WE WANT CHUCKY!
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There have been many names that have come out over the last few days such as the early favourite Winston Moss, Dom Capers, Todd Bowles, Joe Philbin and apparently the Packers locker room attendant is also scheduled for an interview.
But there is one man that also has a history with the Packers and our new GM Reggie McKenzie and he is a man that the Raider Nation holds above all else aside from the great Al Davis.
This man is................

JON GRUDEN!
Jon Gruden loves the Raider Nation and the Raider Nation loves him. Gruden is the last coach to bring lasting success to the mighty Oakland Raiders and his loss is a loss that we are still reeling from but all the wrongs can be righted with his home coming.
The above photo was taken in 2009 when Chucky made a surprise appearance at Raider Nation Mecca Ricky's sports bar and this is a quote from a good Raider man who was in attendance on that day:
"Actually two years ago.chucky showed.up.at the san leandro california raiders sports bar RICKYS..all dressed up in raiders gear and few fans said we want you back and GRUDENS exact words was...i love you guys once a raider, always a raider...money can buy out any contract and if the circumstances were different I would love to be back with the raider nation."
Full gallery of Gruden's Ricky's visit can be found here: http://www.rickys.com/jon-gruden/
Also yesterday on Sirius:
Rich Gannon said on Sirius NFL Radio today that he believes the Oakland job is the one job that could pull Jon Gruden from the broadcasting booth. He also stated that Madden has a great relationship with Jon Gruden and could be the one to get him to come back to Oakland. (from bleacher report)
Many of us have stated the opinion that we need an experienced head coach after going through Rookie after Rookie and there would be none better than the man who has built a winner here before and would command instant respect in the locker room in which he has unfinished business.
Chucky is a brilliant motivator and innovative offensive head coach and bring him back would signal to the NFL that the Raiders mean business and would certainly lead to Oakland once again becoming a destination of choice for great players.
The other benefit of bringing in Chucky is that it surely would be a great boost for the push for a new stadium and nobody would instill instant credibility to the New Raiders than our favourite son.

PLEASE REGGIE LISTEN TO THE NATION - WE WANT CHUCKY!
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Oz back on the front page woot woooot! :)
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by Rich Langford on Jan 13, 2012 12:14 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
hahaha
thanks Noon.
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now that is funny !
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
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I like Gruden but before we get too excited name me 1 superbowl champion coach who was ever able to win a superbowl with a different franchise
lightning has never struck the same coach twice with different teams has it ??
I believe you're correct.
Looking at Wikipedia seems to show that no HC has won it with two different teams. Looks like 5 have made it with different teams: Shula, Dan Reeves, Parcells, Holmgren, and Dick Vermeil
The Tuna???
Super Bowl wins 1990 Super Bowl XXV
1986 Super Bowl XXI
Championships won 1996 AFC Championship
1990 NFC Championship
1986 NFC Championship
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Oh!!...Both Pacells Wins Were With The NYG!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
haha
well done Oz
"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Hue Jackson (was our best coach in a decade and was fired after his first season ended 8-8 with a chance to make the playoffs.
"I felt it was time for a change at the head coaching position, We're moving into a new era of commitment and expectations here. No disrespect to coach Hue Jackson but this was something I wanted to do, start anew." [O.R.G.M] - Reggie Mckenzie
Raider Nation..........we need all hand's on deck or get the hell off the ship! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If trading away a couple of first round draft picks can get you a proven franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer and a legitimate shot at going to the playoffs, then fine...............you know why? Because this team is standing behind it's motto & legacy, "Just Win Baby!" and "Commitment to Excellence" instead of "Suck for Luck" & "Give Up". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that.......
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by The MoonMan 804 on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 AM PST up reply actions
you too bud
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 20, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I love Gruden!
That said, I’m not sure I want him to come back. I’d be excited as hell, but worried the magic wouldn’t come with him. You can never go home again.
They charged me 15 dollars. That's how much it costs to only have 20 dollars.
I guess the difference between this and some of the other 'home comings' like Joe Gibbs
Is that Jon is still a young man and is still very much plugged in to modern football so it is not an old guy returning to a young mans league. Jon also has the passion and intensity that resonates with todays players and being as the we have such a young team I feel like his personality would really resonate with our young team.
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#1
"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Hue Jackson (was our best coach in a decade and was fired after his first season ended 8-8 with a chance to make the playoffs.
"I felt it was time for a change at the head coaching position, We're moving into a new era of commitment and expectations here. No disrespect to coach Hue Jackson but this was something I wanted to do, start anew." [O.R.G.M] - Reggie Mckenzie
Raider Nation..........we need all hand's on deck or get the hell off the ship! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If trading away a couple of first round draft picks can get you a proven franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer and a legitimate shot at going to the playoffs, then fine...............you know why? Because this team is standing behind it's motto & legacy, "Just Win Baby!" and "Commitment to Excellence" instead of "Suck for Luck" & "Give Up". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that.......
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by The MoonMan 804 on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 AM PST up reply actions
After further looking at these pics
and remembering his awesome mix as run and pass, I have changed my mind! I WANT CHUCKY!
I'm mad as hell!
by Rich Langford on Jan 13, 2012 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
Can you just imagine how electric it would be!!!!!
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You know what else?
It would also throw Silver’s reasoning behind Hue’s firing down the shitter
I'm mad as hell!
by Rich Langford on Jan 13, 2012 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
absolutely
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if it happened I would be blowing up his twitter like nothing he has ever experienced lol
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back in 2004
that statement would have been regrettable….
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 AM PST up reply actions
XD
hahaha
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these times they are a changin'...
back in my day, if you went to school in your PJs you were considered insane.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 2:21 AM PST up reply actions
wow
I only own PJ’s
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I freeball.
Deal with it, AMERICA.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 3:07 AM PST up reply actions
XD
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I would have to lay down a tarp
FOR THE MIND EXPLOSION!
(if he gets hired.))
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
hahaha
good call!
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other head.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 AM PST up reply actions
You can go home again, if you've got unfinished business to attend to!
He’s got a Super Bowl to win here, for him, for us and for the “Greatness of the Raiders”!
Jon Gruden is definitely my number one choice to be the next Raider Head Coach and honestly, I’m really having a hard time picturing anyone else in the job.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
we would definately
have the most back up qbs in the league
haha
"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Hue Jackson (was our best coach in a decade and was fired after his first season ended 8-8 with a chance to make the playoffs.
"I felt it was time for a change at the head coaching position, We're moving into a new era of commitment and expectations here. No disrespect to coach Hue Jackson but this was something I wanted to do, start anew." [O.R.G.M] - Reggie Mckenzie
Raider Nation..........we need all hand's on deck or get the hell off the ship! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If trading away a couple of first round draft picks can get you a proven franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer and a legitimate shot at going to the playoffs, then fine...............you know why? Because this team is standing behind it's motto & legacy, "Just Win Baby!" and "Commitment to Excellence" instead of "Suck for Luck" & "Give Up". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that.......
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by The MoonMan 804 on Jan 13, 2012 3:20 AM PST up reply actions
Gruden = Beast
Chucky will be back, and we will be in action once again.
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I've always liked Gruden, but.......
I won’t hold my breath on his return. I did like his offensive balance and his scrunched face when he got mad at the refs or players. It was funny stuff. He would bring some passion to the sideline. And he knows QB’s pretty well (shit look what he did with Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson). Still, the less stressful life of an announcer may just keep him away. Time will tell.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 13, 2012 1:09 AM PST reply actions
Big Mc said...........
he was “bringing in a new era in Oaklan, an era of change.”I dont think he sees bringing back an old coach as" change".it might be nice,but I dont think it will happen.the HC will be one of 2 people.Al Saunders(with Winston Moss comming in as DC and assistent HC)or Winston Moss as HC.I think Moss is one GB loss away from being on the next thing smoking to Oakland.
"The time is now"
Hue Jackson
Mark "SuperCuts" Davis is being a total buzzkill.
He will NAY this decision because Chucky knows that Mark is a football retard compared to his dad. Any hope of former staff is GONE because they wont respect mark or take him seriously, thanks to his dad.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 1:17 AM PST reply actions
I take it you read that absolute crap that ass clown Mike Silver wrote
anyone how takes that shit for gospel is an idiot.
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Who's Mike Silver?
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 AM PST up reply actions
The ass clown who wrote that drivel on yahoo
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O.....K.
My source was Bill Callahan. I was eavesdropping once on a conversation he had some guy from a sports blog when he was with Nebraska. He said he wasn’t sure if Mark could take over if anything were to happen to Al because he wasn’t as knowledgeable or respected as his father.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 2:07 AM PST up reply actions
and I happened to be in a truck stop in florida and overheard John Madden saying to Mike Tirico
that he though Mark Davis would be fine as long as he hired an excellent GM to run the football operation……
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You can always hire a GM...
but the owners will ALWAYS want to control everything but their egos.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 2:24 AM PST up reply actions
i think that is a bit of an over generalisation
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Mark seems pretty content
To hire someone to run his shit, and lie back with a cocktail on a giant pile of money.
I see nothing of the egomaniac control freak in him at all. I liked him at the presser. Funny, self deprecating, smart in that “I’ve never had to work” way. He isn’t going to try to be his dad hes made it clear.
I’m on board with Return of Chucky.
by lchristmas on Jan 13, 2012 6:50 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
Haha, you should have heard the shit Al said about Callahan
No mikev, no peace
Know mikev, know peace
compared to al davis
Everyone is a retard about football. He forgot more about football than any of us will ever learn. Mark seems like.a decent guy with the good sense to hire smart football people so let’s not compare him to his father.
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by RDreamer on Jan 13, 2012 9:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yup
This “over his head stuff” is nonsense. All you have to be able to do to be a good owner is hire the right people, get out of the way, and write checks. You probably dont even have to write the checks yourself, how would I know?
by lchristmas on Jan 13, 2012 6:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe, maybe not
I think it might depend on if Reggie likes the idea or not. Could Chucky do the job? HELL YEAH HE COULD! But he would have to want to do so and Reggie and John Madden would have to sell it. Despite all the negative aspects of his going to TB and beating us in the SB I would LOVE to have Chucky back! The problem is I dont think it’s likely. Not necessarily because of that piece of crap that Silver wrote but because I really dont think he wants to, and because I kinda doubt Reggie wants him.
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
And DAMN Mark needs a new haircut!
the Ginger Moe needs to go!
