting to make.I am not hard and fast on it I just want a great coach for a long time..and a return to our dominance in this league.
by Canadian Raider on Jan 13, 2012 3:12 AM PST up reply actions
I can agree with you on this point
and if we get a guy that has never been a head coach before we have to realize that he may make some of those rookie mistakes and not to call for his head the second he makes one.
What this team needs more than anything is continuity at the head coaching position. I didn’t really want Hue to go for just that reason, but he is gone and whoever Reggie hires to replace him Noob or “retread” that guy has to be given the time to implement his system.
Enough of this hiring a guy for three years and firing him after one.
Hire the guy for three years and give him three years to make it work. If he can’t get it done in three( and by get it done I mean making us a perennial playoff team) then he’ll have to be evaluated on his merits up to that point in the decision to keep him on or once again start over with a new HC.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Probably none
but there is that stat floating out there that says a Super Bowl winning coach has never duplicated that feat with another team.
All I’m saying is a guy with experience as a head coach that has learned from the mistakes that got him fired in the past might be out there and ready to take his next team to the promise land..like Belichick did with the Pats.
Also one guy (even the head coach) can’t do it alone. It takes a whole organization and I believe Reggie realizes this and is striving toward that goal.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
One candidate not mentioned here...
Brian Billick.
He has a winning record, 85-67
a Superbowl Ring 2000 with less talent than the Raiders have now.
And the price on him should have dropped quite a bit after not coaching for the past 5 years.
Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.
-Mike Tyson
I am not opposed to first year head coach
But I think I prefer Winston Moss over Bowles.
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TELL YOU ALL RIGHT NOW!
I could care less who the HC is as long as AL SAUNDERS stays!!! The offense needs to be run by someone who knows what plays make this O run!
I Have To Agree...I Think It's Lame To Let Our "OC" Go And Have To Start Over On The "O"...
That “O” is already a top 10 unit…(#9)….Why risk it going into the dumper???
But Reggie said he will let his new “HC” hires his own staff???…The only hope here is that he does bring in a “D” mined “HC” who wants that strong running “O” on the field which makes it easier on his “D” than a pass happy risky game plan that prolley makes allot of mistakes…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Todd Bowles May Make A Damn Good "DC" Under Moss???
Not really excited about him as “HC” but he does have a little experience so also not a lame pick…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I have no problem with a rookie HC
REGGIE IS STARTING OVER….if he brings in a new guy he does,I have no control over it .I am more concerned with the DC anyway.This team needs a DC if we had that we would have won this year in spite of Hues bad game management
by Canadian Raider on Jan 12, 2012 3:26 AM PST reply actions
new coach
It wouldn’t be a wise choice to select Bowles. He has little experience as a coach and untested as a full force head coach. So he had a good showing down a stretch but so did Cable in 2010 and Jackson along mid season. Jackson should have finished fairly and gotten us into the play off w/o question but failed. It was very disappointing to see it happend. Deep down I anticipated it but could not get myself to tell close die hard Raider fans. When I saw Jackson in the locker room speaking out to players after a win I felt he needed to pep up the spice a bit with a little fire-to show that he was in command. but, he lacked this which ,to me, gave me the feeling that he lacked confidance. If it were me as GM I would have kept Jackson and go into the next phase. I would have sat down w/him and show him what was needed and expected of him. I would have turned him into a winner at best!
id rather he try to get nick saban
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by The MoonMan 804 on Jan 12, 2012 3:41 AM PST reply actions
The man who sold us Renaldo?!
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 12, 2012 7:05 AM PST up reply actions
and the guy that abandoned Miami?
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
id rather he try to get nick saban
"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Coach Hue Jackson
"I felt there was need for a change at the head coaching position, We're moving into a new era. No disrespect to coach Jackson but this was something I wanted to do, start anew." [O.R.G.M] - Reggie Mckenzie
Raider Nation..........we need all hand's on deck or get the hell off the ship! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If trading away a couple of first round draft picks can get you a proven franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer and a legitimate shot at going to the playoffs, then fine...............you know why? Because this team is standing behind it's motto & legacy, "Just Win Baby!" and "Commitment to Excellence" instead of "Suck for Luck" & "Give Up". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that.......
