Oakland Raiders Coaching Search: Dennis Allen Emerges as First Front Runner
by Rich Langford on Jan 23, 2012 10:00 PM PST
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PrintThe Raider coaching search keeps on winding, but now it appears to be narrowing the wind. They are reportedly going to bring Denver Broncos defensive coordinator in for a second interview.
This process is really dragging out—not that that is a bad thing—it is just a little surprising. Once the Packers lost, it seemed likely that the coaching search would soon be over. Wrong!
Quick side story: Due to an amazingly brutal storm that produced a panic inducing two inches of snow I lost power for five days. I was cast into the dark ages with only the rudimentary text messaging system to connect me to the outside world.
In between hunting and foraging for nuts, berries and little overweight children I would check my messages and kept expecting to see news of a new coaching hire, and when none appeared, I assumed I must have just fallen out of the loop somehow.
Then when the gods bestowed power upon me once again I was shocked to see that they hadn't hired a coach, but a front runner had appeared, and that is the above mentioned Mr. Allen. End of side story
On the surface, Allen seems like a great candidate. He was in his first year with the Broncos, and his first as a DC in the NFL, and that defense outperformed their miserable expectations. That defense has some talent, but it is also woefully incomplete.
Denver finished 22nd in rushing yards allowed, which is fairly unimpressive until you consider that was a defense that had nothing but question marks at defensive tackle, and pass rushers on the edge.
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Allen is known for his aggressive "bend but don’t break" defensive play calling that gives up a lot of yards
but also forces many sacks and turnovers. In 2009 in New Orleans, the Saints ranked 3rd in interceptions despite giving up 321 yards per game.1 Allen’s Broncos finished the year 20th in yards allowed, T-9 in sacks, and T-29 in takeaways
"If U Dont Like That U Dont Like Kings Basketball" - Peaches
Meh.... if we get him I want a very DC.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Rich...Where Do You Live???....I Have Gone Threw Storm Event's Like That In Colorado/Whyoming...
The “Ice Storm” of ’78"-“79” was a dooooosey!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I'm in the Seattle area.
It was definitely the ice that destroyed this area. Trees were snapping left and right.
I'm mad as hell!
by Rich Langford on Jan 24, 2012 2:16 AM PST up reply actions
Now I Get's It...I'm A Tacoma Boy...
“Trees were snapping left and right.”…Right above the ground a few inches right?…And limbs that couldn’t hold the weight?
While in Colorado miles and miles of power polls went down when the power lines got as big around as basket balls and the wood snapped at the base…That’s where it change took place between being hard frozen and protected from freezing by the ground….Creates a weak spot and they just snap!!!…Once one goes the rest follow until they reach a crossroad where the polls have more support…But if not supported right away it will eventually run in 3 other direction at the same time…
Loss of power for 3 freakin weeks in that bitter sub -20 cold!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Oh!!...I Went And Looked...Yours Was The "Freezing Rain" NOT The "Ice Storm" Of Fog!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Hey panty how is Tacoma I'm trying to get stationed there with the 75th rangers
My buddy tells me it’s real nice
by 209raider on Jan 24, 2012 12:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
LoL!!...Matter Of Opinion Bro...If You Like Rain -n- Rain -n- Rain -n- Prick Cops Than Ya!!
I haven’t lived there for years now but every time I go back it’s the same old shit!!!
Seattle is a much more pleasant place to be but again the “PNW” has some definite police state problems that I just don’t get down with…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
and more rain...
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
by samiam2112 on Jan 24, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In McKenzie, I trust
to make the most prudent decisions, on behalf of the Nation.
I understand your staetment,
but what has Mckenzie done thusfar to earn your trust? Booting Hue??
I think all Raider Nation should guard their opinions of Reggie like Mark Davis because he could easily gut this organization and not produce 8-8 next year from the previous two seasons!!!
Every man for himself...
by MMunoz33 on Jan 24, 2012 7:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
His nearly 2 decades of work as a main contributor in the scouting departments in Green Bay makes it so he deserves it
He is one of the absolute main reasons that the Packers personal had never really slipped since Favre started his first game in Green Bay.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
That's the entire FO of the Packers organization though... Personnel is a big part of it no doubt! I just hope he knows how to ranslate that to a new close knit family/orgaization
IMHO;
I think it’s fair for Raider fans to say that; “Reggie must produce positive results for the Oakland Raiders” in order for us to fully trust him without hesitation.