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
You mean the Bucky Larson....Bwahahahaha
"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson
by Ghost Raider on Jan 13, 2012 2:02 AM PST up reply actions
Or dare I say Bucky Davis
"Bad is Back, thanks be to the Antichrist" - George Atkinson
by Ghost Raider on Jan 13, 2012 2:02 AM PST up reply actions
Remember, this is a GROWN MAN with this haircut.
that alone loses him respect.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 2:08 AM PST up reply actions
So I'm A Grown Man Of 61 With A Pony Tail And Long Man-Shu...What Does That Make Me???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Found you!

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
LoL!!!...Looks Much Younger And Where's The Long Chin Hair???
But I do dig the dance!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
This Is As Grown Up As It Gets!!!

"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
What's Wrong With This???....

A large hank of long human hair is 800 B…$25….My wife has gotten rather good at braids and has offered to do me up…LoL!!…Why the hell Not I think!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
LoL!!!!....Now This Is Rather Funny...
Hope you don’t mind if I move my adverse testimony over to this thread…It’s getting lonely over there all alone!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Your post has been read acknowledged and discussed there is no reason to spam it everywhere.
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Well It Certainly Applies Here Does It Not???....Just The Copy Posted News Of That Day As In The Archives!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
It is relevant
but I am sure you can make your point without repeat posting ;)
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LOL
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Yes i can guess
but knowing you, should Chucky end up the head coach I guarantee within 24 hours you would have talked yourself in to it and and be all in!
XD
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Well....One Word Does Ring True...."Once A Raider Always A Raider"!!!...BUT:
There would be exception:
The “Rat” Shanny!!!
That Big Dumb “Sapp”!!!
“Hall-o-Mouth” Donte!!!
Gruden unti it actually happens!!!!….But guaranteed the tears would flow way before the cheers!!!
If you look at his track record I’m not sue how you pimp him as the “O” brain-thrust???….Only with Gannon did he really produce!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
he won a superbowl with Brad johnson!
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Now hire the guy that got Trent Dilfer a ring
and we’ll be set.
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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 AM PST up reply actions
i actually don't really understand why Billick doesn't get some interest from teams
Don’t really want him in Oakland but you would think he could at least get a look in somewhere
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he likes the sound of his own voice a little too much for most owners and GMs
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Billick..classic self-promoter and as popular as rectal cancer...
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Is That A Polite Way Of Calling Him An Ass Hole???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
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hahaha brutal
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The Simple Reported Truth About Jon Gruden:.Direct From The Archives!!!
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002/jan/16
Gruden says he won’t discuss the Irish stew
December 04, 2001|David Bush
Though never saying point blank that he has no interest in the Notre Dame coaching job, Raiders coach Jon Gruden yesterday repeated he has had no contact with the school and that he is happy where he is.
“The last thing I want to do is speculate. I love it here. I love this team.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2001-12-04/sports/17630550_1_offensive-coordinator-bill-callahan-jon-gruden-raiders-coach
Back to school
December 09, 2001
Perhaps Jon Gruden would do almost anything to get away from Al Davis, but the fact is that Gruden — and Steve Mariucci, for that matter — always were unlikely candidates to take a college job like Notre Dame, even before they said they were not interested
http://articles.sfgate.com/2001-12-09/sports/17631510_1_nfl-head-coaches-jon-gruden-jobs
Gruden deserves to keep job
January 21, 2002|By David Steele
ONE OF sports’ most time-honored axioms is to never let a game come down to an official’s call. The same should go for a coach’s job.
But could it happen to Jon Gruden? Could referee Walt Coleman’s brainlock in the snow of Foxboro not only end the Raiders’ season prematurely, but Gruden’s tenure as well?
The issue is relevant because the Raiders’ head coach, now officially a lame duck, has become linked to yet another job, this time in Tampa. Reports are that Al Davis is unhappy about the late-season collapse and puts part of the blame on the fact that it took place right about the time the rumors about Notre Dame and other openings began to swirl around Gruden. Furthermore, Davis reportedly wouldn’t be against cutting a deal to let Gruden go with a year left on his contract, in return for compensation.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-21/sports/17527158_1_jon-gruden-gruden-s-tenure-raiders
Gruden good as gone? / Agent says coach won’t be with Raiders after ’02
January 22, 2002|By Ira Miller, Chronicle Staff Writer
Jon Gruden gave the Raiders a stark choice yesterday: They can let him out of his contract now, and probably get draft choices as compensation from another NFL team that wants him as their coach — the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Or, they can keep him around for a lame-duck year, and wouldn’t that be fun? Then Gruden would leave the Raiders after the 2002 season when his contract expires, and they would get nothing in return.
Those are two lousy choices for the Raiders, but that’s all they have.
The Raiders responded by suggesting three years at about $2.5 million with options by the team beyond that.
Further, it is believed, Gruden wanted language in his contract explicitly allowing him to hire and fire all the assistant coaches and to have some measure of control in player personnel decisions. He also wanted the Raiders, whose loose-knit organizational structure, with everyone reporting to Davis, is a throwback to a much simpler time in pro football, to modernize and restructure. All those things are standard in most head-coaching contracts.
Although Gruden has made it a point never to criticize the Raiders in public, those who know him have heard him often privately complain about the way things were done in the organization, almost to a point of belittlement at times. And, although he publicly never complained about his contract or made a spectacle of seeking more money, he felt that Davis really has not appreciated what he did in turning around the image of the team.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-22/sports/17527219_1_jon-gruden-raiders-boss-al-davis-washington-s-steve-spurrier
Agent says Gruden won’t re-sign with Raiders
January 23, 2002|By David Bush
A Raiders representative said the team hoped to have Jon Gruden coaching beyond 2002, but his agent last night reiterated that Gruden would not sign another contract with the team.
“Jon Gruden will not sign another contract with the Raiders,” agent Bob LaMonte told The Chronicle again last night. “This is not about leverage. There is no agenda here. He will honor his contract (which runs through 2002), and that’s it.”
Raiders senior assistant Bruce Allen said the Raiders have not ruled out Gruden’s lasting beyond 2002, despite LaMonte’s comments. “Jon’s status has been addressed every year since his rookie season,” Allen said. “We anticipate Jon will be here for years to come.”
Faced with LaMonte’s ultimatum and the fact that Gruden is at the top of Tampa Bay’s wish list, the Raiders might want to let Gruden go early in return for some compensation from the Bucs. “I have no comment on that,” LaMonte said.
“That’s up to the Raiders, and we have not heard from them.”
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-23/sports/17528791_1_jon-gruden-senior-assistant-bruce-allen-raiders
Reaction to Gruden loss is split across the bay
February 19, 2002|Charles Burress, Pamela J. Podger, Chronicle Staff Writers
But after Davis gave his explanation of Gruden’s departure and said it was Gruden’s choice, Ricardo said he appreciated Davis’ apparent willingness to let Gruden pursue job offers.
Opinion was divided over whether the Raiders got a good deal for letting Gruden go — two first-round draft picks and two second-round picks, plus $8 million.
“It’s not enough — you can’t replace that guy,” Kugler said.
But Audelo said it “seems like a good deal for Raiders,” and Ricardo said Davis “looks like he won the Lotto. I think they got a hell of deal. They were going to lose Jon Gruden anyway” when his Raiders contract expired at the end of the 2002 season.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-02-19/news/17532342_1_raiders-fans-oakland-raiders-head-jon-gruden
Raiders’ players must accept burden
March 27, 2002|David Steele
They have to close the door on Jon Gruden and open it to Bill Callahan, and the sooner the better. The process, clearly, is in full swing, with tales now emerging of locker-room dissension in Gruden’s final days and the harmony that supposedly will replace it.
Yes, Brown acknowledged, last season ended with significant (albeit unnamed) players who "just could not function with Gruden, no matter what was tried, no matter what was said to the players or what was said to the coach. . . . We had guys going into the game (saying), ’I’m gonna kill this guy.’ " And no, there’s no hint that players — newcomers or holdovers — are showing up this week in that frame of mind about Callahan, even though he, Brown said, “is probably even more intense than Gruden is. It just comes off in a totally different way.”
When all the comparisons are done, however, Brown figures that the credit or blame for how the Raiders perform after Gruden’s contentious exit should fall on the players.
It probably won’t — in some corners, Gruden will get credit for putting together the pieces of a champion or blame for sowing the seeds for collapse by creating the sideshow of his departure.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-03-27/sports/17536727_1_jon-gruden-brown-figures-bill-callahan
No going back for Gruden / Coach won’t even utter word ‘Raiders’
January 10, 2003|Brian Murphy, Chronicle Staff Writer
In a conference call with Bay Area reporters on Wednesday, Gruden did not mention the Raiders or Oakland by name, instead answering multiple Raiders- oriented questions by referring to “their team” and “my previous employment.” Pressed on Thursday in a phone interview with The Chronicle, Gruden said he’s moving on out of respect — to both the Raiders, and to his NFC South champion Bucs.
Gruden did admit to a personal phone call to NFL MVP Rich Gannon to congratulate the quarterback with whom he “grinded” — the exalted Gruden verb — long hours of film study and offensive philosophy in their years as Raiders together..
“I did talk to Rich Gannon,” Gruden said. “It’s a great honor for him . . . but I don’t really want to talk now about personal and private things.”
Then, as Gruden soared into the region’s consciousness with his combination of boyish good looks, manic, theatrical sideline antics and Raiders teams that threatened to return to the Super Bowl, it all fell apart between Gruden and Davis.
Gruden got a five-year, $17.5 million contract, a team knocking on the Super Bowl door, and a life in the town where his parents, 49ers regional scout Jim and retired schoolteacher Kathy, have lived for 20 years.
“To be down here, where my family has lived the last 20 years, it means a lot to me, personally. It has impact, and deep mean-ing, and that says something for a shallow individual such as myself.”
Last year, the Bucs finished 26th in total yards, enough to get head coach Tony Dungy fired. Gruden’s first year saw the team only finish 24th in total yards. But don’t burden Gruden with those numbers.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-01-10/sports/17471283_1_gruden-s-bucs-jon-gruden-chronicle-gruden
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Bottom line
Gruden loved it here but wanted some more of the authority over personnel and his staff that had become standard in the NFL and that his success with the team warranted. Al did not want to concede any power which as the owner was his right and this dispute ended in a standoff.
Gruden had come to a point in his career where his success warranted additional authority unfortunately that was never going to happen with Al and this dispute unfortunately ended in Jon leaving the Raiders.
I personally feel like both men had valid points as a coach who had achieved bringing the Raiders back to the top it is completely understandable that he would want some additional power that had become standard for top head coaches in the league and Al being the owner had every right to decide that he did not want to compromise on giving any further authority to his coach. Gruden left and we have been recovering ever since, Gruden also did us the respect of telling us he was leaving and giving Al an opportunity to cash in.