Cheers,
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by The MoonMan 804 on Jan 12, 2012 3:42 AM PST reply actions
As A HC?
no. As as defensive coordinator sure. Too young and have no experience at calling plays from a offensive stand point. Al Saunders, our OC would confuse this man. The playbook would do wonders around this guy. Thats just my opinon though, all i read was from this blog, that he was 2-1 so im not sure how valuable he is. From the looks of it though it seems like everyone is going after him, which means he must be REALLY good. http://www.kffl.com/player/11519/NFL
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I haven't heard of much interest this year in Bowles
I read the Rams were interested but never scheduled an interview. He interviewed for the Cowboys job but that can be chalked up the Rooney rule. I like this guy as a coach…just not as a HC. If we are going to go with a rookie HC then I say lets go with Moss.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 12, 2012 4:19 AM PST up reply actions
You don't have to call plays
Saunders could call the plays and Bowles could focus on the Defense.
The more I think about what’s happened I see this becoming a huge possibility.
We know that the offense is good, bordering on great. McKenzie gets himself a defensive minded, charismatic coach, along with a DC that’s on the same page already. Leave Al Saunders to call the plays.
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 12, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
yeah but the point is
Bowles as a HC, not as an assistant
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Jan 14, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
I'm under the mindset
That Nolan would be coming with Bowles
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I really like the idea of a defensive minded head coach in Oakland
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Agreed
It’s time to get all this talent on defense to play as a unit instead as individuals.
We could really use a strong coaching staff this season…we have talent all over the roster but we need the right people to harness that talent and bring these men together. Hue talked the talk but never walked the walk in that regard.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 12, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
It's hit or miss for first year coaches as well as experienced coaches
For every john harbaugh who succeeds you get a “proven” mike shanahan who fails (so far). I dont want a guy just because hes coached before. Bill cowher? Ok. A wade phillips/herm edwards? No.
former hcs on the free agent list include 3 types of guys – older mediocre coaches (I’m thinking romeo crennel types), no thanks. Previously successful guys (cowher, gruden), I don’t think we’re going that direction. Younger guys who busted out for one reason or another and will get another chance at some point (del rio).
I think we are looking at a rookie coach here. Someone reggie wants to start with and work with for 15 years. All signs point to moss. I’d be ok with it. KEEP SAUNDERS as oc. Bring in nolan or del rio at dc.
other thoughts. I finally got a chance to watch the presser. It’s been said before but i have to put my 2 cents in: I am a bit nervous about handing the keys to the franchise to a guy who can’t put a coherent sentence together. Ill reserve judgment but I can’t say I liked what I saw.
Mark davis, on the other hand, contrary to that bag of dicks mike silvers opinion, doesnt strike me as being “over his head” at all. I thought he was funny, intelligent and engaging. He was born with a lottery ticket. He knows it. and he knows he needs a lot of help to run it.
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by lchristmas on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
is bowles better as hc or dc
Think he would work as our dc with a experienced hc not sure about having another rookie hc
by uk_raider91 on Jan 12, 2012 7:21 AM PST via mobile reply actions
as a DC
too much pressure for a young guy to train other young guys. we need a veteran.
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Jan 14, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Give us Marty.....
Always gets his teams to the playoffs. Just has been unlucky in the playoffs. We will without a doubt, be a playoff team with him!
Al would claw his way out of his grave
Seriously, I am not a slave to raider tradition, but fuck that guy. Fuck him with a sharp stick.
by lchristmas on Jan 12, 2012 9:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure about this one
It looks like McKenzie may be wanting a head coach who isnt going to really run either side of the ball, but rather just lead the whole team. While I have no problem with that, success will require rock solid coordinators. Just havent seen enough of Bowles to judge him. Miami has a good group of players IMO, so I’m cautious on giving much credit to Bowles.
You got to be kidding me?