Every man for himself...
by MMunoz33 on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
From a GM stand point he has fired a coach. That is it. He hasn’t earned the trust of the Nation, or at least he shouldn’t have. He may be a former Raider, but has since spread his wings else where. For now, until he gets a solid season under his belt he is an outsider to me. His success prior to here is substantial, his past looks solid, but until he does something of value to this team he is just another suit. I look forward to what he could do, but for now he hasn’t done anything. For all we know, like Matt Millen, he could turn out to be terrible. I don’t see it and that is a worse case scenerio, but he could be a poor GM. The unknown is a scary place, lets hope for the best.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 24, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
My response above also can be applied here, but again I dont blame you for remaining skeptical
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I’m very skeptical. I thought we were really close to making a run at the title. Now, I sort of feel that the organization wants to start over. That is cool if it works, but it takes years. 10 years and no playoffs is a long time. Our only relevancy has been bad things (Moss giving up, over paying Walker, the Carson trade, Jabustus, firing every coach, Tom Cable, Art Shell, etc.). Like you, I’m sure, I’m tired of this nonsense. We’ve been a joke for a long time. If McKenzie is the man to change that then I’m down, but another 10 years of futility will not endear me to football in my later life.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
That i think is a misconception
McKenzie believes in making moves that have immediate impact. The Packers do not like to go into full out rebuild mode and he knows we have a good nucleus here. Even when the Packers were missing the playoffs they were always very competitive. He believes in fixing holes while remaining capable of winning more than simply blowing up the team and mailing in a couple of seasons. I do not expect a full out rebuilding mode, he knows we have been losing too long to stand for that. We all want to win now and he is going to do his best to make that happen.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Good players
He had the luxury of a fairly stable hall of fame QB in Farve. A losing season was rare for them, but they did have some. When Rodgers was transitioning they suffered a 6-10 season I think? Farve went through a few 8-8 seasons I think too right? When they installed those receivers and Charles Woodson and Clay Matthews they rose up. Rodgers needed time to get connected with his receivers. Can Carson do that over here (and he’s older than Rodgers)? I hope so, but we haven’t been stable at QB for years. And defensively we aren’t nearly as talented as the offense. Throw in another rookie head coach and we will go through the same growing pains of years past. Change is good, too much change is detrimental. I do agree on one thing, I’m sure he’s doing his best to get us the playoffs.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
As Our "GM"...Reggie Is 0-n-2 -w- 2 Fumbles Late In The 4th Quarter
Yet to score but has lost both Hue n Mike while had one forced fumble of McCoy and another fumble of Tice…
But now we be in the RedZone and looking to take the lead!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
It is not luck, its great scouting and we got one of their major contributors now
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
23 teams passed over Aaron Rodgers
in 2005. The Packer are smart, and everybody else is stupid? I’m sure that kind of line goes over well at acmepackingcompany.com
im not sure what the hell your talking about here, you cant deny they have great scouting. Its a fact
23 teams passed on Aaron Rodgers and regret it now including us, but most teams were known to not be interested in a first round quarterback last year. 32 teams passed on Tom Brady multiple times, whats your point?! The Packers were smart for picking Rodgers, its not their fault other teams passed over them and had faulty scouting on his athletic ability. Once they had a chance to draft him they jumped on it, that is good scouting. It doesnt matter that other teams didnt.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 25, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
last wast suppose to be THAT lol
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 25, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
The year they went 6-10 they had 5 games decided by 3 points or less which is what i mean by still were competetive
They had good players is exactly my point, they had good players because of amazing scouting which was McKenzie’s key job. We have good players here too man, its not like he is just going to come in and destroy everything. We have a solid offensive line, a solid quarterback, a great running back, and a very good receiving core. Our team is not that far away from what the Packers had when they switched to Rodgers. They also had major holes on their defense that were fixed with the right coaches. 8-8 is not rebuilding, 6-10 i also do not consider to be rebuilding. There is absolutely no reason to think that all of a sudden we are going to be taking huge steps backwards. We are on the verge of being great as long as we get the right people to coach and thats why Reggie is taking so long. He knows we can win with what we have, and you should know we can do that too. No way that he is going to come in and just blow everything up when we were 2 90+ yard drives away from being a playoff team. There is no reason for doom and gloom, the ship is blowing up. The ship is just getting a paint job. You have had faith through a lot more than this, I do not understand why everybody is so worried about what is going to happen when we have already made it through the darkest days.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well said sir
When reached for comment, reggie paused for 18 seconds, offered a slowly emerging smile, and then said “what MAK said”
by lchristmas on Jan 24, 2012 1:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
LOL Thanks bud
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not saying he needs absolute faith or anything but he has earned enough to trust his decision making
Trust me though, as a Green Bay Resident Reggie McKenzie has been one of the number 1 reasons for their continued success with players and personal. If McKenzie said to draft a guy here he developed well. He worked almost every position in the front office at one time or another and succeeded in them. He was an absolute huge contributor for the Packers, people around here still talk about how big of a hit it was for us to get him away from them. You are absolutely right though, despite his success elsewhere he needs to earn it here too. No blind faith is deserved yet, but more trust than your average first year GM is definitely deserved. Just my opinion too though, i dont blame you for feeling differently.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
I'll give him credit for Green Bay!! even double kuddos..