Gruden has also spoken of regret for leaving Oakland and professed his love of the Raiders and the Raider Nation as well as his great respect for Al. He still refers to the Raiders as ‘we’ and shown love for the Raiders through appearances at Ricky’s as posted in the article.
It was a situation in which both men made mistakes that given the chance would probably not make again.
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Well said sir
Now I’m sure that we can also agree that with an elite qb like Carson Palmer already in place it is Super Bowl time
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Nice Enough For A Cigar!!!...But A Short One Becuse You Presume To Believe Far Too Much!!!
Gullible!!!

It"s A “Mediot” Who Want’s To Be Favored And Would Say Anything For His Share Of The Glory!!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Should Hire His "PR" Man....LoL!!!
If this reconciliation had happened just our of the blue with NO ulterior motives attached I may have been summoned to tears…But NOT!!!!….
It happened after becoming a national “Mediot” so a huge publicity stunt as the “Golden Boy” is reunited with Al’s Franchise Raider fans right under his nose!!!…Anyone remember the Raider’s stance on that whole escapade???
Funny how Gannon was also on the outs with the front office as a “Mediot” as well…Anyone ever question this beyond the implication that the “Old Man” was just nuts as the "Mediot"s all spun it??….
“Info Wars” vs public opinion headed by a “PR” department leading the way for damn "Mediot"s….Ya think there might be something lurking their to be a little suspicious about???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Are you implying that somehow North Korea is behind this?
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Hell N Korea Never Even Sank That War Ship!!!...I Have The Inside Scoop...Ya Want To here It???
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by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
sure!
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My Employers In Cambodia Were So Koreans -n- North Sympathizers...Shady Too!
So when all this went down we were together watching the info on Khmer “TV”…Did you know that US and Korean Naval Maneuvers were in full swing when this happened???…..NOT if you were watching US New Broadcasts!!!
I have worked in 6 shipyards…Todds Seattle-n-Galveston/Lockheed/Tacoma Boat/NASSCO/Bay Ship-n-Yacht….Boilermaker/Ironworker/Steamfitter/Machinist….
I have examined the photos of the ship damage…A ship that was broken in two…And the subsequent Korean report that this was done by a N Koren torpedo???….Ya right!!!..
In the report please notice that this torpedo is old n rusty…They claim the temperatures reached extreme temperatures…Yet the ink markings survived when nothing else did???
Than look at the damage…Why is there a “V” shape rip in the deck and a chunk of the bottom missing with the hull pushed outwards?….Further why aren’t the rubber hydrological lines melted by such high temps along with the paint which is still noticeably intact?
Because this ship was rammed by a US Vessel during the maneuvers and thus broke her back and suck!!!….But now they couldn’t release such a story so N Korea was to be blamed….
As noted, a US-ROK joint military exercise was in progress that day near Byaengnyeong Island and it is highly probable that the Cheonan was at the site as part of the exercise. If a military exercise was going on, then other US and ROK ships were present. So if a North Korean submarine did attack, the US and ROK would have fiercely counterattacked and sunk it. Even if they failed to sink it and it escaped, if there had been an attack from the North, then the US and ROK could stand in the position of justice for simply having defended themselves, so they would immediately have announced that such a battle had occurred.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19375

How long was this in the water to grow these rather larger incrustations on the prop???

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by PantyRaider on Jan 14, 2012 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Notice How Her Exterior Shell Plate Is Roled Inwards...From An Impact!!!

"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 14, 2012 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
thats cool
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Panty
I am a Machinist/Cnc Programmer with the Canadian Air force. We recently some work for the Air museum at our base who did a 10 year restoration on a Halifax Bomber.They found it at the bottom of a lake in Norway ….heres a little article you might find interesting…Apparently these things had a build time of like 40000 man hours during the war and a 150 hour life expectancy. The engines were very cool they had sleeves which slid up and down the head od each cylinder and opened and closed . These were the valves. We machined new props and made new replica guns for it as well as machining new aluminum fittings braces,cross members etc.
http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/v2/nr-sp/index-eng.asp?id=1463
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WoW!!...Interesting....Never Got Into Aircraft But Did Work For Garrett In Az...
GE Aerospace Division In Tacoma also…But that was just on parts…
Mostly I’m from the naval end of it or Power Plants/Oil Refineries and Pipe Lines…
But I did own and restore a 1944 46ft Admiralty Motor Launch Built by Hilyard in Little Hampton England…The “Severn Dragon” named after the Severn River….Old navel catches my fancy…Especially during the age of Pirates and such!!!
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I'd be VERY interested in how Gruden would handle Pryor
That being said I think Gruden is a tad overrated but he would definitely bring some optimism for next season if he is the commodity we hope he is. I don’t think he will come back here and I think McKenzie has made it clear he wants to go with a defensive minded HC which I think is the way to go.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
He didn't...I'm just going on the rumors of all the defensive candidates that may interview
Moss, Bowles, and Capers are all defensive guys that seem likely to interview for the job.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 AM PST up reply actions
those are all just Green Bay guys
and the one guy that’s actually interviewed.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Gruden Would Immeadiately Try To Alter All Pryor's Mechanics From Footwork To Throwing Motion To How He Runs!!!
Than he would try to take what’s left and fit it into a capsule that’s not compatible with his skill set and throw him to the wolves exclaiming it was another lousy Al Davis pick that never should have made an NFL roster!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
WOW! talk about making some assumptions
Gruden actually spoke very highly of Pryor coming out.
Not sure what this is based off aside from your pre-conceived biases
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Just What He Customarily Did With "QB"s -n- "RB"s....Mixed With A Little Sarcasm...LoL!!
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LOL
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well you havent got a great record with you ‘pimping’ lately you know, Hue fired, Tebow winning playoff games etc the fact you are so against this in some ways makes me more confident that this rally could happen! XD
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Yo!!!...I Was Pimping Reggie Very Early This Season!!!
I have also been pimping Moss if we can keep Al Saunders as “OC”…
I’m a Bill Cowher Pimp but will likely fail as bad as you being a Gruden pimp!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Well I think
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well I think there is a much greater chance of Chucky than Cowher
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
And I Was Pimping Madden Last Season And This One As Well...But So Was Every Other Radier Fan!!!
Nice to see he showed up and helped with the transition to Reggie…
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They were minor pimping
Your major pimping has been a little off :)
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
definately overrated but I still liked him
Rich Gannon was the biggest reason for our success when Gruden was here. We also had some great veterans on defense. We may have been the oldest team in the league. The inability to replace Gannon after his injury forced him to retire and the youth movement tore the team apart. Nobody would have succeeded with Jamarcus Russell and company.
At first Gruden attracted veterans. As his career went on in Tampa, a lot of those players began to feel betrayed by Gruden, saying he broke promises to them. He’s a good coach, but he shouldnt have any more power than that IMO. He was better when Al Davis had the ability to contain his authority.
Jon
I liked Gruden, but think Reggie is looking for the next John Madden.
by Mallard Davis on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
If he's coming to Oakland, then ... I hope that's an NA beer in the picture there ...
Cause I have it on fairly good authority that part of why Al parted with Chucky … is that he had a drinking problem. And Al (RIP) was quite the avid tee-totaller.
I don’t have an issue w/people having a drinking problem … but … it’s 10 years later now … if he hasn’t gotten it licked yet … odds are pretty good that he’s not going to be as good of a coach now.
If he’s gotten sober in the meanwhile, I’m cool w/the Chuckster.
by Brett J Valjalo on Jan 13, 2012 8:37 AM PST reply actions
I would love this.
God, would I love this. Mark doesn’t seem to have inherited his pop’s grudges, so there’s a decent chance.
Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.
My god, I'm agreeing with Oz.
END OF THE WORLD!!
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
Welcome
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Welcome to the darkside
XD
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Lemme guess . . .
You have cookies?
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions

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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Hahaha classic
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:59 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Number 1 choice for me absolutely
I hold no ill will towards the man and would be ecstatic to have him back. I miss seeing him on the sidelines and damn he looks good decked out in all that silver and black. I love that those pictures were in 2009, many many years after he left. He looks so happy and would he a great choice.
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by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 13, 2012 8:41 AM PST reply actions
Bigfoot could make a great RB.
He’s more elusive than Barry Sanders.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
Nice
lol
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by Ozraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well, duh
How easy is it to tackle a freaking 8-foot, 500 pound beast?
Just gotta make sure he doesn’t shit on the field.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
Palmer under center, drops back to pass, and the handoff to sasquatch...
and… he… could… go… all… the… way….
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"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
I'm loving it!
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
XD
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Hue would have sat him down
Played tonga instead
by lchristmas on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Tonga = Useless
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
Better "BigFoot" Than "Big Ego"!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I'd love to have Gruden back,
But I sure won’t hold my breath. I’d be completely shocked if it were to happen.
I wouldn't be shocked.
I’d be mildly surprised, as Reggie has showed little indication of wanting to hire an established coach, but Gruden’s connection to the Raiders and Al (And his grudges) no longer being with us means it’s a possibility that can’t be discounted.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
I feel like it's only being speculated because of this regime change
mixed with a lot of wishful thinking by fans.
Definitely a bit of wishful thinking
I wouldn’t put money on it. But like I said, you can’t entirely discount it.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Because The "Mediot" World Want's To Pimp Itself...Gannon To "Chuckie"!!!
Now they will have something to pimp nationally/internationally to the world this “PO” season as they pat their own on the back!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Will gruden
Be gushing over tebow and Brees when the raiders play them, insteading of focusing on a win??!! Seriously though I wouldn’t mind having him back. I don’t know though…
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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM PST via mobile reply actions
LOL.
No, it’s Rivers he really gushes over.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah
Forgot about that haha!! I can imagine him applauding rivers when he throws tds against the raiders. His post game talk/ handshake with rivers would be extended each game.
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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 10:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
No
He’d beg Reggie to trade for Rivers.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
1st rounder in 2013 and a 2014 1st rounder depending on if we reach the title game? Haha
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... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Gruden Ok not great
I see no reason to think just because he did ok here the first time to just hand him the team now
.Due diligence must be given to finding a proper coach. Now while I am not saying Gruden did not do OK here I will state that he did not win a Superbowl with this team either.
Now I know some of you will say he built that team.But before you start that lets look at this.Bruce Allen was the GM. AL had the final say.Gruden wanted more say over players. From this we can really say Gruden did ok but did not really build the team.Sure he coached them. He also had 2 HOF receivers.
