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Early Thoughts on Possible Raider Roster Moves



I won't take much time reviewing the season here, I want to get down to business. This is my favorite part of the season, the offseason, which unfortunately, has started early for Oakland yet again. However, there's some good looking FA's out there at areas of need for Oakland.

With I believe three or four draft picks (depending on compensatory picks for Miller and Nnamdi), this team will definitely have to build through free agency. It'll be interesting to see what the new coaching staff will have in mind whenever they're assembled. Maybe a 3-4 defense? Maybe a West Coast offense? Who knows? So I'll just delve right in on with my preferred possibilities.

Star-divide

First thing I would do, and I know this will be very unpopular, trade Darren McFadden. Look, I love the guy and love what he does on and off the field. However, this guy cannot stay healthy. Darren is a top-3 running back when healthy, but he's still never put in a full year and injuries begin to stockpile. He hasn't been so injured that teams wouldn't trade for him, but he's injured enough that we can afford to do so.

With Adrian Peterson seemingly out for half of next year (as well as needing time to readjust to NFL football), I think Minnesota would be a viable trade option. Go after that high second round pick and maybe throw in a fifth or sixth. If not Minnesota, maybe Cleveland would be interested due to Hillis possibly leaving and health concerns with their backfield.

I'm sure the Raiders could easily find a trade partner, but I wouldn't settle for less than a mid-second plus a late round pick.

Next would be either re-sign Michael Bush cheap or let him walk. Yes he nearly got 1,000 yards, but he's so horribly inconsistent and has the frequent issue of running into his own blockers. Bush just can't find the holes. I think he has all the potential in the world, but he's not worth whatever his next contract will pay him.

"So wait, you want to blow up the backfield?" Yes. The defense has personnel issues everywhere and we need both the money and the picks to rebuild it. And it's not like it'd be too difficult to get a good backfield. Miami got rid of Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams but managed the 11th best ground game in football. Good running games are made by good offensive lines, and the Raiders certainly have that. If Miami can be 11th. with Reggie Bush, Daniel Thomas, and Steve Slaton, then I'm sure Oakland can find the pieces at RB to manage.

Here's my preferred options at tailback for Oakland:

1. Jackie Battle

He did well filling in for the injuries in Kansas City's backfield averaging 4 ypc and racking up 597 yards. At 6'2", 238 pounds, Battle has plenty of power to his game which would help with replacing Bush. PFF gave him a +5.4 rating and he's overall a solid running back who would come very cheap.

2. Ryan Grant

Only if he comes cheap. Injuries are a concern for Grant but he's a good back when healthy. Between James Starks and Brandon Jackson, he didn't get much play for Green Bay. He's still a good all-around back and I think would fit in very well in Oakland, but like I said, injuries are an issue.

3. Peyton Hillis

He'd cost more than the other two and had injury issues, but Hillis doesn't have a large history of injuries and is a talented back. Powerful runner with good hands and good pass protection. Hillis knows how to find the holes unlike Bush. Definitely a starter in this league. Had a bit of an off-year, but Cleveland had no threat of a passing game.

4. BenJarvus Green-Ellis

Could be hard to get, but would be well worth it. He barely sees any carries in New England. This is the epitome of a balanced back. Doesn't excel at anything, doesn't lack in anything. The New England O-Line didn't really help much in that it's not a run blocking line by any stretch of the imagination. However, Green-Ellis managed the most of his limited opportunities and would probably like to get more. Can't see New England going after him given they hardly ever run.

5. Mike Tolbert

It would be nice to steal him away from San Diego, though I have my doubts on this. San Diego loves to pass and Ryan Matthews seems like he's finally the guy at RB. However, Tolbert is a good rotation back and has some of the better hands out there for a RB. 5'9", 243, he has plenty of power and is a mismatch out of the backfield. Had a 4.1 YPC average and could do even better behind a good O-Line. San Diego might look for a cheaper power back option, and I think Oakland should try hard for Tolbert.

Ideally, we'd end up with a Green-Ellis and either Hills or Battle. If not, there's still the young Taiwan Jones and options in free agency and the draft. RB's aren't hard to find in the NFL.

What is hard to find, is some good O-Line play. Oakland was a mixed bag last year. Either great or horrible, there was hardly much consistency. Jared Veldheer is the only guy to write home about, though Stefen Wisniewski looked good towards the end of the year. It's time to say goodbye to Cooper Carlisle though, and Khalif Barnes might not be far behind. It'd be nice if Bruce Campbell would finally step in at either area on the right side of the line, but if not, here's some options I like at RG and RT.

RT:

1. Demetrius Bell

Bell had a good year for Buffalo and blocked for the great Fred Jackson. Buffalo might not know what they have in Bell (after all, they do start Erik Pears on the other side). A balanced all-around tackle, Bell's 6'5", 311 pound frame would fit in nicely at RT in Oakland. Oakland should push hard for Bell, who could also rotate over to guard if needed.

2. King Dunlap

Served well in limited snaps in Philadelphia, Dunlap has good potential having blocked for LeSean McCoy. He's an absolute animal at 6'9" 330 pounds, and would surely come cheap. Only four years in the league, Dunlap is still growing and developing. I think he'd be a good starter at RT in Oakland.

3. Anthony Collins

Another guy with limited snaps, Collins is another young, developing tackle. Cincy's got two good tackles in place, so Collins is basically a third wheel. I doubt they give much effort in signing him. Collins is definitely the third option here, but is a good third option.

RG:

1. Geoff Hangartner

This guy played a lot of snaps (1072) for Carolina, and managed a solid season. He's a bit small at 6'5", 301, but he's deceptively strong. Carolina had a good O-Line last year, and Hangartner was a foundation of that.

2. Ramon Foster

I don't like picking up anyone from Pittsburgh's O-Line, but he wasn't a bad option at guard. The epitome of average, he's at least a step up from the horrors of Carlisle. He's still young though, and I'd like to see what Wylie could do with him. Kid has potential.

Getting Hangartner or Bell would be fantastic, Bell being my top free agent priority. That guy is legit. In a perfect world it'd be Bell at RG with either Dunlap or Collins at RT. Sadly, this isn't a perfect world in Oakland. The thing farthest from perfect was the defense.

There's been a lot of speculation as to whether or not to switch to a 3-4. Personally, I prefer the 4-3 as it requires fewer personnel moves. However, for those 3-4 fans, here's how the defense would be as a 3-4.

LE: Lamarr Houston

NT: N/A

RE: Richard Seymour

LOLB: N/A though you could in theory have Trevvor Scott, Jarvis Moss, possibly Matt Shaughnessy, or Quentin Groves.

ILB's: Aaron Curry and Rolando McClain

ROLB: Kamerion Wimbley.

Immediately we see a lack of guys with 3-4 OLB experience and a NT. Some will say John Henderson for 3-4 NT, but he's a tad too old for that and gets tired quick. So we would need a NT and an OLB. Broderick Bunkley is a FA but I guarantee Denver will do everything to re-sign him. That guy is an animal.

Anonio Garay did well in SD at NT, but again I see them trying hard to resign him. I think Garay could be gotten, but the chances are low.

Aubrayo Franklin is the real prize if the Raiders switch to 3-4. He was dominant beast in San Fran before coming to New Orleans and their 4-3 where he had an off year. I think a return to a 4-3 would be just what he needs, and due to that off year and even lack of interest last year, Franklin could come cheap. Plus Kelly Gregg is a FA again.

Anyone thinking Sione Pouha can forget it, no way the Jets let him walk. Paul Soliai is much the same with Miami.

As for OLB, Ahamd Brooks might be the only guy worth a look, but the Niners will probably do their best to keep him. He also has no real reason to walk. Clark Haggans is the absolute last resort option.

Staying 4-3 gives us more options and continuity. I think the Raiders will stay as a 4-3 next year, though a 3-4 wouldn't upset or surprise me. Staying 4-3, we still have some holes to fill defensively.

It may be time to finally trade Tommy Kelly or Big Rich. There's no way this team can win using two UT's at DT. In fact, I don't think any team could win like that. Either way, a spot needs freed up at DT for a consistent run stuffer. So who might we be looking at for such a role?

1. Rocky Bernard

At 301 pounds, he's not your traditional run stopping DT. But this guy is incredibly strong. Bernard brings the savvy of another smart veteran D-Lineman. The emergence of Thompson might lead the Giants to let him walk, but I think they'd be stupid to do so. If he does indeed become a FA, the Raiders would be smart to go after him. Sadly, we don't have Waufle to lure him over.