I just want to see us going forward beyond 8-8, and I hope that doesn’t mean regressing to 7-9, or 6-10
We know with Hue we have an 8-8 football and that was without Nnamdi, McFadden(most of year), Zach Miller, and Bresnahan at DC.
If we go backwards i.e. next year (6-10, 7-9 ) on McKenzie’s watch with his motto; “everyone will have a place within the organization” then I think he’s failed (intially) as GM of The Oakland Raiders
Every man for himself...
I believe that we will be better and am not worried about regressing when we are in the best position we have been in years.
We now have the opportunity to hire coaches and players that never would have considered us before. We have quite a few holes on defense but we have plenty of options in FA to fill them and our offense is already close to being set. We dont have draft picks but we do have other options. He needs to do it yes but there is no reason to feel the sky is falling already.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
I Will Say This As A Positive....That Dude's "D" Did It With One Of The Worse "O" Of All Time Backing Him Up!!!
Now that’s a reality!!!…Having that damn dumb “Armless ASS” as your “O” and waiting until the final ticks of the 4th for that silly bastard to wake the fuck up while your holding down the fort was remarkable and “ALL” the credit for their season should be going to “Dennis the Menace”!!!…Because that’s what he was and how many “O” did he stop cold???….Including ours in the 2nd half….
"Tebowphobe"!!!
That terrible O, if memory serves,
shmucked you guys at home, soundly. I honestly can’t believe that either of the Bronco coordinators are getting serious consideration for HC anywhere. You can have McCoy, he is a useless douche, but Allen has a single year under his belt and hasn’t really proven anything.
Mind you, there aren’t any really good candidates left and the Raiders have a strong tradition of screwing over their HC’s so you have to take what you can get. Getting Gruden out of the booth is the only thing that will made you relevant again and as much as I loathe the silver and black, Chucky made your annual asswhipping fun to watch.
by coloradoSportsguy on Jan 24, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Check Yourself Before You Expose Your "MuleHeaded" Stupidity!!!
The annul “ASS Whooping” has been at our hands NOT yours fool!!!
Only “KC” can claim dominance over the Raiders and your NOT even in their same league!!!….
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
suffering from concussion-like symptoms
after that 59-14 game in 2010….now that was an asswhipping…at home
by onedeepboricua on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Oakland has won 3 of the last 4 games against Denver.
Let’s revisit this next year and see who ate each other’s lunch?
Every man for himself...
for the 15 years prior
we owned you guys, hard.
by coloradoSportsguy on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
How freakin old are you?...10??....Your ASS Is So Fucked Up You Can't Even Count!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I lived in Santa Clara during that time frame
Went to the games. Was present for said asswhoppings. Loved watching Gruden scowl and all the hoodlum shitbag fans cry their way all the way to the train station.
by coloradoSportsguy on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
and those Plummer era Broncos were really something to be proud of
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Raiders-vs-"Donkey" 1995 To Today: Raiders 13 -vs- "Donkey" 23 -w- 2 "OT" Losses...
1995….0-n-2
1996….0-n-2
1997….1-n-1
1998….0-n-2
1999….0-n-2 “OT”
2000….0-n-2 Raiders "PO"s
2001….1-n-1 Raiders "PO"s
2002….2-n-0 Raiders "PO"s
2003….0-n-2
2004….1-n-1
2005….0-n-2
2006….0-n-2
2007….1-n-1 “OT” Loss
2008….1-n-1
2009….1-n-1
2010….2-n-0
2011….1-n-1
2012….2-n-0 Raiders "PO"s!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
How can you say 15 years prior when last year (2010) you didn't get one game against us?