Yes but AFC championship games..I know But the Tuck…ah yes the infamous tuck.Lets look at that in reality shall we. Had the Tuck rule not been called there is no doubt We have would have had possession of the ball and its game over. I absolutely agree on that. However it was not that call cost us the game. We still had the lead in the game the tuck rule cost us possession it did not cost us points or did it give points.It merely awarded possession back to New England. What did cost us the game is also what cost us quite a few this year.That is the Chuck Bresnehan play calling on Defense.The Raiders gave up the lead ,the game,and came home from New England.
The next year Which was probably our best chance to win was against the Ravens. Siragusa drives Gannon down to the ground and drives through him. If that had been the Raiders or any other time that is a penalty. No penalty was called. Our back up playes the game. Sharpe catches the long one, again against a Bresnehan defense and bam have to far to come back without Gannon. Thats not Gruden’s fault I agree.I have come to resent that non call more than the tuck.
Finally Al trades Chucky we play his team which has a Dungy disciplined,Monty Kiffin Defense stacked with probowlers who know our Offense because Our coach did not change diddly squat. Chucky knows this they are sitting on our every pass route and get the ball .However this did not start to happen until after they turned Mike Alstot loose on our defense.Again coached by our resident genius Chuck Bresnehan.In My opinion that superbowl turned on a 90 yard 10+minute drive where We could not stop Alstot. Once we had to start throwing to catch up we were done.
Gruden for his part never got close again final deathblow to his Tampa career coming at the hands of these very Raiders when we knocked the Bucs out of the play offs on the last game of the season.
My point Bruce Allen and Gruden were not able to repeat or get close with that team or build one to get back again. They did build a team here but AL was also involved. So it can be argued that some of the credit maybe a lot of it did belong to Al as well.
My point .well its simple Gruden was a good coach. He did pull this team up again.It has been said he lost the locker room. Well then perhaps with Reggie we can start sending those players who dont want to play here, or play who dont want to play for this coach or whatever lame excuse they give , packing for a change. If Gruden is the best option then bring him if he is not , then dont.
Past success or no experience does not guarantee success now.
Neither does it prohibit it.
Lets not rush, lets not be hasty, lets take our time and get our coach for the next 10-15 years .
Above all lets make sure that Next Thursday is Bresnehans last day ever.
by Canadian Raider on Jan 13, 2012 10:10 AM PST reply actions
I Like It Rack It!!....LoL!!..
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Love me some Chucky, but I'm kinda with PR on his rehire here
I think it brings with it too many expectations, and at this point I’m struggling to see McKenzie co-mingling successfully with a dynamic and powerful personality like Gruden’s. That said, I’d be extremely excited were it to happen. I still believe Gruden’s one of the great offensive minds in football today, and give him a qb with a similar work ethic, and look out.
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"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
I be watching espn 1st take and...
They were talking bout tebow mania(surprise!) and how thy believe that espn is justified in covering tebow 24/7 cuz the fans or public started this! Now this may be true but espn over does it by showing it 24/7 and it’s always a topic. Hell u got Charles Barkley and lady gaga connected to tebow! Personally I’m tired of all the coverage and even though it’s my choice to watch or not. I want to watch nfl network on a day when tebow is not the headline. Sure the public create this “phenomenon” but espn went overboard. Guess the “mediots” as y’all call em, believe its our fault for loving or hating him. Except skip Bayless he blames tebow. Well that was my tebow rant cuz seriously…. It’s getting old. I mean they were covering him yesterday on local news and it wasn’t sports!!! LOCAL and I don’t live in Denver!!!!!
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... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST via mobile reply actions
NOT Just ESPN....Go Look At NFL.com!!!
I don’t know if anyone has been looking but the NFL “god” Crap has gotten way out of control!!!…
Religious Fanaticism over Tebow turns into this:
Salem witches in Brady’s corner, but won’t hex Tebow
Those pesky Salem witches are at it again.
Roughly 300 years after they were put on trial in hard-hitting colonial Massachusetts, a modern-day cadre of sorceresses are joining forces to ensure Tom Brady and the Patriots will come out on top in Saturday’s AFC divisional playoff against the Broncos.
The group plans to gather Friday (the 13th, mind you) to nullify any curses associated with Brady……….
Are you freakin kidding me???
This after all last week the NFL pimping the question if god was behind Tebow and on Denver’s side…
Yikes!!!…All jokes aside there be a hell of allot of really psycho religious fanatics watching football as a result of this stupid crap and that’s prolley why the NFL is pushing it…..
Pass the plate $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
[Headdesk]
Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.
by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
this dudes an idiot but its funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYSRiz52exk&feature=related
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
hes right too
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Funny...I Laughed!!!...And He's Right!!!...Only If You Suck!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
haha
the tony romo joke was hilarious.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Mark might hire Gruden to stick it to Al
he knows Jon and Al had a rocky relationship and Al would never rehire him but Mark on the other hand….
Why Would He Want To Stick It To His Father???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Why Would Anyone Read That Crap Let Alone Believe It???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Because (And this is really a shocker)
Many people are gullible dumbasses.
Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.
by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Sadly, Silver is usually a pretty solid writer other than that trash he wrote
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Then why would he want to stick it to his deceased father?
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 13, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
maybe stick it to was a poor choice of words
but we always want to prove we can do a better job. If your father passed and left you the family business wouldnt you want to do better than him and make it thrive? Al and Jon butted heads and we lost a good coach because of it and Mark prob witnessed it first hand. If Mark, Reggie and Jon can have a good working relationship and not have a power struggle then it could be successful for years to come. But if they are not ok with the level of authority Jon wants then it will not work. I just think Mark saw things thay Al did that he did not agree with and will want to change it but thats normal with all families.
How About This For An Angle???
The kid did see the charade with Gruden and than again as he posed as a Raider at Rickie’s…He also knew how his father felt about that whole charade…Now comes Gannon to pimp Gruden as the next Raider “HC” and the you think the kid wants to put himself threw this same mess again???….NOT!!!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Ok...but thats a lot of guessing. Maybe Mark was on a beach drinking beer and fucking all that time?
Or just hanging out in Bali and not giving a flying fuck about the Raiders?
Lets not go all Freud on him, dude…
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 14, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
Silver is also Al's most hated writer other than Mort
As Whitlock pointed out Silver made his name ‘battling’ Al, he hates Al and clearly now hates Mark.
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because Mark wants to put his imprint on the franchise
not to say Dad screw you but more like look where I can take the franchise now. I love AL but if Mark and Reggie bring in the right people and win a SB many will say Al held back the franchise due his relationships with prior staff
Exactly.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I bet it has something to do with the Silver article
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
My first choice would be Madden......
but that would be too much for the old legend. Chucky wouldnt be too bad. Maybe Capers, Moss, or Nolan as DC. I keep hearing Chucky and Mark had a pretty good relationship and still remain friends. I doubt that he would leave the media booth. All those free games and big $$$ to talk football. Things are gonna get interesting fellas. I cant wait to see some of these pieces begin to fall into place. HC, DC, Draft, Trades, L.A.?
I hope he keeps Saunders
A real DC would make this team a contender.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
[Drools]
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
I understand that people want continuity with Saunders
But why else do people want to see Saunders stay as OC?
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Our offense wasn't the problem this year
Defense was. With a healthy offense and a remotely better D we’d be in the playoffs.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
True but Saunders didn't call the plays...Hue did.
Can Saunders be as effective or possibly more effective than Hue at that aspect? I’m not so sure.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
As "OC" It Would Have/Should Have been Saunders Who Was Drawing Up The GamePlans???
Of course we know nothing so everything is just speculation…But Saunders has extensive “HC”/“OC” experience and once Palmer and Saunders got on the same page with the "WR"s it was working very well…
Most were NOT impressed with Hue’s play calling and at times neither was I…Run on every damn 1st dn and have to make up 2nd-n-long/3rd-n-long all day…That was dumb!!!…But I loved the reverses and such that threw curves in the game and disrupted the "D"s…But for the most past Hue was very predictable…But that’s also when we had fewer options as weapons due to injury???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Saunders was more of an offensive assistant than an full OC
He and Hubris drew up game plans together and Hue called the plays
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Palmer Said He Didn't Get Enough Time With Hue In "QB" Meetings And Such...
This kinda tells me that Al Saunders was handling most of the team prep work while Hue was off playing Pseudo “GM”!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Miami Dolphins: "Jeff Fisher used us"
Lol there’s something really funny about that…
“We feel dirty”
he could not
cause Sancez is a jet…lol
by Canadian Raider on Jan 13, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Poor Miami
Last year they couldn’t land Harbaugh, now this year Fisher gives them the run around before also going to the NFC West.
Dolphins suck..
And who would want to be in the same division as Brady and Belichick, an up and coming Bills team and the schizophrenic Jets?
I would've done the same thing he did...pick the Rams
Young promising QB and D, weak division….
Its funny since he lost the SB against them back in ’00
I'm Joking To Trade Bresnahan...LoL!!!...Bres As Howie's Kid Now That Sucks!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Chris Long
2010
8.5 sacks, 3 passese defended, 3 forced fumbles
2011
13.5 sacks, 2 passes defended, 1 forced fumble
Can't believe Fisher picks a train wreck like the Rams
over Miami who’s actually on their way up. Kind of screwed themselve in the draft by winning those games though. Should have let us win.
rams have bradford and if they draft blackmon they will have a solid offense
with stephen jackson. miami has a solid d and young question marks. miami has more upside but rams can be good with a solid d
ya but they could always fix that with FA and the draft
i think they still have some cap room but im not 100% sure
Have you ever visited Miami?
St. Louis?
Fisher must have taken too many blows to the head during his career.
by lchristmas on Jan 13, 2012 1:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Then again
I’m told Chuck Berry still does shows in his old haunts in St. Louis. Maybe Fisher is a big fan.
IF thats true I think I'm taking vacation
To St. Louis. Chuck Berry is the fucking man
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 14, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
The "WE" Excluding ME!!!....
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Appropiate title: "Oz wants Chucky!"
No disrespect Oz I enjoyed reading it but I honestly dont want him back…must be awesome being Chucky he leaves us, kicks our ass in the SB and some Raider faithful still love him ( including my dad) and want him back….Once a Raider always a Raider my ass Jon, I’ll never forgive you…
No the title is correct, we want chucky
lol just look at the damn poll
by RaiderPride20 on Jan 13, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I still see like 99 No votes...