2. Gary Gibson

The moves St. Louis has made might convince Gibson to give them another try. The young animal of a run stuffer would be great to have. I think Seymour could do wonders tutoring him. All 3 of his career sacks came last season, so it would seem he's starting to develop some pass rush on the side. Doesn't get much recognition as he's a block eater, but that's just what Oakland needs.

3. Sammie Lee Hill

Restricted, but with Corey Williams, Suh, Cliff Avril, and Nick Fairley, I don't think Detriot would try too hard at matching offers. I loved this kid coming out of college and was hoping Oakland would draft him. He's massive at 6'4, 329 pounds and would definitely play the role of the space eater. Very young and still growing, Hill would be an amazing pickup.

Then we move on to OLB. Maybe this will be fixed one day. Aaron Curry was a mix of great and terrible and is god awful in coverage. Wimbley is too slow to play OLB and should just be moved to DE. Ideally Goethel learns to stay healthy and mans one of the spots. If not, two OLB might be needed. I'd like a high draft pick here, but there are good free agents to be plundered.

1. Leroy Hill

Seattle was the top rushing defense in the NFL, and LeRoy Hill was certainly a factor in that. His speed and agility make him great at sealing the edge and shooting through the gaps. The latter also being true in terms of pass rush as he racked up 4 sacks. His coverage isn't great, but it is better than his former teammate's. With hopefully more blitzing next year, Hill would be an amazing addition if Seattle is dumb enough to let him walk. They did go into this year with Whitehurst and Jackson at QB after all.

2. Manny Lawson

Perhaps more likely is a guy I wanted last year in Manny Lawson. Between Maualuga, Rivers, and Howard, the Bengals have linebackers to burn. Lawson is an all-around good OLB who's best attributes are his intelligence and instincts, two things the linebacking corps are sorely lacking. Lawson would be worth every penny.

3. Phillip Wheeler

The Colts may look to blow up that horrible defense with everyone but Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis hanging around. Wheeler was actually a pretty good LB. The woes of Indy's run D can be placed on one of the worst run stopping D-Lines in the NFL, and Wheeler's rep suffered for it. So much so that he might be overlooked and left hanging for cheap. Whoever ends up with Wheeler is getting a steal at OLB. Guy also does wonders in coverage.

Finally we reach the crux of the matter, the secondary. CB was weak last year, but has potential even with its current group. Van Dyke was great early on and horribly underrated. I was actually surprised at the fact he was allowing less than half the passes thrown his way to be completed. There's also Chimdi Chekwa, who played well when healthy and has lots of potential. Chris Johnson isn't a bad corner, and Routt was a great corner until he was called for an ungodly amount of penalties.

So what lies out there at corner for the Oakland Raiders?

1. William Middleton

With the Jags banged up corner, two players stepped up to give them solid corner play throughout the year. Ashton Youbouty, and William Middleton. Middleton had a surprisingly good year having a higher PFF rating than the Niners' Carlos Rogers. Though in half the snaps, Middleton showed he has great potential. In only his third year, Middleton could come cheap with the Jags getting back players like Derek Cox and Rashean Mathis. Underrated, even by his own team, Middleton could be a great help to Oakland's cornerback group.

2. Dimitri Patterson

He didn't have the best year for Cleveland, but Patterson did get better as the year went on. Filling in for Joe Haden and Sheldon Brown at different points, he's a young, raw player. He has shown potential for being a playmaker having a four interception year with Philadelphia in 2010. Definitely worth a look.

3. Tim Jennings

Though he played Tampa 2 with the Bears, Jennings is an agile, physical corner who could come in and play man with Oakland. Jennings had good year as the nickel corner in Chicago, though they would have been smart to start him beside Charles Tillman. Jennings is definitely starter quality, but his nickel days show he can play in the slot, which the Raiders could use. Corey Graham had a good enough of a year that he might warrant a re-sign to play nickel over Jennings, leaving him for Oakland.

I doubt the Raiders could lure Cortland Finnegan over, though it would be great if they could. But I think Tennessee knows that they had the best group of corners last year and will try to keep it that way.

I don't believe safety is too much of a need for the Raiders, especially not if McKenzie is smart and keeps Branch and Giordano. Huff and Mitchell still worry the heck out of me and are greatly overrated in my book. I know I bring about a lot of moves and ideas for change, but we must remember this team was lucky not to be 5-11. Teams kept getting injuries at just the right time for Oakland. Whether it was Peterson going down against the Vikings, Caleb Hanie starting for the Bears, not having to play Jamaal Charles all year, Dombrowski starting at LT for San Diego, etc. There was also the fact that Seymour had to block two field goals for the win over Kansas City.

There's been a few people who have talked of trading Jacoby Ford for much the same reason as Darren McFadden. Personally, I'd keep Ford, but I can see where they're coming from. Just to humor this, here's some options for what's out there at WR (I think Oakland could use one anyway)

1. Plaxico Burress

Huge and sure-handed, his attitude is a major concern and is why I'd pass on him. However, if the team feels they can manage him, Burress could be a great weapon for the arsenal.

2. Deion Branch

This one might be hard to pull off, but I could quite frankly see New England letting him walk. Branch is still a solid receiver who could give Oakland another threat.

3. Jerricho Cotchery

This is the guy I really want, whether Ford is traded or not. Cotchery is a tough receiver with great hands. Pittsburgh's depth at receiver might lead them to letting him walk, in which case, Oakland should be all over him. The team could use a possession receiver like Cotchery.

4. Ted Ginn Jr.

The only guy out there similar to Ford's skill set. Had a bad year but is still a true gamechanger like Ford.

These are just my preferences as to some early FA's that I feel Oakland should be looking into. I feel Oakland should re-sign Tyvon Branch, Matt Giordano, Samson Satele, Marcel Reece, Chaz Schilens (cheap), Desmond Bryant, Jarvis Moss, Michael Bush (only if cheap), and Rock Cartwright (special teams purposes).

Here's a couple other guys at random positions I wouldn't mind having brought in:

1. Tom Zbikowski

Ravens might try to re-sign hm as an Ed Reed successor. If not, the guy is a tough, physical safety and an animal on special teams.

2. Larry Grant

Limited snaps as a MLB in San Francisco playing behind the great Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman. Good depth, good competition for Rolando McClain, could even make starter. Nice 3-4 ILB option if we were to switch to it.

3. Mewelde Moore

Not a good runner, but great hands out of the backfield and good blocker for a RB. Steelers have bit of a RB logjam and might move on from Moore.

4. Chris Pressley

FB who blocked for Cedric Benson in Cincy, why not?

But these are just my thoughts, what are your's?

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+1

Dont know why this is a main page topic.

by RAIDER_FAN15 on Jan 22, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

hell yeah

Don’t agree with a single idea…sorry dude

by Mob Figaz on Jan 22, 2012 6:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Chip Kelly is heading to Tampa.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have identified Oregon head coach Chip Kelly as the main target of their search for a new head coach and the two sides are involved in active contract discussions, multiple sources close to Kelly told ESPN.


According to Adam Schefter,
Kelly interviewed with the Buccaneers last week and the two sides are aiming to work out a deal within the next 48 hours, according to one source.

The Bucs will resolve talks with Kelly either way before proceeding further with their search, the source said.

A source told KGW in Portland earlier Sunday that Kelly is close to a deal with Tampa Bay.

One source close to Kelly told ESPN’s Joe Schad that Kelly, a good friend of former Bucs coach and current ESPN analyst Jon Gruden, has always had NFL in the back of his mind.

Kelly is intrigued by the challenge of coaching at the highest level and not having to deal with parents and the NCAA oversights that are inherent to coaching in college, the source told Schad.

Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.
-Mike Tyson

by R8rnation on Jan 22, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelly has decied to stay

+1 for Ducks fans!

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Jan 23, 2012 4:32 AM PST up reply actions  

+ more than that!

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Jan 23, 2012 7:16 AM PST up reply actions  

..

OREGON DUCKS ROSE BOWL CHAMPIONS - Time to drink Dr Pepper and ship stuff with UPS!!!!!