Are you saying 15 years prior to 2010?
Every man for himself...
Don't let the Homo-mania sorry Tebow-mania get to your head Donkey
get used to those 59-14 home delivery ass whoopings dude, you’ll see plenty of those in the coming seasons
"Homo Sapiens" Latin For "Wise Man" Was Once A Desirable Connotation!!!!
But that Santa Clara ASS was too damn stupid to meet those requirements so thus became a Equus Africanus Asinus instead….Not being worthy even to merit the title Equus Ferus Caballus….
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Edged us out on a tiebreaker
While getting every lucky break, and us choking games away… And all the sudden the broncos are the 85 bears and we’re an irrelevant joke… I love these cockwads
by lchristmas on Jan 24, 2012 10:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
You guys are the ones having the love fest
for our coordinators.
The problem for the Raider “fans” is that if you get a good HC, and suddenly become relevant again, the team will move to LA and give the east-bay punks the finger.
by coloradoSportsguy on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Obviously A Fucken Niner!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
I guess we are relevant enough for you to be over here doing some lame trolling
drown yourself
by lchristmas on Jan 24, 2012 10:43 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
To All Silverandblackpride Nation;
Please don’t feed the bear/ troll/donkey cock-sucker above!
Every man for himself...
Sounds good;
his resume fits-the-bill! I like it so far.
Shannahan reversed?
It kinda sounds like when Al hired Mike S, then fired him after one year. McKenzie hires Allen and the Raiders could own the broncos for the next 7-8 years. Sounda good to me.
Have No Doubts He's A vewry Good "DC"....But Questions Loom As To Being A Quality "HC"???
If this happens and Moss comes in as the new “DC” I could get a little more excited about it…
I could be happy with it if Al Saunders and his “O” remain intact….
I could just be forced to accept it without and of these mandates from me too in which case I will try to be happy….(Stiff with clinched fists and gnashing of the teeth!!!)
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
not a bad idea at all since they definitely worked well together but Id prefer he retain Saunders
I dont think McCoy would come here after screwing his chances at the HC position too but I wouldnt be upset with that happening.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Updates:
Raiders | Mike Tice won’t interview
Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:20:44 -0800
Chicago Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice will not be interviewing for the Oakland Raiders’ head coaching position this week.
Raiders | Have spoken with Dom Capers about HC job
Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:15:44 -0800
The Oakland Raiders have spoken with Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers about their head coaching position but it is not known if there has been a formal interview.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Reggie is moving to the second phase...
Looks like it’ll be Morninwheg, Allen, Moss, Bowles, or Capers?
Every man for himself...
awesome i really didnt want Tice
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
"a brief Q&A with McKenzie at the Mobile airport at the dawn of Senior Bowl week…"
Paul Gutierrez: How would you describe the past two weeks and everything you’ve been doing since you’ve become G.M.?
Reggie McKenzie: Lot of work, lot of fun, you know? New job. It’s a dream job, so lots of things to do to get started.
PG: Have you spent much time in Alameda, or have you been on the road non-stop?
RM: Everything (laughs). I work in the in the office and been away a lot.
PG: Thoughts on these playoffs so far, had to tug at your heart at least a little to see the Packers lose right away?
RM: Yeah, yeah, that was disappointing but that’s usually what happens — the hot team usually keeps rolling. That’s what happened with the Giants. They’re rolling. Same with New England, really.
PG: What are your plans as the Raiders General Manager here at the Senior Bowl this week, what do you hope to get accomplished, what are some of the things on your checklist while you’re here?
RM: Well, you know, the normal. Meet and greet with the players, see what they look like, kind of get an idea who’s what. Coach meetings. It’s kind of different, being the G.M. (smiles broadly). And trying to finalize a coach, you know?
PG: And that’s the next question, obviously: where is that process right now? A lot of names out there and I know you said you wanted your “guy” and that you had a short list but didn’t want to say who was on it until you had to…
RM: And I’m going to keep it like that (laughs). You’ll know soon enough. Soon enough.
[RELATED: Philbin hire puts pressure on Raiders]
PG: Is this something that could happen this week?
RM: Yeah. Yeah. It could happen. It could happen by Saturday.