Don’t know how you guys can be so forgiving, must be some kind of Obsessive Ex Syndrome or something…
Now it's up to 112
Out of over 1000. I’ve heard people talk about revisionist history in terms of Gruden’s time here, but I feel like everyone has started looking at Al with rose colored glasses since his passing. Don’t get me wrong, Al Davis was awesome, but there’s not denying that he was a notorious pain in the ass to work for. There’s a reason we had trouble attracting any good coaches after Gruden left and a reason none of the coaches we did have lasted very long.
Al Davis did a ton of great things for the entire sports, but he also made tons of mistakes over the last decade.
Sooo...now that Al's gone all those good coaches will want to come here?
If that’s the case and we can have whoever we want…why insist on bringing back Gruden when the options are endless?
I didn't say that.
I said Al was difficult to work for and it kept coaches away. I think Reggie is going to have to build an environment more, for lack of a better term, friendly before coaches will really want to come here.
And I’m not insisting on anyone. I’m just someone who liked Gruden, and still likes him and would be happy enough if he returned. There are other coaches I’d be happy with as well.
I think the reality is that one of the major reasons Al continually went with young or retread coaches was because any coach with half a decent record
wanted the same level of control as every other every other coach in the NFL and if Al had struck gold again with Kiffen or someone like that again we would have probably experienced the same problem again as we did with Gruden.
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With Kiffen I think it just happened earlier
Kiffen didn’t want Russel, but Davis did. Davis was monumentally wrong there. It’s too bad, too. I know Kiffen gets tons of flack (a lot deserved, some not so much), but I really would have liked to see what he could have done if he hadn’t been bogged down by the 300 pound dead weight known as JaMarcus “Purple Drank” Russel and instead had Calvin Johnson and who the hell knows at QB.
i dont see what was so horrible about what he did and find it very vindictive to hate him still
He gave us plenty of notice he wouldn’t resign without more power so we shipped him off for 2 1sts 2 2nds and 8 million dollars. It sucks we had to play him in the SB but because of the way he handled it we got crazy compensation for him instead of nothing.
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by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
We can do better than Chucky...
Just cause he was the last HC that gave us continued success dont mean he is the one we need right now…
That's true
And I really don’t expect him to comeback here, but I don’t think it’s surprising that so many people want him back. It’s been a dark decade for us Raiders fans.
Choice
I like Jon, but it was his choice to leave. The Raiders got squat in the trade for him and lost the SB as a result.
I will keep saying, I think Reggie is looking for the next John Madden.
by Mallard Davis on Jan 13, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
We got two first round draft picks
and like $8 million cash for Gruden, if we didn’t turn it into anything that does not mean we didn’t get anything for him.
Al just didn’t hit on those draft picks…those were the dark years where Al trusted no one.
Any body know who we drafted with those picks? I’d be interested in knowing.
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Answered my own question:
The details of the Raiders’ most infamous deal:
During the 2001-02 offseason, the Oakland Raiders allowed head coach Jon Gruden to sign with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in exchange for 1st and 2nd round draft picks in 2002, a 1st round pick in 2003 and a 2nd round pick in 2004, plus cash. The trade continues to have an effective on the Raiders in 2011-12, albeit under the law of diminishing returns.
This is a breakdown of what happened to those picks, with Raider draft choices in bold.
The picks eventually were:
1st round/21st overall, 2002
2nd round/53rd overall, 2002
1st round/32nd overall, 2003
2nd round/33rd overall, 2004
On Draft Day 2002, the Raiders made a series of trades involving the 21st overall pick.
They traded the 21st overall pick and their 3rd round/89th overall pick to the Washington Redskins for the 18th overall pick, then traded the 18th overall pick and their 5th round/158th overall pick to the Atlanta Falcons for the 17th overall pick.
Washington later traded the 21st overall pick to New England for the 32nd overall pick, a 3rd round/96th overall pick and a 7th round/234th overall pick.
With the 17th overall pick, the Raiders chose CB/KR Phillip Buchanon of the University of Miami. (Buchanon played for the Raiders from 2002-2004, and was traded to the Houston Texans just before the 2005 NFL Draft; see below.)
With the 53rd overall pick, the Raiders chose OT Langston Walker of California. (Walker played for the Raiders from 2002-2006, and signed with the Buffalo Bills as an unrestricted free agent during the 2006-07 offseason. He rejoined the Raiders in 2009 after being released by the Bills, playing in 2009-10 before becoming a free agent.)
Atlanta chose RB T.J. Duckett of Michigan State 18th overall and QB Kurt Kittner of Illinois 89th overall. New England chose TE Daniel Graham of Colorado 21st overall. And Washington chose QB Patrick Ramsey of Tulane 32nd overall and DE Greg Scott of Hampton 234th overall. The Redskins traded the 96th overall pick to the Baltimore Ravens, which traded it to the Denver Broncos. Denver chose DT Dorsett Davis of Mississippi State.
On Draft Day 2003, the Raiders chose DE Tyler Brayton of Colorado with the 32nd overall pick, and traded the 2nd round pick in 2004 to Houston for a 3rd round/83rd overall pick and 7th round/262nd overall pick. (Brayton played for the Raiders from 2003-2007, and signed with the Carolina Panthers as an unrestricted free agent during the 2007-08 offseason.)
With the 83rd overall pick, the Raiders chose LB Sam Williams of Fresno State, and with the 262nd overall pick, they chose WR Ryan Hoag of Gustavus Adolphus. (Williams played for the Raiders from 2003-10, and was released at the end of training camp in 2011; Hoag was waived in training camp in 2003.)
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Those were my exact words
when I read it!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Wow, Nobody got anything of any value with any pick involved in those deals! lmao
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by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 20, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
I think 1000 votes Yes to 100 no's indicates that the Nation wants the prodigal son to return home
It is you my friend who is in the extreme minority on this one
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I'm loyal to my Raiders...
Not to some coach who forced his way out of Oakland and then went on to humilliate us in the Super Bowl….I guess in this fast moving world its easy to forget something that happened 9 years ago….trust me I want to win as much as you all do but Gruden is not the answer and besides when was the last time he coached? 2008?
As i said to PR
Gruden justifiably wanted more of the power that every other head coach in he NFL had and Al didn’t want to give it to him. Both men were right and both men were wrong.
At least Jon gave Al the opportunity to get something for him instead of leaving us high and dry and Gruden has also repeatedly expressed regret over leaving and has said many times he would love to come back.
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Gruden is 3 years removed from the game...
Jon started to show remorse and desire to come back to us the moment he was fired by the Bucs, the moment he was out of a job…
Like an ex girlfriend whos happy to leave you then nobody wants her and shes begging for you to take her back…
And if things havent changed and he still wants more power and control as a HC how does that make him any different than Hue? It just wouldnt work with our new system in place, Reggie wouldnt allow it…
I just dont see it happening, and I personally wouldnt want him back….but thats just my opinion, i’m part of that 10% of the Raider Nation who voted No in your poll…
Do we even know what Reggie would and wouldn't allow with regards to his HCs?
I recall him saying that he would be letting his HC choose his own staff and whatnot. Which is what both Gruden and Hue seemed to want. Which is what most HCs want. I just don’t see what the big deal is here. Especially since this is all hypothetical fan wish list talk.
This is exactly right
He is modeling after green bay and its not like Mike McCarthy has no say or power over personnel
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You have no idea what you are talking about
Reggie is not going to rule with an iron fist like Al that has already been made very clear the new coach will be allowed to hire his own staff and as in Green Bay will have reasonable input on personnel
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Yeah go ahead and believe everything they tell you...
I wish I had that inside information on how Reggie and Mark Davis will operate from now on that you seem to possess…
And go ahead and ignore the fact that Gruden’s been out of coaching for 3 years, which in today’s NFL is a LONG time…
And the fact that he’s been criticized repeatedly by his former players for telling them he was gonna do one thing and ended up doing something else, he lost the trust of a lot of his ex players…you want this man running the show?
I am going by what was said in the press conference and that is that the coach would have the complete power to hire his own staff
and that we would be based on the green bay system which affords Mike McCarthy control over personnel working in conjunction with Ted Thompson.
McKenzie is restructuring the entire front office the fact you seem to think that Reggie is going to going to be some kind of new Al Davis shows that you are uninformed about what is about to occur moving forward.
Sure Jon has not been coaching for 3 years but he has not been out of football completely and is still very much involved in todays game including breaking down tape and keeping very much up to date with todays trends in the league.
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Ted Thompson makes the personnel decisions...
Mike McCarthy makes the coaching decisions….Green Bay model? Everyone has their job and they stick to it without interference…
That said Mark may not be Al but the apple doesnt fall far from the tree, nobody assures us that he wont have final say on all decisions made at Raiders HQ…he’s the owner its his right after all….
Mark’s a Raider, always have been and no true Raider would welcome back Gruden with open arms after what he did to us IMO….I certainly wouldn’t….you can go ahead and raise money to put a “Bring back Gruden” billboard or whatever…they’re not hiring him, it just won’t happen bro sorry….
Way to bring in the 'true Raider fan' argument - DEEEEEERRRRRPPPPPPP and as the poll clearly shows you are in the extreme minority
nobody assures us that he wont have final say on all decisions made at Raiders HQ
This comment is proof in itself that you are clueless Mark himself clearly stated that Reggie has full autonomy over the football operation and Mark acknowledged that he is not Al and knows what he can and cant do which is why he brought in Reggie.
You opinion is extremely uninformed and not in any way based on the facts or statements from the people themselves.
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Just listen to press conference again...
You’re in for a big surprise, let me know when you realize whats wrong with what you just wrote…then we’ll see who the “uninformed” really is…
And I might be part of the minority in my opinion, but I truly believe Gruden’s ship has sailed a long time ago and he’s no good for us…I don’t trust him, don’t believe in him anymore…and i got a feeling Mark feels the same way…I’d rather formulate my own opinions even if few people think like me than blindly follow the hype….for all this talk of the new era we’re embarking on you seem to be stuck in the past my friend….
Let me know when you listen to the press conference again…just a hint the words we’re searching for are “final decisions”…Cheers!
My friend, it is thee who must take upon what you just said.
Mark is not Al. A new Era has begun. Stop hoping Mark will be like Al, Roy.
The RaiderLaker
"and i got a feeling Mark feels the same way"
It’s all Reggie son. Not MARK. Mark will only hear the updates McKenzie gives him. He is an observer as he has stated. I don’t take Mark for a POS liar. He’ll be a good overseer. Not a hands on guy like Al was.
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He did say he'll have final say in Reggie's decisions...