ONE NATION UNDER AL
Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.

by Ozraider on Jan 23, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

+2

This was more like of what not to do. Sounds like a Florida Marlins fire sale

by dawad34 on Jan 22, 2012 10:30 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah

I stopped reading after he said his favorite part of the season was the off season…

Sacramento Kings, Oakland Raiders. Best teams everrrrrrr

by Robby1987 on Jan 23, 2012 4:33 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Sadly, I agree with this

It’s not time to gut the entire team here. We have some talented pieces and sure we have some holes but it doesn’t mean you have to sell out your strengths to cover up weaknesses. McKenzie is supposedly a great talent evaluator and I am looking forward to seeing if he can find some diamonds in the rough that will fit best with this team and our new direction.

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Jan 23, 2012 4:36 AM PST up reply actions  

+2

Every man for himself...

by MMunoz33 on Jan 23, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait.

Did you say A MID SECOND plus a late pick for DARREN MCFADDEN??

This post is irrelevant now.

I am a Raider Fan. But I also a player's person as well.

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jan 22, 2012 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

thanks for just skimming the post

"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco

by KA1Z3R on Jan 23, 2012 3:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I doubt anyone would even give a 2nd round pick

Unless we trade with the Raiders…oh wait…nevermind.

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Jan 23, 2012 4:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, and being a person that watched the Jets 2-3 years ago,

COTCHERY’S HANDS SUCK. Cite the number of drops he had.

Stop trading away playmakers, and rebuild with the pieces that are had already. We have RBs set. We are close to having WRs set. TE is set. QB is set (only if we keep Campbell).

Use free agency and comb the wire to get the defensive pieces.

I am a Raider Fan. But I also a player's person as well.

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jan 22, 2012 2:22 PM PST reply actions  

Cotchery had a comeback year last year despite limited looks in Pittsburgh. Would be a solid #4. Not intending him as a starter.

"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco

by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Cotchery would be an expensive 4th WR

I’d rather promote Eddie McGee from the practice squad to be our 4th WR

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Jan 23, 2012 4:33 AM PST up reply actions  

If we keep campbell we can reverse global warming

Really, mrs. campbell, I’m sure your son is a nice kid and all but he isn’t going to be a raider anymore

by lchristmas on Jan 23, 2012 8:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

wouldnt trade dmc

Still really young and the best player bar none!! Ted ginn?! I have better hands than he does. Ford is just as fast and has wayyyyy better hands. Bold but I wouldn’t trade dmc especially now.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

+100

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

None of the rbs available can touch dmc even when he’s injured. Hillis was a one year wonder and got hit by the madden curse. Battle was ok at times but just as inconsistent as bush. Getting rid of bush is bad but both he and dmc? Nah.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

None of those backs are even better than Michael Bush

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

true dat!

Tolbert can break tackles but he fumbles and isn’t really a good rb unless he’s in goal line situations. Benjarvus will stay with the pats and he wouldn’t be worth the money. Id rather keep bush. Keep the whole backfield reggie!!!!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Tolbert got over his fumble issues this year. Only fumbled twice.

"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco

by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

still dont like tolber (charger hate/ bias aside)

I don’t think he can be a featured back. He is used for goal line situations.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

fair enough

"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco

by KA1Z3R on Jan 23, 2012 3:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I said keep Bush if it’s cheap, he’s not worth whatever money that teams will probably throw his way. Green-Ellis is untapped talent as is Battle, who would definitely thrive off an offense with balance. Hillis had a couple injuries him early but he doesn’t have a history of them. Hillis is more than a one year guy, just he finally had a year where someone actually gave him the ball.

"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco

by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hillis is a head case..

thats why denver gave him up so quickly and this year in cleveland was exactly what denver was afraid of.

Plus, Bush will probably be lost to free agency so you need to keep DMC, continue grooming TJ and pickup a power back- maybe like Brandon Jacobs (who is not exactly fulfilling his potential in NY)

by Dan Jacobson on Jan 22, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless were getting 2+ first round draft picks, trading McFadden is retarded. No one would take that trade either. We’d be lucky to get a 1st and third with his injury record. Sure we don’t have allot of picks this year but I don’t feel it’s a specifically great draft class anyways. 2013 is going to be far better. There’s no way we will retain value by trading McFadden for a late 1st. Again, trading McFadden would be retarded. Regardless of injury history, he wins us games when he plays. Not many players in the league can win the whole team games by showing up.

by Dark Hole on Jan 26, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn gronk is out for the moment and the pats are sputtering… my picks in the playoffs have been doin bad. I had the saints in the sb and they gone! So I have the pats winning the sb and they are losing!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Why trade DMC then pick up Grant if he’s good “when healthy”

by los r8drs on Jan 22, 2012 2:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Look, trading McFadden is just a thought but only if it’s for a second and a late round pick. Otherwise, keep him for sure. Anything else isn’t really worth it. I only humored the Ford trade because a couple people on another site mentioned it. It’s not a trade I’d do personally.

"That’s one thing I’ve been wanted to discuss with you. I’ve never mentioned my Orange Fanta crush…" - lullaby
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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade dmc. Bush isn’t a lock to stay and the free agent backs aren’t anything special. His contract is up in another year I believe, don’t know about reggies intentions in the future but for now he’s gotta stay. When he’s healthy and playing this team is dangerous. That and he’s my favorite player!!!!

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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
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by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly, when he’s healthy. Which will hopefully be more than what it was this year. However, I just don’t see it. And it’s not like I’m advocating to trade him immediately fo whatever you can get, I’d only do it if it’s fitting for what he is capable of (early-to-mid second plus a fifth or sixth).

Running back is overrated now in the NFL (coming from a guy who loves running backs). The line is where the running game is made. Green-Ellis is a good back, but he hardly ever gets a shot plus the Pats O-Line is terrible at run blocking. Battle is much like Bush and would be even better with a balanced offense.

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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Dmc makes the oline look better than it is at times. I read somewhere that he was the rb stopped behind the line, the most in the nfl! Don’t get me wrong the oline is much improved and solid but there needs to be a change at center and rt maybe rg. Wiz to center and get a lg and a new rt.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

No doubt the right side needs work and the line is inconsistent. But it’s a young, growing group and I think with a new RG could be something very special. Could run it all day to the left side until teams loaded up the left, then we were forced to running to the weak right side.

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"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco

by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

This line has the potential to be dominant for years! Rg and rt need to be taken care of first. Wiz is a good lg but he’s better at center. I hope barksdale is ready and able to step in and play at a high level at RT or guard.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I’d love for Barksdale to finally assert himself at RT. He was better than Barnes.

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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Barnes may have lowered his sack given up numbers but he still ain’t cuttin it! I’m glad veldheer has improved, we have our LT for the decade!

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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

sacks don’t tell the whole story, still gave up too much pressure.

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"As long as you’ve known kaizer? That’s like being friends with Lady Gaga and never mentioning that you like to dress up!" - J.R. Wilco

by KA1Z3R on Jan 23, 2012 3:58 AM PST up reply actions  

agree

he may have improved but would rather see him as a rotational guy

by SmashmouthFB on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Get me LaMiachael James and I would have to think a lot harder

Dmac is kinda going through an injury thing just his clock is ticking 5-6 years remaining to 30 year expiration date…

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

LaMichael James could fall down in the draft to possible second round. Success came in a gimmicky offense.

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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Watched his enire career I wish he would have stayed ! more year

He’s not a gimmick back hes a legit back he really ran a lot more inside this year and has hands coming out of the backfield.

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me too much of CJ Spiller personally. Guy is boom-or-bust to me and needs to come into the right scheme. A spread shotgun team like New England could do wonders

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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the shotgun

Especially with a QB like Palmer gives him a split second longer

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

he will be gone by the time the raiders pick sadly...

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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

most likely, but we already have a young speedster in Jones

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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He just has to get a lil more nfl body he's gonna be nice!

Just when you have a back like that in your offense you need 2 similar backs. Then when you get an injury your whole offense doesn’t have to change.

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

He might head to Tampa with Kelly

ESPN reporting the deal is in progress.

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-Mike Tyson

by R8rnation on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

We dont know the offense yet, he might be learning a whole new one.

He knows the players way better now and that will help but I have to doubt the offense is going to remain the same.