PG: A lot of names out there so far — Bowles, Moss, Allen, Mornhingweg. But let me throw another name out at you…Jon Gruden?
RM: (Smiles and pauses for seven seconds) I’m going to just laugh. You can put ‘giggle.’ (Laughs again).
[RELATED: Moss interview would not have broken NFL rules]
PG: Have you made any hires yet, staff, coaches, scouts?
RM: No. Our purpose first is to evaluate what we have, and I’m not in a hurry to hire and fire, at all.
PG: What about the assistant coaches that are currently under contract?
RM: That’s going to be up to the new coach.
PG: So then the guys that are still under contract technically are still working until the new coach comes in?
RM: Yeah.
PG: So then they’re kind of in, I don’t know if limbo is the right word?
RM: Yeah, well, you know, but they’re in kind of an interview mode, I would say.
PG: And the coaches no longer under contract?
RM: They’re free to interview. The (new) coach could interview those guys, too. We’re keeping all the doors open for the new coach.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
A Man Of His Word!!!
The Raiders removed the coaches page from their official website. That lends further credence to McKenzie’s stance that whoever he hires as the replacement for the fired Hue Jackson will be allowed to hire his own staff.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 23, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
That's good cause I visit the site everyday and stew over Bresnahan's picture!!
I’ll be sad to see Willie Borwn, and Bob Wylie (offensive line) depart…
Every man for himself...
I'm Really Hoping That A "D" Minded "HC" Will Want To Keep What Was Working Intact...
Thus Bob Wylie and Saunders may stay…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Niners' Harbaugh: No-fumble call 'analogous with the tuck rule'.....
LoL!!!….The Crying has already started across the bay Ha! Ha!!!…
“In my opinion, that was a fumble,” 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said during his news conference Monday. “I’m sure the league will defend it and the officials will defend it. But to me, that play was still going on. There was still struggling by Bradshaw. … I felt like it was analogous with the tuck rule.”
“Rule 7, Section 2 (b) of the NFL Rule Book (page 35) covers “dead balls.” The rule states: “An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended: (b) when a runner is held or otherwise restrained so that his forward progress ends.” That was the immediate ruling yesterday, which is not subject to a replay review."
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I completely agree with Harbaugh, that was WAY too quick of a whistle and was similar raping that we took
Ours was worse because it was such a little known, little used rule at the time but still it was bullshit.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
No way jose
The forward progress rule is called every game, and harbaughs sideline demeanor is that of a whining, complaining little bitch. My niner hater card is fully reactivated.
by lchristmas on Jan 24, 2012 1:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I still like Harbaugh
But that forward progress call was a fair call. Not sure why he’s complaining. Sure, losing sucks, but be happy you took a woeful team and turned them into winners.
yeah the NFL verified it was the correct call so i guess your right there
However i think its stupid if they call you down because your being flung backwards when your being tackled and your feet are not even on the ground when another player knocks that ball away. Seems like a fumble to me, its not like they were pulling him back 10 yards so i felt like the play should have been considered active, but thats not the rule.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
That rule makes sense
They never call it if its just one guy flinging the ball carrier backwards… Only the gang tackle where its obvious that the guy is going no where….
The difference is that the #uck rule is ridiculous in the first place. A rule should be worded so that the qb is subject to fumble once he has made it clear that his intention is no longer to throw the ball. Past your release point? You weren’t throwing. Fumble. “tucking” should have nothing to do with it.
I cant believe they still haven’t changed that rule after all these years. I think they would, but they’d see that as an admission that the raiders got skrewed. And that ain’t on their agenda.
Fuck the Niners and their bitchy coach and fanbase
by lchristmas on Jan 24, 2012 2:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree the Tuck rule is absolute bullshit, even Patriots fans I know agree thats a fumble and the rule should be changed
If the ball comes out past the throwing motion it should be a fumble. The thing i dont understand is if its considered an incomplete pass then why the hell is it not intentional grounding?? The guy is in the arms being tackled, at the very least it should be a situation where the offense loses the yards that they would have lost if it was a sack. They shouldnt be rewarded for the damn guy not being able to hold on to the ball by giving them the yards back they would have lost.
I agree on the forward progress rule making sense for gang tackles where they are pushing the guy back by a few yards, but if one person is making the tackle and just starts to push the guy back when another defender hits the ball out then it should be a fumble in my opinion. Bradshaw was not pushed back very far or for very long at all before that play was called dead, but as for both cases the rule is the rule.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
I knew it would be
My niner hater card is fully reactivated.
and those Assholes didn’t even make the Super Bowl.