I’m not saying or hoping Mark turns out to be Al 2.0…all I’m saying is no son of Al would welcome Gruden back….
you are hearing what you want to based on a pre-conceived notion of what you think is going on
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Ummm no...
Go ahead listen to the press conference again, you’ll see when Mark says he’ll have final say on Reggie’s decisions…
If someone is hearing exactly what he wants thats you Oz…
And if everybody here wanted Gruden back you would not get a No vote in the poll…180 and counting…
so you are convinced that your interpretation on the press conference
And your conclusion that Mark will be ruling with an Iron fist like his father which as far s I can tell is exclusive to you based on the fact you don’t seem to have a lot of support is correct and everybody else is wrong and completely misinterpreted what was going on and being explained about how the franchise would operate?
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I know it may seem complicated but i'll simplify it for ya...
Mark Davis literally said he’d have final say on Reggie’s football decisions….
I’m not saying Mark will rule with an iron fist, just saying that he being Al’s son will not welcome the man who humilliated his family owned franchise…
Capisci?
We have very different opinions and viewpoints on how that whole scenario went down
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Personally I Doubt Mark Desires To Exercise Any Power Play In This??
Reggie is the man and things will progress according to his plan…Reggie said he will keep Mark informed and thus involved…But it a working relationship…Only if Reggie fucks up will Mark lay his hand upon that end of the organization!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 14, 2012 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
+1
That is my interpretation. He wants to be on the business side ,worry about stadiums ,hot dog prices etc.
He admitted he knows nothing about running a football organization.I think he is going to stick to what he knows not meddle in the team by worrying about who the weakside LB is or what his dollar worth is.
Big MC will report to him sure by saying…We have a scouting department in place or we are hiring /firing the coach but I don’t think he will have to get permission or go like a kid begging for lunch money looking for approval to make moves.
I think the only motivation is to win long term. Because winning long term is the only thing that guarantees butts in the seats long term.
by Canadian Raider on Jan 14, 2012 6:05 AM PST up reply actions
im not blindly following any hype
im STARTING the hype.
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Yeah Oz this is the first time I've ever heard someone from the Nation
asking for Gruden to come back….
You’re certainly a pioneer…
Thats ridiculous
the apple seemed to fall pretty far from the tree as far as football decision making style. He is not going to be running an al-style show, there is less than zero evidence to suggest it.
As oz said many times and I agree. Gruden did what he thought he had to do for his career. He didn’t air his dirty laundry publicly and clearly always wished he could have stayed. He didn’t stab us in the back.
by lchristmas on Jan 13, 2012 6:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He screwed us plain and simple....
I dont care why, all I know is that and thats not easily forgiven, there’s no way he sets foot at Raiders HQ again…some fans and Raider employees might welcome him back, but the men and women at the top, I dont think so…
He has never stabbed Raider Nation
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Dude.... have you been following closely? Mark has said he will not focus call any shots on the football side of things.
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I retract the first part of my statement. I came off as an A-hole Raider Roy.
I just got jumpy because I would not like Mark to be calling any shots as he himself has stated he is not highly football inclined/informed.
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and has clearly explained that he would not be doing
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No problem bro...
Look we’re all in this together…we just happen to disagree on the Gruden part…I don’t see why we all have to think alike…I respect your opinions, respect mine…
Not really at all for a coach...
He has been just as involved in the game in regards to studying, speaking with players and coaches, and evaluating college talent and playbook schemes to come right back into the correct situation and be an effective coach. Your mind never stops moving, unlike your legs or back when your a player. No love will be lost when the players see a coach who is highly regarded around the league as a winner and motivator.
Keep on convincing yourself that he's the best fit for us...
It just won’t happen sorry, you’re all just wasting your time, and I wont let you waste mine in the process…
Let me know when you find a more reasonable option for our HC vacancy…not that Mark, Reggie or anyone at the top actually care, but I’m just tired of arguing with you guys over “the one that got away” lol
so who is your number 1 option for the HC role?
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Most likely to happen IMO:
HC: Dom Capers
DC: Winston Moss (assistant HC)
OC: Al Saunders (wishful thinking lol)
I Almost Liked It Entirely!!!
HC: Bill Cowher/Tony Dungy
DC: Moss
OC: Al Saunders
Most likely to happen IMO:
HC: Winston Moss (HC)
DC: Daren Perry (DC)
OC: Al Saunders (wishful thinking lol)…But Real Posibility???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Oz definitely struck a nerve here
This thing had already blown up by the time I woke up this morning. Think the Nation has spoken.
Over 1100 votes with 1000 for bringing back Chucky
The Nation has definitely spoken I just hope Reggie hears our pleas!
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For one I agree with Oz in something xD
Were making progress lol
by RaiderPride20 on Jan 13, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
:)
Well now Hubris is going I feel like I am back to being the old kool-aid drinking Oz!
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There isn't another coach who could gain this much of a consensus amonst the Nation
Quite frankly if Mark Davis wants to sell more season tickets and suites without having to rely too much on giveaways and deals, reaching out to Gruden would be a smart business decision. No one would rally the Nation like Chucky, and if he wants that new stadium here there or anywhere, a nice splash getting more eyes on the team would be worth it.
Otherwise, just hire Winston Moss and rebuild.
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HEY! SANJAY LAI IS GONE AS WR COACH!
He signed with the Jets.
LOLOLOL
LET’S GET A NEW WR COACH NOW.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jan 13, 2012 2:47 PM PST reply actions
Tim Brown anyone? Think Tim would be interested in coaching?
NO MERCY!
by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Jan 13, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Great players do not translate to great coaches every time.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 13, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'd still be happy enough to give him a shot
if he had any interest. It still enrages me that he’s not in the Hall of Fame yet.
No Please!!!!
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this yes
is for the leaving on Sanjay….bring in someone who can teach route running
by Canadian Raider on Jan 14, 2012 6:09 AM PST up reply actions
Question
The new HC may want to keep some of the coaches on the Raiders staff (Waufle, Saunders). Are their contracts up? If so, waiting until after the SB to get a Green Bay assistant they may be gone. As for Bres, BYE-BYE!
Money talks
But I think realistically, the only way I see him agreeing to come back is if it was set that the team was moving to Los Angeles. That way not only would the pay be there, but enough extra in terms of endorsements to make leaving the booth worthwhile.
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LA stadium just sent me an email with some new promos
but it also said that all the red tape has been cleared and once a team has committed to move they will break ground on the stadium and it will take one calendar year to build. Raiders contract with O.co is over after the 2013 season. Perfect timing lets do it. Also the owner is part owner of the Lakers and LA kings and does not interfere with them at all so maybe Mark can strike a deal with them. I know you guys hate that idea but its a possibility
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"State-o-da-Art" Facility Would Be Sweet If The Raiders Have Some Input As To It's Design???
That “Pirate Ship” in “TB” should be ours!!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
yeah that would be awesome
that pirate ship is cool.
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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!
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NO
It’s the OAKLAND Raiders.
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 14, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
+1
A fan since 1963 at age 8. NO WAY WILL I ROOT FOR THE LA RAIDERS!
by Mallard Davis on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I can't pretend to really care. Those of you attached to them because of your proxomity will obviously disagree with me, but if they move to LA it's just a couple hours more to drive.
In any case, I see every single game on CBS cuz I live in the San Joaquin Valley.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
If you are in the San Joaquin
Then you ARE within proximity right now. I live in Tracy and I go to all the games I can.
If they move to LA that will kill my winters.
"The Raiders are the Bad Guy Professional Wrestlers of the NFL. Everybody hates us, and loves nothing more then to watch us lose. We got the costumes, we got the facepaint, and the attitude. All we are missing is a bunch of rednecks to start chanting USA USA USA at us..." - ME
"Contrary to popular belief, Al Davis is in heaven. Satan did not want Al in his domain, since Al already owns 49% of Hell and has always been known as a "Demon's Owner" " - ME
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 14, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
And for the record I'll root for the Raiders
I don’t care if they move when it’s all said and done. But it won’t be right. It doesn’t sound right and it doesn’t make sense.
The Raiders are about the only thing the city of Oakland has anymore.
"The Raiders are the Bad Guy Professional Wrestlers of the NFL. Everybody hates us, and loves nothing more then to watch us lose. We got the costumes, we got the facepaint, and the attitude. All we are missing is a bunch of rednecks to start chanting USA USA USA at us..." - ME
"Contrary to popular belief, Al Davis is in heaven. Satan did not want Al in his domain, since Al already owns 49% of Hell and has always been known as a "Demon's Owner" " - ME
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 14, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
I’m from Fresno, doesn’t bother me one way or the other really. However, seems like Oakland is there home more so than in LA. Oakland would be screwed. Than again, the stadium is pretty shitty too, that definitely needs to change. I’ll root for them in either town, until they become the Turbo Chargers or the Enigmatic Aliens. In which case, I will reevaluate allegiances.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 15, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
For Me Being A Far Outsider I Look Fowrads To Coming Bact To OakTown To See My Raiders...
NOT the same about going to LA…Way too big and not the community that OakTown/Berkeley/San Leando can be…Hangin our at Rickey’s is too Kool….The Englander Too when the Raider Fans showed up for JT The Brick…Just never had that type of feel when in LA…
But than I lived in Pico Rivera!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
I meant the Pirate Ship not Tampa Bay!
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LOL
This is even in the Oakland Raiders links on SI. Here’s to hoping Reggie looks at those.
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chucky for head coach
Winston Moss as Defensive Coordinator
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin
I think I just blew a load
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yes, please
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Kobe
40 and no, no one is takin half!!!!
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... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 9:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
7th best player my ass.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
WR coach first to go from Raiders staff...Just As I Was Pimping Oz!!!
The New York Jets hired Sanjay Lal to be their wide receivers coach, according to a report from NewYorkJets.com. Lal held that position with the Raiders the past five seasons.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7451541/nfl-ten-years-later-tuck-rule-game-resonates
Read this article and it brought back bitter, infuriating memories. Tim Brown quotes Gruden tell his players after his last game with them, " as long as you play with the Raiders, they will never let you win".
WoW!!!...That Is Just So Fuckin Sick!!!....Nice Though For It All To Come Out 10 Seasons After The Fact!!!
What is this beyond the limit of prosecution???…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
Statute Of Limitations???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
No way I am reading that
Im not a masochist
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It Answers Some Long Unanswerd Questions....Everyone Should Reed It!!!