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by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

We shouldn't trade DMC, without him this team isn't even that good tbh

You guys saw what happened when he went down, we were never the same. And this Dline is designed for a 4-3 , if we are to go to a 3-4 we should trade one of our 4 d lineman for a NT. I’d probably deal Seymour but for now I think Kelly can hold down NT , people forget how massive he truly is, Seymour at DE and Houston/Nessey at the other DE

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by dubzfan on Jan 22, 2012 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

Kelly is terrible at run stopping as is, taking on two blockers in the middle would be terrible.

Exactly, the team isn’t that good without him. And we barely ever have him, let alone 100%. His injuries are racking up and it may be time to cut ties while he’s cheap and not glass like Schilens. Now’s the time to trade him if the team is inclined to, which is again, only if it’s an early-to-mid second and another late round pick. Otherwise keep him.

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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think kelly will stay. No team will trade a 2nd for him. Best dt in terms of sacks on the team. Seymour has helped him elevate his game with his presence and knowledge of the game even though kelly isn’t exactly young. Plus the dude is funny as hell!

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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 2:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Seymour needs a move to DE and a DT to come in. I know I mentioned him for 3-4, but I’d like Aubrayo Franklin. Though Sammie Lee Hill is my favorite.

Kelly would get a 3rd at best

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by KA1Z3R on Jan 22, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You are really underrating Kelly , he's one of the best DT's in the AFC

Our Dline problems stemmed from not having Nessey and the lack of gap discipline from our LB’s.

Henderson is signed for next year already so he can play NT as well. If we went 3-4 you’d see Kely and Henderson at NT no doubt

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by dubzfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

If it were my choice...

I move Kelly and Seymour

Houston back inside
Henderson right next to him
Shaughnessy Back to his spot
Wimbley back to an edge or restructure his contract so we can get a backer in his slot
Keep
Bryant and Moss

Fill needs in draft or fa

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If I got Ngata I'd be thrilled...

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

With Kelly what other options would we have though?

He’d be the best option

And DMC at 60% is better then anything we could get to replacement. And trading possibly the best RB in the NFL for a 2nd rounder who will likely be nowhere near as good is just idiotic

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by dubzfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

WAY too early to be looking at FAs

Raiders don’t even have coaching staff in place. What style of O are they going to run? What will their base D be? No one really knows, and thusly there is no way to tell what FAs are needed to be targeted.

If pressed to reach at FA guesses, I would think OLB and secondary should be high on the list. Free safety has been a poor spot for the Raiders for years! but has it been Al’s D that has been the problem or the players? A nice compliment to Routt would be Finnegan. He’s a scrapper and plays man to man as well as zone. Raiders haven’t had a pro-bowl caliber LB since Romo. BIG need there! KW is an end, not a LB. McClain regressed under panda, but that most likely could be due to panda more than him. Curry plays the runs and screens OK, but is a liability in pass coverage. These two areas are the weakest of the Raiders team without a doubt.

by TD Rader on Jan 22, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

damn i have the pats winnin

But I feel bad for reed and ray. Great players and cool dudes. Probably deserve another ring since this team has been close for a couple years.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 3:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I bet he’s happy he left oakland… I also bet hue is slapping himself for not keeping him not that it matters anymore..

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 3:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That was dumb for a guy they cut and Seattle picked him up Ron Parker

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Sterling was a camp favorite as was his brother from another mother dmoe. Would’ve helped the secondary. Bill got us again!! Moore helped the pats advance to the sb!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 3:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He also blew an easy tackle that helped the Ravens big time....

He looked like one of our DBs fucking up with a weak arm tackle.

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 22, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

+100000

rookie FS and making plays that hes making… the guy that signed off on him should be fired.. OOOPPSS maybe he was…

by skycrane on Jan 22, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow… that’s gotta hurt… my picl advances though but I feel bad for the ravens.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 3:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

My idea for the other OLB would be Mario Williams

A lot of analysts think the Texans might let him walk and he was playing pretty well at OLB until he got hurt

by footballfan2577 on Jan 22, 2012 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

damn analysts!!

Its like they are trying to rub it in the face of raider fans!! Yeah I know who sterling moore is and that he was taken off the raiders practice squad!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 3:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Time for the giants to win. Then its a rematch in the sb between ny and the pats. Pats then go on to win.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 3:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

nope!

As much as raider fans hate to see it. The NE brady bunch will win another ring.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 4:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Shows what you know.

The Giants have already played—and defeated—teams that are MUCH better than New England. Who have the Pats played that would give you such misguided confidence? Oh, the storied Denver Tebows? Or the overrated Ravens? Oh, yes, those are some real world-beaters right there. I don’t think I need to remind you how lucky they were to have the game so generously gift-wrapped to them by Baltimore. DUMB. Why don’t you go ahead and put all of your savings on that bet—every last penny you have. Please. Go do it. See where it gets you. On the streets. That’s where. This Giants squad is, arguably, even better than the one that beat the undefeated Pats in ‘07. But, like the old saying goes, you can’t argue with fools. You’ll never win.

"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige

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by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jan 24, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You think the Ravens are overrated?

Are you kidding me?

But fine. You want to play the regular season schedule game? Broncos did beat the Steelers in the playoffs. A banged up steelers, but they are the steelers none the less. Hell go look at the Packer’s schedule too. It;s not that spectacular either. The Ravens? they are a tough freakin team. Their defense is top 3 (and much better than the Giants), and they had the 2nd best RB in the NFL this year in Rice. They have a good WR core in Boldin, Torrey Smith (speedster and deep threat) and their two TEs are pretty good too in Pitta and Dickenson.

Here some thoughts. The pats were ONE DRIVE away from getting the lead against both the steelers and giants in the regular season. Offense failed on the last drive in the steelers game (Brady was missing targets that game), and the defense couldn’t stop manning on the final drive (pats had the lead but the defense couldn’t hold. They are much better now with spikes and chung back and now in the 3-4. Hell, when spikes and chung were in against the giants, they held the giants to 0 POINTS. The giants scored points when both those guys went down. Even Brady was not Brady making bad throws earlier that game but got better in the 4th).

Here is some unbiased confidence that the pats could win this game:

1) BB is a great gameplanner. Pats faced the Giants earlier in the year, and almost won. He should have good game tape from that game.

2) They got the best QB in the NFL

3) Defense is improved, and stronger. They are able to get pressure much more frequently now than earlier in the year (also stopped Ray Rice handily), and with Chung back and the emergence of sterling moore, their secondary is much improved. Arrington also did a fairly good job on Nicks in the regular season game

4) They are playing for something more than themselves. They want to win the superbowl not for themselves, but for Myra Kraft.

5) Brady is hungry

These factors, among other things I talked about, are things to consider for the patriots run to the superbowl. The Ravens missed the field goal and we won. Fine. We also won and put up 23 points despite Brady throwing 2 INTs and woody fumbling on a return (I believe we gave up 10 points off turnovers). Brady probably won’t be putting in that type of performance again. He had a bad game, but Brady rarely has a bad game the following game, and this so happens to be the most important one. The defense stepped up in the redzone against one of the better redzone offenses I believe.

There is no reason to think the pats don’t have a good chance of winning this game. Do the Giants have a chance? Absolutely. I feel like you are completely underrating the pats. They are still dangerous, and they are hungry. But we’ll see what happens.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Jackie Battle?

Darren Mcfadden for a second…wait mid second? I think my ears just blew up.. trade Jacoby Ford? Omg I’m blind. Plaxico Burress? Deion Branch? JERRICHO?! NOOOOO

The receiving core needs a little coaching up but they have massive upside/potential. Darren Mcfadden stays, just needs a good 3rd down back. Either draft one or resign bush. I don’t like Hillis, or Ryan Grant. Why trade an injury prone running back for a less explosive more lethargic slower injury prone running back? I like the Zbikowski pickup. but that was pretty much it.

Btw. Jackie Batttle licks absolute balls, actually Todd Haley’s balls. That is the only reason he was still on the roster. He isn’t quick, fast, can’t catch… and ugly.

by Richard Sanchez on Jan 22, 2012 3:40 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Great points (sarcasm)
Btw. Jackie Batttle licks absolute balls, actually Todd Haley’s balls. That is the only reason he was still on the roster. He isn’t quick, fast, can’t catch… and ugly.

by SmashmouthFB on Jan 22, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

may have worded it harshly

But he does make a point. He isn’t that good and id rather keep bush. Battle isn’t good, PERIOD.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 4:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

if ur gonna sign battle

Hell why not bring back fargas??!!! Id rather have him.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 4:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Sure was. Probably true as well.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 7:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

+1,000

Every man for himself...

by MMunoz33 on Jan 23, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Only thing I see happening is

Moss as HC
Saunders as OC
Dennis Allen as Dc or Bowels as Dc

Trade away guys not fitting in 3-4 and get picks

by RAIDER_FAN15 on Jan 22, 2012 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

I'm really glad

you have nothing to do with personnel for the Raiders; did not see one thing I agree with.