Bowles? In a league that is now designed for and dominated by high powered offenses winning Super Bowls, why do you jettison your offensive guru coach and dismantle your own high powered offense to go with a defensive assistant DB’s coach to run your show?
So we finally get a top 10 offense after years and years of futility and we scrap it to get a defensive backs coach so he can move the team back to a defense first approach?
Maybe when the defense gets good again in a few years, we can scrap that plan too and work to build up the offense again?
This is a way better plan than just keeping our top 10 offense and adding a few players on defense and a Nolan or Del Rio.
We need
Someone in Hue’s aspect of listening to what his players excel at, that’s one thing I loved about his coaching. He wasn’t there telling them to just do as I tell you, but took in what they felt they were good at and used that in his play calling. The couple years of trying to smash McFadden into the line repeatedly made him look terrible. Hue came along and look at what happened, other than the injuries <.< A lot of the players on offense broke out. As long as we get someone that isn’t trying to force their shit to work regardless of personnel abilities.
Rawr!
Don't really know anything about Bowles.
I’d probably prefer Moss over him, if only due to GB’s success. I’m pretty willing to give any guy a chance to prove himself, aside from anyone who has been a DC for us over the last decade. I never want any of them near this team again. Well, at least not Rob Ryan or Chuck.
GB's success is due to their offense
Defense has left a lot to be desired.
Their defense has it's ups and downs
But they also make plays when it matters. But this season a lot of defenses looked pretty crappy.
Madden
From Linebackers Coach to HC without previous experience. Also, do not discount college experience. Game Management, locker room presence, and much else can be developed at the college level.
what do you guys think about Herm Edwards?
he seems to be a good motivator. He motivates me everytime I see him on ESPN and he was fired up coaching that all-star High School game. It looked like he missed coaching. If he has solid OC and DC i think he could be a good fit
I will start with Hue, I personally felt he should NOT have been fired, he is a first year Head Coach...
His staff could have been adjusted, now we learn a new system on both sides of the ball..We’re screwed…All the players on this blog will know what I am talking about, especially when our defensive talent is NOT up to par, its not as if the new coach is inheriting a great team, ie Mike Tomlin, Pittsburg, George Siefert, 49ers… The Raiders were a team trying to find themselves under a new coach with a great offensive mind, I consider losing Hue a loss for our Offense. So, McKenzie comes in losing points with me, he now has even more work to do.. Quite frankly, I am ready to win now…My hopes are that McKenzie has a plan because right now, it’s ugly.
Bowles is just one of many I am sure that will be interviewed, going 2-1 means nothing, you need a full season to know if a guy can stomach being a head coach. I do hope we look at Mike Nolan as Defensive Coordinator if we stick to the 3-4, he’s about the best at it….There are many great candidates for Head Coach Bowles being one, I would like to see who else they look at…Go Raiders
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 12, 2012 3:03 PM PST reply actions
People keep mentioning Nolan,
But what makes anyone think Miami wants to let him go? Did they already dump him or do people just assume “new head coach, new everything else”?
Yep that's it
New coach = new everything else.
So really were just hoping that Nolan will be available.
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Okay, gotcha
I certainly wouldn’t mind having him. He’d be a HUGE upgrade.
i think it is typical
for it to be allowed to change teams if it is a vertical move (ie more resposibility) and not a horizontal one (ie same position)
by heartstopper on Jan 12, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Same
but i figured his style of coaching caused all this rukus. We will not blink bs talk got all our fans to the game. His words is motivating and moving. Thats why we sold out ALL GAMES at home this year. Hue talks a lot but does nothing about it. Penalties was hurting us from the beginning and he said he will fix it? How? By being the record? No excuse but where is the discipline on the players? Hue doesn’t have a backbone, basically afraid to sit his players out of a game to show them some discipline.
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Jan 14, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I like Mike Nolan as Defensive Coordinator..NOT HEAD COACH....Just want to point that out...
I think Mike is a fine defensive mind, however, I wouldn’t want him to be the Head Coach.. When he focuses on Defense he is one of the best…
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 12, 2012 4:59 PM PST reply actions
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