Testimony also from the damn “Zebra” that tells it for what it was!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Good article
Like many in the nation, I am still stunned by the impact of this game. It is correct, destinies definitely changed for both teams. I think we would have been in the Super Bowl that year too, don’t know how they would have done against the Rams but you never know. The refs did get the call right, despite Brady’s clear attempt to tuck the ball in. It was one of those things. Gruden was correct at the time, no way that call doesn’t go against the Raiders. Painful, but quite insightful. I can see how the players would be deflated after that play. And one helluva kick from Vinateri. Ugghhh, rugged day :(
by lakers007raiders on Jan 13, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
The Son Mark Davis -vs- The Father Al Davis....Really???...Is That Even Reasonable???
What type of family are we looking at here….This is the Davis Family and Mama Davis is still alive…Now Mark wants to look her in the eye as he pulls some rebellion crap out of his ass?….NOT!!!
The kid did see the charade with Gruden and than again as he posed as a Raider at Rickie’s…He also knew how his father felt about that whole charade…Now comes Gannon to pimp Gruden as the next Raider "HC" and the you think the kid wants to put himself threw this same mess again???….NOT!!!!!
Look at respectable NFL families:
Manning…Their sons want to rebel?
Wiz I n Wiz II…See anything there?
Dorset n his son??
Ken Norton the Boxer n his son Jr?
Howie n the Boyz?
The list goes on and on!!!
This is NOT Todd MarihuanaVich and the daddy who never let him play!!!…This is the Davis Family and NO way in hell Mark Davis as the slightest desire to disrespect the image/memory of his famous father!!!!
“Family Traditions”!!!…Would Beaucifus disrespect Hank Sr?….Absolutely NOT!!!!
So don’t pimp Mark to post such atrocious behavior on the NFL “Front Page” for the would of the "Mediot"s to slander with their pitiful accusations of the “Family Rivalry”!!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I'm with you a billion percent on this, Matty
Chucky or bust!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjZ1Q6YKF70
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by Mike Garza on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
HELL YEAH BROTHER!
thats awesome I havent seen that clip for years! sooo goood!
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This mayne is kool mayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCTXF5ofsSo Kelly is awesome. Deserves to start in the PB.
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... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 11:41 PM PST reply actions
Man week 1...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgMl4YtKYxk How things have changed.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 PM PST reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifmuySsRhLU haha the spanish announcer was priceless!
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 14, 2012 12:09 AM PST reply actions
Anything
to get Gruden out of the broadcast booth! And I’m sure he’d be great again for the Raiders.
So Just How Much Power Did Jon Gruden Really Have With The Raiders???...Prolley Much More Than Most!!!
Q: Isn’t this the first time in team history someone other than Al Davis is the Raiders GM?
Madden: They had close to a general manager when Bruce Allen was there and Jon Gruden was the coach. That was a time that Al was spending a lot of time in court, and I think Bruce Allen was kind of the acting general manager and go-between with Al being in court and Jon Gruden the coach.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Who also stated publicly at one point that he disagreed with the tuck rule.
One reason I don’t mind him.
Although he tore Gruden a new asshole recently.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Gruden Was Already Changing The Landscape Before That "Tuck Rule"!!!
Jan. 19, 2002….“Tuck Rule”!!!
2 days later this:
Gruden deserves to keep job
January 21, 2002|By David Steele
ONE OF sports’ most time-honored axioms is to never let a game come down to an official’s call. The same should go for a coach’s job.
But could it happen to Jon Gruden? Could referee Walt Coleman’s brainlock in the snow of Foxboro not only end the Raiders’ season prematurely, but Gruden’s tenure as well?
The issue is relevant because the Raiders’ head coach, now officially a lame duck, has become linked to yet another job, this time in Tampa. Reports are that Al Davis is unhappy about the late-season collapse and puts part of the blame on the fact that it took place right about the time the rumors about Notre Dame and other openings began to swirl around Gruden. Furthermore, Davis reportedly wouldn’t be against cutting a deal to let Gruden go with a year left on his contract, in return for compensation.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-21/sports/17527158_1_jon-gruden-gruden-s-tenure-raiders
This did NOT just happen after the Tuck Game was over…It was already in the works and waiting until our season was over before the interest was shown!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
you do realise all the 'evidence' you are posting is also articles written by your vaunted 'mediots'
So the stuff written by ‘mediots’ is ok as long as you agree with it right?
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lol.
SF Gate is actually kinda reliable.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
yeah i know but PR hates anyone with a pen
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
nice one
:)
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LoL!!!....They All Be Paid Assassins Right???
Everything that you use to pimp that Bastard is form some damn “Mediot” source or made up fantasy so as they say in Hollywood “Fight Fire With Fire”!!!..So I go out and use your own pimping service against you…Now that’s kool right?…Or should I say I go our and use Gruden’s own pimping service against him?
Now what…You going to reject the word of the "Mediot"s?…Kool!!!…I’m damn down with that!!!
But it’s the only source that I can copy-post as a reference which is what I do…I won’t argue something without the evidence to support it…And talking about what Jim Otto told us is just hearsay on my part and prolley rejected by most of the “Grudenites”!!!…But it’s troublesome for you to reject all that I throw in your faces from his own damn ?Mediot"s….Ha Ha! Ha!>>>>
“Info Wars”…..Down—n- Dirty!!!….Just because I’m an Unreformed “HateTripper”!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
hahahaha
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Im off the Chucky bandwagon.
Yes, he was a great coach. Maybe he still he, but the football days of early 2000’s are different than today. Back then, defenses win you championships. Now? High powered passing offenses and defense that help get you turnovers seem to win games. Back then the running game was vital to an offense. Now? The playoff teams seem to have the running game compliment their passing game.
But that’s not the sole reason why I don’t want to bring in Chuck. His days of a head coach are over. Today he is, to me, an annoying analyst who has this cheesy interview session that takes place on his bus. I want a younger coach with fire. A coach who is great with players, and knows today’s NFL standards. But a coach with fire is not something I only want. I want a schemer. someone who can come up with smart gameplans. I feel that Chucky’s coaching days are behind him. I liked him when he was with Oakland, and I know that he has a winning resume. But today poses a different NFL than when he was coaching. I feel that getting Chucky will be fine, but I don’t know if it will be ideal. I may be wrong, but I would rather Mckenzie bring in someone he knows, and is familiar with today;s NFL, and his vision of helping the Raiders be a winning franchise again. I don’t think Chucky is the answer now. The boat has sailed for me…..
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Defenses still win championships
For the regular season, teams with shitty defenses can mask themselves as good as long as they get turnovers and have play makers that can ball hawk. In the playoffs, as we have seen year after year, offense doesn’t hold as much weight as we think. Good teams with solid overall defense almost always win the big game. Take the Pats and their near unbeaten run they had, until the Giants caught em. Or when the Pats D held down the greatest show on turf with the Rams. Or Pitt and Seattle in that terribly officiated game. The Packers got far this year, but ran into defensive buzz saws in Kansas City and New York. The Saints ran into the 49ers. It does not bode well for the Pats coming up (either Baltimore, New York, or San Francisco if it gets that far). I agree on the running game, it really doesn’t mean much anymore. Remember when TD was a beast for the Donks? He carried them more than Elway. I liked Gruden, I won’t be opposed to his return, but you make good points. The game has changed. I also don’t think he really wants to come back either. He has a nice, stress free job and is paid well. Alas, to me at least, coaching prospects are kind of weak thus far. No way Dungy or Cowher come out, same with Jimmy Johnson. Rebuilding will suck man, luckily for you you have the Patriots to fall back on.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
"Chuckie Cheeze" Wasn't Much In "TB" With All That Athority!!!
Career record 95–81–0 (Regular Season)
5–4 (Postseason)
100–85–0 (Overall)
With Raiders: 40–28
“TB”: 60-57
Do you see a pattern here???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
The Raiders Ended His Career And Won't Reurect It Now!!!!
Going into December the Buccaneers were on pace to make the playoffs, claim a bye week and have home field advantage. However, the Buccaneers went winless in the month of December, in no small part due to a defensive collapse that saw the team give up an average of 30.75 points per game. On December 28 the Buccaneers were eliminated from making the playoffs by the Oakland Raiders, the team Gruden left for Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers ended the season with four losses in a row, and Jon Gruden was fired by the Buccaneers on January 16, 2009, after seven seasons with the team.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Yeah he was awesome in Oakland
but then his spirit was broken from being forced to leave his beloved Raiders.
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And he still had a winning record in TB
and a significantly better record than the combination of coaches we had over that time frame or ever had since.
Hell I would have killed for 60 and 57 over that period
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and you also must take in to account the Bucs have the cheapest owners in the league
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That fumble seems to have killed NO
They look dead in the water now. SF wants it way more so far.
Damn, I thought this game would be good
But so far it’s a blowout in the wrong direction. Saints suck away from home in the postseason…very disappointing.
Oh. My. Fucking. God.
Get the Saints some fucking Stickum.
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Jimmy Graham is a beast
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Damn right.
What was with the no call on that sideline catch earlier? Any Raider would be flagged for unnecessary roughness.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
WOW what a throw
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Wow!!!...Now What Will All The Talk be If "NO"s Ties This Thing Up Before The Half??
That Frisco “D” won’t be pimped for shit looking like ours!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Jeez
SF’s corners are running the routes for the receivers.
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I really wanted Carlos Rogers last offseason
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You should put the feedback link in your post.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Y'know, for all the numbers the Saints put up
They don’t seem to have a real go-to guy besides Graham.
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i think they dipped the ball in butter before giving it to the saints today
how many fumbles is that? yeesh
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 14, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Is there another harbaugh
Brother we don’t know about for our next head coach??? Lol
by aToomb Raider on Jan 14, 2012 5:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
theres a sister
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jan 14, 2012 9:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
the sister needs to start having babies with the mannings
that would be a great football pedigree. I’ll be that matchmaker lol
Who let the emging star Sterling Moore go?
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
Yikes!!!...Looks Like Those Salem Witches Cursed That Frigging ASS!!!
Yikes!!!…Looks like those Salem Witches cursed that frigging ASS!!!
45-10 w 3 ticks left….No T-Magic in sight!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Urgent Breaking News From The "Mule Valley"!!!....
Elway puts “Donkey Magic” on the Chopping Block!!!
Any takers on the “T-Bowne” Steak???….Tune in later for full reports on the “MuleHead’s Religious Crusades” and “Crucifixion Of Elway”!!!
How dare he let that god blessed 35% passer slip away???
LoL!!!…The Mighty Blessed Tebow!!… 9/26 136yds
"Tebowphobe"!!!
hahaha
you must be pretty happy right now PR :)
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So Now Do You Think Elway Goes After A New "QB"???...I Would Say YES!!!