Raider 4 Life

by Raider1957 on Jan 22, 2012 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

Vernon davis is good but the dude needs to grow the fuck up!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 4:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

did he grow up?

He’s always had the talent to be a top 5 TE. Those two penalties were completely stupid! He might have toned it down but I don’t think he completely transformed.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 7:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

hes toned it down alot

NFC championship is a big stage. hes human and it went to his head. it happens to the best of them.

that celebration one was kinda lame tho. you can see that he forgot to think before acting and got exited. Hes young

by SmashmouthFB on Jan 22, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

If we trade mcfadden we get a 1st.

if anything, a 2nd this year and a first next year.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

I dont see anyhing there....

Ted Ginn? Really? Hillis? ….just another narcissistic head case. Deion Branch is way past his shelf life and only loooks like an operator because he and Brady have been team mates before and in another system would look like Ochocinco in NE.
I’m surprised Ovhocinco isnt on your wish list along with Cotchery and Buress.
It just sounds like a roll call of mediocrity.

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 22, 2012 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

My opinion

Dont trade Bush unless a 1st rounder is in the talks. If not then Franchise him.

Sign Bush

Go out and grab someone for the secondary. And a LB.

That is all we need. Another LB, and hopefully a FS. But most of all we need a DC and a HC.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

+1

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 22, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

DVD and Checkwa are going to be key for our secondary next year.

Routt and Branch are the only ones I depend on. I like Huff, but I feel he is inconsistent.

Watch them put Chekwa at FS, and DVD steps in at CB with CJ rotating in and in the slot.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

+1000

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

My bust..you want Fangio as HC?

I dont know about HC…was hoping for a younger, more dynamic guy…BUT..if he can fix our D and allow the OC do call the shots and keep his head out of his ass…then why not?

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 22, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I like his game plan

they don’t miss tackles you have to earn every touchdown

by Micheal Y on Jan 22, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

They did interview winston moss for like.... 4 hours.

I hope we grab him.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It also sounded like Bowles had 2 interviews?

Then nothing

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah. WOuldn't mind either one really. Rather have Moss though.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

NFL.com says the interview with Moss didnt go very well

Thank God I didnt want a Packer with the D they had…horrible

by RaiderPride20 on Jan 22, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Your only looking at yards.

Packers D is generally good. 19th in points and 14th in terms of rushing yards. But they were pretty this year. And they were top 5 in creating turnovers.

I know what you mean though. However they were #1 in terms of yards last year. I just think them letting go of Jenkins and the fact that their defense is predictable in terms of who blitzes.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

penalties were similar

For both defenses that was disappointing sop was 3rd down defenses that’s not improvement where we lacked. We were awesome on 1st and 2nd down 3rd and long forget it huge play.

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

They also have better defensive talent

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by samiam2112 on Jan 22, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I know about that.

EVen the packer fans say its foolish if the Raiders dont want Moss. he is a good defensive coach, and plays a bend but dont break defense this year. The defense gave up a ton of yards, but they get turnovers, and limit points. This defense needs a way to get turnovers to put it in carson’s hands. and mcfaddens.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

"he" doesn't play or run any defensive system actually

Hes an INSIDE linebacker position coach for gods sake. Who is watching his swinging gold watch and why?

by lchristmas on Jan 22, 2012 9:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah. well he did a pretty good job coaching up AJ Hawk. Who was a 4-3 OLB...

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

With the ravens loss

We can bring spagano in for an interview now

by dawad34 on Jan 22, 2012 10:46 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Isn’t bush a UFA? Raiders could franchise him but many (including myself) believe he isn’t worth that amount of money as a back up. I want him to stay but he prob wants big bucks and a starting role. With dmc here there is no way that’s happening. I think tyvon should be franchised unless he signs a long term contract of course. I think the raiders need to bring in another back to join dmc and tj.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 5:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Franchise McFadden. Then trade him if it will result in us getting a first rounder.

Sign Bush. Sign Tyvon.

Get a LB and FS. And a good DC and HC.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

If McFadden doesn't stay healthy for te majority of the year, trade his ass next offseason.

No use having a broken RB. But I am fine with having him for 13 games. Even 12 games.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Speakin of which

Any of those Pats coaches have contracts expiring this year? Any of them likely to want a promotion elsewhere?

by rightnasty on Jan 22, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll ask.

But I doubt it. I know that Bill O’Brien, our OC is heading to Penn State next year and McDaniels is going to be our OC next year. I’ll ask, but I don’t think we have anyone who is free this year.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

DMC aint a FA, cant franchise him

Franshise Branch then sign Bush

You can tag Bush with a 1st and 3rd and keep him that way as well

I’d move us to a 3-4 ASAP and sign a 3-4 OLB but if we don’t Wimbley should be moved to DE backing up Nessey and we should sign a LB

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by dubzfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I like us in a 3-4 if we can get a MLB and OLB.

Curry in the middle spells doom.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

If he is in for at least 12 games, then keep him.

The passing game will improve mark my words. Will take work off DMC who was definitely carrying the team. Plus a 3rd down back

by RaiderPride20 on Jan 22, 2012 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

lolololololol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should keep

D-Mac! I just don’t wanna see him torch us if goes elsewhere! And did you guys see Sterling Moore come up big for the Pats! We should have kept that dude!

by Tha E on Jan 22, 2012 5:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

dizzamn

Giants will win then move on to get beat by the pats

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 7:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

dizzamn

Giants will win then move on to get beat by the pats

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 7:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Preach it!

It’s actually kind of pathetic how devoted RK is to the Patriots.

"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige

Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.

by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jan 24, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants will win it all

They looked good on D and they will face a much more easier D in the Pats…lets remember the Giants already beat NE

by RaiderPride20 on Jan 22, 2012 7:35 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Pats will win!!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 7:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

i know

But I’m just choosing the better team. The pats d has improved didn’t ya see today? I don’t necessarily WANT em to win. I just picked them to win. I wouldn’t be surprised if ny won though.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 7:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Your ignorance is astounding.

The better team is the GIANTS, and it’s not even close. Dear God, you sound like a Tebow fan. “Oh, the Pats are just the greatest EVER!!!” Open your eyes, you fool! Giants have played—and destroyed—better teams than the Patriots, and like RaiderRoy says, their D is vastly improved. But you wouldn’t know that.

"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige

Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.

by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jan 24, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

im not too fond of ny either.

They are good but loud mouth muthaf’ers! Ever since that game in 09 when jruss was the qb and they beat the raiders 44-7. Even though the team was led by jruss their comments afterwards were garbage. There has to be a winner and I pick the pats.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 7:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

ahhhhhhhhh NO.

Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.
-Mike Tyson

by R8rnation on Jan 22, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

funny story...Greg Biekert might want the Pats to win

February of 2008 I was in Iraq and luckily wasnt stuck out at our patrol base for the super bowl….it came on around 1am or so Iraqi time and a few nfl players came to the chow hall to hang with the soldiers while we watched the super bowl. Mike Minter, Paul Posluszny, and Greg Biekert. I was able to chat with Greg and asked him who his pick was. He wanted the Pats to win. I was stunned. His last game as a Raider was when he recovered the “tuck rule” fumble. He said he wanted the Pats to finish their perfect season. I told him I respected that but due to an extreme hatred for the Patriots I’d have to cheer for the G-Men…just thought I’d share

by onedeepboricua on Jan 23, 2012 6:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Easy D?

The pats have gotten much better on defense. I don’t think it will be easy.

I expect a hard fought battle. Its going to get interesting.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems to be the redeem team this year.

(2010) Jets. beat the Jets handily twice this year in the regular season. They imploded as well.

(2009) Ravens. Check.

(2007) Giants. Unknown.

It seems lined up, but who knows what will happen.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 22, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

You could just as easily make the same argument for the GIANTS.

The parallels for them are endless as well. Sorry, but your Pats are going down. And I can’t wait.

"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige

Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.

by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jan 24, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

lol okay we'll see what happens.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

McFadden...

I totally agree with you. He is just not durable. I disagree with resigning Matt Giodarno. He is another Andrew Sweigert who is alway late in breaking up passes and can’t tackle or take bad angles.

by Archangel25 on Jan 22, 2012 8:02 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

seems like you dont even know what youre talking about

STEWART Schweighert. And McFadden trade would bite us in the ass, you seem to have been away from winning too much to recognize you need these playmakers to win games. McFadden is a beast and we have to keep him

by RaiderPride20 on Jan 22, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

completely agree

people say mcfadden isn’t durable, not counting this season he only missed i think around 6 of the 32 in the 2 seasons before. go look at all the other rbs in the league,your bound to miss some games. give the guy a chance… i dont know about you but i wouldnt want to play against him

by ryanmoore57 on Jan 22, 2012 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Marshawn lynch

Free agent back if we can’t sign Bush.

by drc84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

i dont think hes leaving seattle.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That's your problem.

You don’t think.

"If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless."
--Woody Paige

Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.

by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jan 24, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Interview between Raiders, Packers aide Moss didn't go well......Is This Just "Mediot" "BS"???
The Oakland Raiders recently met with Packers assistant head coach/inside linebackers coach Winston Moss in Green Bay about their head-coaching vacancy, and multiple league sources said the session didn’t go particularly well.

Moss, considered one of the early favorites for the job, is the fourth person to have been interviewed by Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie.

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 22, 2012 8:13 PM PST reply actions  

if its true it says 2 things

Their really serious about this search and or they already have narrowed it down to 2 (Bowels and mornwig or w.e)

by RAIDER_FAN15 on Jan 22, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Who is SF's defensive coordinator? He'd be a nice candidate

RIP Al Davis
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twitter - @nateoak5

by dubzfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

2009

The Packers fire their whole defensive staff except Moss. Yet when it comes time to hire a new DC, they pass over Moss and hire Capers.

by rightnasty on Jan 23, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

"09" Was 3 Seasons Ago...Right???...Things Can Change Over Time...

I’m much more concerned with what’s happening now that what happened in “09”…

This year’s “D” fell off really bad…Why is the question that needs answering…Is it just an example of the “SB-Blues” that strikes clubs the year they after they win making it difficult to repeat?…Than why did it only strike the “D”?…

I like Reggie and I believe this was a very good hire…But I’m not overly confident in any of the “HC” prospects that are listed as opportunities…Moss was my favorite but now I’m not even sure about that one…

Bill Cowher…That’s still the only name out there that would get me all excited and leaping off the walls!!!…It’s about the only guaranteed prospect that I can see…

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 AM PST up reply actions  

For in the playoffs it definitely struck their offense too

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Point is

If Green Bay wouldn’t trust him as their DC, why would we trust him as our HC?

by rightnasty on Jan 23, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

bucs hiring oregon coach chip kelly.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 22, 2012 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

You guys should

try playing madden with the raiders in 3-4 I like it. :) The computer puts Kelly and Seymour as the NT and shaunessy and Lamarr as DTs along with trevor scott and moss. I did this playing All madden and i dont usually play all madden

by RAIDER_FAN15 on Jan 22, 2012 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

I think Kelly would be a good end in the 3-4

but we can’t afford him and Seymour. One or the other for the (3-4) IF WE DID SWITCH…

Every man for himself...

by MMunoz33 on Jan 23, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

We May Need To Reconsider Our View Of The "GB" Packers If All Of This Is True???
Plenty share blame for Packers defense’s woeful showing

On March 2, the Packers cut A.J. Hawk to escape his $10 million guaranteed salary for 2011. The next day, they signed him for $33.75 million over five years.

It made no sense at the time for Thompson to give Hawk that kind of money.

What’s done is done. Hawk’s $8 million signing bonus can’t be brought back, but there is no more guaranteed money in his contract.

Despite stiff salary-cap ramifications, Thompson needs to get the Packers out from under Hawk’s $4.4 million base salary in ’12 either by trading him (good luck) or releasing him.

http://tinyurl.com/7nwxz5v

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 22, 2012 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

Hawk had a great season, not sure what they are talking about here. Seriously he made a lot of plays even in a struggling defense.

This seems like nothing but assumptions. Also, if he was due a 10 mil signing bonus and they cut him and gave him a 8 mil signing bonus then they saved 2 million! That is a good enough reason to do what they did. Besides all that, 4.4 million for one of your starting ILB is not very expensive at all, there is no reason for them to cut ties and I would be absolutely shocked if they would. Hawk was in the back field on runs all the time and made some very key plays. People in GB have bitched about him forever and this past year i did not hear a single negative peep out of anybody.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

i fully agree, it is nothing but bullshit to sell their words.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

didn't like what i seen.

had to post it, this shouldn’t have been posted on the main.

RAIDER NATION
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by AlwaysWinBaby on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 AM PST reply actions  

I would trade our entire secondary

that is under contract for Sterling Moore.

by rnpljnsn on Jan 23, 2012 3:45 AM PST reply actions  

lol i agree there but there is not a doubt in my mind we should have kept him anyway.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I was sad to see him leave...

Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP

by samiam2112 on Jan 23, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

With our defense, he might not have blossomed....

Perhaps NE had the right coaches. We sure didnt.

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Jan 23, 2012 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

He had one blown tackle that game.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

please explain

Why you think Minnesota would trade for Dmc?

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jan 23, 2012 6:43 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

yeah that might have been the strangest idea in the post

Can you imagine Peterson and McFadden in the same backfield though!! OMG that would be so sick lol now that i think about it to have those 2 together and only give up a 2nd rounder why wouldnt they make that deal? We shouldnt hand him to them like that but if they could make that deal i see no reason why they wouldnt anymore lol

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Trade the most dangerous player in the NFL?

Hate the idea of trading McFadden. The Raiders just need to figure out how to keep him healthy. Working with trainers in the off season or whatever it takes. McFadden is to valuable in the passing game as well. All RB’s take a pounding and prone to injury. Get him more involved in the passing game and look for another back just like him to share the load in the running game. That’s what Jones was drafted form hopefully he can turn into a little McFadden clone. As far as Bush, Hillis could replace him if need be. Raiders need a big running back. Heck, I rather see McFadden play WR than trade him. Yeah, he’s that good.

No reason to mess with the Raiders WR’s, unless you want to trade Schilens or Murphy for mid round picks. How come you didn’t talk about what the Raiders really need, DB’s? Trade them All!!!!!!!!! Raiders should have kept Sterling Moore.

by Captain Chaos on Jan 23, 2012 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

I expect Reggie to do what the Packers do in off season moves.

The Packers are always looking to improve the lines, rather if in the draft or free agency. I saw a chart on what kind of moves the Packers make over the last ten year on the blog tales from the dark side. Reggie was heavily involved on player personal moves. They don’t mess with RB’s, WR’s and other skilled positions that much.

by Captain Chaos on Jan 23, 2012 7:31 AM PST reply actions  

All The More Reason To Look At The "GB" "C"-n-"OT" Who May Be "FA"s This Season...

That “C” made the “PB” and would immediately free up Wiz II at “LG” and thus make the left side of our “OL” very good…The players for the right side may or may not be already on the roster but maybe now we can get big Campbell involved somehow instead of just taking up space on the roster???

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Packers were to let Wells go then absolutely pounce on him. He is a very good Guard as well as Center.

I dont see them giving him up though, they love their offensive line now and are set for years if they keep him. He is happy there and the offensive line is incredibly close knit. If there is any chance at all absolutely do it but i dont see it. As for OT are you talking about Chad Clifton? His knees are wrecked now and I think he might be retiring. He is just too old to go and get him for just one year. TJ Lang I would be willing to go after for the RT position though, he is playing guard for them currently but he is pretty beastly.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

They always are able to maneuver around the cap and are wizards with it, if they want to keep him they will.

If they dont keep him though it would be a major prize for us to go after, he can play either guard and center.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Left side of our OL is already very good.

We just need a RG and RT. I hope Bruce is up to the task, but it wouldn’t hurt to bring anyone in.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

WoW!!...So Insightful!!!
Here’s the run of Green Bay assistants in play in Oakland.