The Oregon “QB” just announced he will go in the NFL draft…Although it would be to our advantage to have then keep Tebow and continue their failures on the “O” I hope they don’t…I just can’t stand to go threw another NFL season of this constant religious crap!!!….At least out of the AFCW and I will lose my “Tebowphobe” signature and NOT give a damn!!!
I do kinda hope we play them 1st game of the year again though….Nice to set them in the hole 1st game out!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Yeah I am surprised DT declared a little upset about that but we should be ok
I still think Elway will stick with Tebow for another year.
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Although I Find "NE" Quite Disgusting YES!!!!.....STOP That Armless Running ASS!!!
Salem Witches-1
Religious Fanatics -0
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Tebow after a blowout loss to the Pats:

Proud to be a brony.
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Nice
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NO Changes Yet On Administration -n- Only The "WR" Coach Has Been Removed???
“SuckChuck” continues to be listed as “DC”???
Raiders | Cliff Branch to be next WR coach?
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:35:21 -0800
Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie has said he would hire his own staff, but expect former Raiders WR Cliff Branch to get attention as a potential wide receivers coach.
What…No Timmy?
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Season review -- Raiders DL....Interesting Read But Grades Us At D+???
And while the defense as a whole needs to be rebuilt, Mike Waufle’s unit needs the least amount of tweaking. Still, there are rumblings of the Raiders switching to a 3-4 base alignment next season. That would require major construction as most of the Raiders’ talent on the defensive side of the ball is in the front four.
Read more: Season review — Raiders DL
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
"Tebowphobe"!!!
gruden
Don’t wanna coach. Makes same money at ESPN with zero stress and a tenth of the work load.
Don’t shoot the messenger, he told me himself.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jan 14, 2012 9:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
hahaha
so you think he was going to give YOU the scoop on him returning t coaching?
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by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jan 15, 2012 7:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ok totally off subject did anyone see Larry Fitzgerald on NFL gameday final I felt bad for the guy lol
Most akward commentary I’ve ever seen let’s just say hes not going into analyzing after he retires haha
by 209raider on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Im a little glad that the raiders didnt make the playoffs
not only do we save a draft pick, but if we beat the steelers(probably). we would have had to watch tom brady rip our weak secondary apart.
We didn't save any draft picks
the deal for Carson was rd #1 2012, rd #2 2013 unless we make a AFC championship game in either 2011 or 2012, doing so would elevate the 2013 rd2 pick to 2013 rd 1.
NO MERCY!
by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Jan 15, 2012 7:02 AM PST up reply actions
Dammit!
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
The score would have been something lik 45-24.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Well Hue Must Be Calling The Plays For The Ravens...LoL!!...Up 17-14 -w- 4th-n-1...Go For It And Fail!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I am just hoping GB loses so we can kick this coaching search in to gear
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But OZ...
Gruden does not coach for Green Bay
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Its says we 'WANT' Chucky not that Chucky is the most likely scenario
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It sounds like the search for our new head coach is wide open
So until it’s decided I’m going to continue to pimp Gruden and I think I’ll add Mike Nolan or Steve Spagunuolo as DC to the pimping package…what the hell, maybe Del Rio too!
I’d prefer we go with an offensive minded head coach and get one of these stud DC’s to handle the defense.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
I kinda want Ravens-Giants.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
I am going of to go out on a limb and say the Packers DB coach is not getting an interview with the Raiders
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Hakeem Nicks 150 yards and 2 TD's in the first half
crazy
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Why??...E. Manning 14/24 274yds 2 "TD"s 1 Int For 1st Half???....LoL!!!
NYG GB
First Downs 12 12
Total Yards 311 170
Passing Yards 274 112
Rushing Yards 37 58
Penalties (Yds) 1(5) 1(10)
Turnovers 1 1
Punts (AVG) 0(0) 2(30)
Time of Pos. 16:38 13:22
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Eli has a 108.7 QB rating.
Rodgers has an 88.8
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
I would blame Rogers for that loss
3 fumbles, 6 dropped passes and 1 pick lost that game.
Plus that Packers “D” put exactly zero pressure on Manning, it was like watching us.
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
^ wouldn't put the blame on Rogers^
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Well
I think the NY staff is gonna be a target for our coaching raid.
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I Would Be Happy With Moss If We Keep Our "O" Intact...But Who On "NYG" Would You Target???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Their defensive coordinator, maybe
And DB coach.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Or not.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
They Have Not Been A Very Consistant Team This Season...Looked Like They Were Out And Than Got Back In...
More I think that the other teams collapsed than the “NYG” were good???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
the Giants were the most injured team in the NFC
and now they have their players back, that was why they were inconsistent early on
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Sorta Old News But New Posts:
Raiders | Want to interview GB coordinators
Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:49:17 -0800
The Oakland Raiders are interested in interviewing Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin and defensive coordinator Dom Capers for their vacant head coaching position.
Raiders | Will meet with Winston Moss
Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:30:27 -0800
The Oakland Raiders will meet with Green Bay Packers inside linebackers coach Winston Moss about their vacant head coaching position.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
WoW!!!...Now That Was A very Damn Dumb Call....That "OC" Is Out Of The Hunt!!!
That was dumber than anything Hue would have done!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Well Maybe Hue Talking Had An Effect Afterall???
Goodell aims for consistency in way league’s rules are applied
BALTIMORE — Aiming to ensure that NFL rules are enforced the same way from game to game, the league will consider making about 10 officials full-time employees next season.
As of now, all game officials are part-time employees.
Responding to a question about consistency in officiating while speaking to a group of about 75 fans before Sunday’s divisional playoff game between the Baltimore Ravens and Houston Texans, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the proposal would bring a group of officials to the league offices in New York to help review game films and evaluate the calls.
The officials then would be spread out among the crews at games.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Down 30-13 -w- 7 mins Left...I Would Say The Interviews Can Get Underway This Week!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Yeah.
Still want Chucky.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
you're a negative nancy
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Supper Positive When Positive...Aggressively Negative When Negative...Peaks-n-Valleys of Extremes!!!
That’s me!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Now I Dig It!!!...The Whole Deal Today Is "GB" Misses Reggie!!!....Down 30-20....
Now need to recover 2 onside kicks and score twice more in < 5 mins….Ya
"Tebowphobe"!!!
2 Dumb Moves That Cost Them This Game:
1st taking that “TO” with only 15 ticks left in the half….Gave the “NYG” time to score!!!
2nd going for it on 4th -n-5 at the Giants 40….Dumb-Dumb-Dumb!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Maybe We Need To Get Our New "DC" Fron Either The Ravens or....."SadFranchise"???
Damn that was painful to post!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Here Are The Top 5: Who We Should Be Interviewing "DC"s From...
Total Defense (YPG)
…#1. Pittsburgh Steelers 271.8
…#2. Houston Texans 285.7
…#3. Baltimore Ravens 288.9
…#4. San Francisco 49ers 308.2
…#5. New York Jets 312.1
Passing (YPG) Complete List
…#1. Pittsburgh Steelers 171.9
…#2. Cleveland Browns 184.9
…#3. Houston Texans 189.7
…#4. Baltimore Ravens 196.2
…#5. New York Jets 201.0
Rushing (YPG) Complete List
…#1. San Francisco 49ers 77.2
…#2. Baltimore Ravens 92.6
…#3. Miami Dolphins 95.6
…#4. Houston Texans 96.0
…#5. Chicago Bears 96.4
"Tebowphobe"!!!
If I can't have Gruden...
I wouldn’t mind us interviewing Vic Fangio the niners DC for our HC job, he’s got those guys playing at an extremely high level.
Of course we can’t interview him until the niners are eliminated or win the Super Bowl…God help us!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
The #'s Ain't Pretty For The "D" But I Still Like Winston Moss....
NYG GB
First Downs 19 25
Total Yards 420 388
Passing Yards 325 241
Rushing Yards 95 147
Penalties (Yds) 3(30) 3(20)
Turnovers 1 4
Punts (AVG) 2(40) 2(30)
Time of Pos. 28:59 30:25
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I don't even care who Reggie picks at this point
Just want to get it settled and get down to the business at hand.
Sigh.
Still prefer Chucky.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
And after today
I don’t want a GB coach that much.
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by ROFLCOPTER16 on Jan 15, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Well Allot Of It Was On Rodgers....3 "TO"s....2 By The "QB"....
Than some really dumb decisions on the “TO” and going for the 1st on 4th n 5….
But “GB” just looked to be off and having a bad game while early on the “NYG” were hot…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Give the Giants some credit, they're playing very good on both sides of the ball....
Giants will win the Super Bowl I just feel it
Giants Pats rematch perhaps?
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I want Giants - Ravens....cant stand those Pats....
But Giants – Patriots would be a GREAT Super Bowl….especially with the Giants winning again…
No so sure Chucky is a good idea.
Sure he was good several years ago, but now? Why did he leave coaching? Was it because he no longer had the fire or the work ethic to continue with the long hours needed to get the job done?
My money’s on Reggie to find us our new coach. I liked Chucky but not sure I Like Chucky.
We got to get gruden back in oakland
Honestly… Why not. What do we have to lose.
by drc84 on Jan 15, 2012 9:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
EveryThing!!!....LoL!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
extactly!
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No Chucky!
I don’t want a Jon Gruden reboot. He crushed us in the Super Bowl – I can’t forget that! Yes, he has Al Davis to thank for everything, but his time has come and gone. His business with the Raiders is over, leave it alone.
Instead, I want Jon Gruden 2.0. Find a new guy; a new young guy with the same fire. Find a Mike Tomlin-type guy. A young guy with energy and who can command respect. And let him be fierce! Don’t shackle him. Bring in a guy who can clean house and put a hard stamp on the team.
Release Richard Seymour! And trade McFadden and Rout!
oh cares
Gruden will take the raiders to the super bowl with these guys! why get a new guy that don’t know his asshole from his clip board I want a damn super bowl next year not 50 years from now!
With our defense? The only bowl we are going to is the Techmo Bowl.
by gerrypugliese on Jan 19, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Give Me Mr Gruden
Why go for a tired retread (Dom Capers), or a bunch of new guys with unproven records? The favourite Winston Moss has never been a coordinator at ANY level, let alone a head coach.
Gruden is a proven winner who is loved by the Raider Nation. He also loves the Raiders.
Give me Gruden please!
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luv to have gruden come back , however.....
is it possible that gruden wants more besides being a hc? more money? descions on coaches, draft picks signings, hiring, firing etc.. if madden is talking to gruden, and madden can help mark davis, reggie understand then maybe. but i also feel gruden cant have alot of pwer also but to be involved with operations.
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