Earlier Sunday, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that Green Bay linebackers coach Winston Moss has interviewed for the Raiders’ head-coaching job. Now, CBS’ Charlie Casserly reports the Raiders have asked permission to talk to Green Bay defensive coordinator Dom Capers.

New Oakland general manager Reggie McKenzie was hired from Green Bay, where he was an executive, earlier this month. There are several other candidates for the job. McKenzie is expected to make the hire in the next seven to 10 days, Casserly said.

Schefter reported Philadelphia offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg may be one of the favorites for the job. He worked in Green Bay with McKenzie in the 1990s and he is a former head coach in Detroit.

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 8:19 AM PST reply actions  

I'm really starting to wonder if the HC will indeed get to pick his own staff???

I think he’s seeing who puts together the best staff and that’s going to be the decision…

We won’t get a big name cause of the uncertainty with the franchise;

No Gruden, Cowher, Billick, etc.

Every man for himself...

by MMunoz33 on Jan 23, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

i agree that we are unlikely to get a big name. but I think the franchise is in a better position now than at any point in the past decade

I have no doubt whatsoever that the HC will get to hire their own staff. Its what has always been the policy in GB and its what Reggie specifically stated. He doesnt offer information easily and when he does he means what he says.

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

2nd Look "Donkey"???
“Denver Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen has been invited to interview a second time for the Oakland Raiders’ head coaching vacancy, according to league sources”

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

He is not bad.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

i agree his defense played very well

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis

"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi

by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

That "Donkey" "D" By The #'s!!!
Allen, 40, presided over a defense that ranked 20th in total defense, 24th in scoring defense, sixth in third-down conversions, 28th in interceptions and 10th in sacks. The Broncos were 18th in passing yardage allowed and 22nd in rushing yardage allowed.

He described his defensive philosophy this way before the Broncos started in the season in an interview on the club’s Web site:

"We’re going to be built off of speed and athleticism. We want to be a very fast, violent, aggressive type of defense. I firmly believe that defensive football is not nearly as much about X’s and O’s as it is about the way you play the game, the culture of your defense. I think if you look at where i’ve been in the past, speed and athleticism and aggressive football players is the type of thing we’re looking for."

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Of the alleged remaining candidates, Allen is one of the better choices.

At least to me. Denver’s defense was solid (certainly better than GB’s has been). And his track records is pretty good. Plus, I like the thought of stealing away from Denver one of their better assets.

He wouldn’t be my first choice, but I wouldn’t be upset if he ended up being the guy chosen.

by Chris2814 on Jan 23, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I Will Add This: The Last Time We Took A Coach From That Damn "Donkey" It Was The "RAT"!!!

That proved to be a huge mistake as our players failed to play for that beady eyed ASS!!!…I’m not in the least interested in a repeat performance like that…It was only after learning his craft under Walsh that that “Rat” improved and than ONLY when he had Elway and NOT without him….

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Just because it happened that one time doesn't mean it would turn out the same way again

Besides, Allen has been DC for more teams than just the Broncos. He was pretty successful in Atlanta and did decently with the Saints. Again, not my first choice, but I’m not against him either.

I’m still hoping we interview some of the defensive coaches from Baltimore and SF.

by Chris2814 on Jan 23, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya But!!...I'm Not Excited About Being "Donkey" West...LoL!!...And By The #'s They Weren't Very Good???

Addition by subtraction though if we take away what was working for them??

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Reggie Speaks!!!
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie said upon arrival in Mobile, Ala., for the Senior Bowl he could have a head coach in place by the end of the week.

``It could happen by Saturday,’’ McKenzie told CSN-Bay Area.

Regarding an NFL Network report that an interview with Packers assistant Winston Moss did not go well, McKenzie said, ``That’s far from the truth.’’

Eight scouts made the trip to Mobile to evaluate talent, McKenzie said. He said he is still evaluating the current staff and ``I’m not in a hurry to hire and fire, at all.’’

Current coaches, those under contract and those whose contracts have expired, will be retained or dismissed at the discretion of the new head coach,
McKenzie said.

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

PROBABLY means moss is coming to oak

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That Won't Depress Me At All If Al Saunders Stays On As "OC" As I Have Been Pimping!!!

Than Moss can name his “DC” and “D” Assistants….Replace some “O” assistants if desired and make a decision regarding the “STC” who I’m also pimping to stay….

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

says here saunders could possibly become the chiefs OC or raiders HC.

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2012/1/22/2724961/al-saunders-possibly-linked-to-raiders-head-coaching-job-or-chiefs

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

man

kyle william’s family is receiving death threats. when do idiots realize that life is more important than football? ur a fan not a fuckin player! u lost get over it. the niners are a team that will be good for many years under harbaugh. some fans are just pathetic…

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

Well Some Punks Shot Raider Fans In Their Parking Lot At A Freakin Preseason Game!!!

That pretty much calibrates the type of idiot who’s attracted to “SadFranchise” now days!!!

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

guess getting to the nfc championship under a rookie HC and bad qb isnt enough for them

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I Hope The Bastard Lost All His $$$$ To The Mob And Now Squiwming For His Life!!!

LoL!!!…That’s prolley why they want to kill the player???

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

i know many of yall dont like bleacher report but

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1035230-can-the-oakland-raiders-receiving-corps-become-elite/page/8 trading boss and promoting ausberry? unless the coaches think aus can start and contribute i dont see this happening. ausberry is an athletic TE though. not bigger than gronk or graham but just as athletic. more like a finley i think

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

yeah but trading boss gives the raiders more draft picks.

keeping him here will be awesome as well.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

the writer also forgot to mention boss' blocking ability

but he does mention that gordon is a blocking TE.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Boss Was NOT A High Rd Draft Pick!!!...He Was NOT A High Producer In Hue's "O"!!!

Just how the hell does this equate to picks that are worth a shit???…Better to keep a sure thing than to gamble on the tables!!!

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

“Keep an ear out for a guy named Damarlo Belcher out of Indiana. He’s had some off-the-field issues that got him kicked out of their football program, but no one has the exact details of that situation.

At 6-foot-five with 4.4 speed, Belcher is worth the risk in undrafted free agency." the writer also mentioned this dude. 6’5 4.4 40?!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting....That Could Be Great In The Same Backfield As Pryor @ 6'6" 4.28 Speed...
Selected to Biletnikoff Award Watch List and named to Big Ten Players to Watch List. Enters 2011 third on Indiana’s career list with 164 catches and sixth with 1,939 yards.

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

i hope reggie spots him

if he goes undrafted, pickin him up would be good BUT the raiders have Eddie Mcgee on PS. hes 6’4’’210.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

does he have excellent hands though?

if he does then i dont see why reggie wont at least look at him. i need to call reggie up and tell him to keep an eye on this guy then!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

imma call reggie up and give him this guys info!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Player Bio:
189/2225yds 12 TD’s

Damarlo Belcher

#88 WR
Senior
Indiana Hoosiers

Birth DateMay 28, 1990 (Age: 21)
Height6-5
Weight213 lbs.

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

from the limited amount of highlights ive seen

this dude has good hands and makes plays!! a poor mans Calvin johnson (or a poor mans ashlon jeffrey except faster and slimmer). dont know if hes as fast or big (same height) but he can get bigger and improve once he is signed. giants sign good WRs hopefully they dont get him

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Omg we need this guy

Big, fast, good hands, loved his acrobatic catches and man what i most liked about this guy, he runs so smoothly ala Jerry Rice, not saying hes the next JR but wow he’s so smooth running routes and running after the catch

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont know what to believe!!

http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/damarlo-belcher-88/ , http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=86815&draftyear=2012&genpos=WR

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

both are saying hes around 6'3'' and runs a 4.6 40.

not even close to how i envisioned him or thought at the beginning. different from the bleacher report article. dont know whos right the “Mediots”(as yall call em) or bleacher report(which many of yall dont trust/hate).

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

kinda disappointing if pfw and nflscout are right.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

but here they have him at 6'5''

http://www.indy.com/posts/hoosiers-receiver-damarlo-belcher-out-for-records

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Regardless, he looks good on "tape"

He’s definitely big and strong, and fast too he blows past coverage almost effortlessly….and smooth! haha i keep repeating this but that’s a great quality, he looks natural running around and catching the football, Denarious Moore has that too, but this guy is definitely bigger

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

the descriptions say he is immature and wont block.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

“Immature, long-limbed, lanky, possession receiver with a wide catching radius. Has yet to figure out what it means to work nor shown he is willing to do the dirty work as a blocker and on special teams to make it as a pro.” harsh but pfw is wrong A LOT and very critical about many players.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If all that's true, too bad, i'd definitely want him on our roster

But not if he’s lazy and selfish, i really hope not, he looks talented

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying this is the case, but sadly this happens a lot

Players with incredible God-given talent who just don’t want to work to get better, they’re lazy and complacent, everything comes easy to them so they lose motivation or something people like Randy Moss and Jamarcus Russell…at least Randy will get to the HOF but he could’ve been the best WR of all time if he worked more….Jamarcus? well he could’ve been one of the all time greats, definitely had the talent….Al saw that and thats why he drafted him, fat boy just didnt want to put the time into it, and we all had to suffer cause of that….

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

true dat mayne

laziness and injuries hamper the athletes ability to reach his/her potential. Jruss is the poster boy for laziness and stupidity. Raiders were set back for a couple years and fans suffered. i bought 2 FUCIKIN JRUSS JERSEYS!!!!! I feel embarrassed for that haha! sad thing is, i still have em in my closet. anyone wanna buy them? they are in good condition. i havent stomped on them nor have i burned them haha. start the bidding at $100!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha I ordered mine the moment he was drafted

Still have it too, so anyone interested in 3 J-russ jerseys contact us both lol

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

ill throw in my nnam jersey

my bro is an eagles fan and he wore it for a while when nnam signed with them. i was devistated while he laughed and was joyful

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't buy new players jerseys anymore

Bought a Freddie Biletnikoff #25 jersey and havent looked back

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

its not safe when ur a raiders player

unless ur seabass or lechler. i was really close of buying a dmc jersey. Dont know why i didnt but i might buy one this weekend.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm gonna wait like 2 more years before i buy a DMC jersey

I’m scared of Reggie, i’m afraid he may pull a Herschel Walker on us….

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

DMC is too talented.

I think he needs to shop around and get him some top-notch trainers. If he stays healthy 16 games, even 14, the dude will lead the nfl in rushing. Of course the oline must do it’s job, but Run DMC is too good. Top 3 back when healthy, well i say he’s number one. YUP even better than AP, he’s number 2 in my book.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 23, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

i just bought a bo jackson

my randy moss jersey got tossed when i moved. oddly i wasnt the one who tossed it

by dawad34 on Jan 23, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This Is Why We Have The Combine...If He's Invited All That Facts Will Be Known...

Than also if a scout is interested he can have a personal work-out or the pro-day at his school…

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree with the post Kaz

We can’t accept less than a #1 for DMC or a 2nd+3rd pick. and don’t let these huggers fool you, we definitely would get a 1st for Darren. It’s a luxury we can afford at RB with our stable of backs. Taiwan Jones is going to be a great back and Bush should be locked up as soon as possible. Take the pick and the rest of the draft to address the defense.
Don’t trade Murphy, he will be valuable to us next year.

"These type of games are why you do what you do in February, March, April, May when nobody is watching," "It's why you stay up late at night watching film. This is why you do that, to be prepared....Carson Palmer

by RUKidding on Jan 23, 2012 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

Reggie's taking his time choosing our next HC....so he doenst want to screw this up

Whoever he chooses lets hope he gives him time (minimun 5 years), look at the HCs of the 2 super bowl contenders: Tom Coughlin and Bill Belichick, Tom’s been there since 2004 (8 years) and Bill since 2000 (12 years)….we desperately need coaching continuity around here to be succesful, cant keep wasting the talent we have on our team

by Raider Roy on Jan 23, 2012 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

Let Bush walk!

Yep, I said it….let him walk! We’ve seen this a million times from RB’s. They play their hearts out in their free agency year so they get a huge payday. They hold their own team hostage while they go out looking for a monster deal from some desperate, unsuspecting team. The next year they play like a scared little mouse and end up being waived within a year or 2. It happens every year i.e. DeAngelo Williams this past year comes to mind. Look at all the money he got and the lousy year he had. This is what Bush will do too. We’ll get burned. Run with DMC, Taiwan Jones and give Marcel Reese more time. If the idiot Hue would have just plugged in TJ where DMC woulda run, then we would have hardly lost a step. He’s insanely fast and plays with passion. Bush slams himself into the line, hoping for a hole to form somewhere.

Yep, let him walk and let someone else eat $30 million on a long-term deal.

by Silver_n_black on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 AM PST reply actions  

Ya Never Just Let A Young Proven Player Of Bush's Magnitude Walk For Free....Very Bad Business!!!

You can sign him or Franchise him…Than you can use him or trade him…..Or if someone wants to take him away you get the 1st rd picks…..That’s just the business end of it and something Reggie understands fully well…

That attempt to pimp your madness has failed!!!

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 1:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad a lot of you guys are not running the Raiders...

Colts traded a RB a few years back for a 2nd rounder and another middle round pick. I can’t recall who they got in that trade, but I’m sure people remembered how St. Louis got RB Marshall Faulk in his prime and he helped the Rams to 2 Super Bowls?
Most of us realize that when McFadden is healthy, he’s is definitely one of the best 3 RBs in the game. Speed, size, skills, that teams would die for.
Raider Nation also knows that McFadden isn’t likely going to be able to handle a huge load at RB for an entire season. So instead of getting rid of him, why don’t we work on getting better back ups for him?
Bush did well early, but he really wore down, especially towards the later part of the year. It was even worst, because our supposively dynamic rookie RB draft pick, Taiwan Jones was also hurt and did not help Bush handle the load. Jones could have been that electric RB tandem that would have help offset McFadden’s loss during his injury. Instead, both #1 and #3 was shelved for most of the year. The season was history.
So why trade away a sure thing in McFadden? Why not work on making sure #2 and #3 are the best they can be to be ready if McFadden happens to get hurt again? I know people in the forum wants McFadden to run 30+ times a game and get his 200 yards, but he’s more valuable at 15-20 touches and saving him for the long haul.

by anhdazman on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Why is no one talking about Laron Landry and Cortland Finnegan?

Two good additions to our secondary if we can land them. They’re gonna be a bit expensive, but they would be a great fit in Oakland.

by DubAndRaiderNation on Jan 24, 2012 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

Cortland Finnegan would make a GREAT Raider.

He attatuide is the perfect match for Oakland (IMO)

by DivineGrace on Jan 24, 2012 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Too many posts I agree with here to name.I can’t even believe he had the gall to post it. Gutting. Fire Sale. All apt descriptions of this article.Fortunately its science fiction. If the Raaiders actually followed this plan, it would set the team back 10 years. Oakland’s defense finished like 29th this season. Yet, 3/4 of this article is about dismantling the offense, which was more than decent considering the injuries to key players. Particularly the teams biggest strength, the running game! Getting rid of McFadden would be a mistake of epic proportions. And at the same time try to low ball Bush or let him walk ? My gos are you a Broncos fan or something? Because that right there kills the team. I don’t like any of the moves you suggest or any of the RBs you want in FA. And you don’t really address the 900 lb gorilla in the room, the 29th ranked defense. Which iis you caught that McKenzie hired DC Dennis Allen as head coach, pretty much taked the 3-4 off the table.

by RaiderJoe on Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

Think again

ILB’s: Aaron Curry and Rolando McClain

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Oaktownsoul on Jan 27, 2012 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

I like the idea of Franklin, hes a proven run stopper and can be had for a decent value. I like the idea of Hillis if his contract is cheaper than anything Bush gets.

Trading mcfadden is silly, his value isnt very high because hes always injured. No way we get more than a 2nd round pick for him right now and even that im not sure about.

by TontheDon on Jan 28, 2012 10:20 PM PST reply actions  

How wrong can you get!!!

This post is astoundingly horrible. I don’t think a single one of these ideas would help the Raiders get better next year. Remember we were a game away from the playoffs with the team we had this year. What the writer proposes here would destroy the team. We aren’t trying to rebuild the team just tinker with a few parts to improve it. Way off man.

by Khari on Feb 1, 2012 6:45 PM PST reply actions  

trade dmac

let’s see- trade dmc -when he has his lowest trade value as opposed to fix his injury issues like look at practice fields and hire new trainers(the best) ?

by flymike on Mar 11, 2012 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  


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