Hopefully the “Whiny niner fan” will retreat to his brie and white zinfandel for another off season!
"Now I know what your thinking, did he fire six shots or only five. Ive forgotten myself in all this excitement, but being that this is the 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and could blow your head clean off, you have to ask your question. Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk!"
Dirty Harry Callahan
Harbaugh choked in his last posession playcalling before time expired 3 passes with less thaen 2 mins on the clock!
I swore he was channeling his Hue during that moment it never should have mattered at all!
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
lol thats a good point
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
It's part of football 101
These are the same errors Hue made repeatedly “we’re gonna get that fixed”. Hue cost the 3 games last season. I like Hue as what I know he just made some simple errors over and over…
Harbaugh and his OC have been together for a while it just made no sense whatsoever.
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
Even given the rule
I still say that Brady completed the tuck with the ball still in his hand. In slow-mo, his hand even came up a tick before the ball came out.
Woodson Hit His Arm Therefor NO "Tuck Rule" Even Applied...It Was A "Forced Fumble" Period!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
+99999999999999999999999999999999999999999
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
"FA" Watch....Help Is Availble Both On The "OL" -n- "D"....
Baltimore’s unrestricted free agents:
He’ll need to make a decision on Pro Bowl guard Ben Grubbs. Defensive starters Cory Redding (DE), Jarret Johnson (OLB) and Jameel McClain (ILB) are also free agents.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I really like Jarret Johnson...he's the unsung hero of that LB core.
He just goes unnoticed playing with all those stars on defense.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 24, 2012 4:50 AM PST up reply actions
They'll let Johnson go, because they're banking on Sergio Kindle coming back next season...
Every man for himself...
Now This Sounds Like A Chouce In Eminent ???..."Raiders have moved onto the "second phase" of their interview process"
“It is what it is; they had a process and a timeline,”
Tice had been scheduled to meet with new Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie on Tuesday at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala. But the Bears said that interview won’t take place because the Raiders have moved onto the “second phase” of their interview process.
“It is what it is; they had a process and a timeline,” Tice told ESPNChicago.com, which cited a league source in reporting the Raiders didn’t want to wait until Tuesday for the interview. “I was disappointed I wasn’t able to complete the interview process. But let me say this: I’m very excited about the opportunity and the new position I have with the Bears. We’ve got big fish to fry here. I’m looking forward to the challenge.”
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Word Is About To Come Down!!!!/_
I have to think it now comes down to 2 possible moves which could be a double for a 3rd???
#1….Moss as “HC”
#2….Dennis Allen as “HC”
#3….Winston Moss “DC” under Dennis Allen as “HC”???….Me likes that!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
If they hired Capers HC
Moss DC then someone else at OC; that seems more likely
Every man for himself...
Unsure about Allen
If he comes in, I’ll all but guarantee we don’t contend at all next year. However, if we are patient, he could be pretty decent. But patience doesn’t happen in a win now league. He is a decent choice, but he isn’t the next Madden, Gruden, or any other coach who created an immediate turnaround. At this point, I would almost rather have Capers. This coaching selection is insane. Is Bowles eliminated? Mixed reports on Moss. Ughhh, this offseason is more stressing than a damn regular season game!
by lakers007raiders on Jan 24, 2012 1:54 AM PST reply actions
Mixed Emotions On My Part???
September 22, 1972…So he’s 39…Born at the same time as my son who was 5 weeks premature…September 7 1972 which makes my boy a few weeks older…By conception anyway…LoL!!!
The year of the “Rat”….
In China, the Rat is respected and considered a courageous, enterprising person. It is deemed an honor to be born in the Year of the Rat and it is considered a privilege to be associated with a Rat. Rats know exactly where to find solutions and can take care of themselves and others without problems. They use their instinctive sense of observation to help others in times of need and are among the most fit of all the Animal signs to survive most any situation.
Rats are very lively and need a lot of mental and physical stimulation. They can be calm and perceptive, but sometimes their brains can cause a mental restlessness, tempting them to take on too much, only to discover they are unable to meet their commitments. Rats are blessed with one of the best intellects going. Add to their intelligence a curiosity and a bright imagination, and they seem as sharp as a needle.
The sign of the Rat is the first sign in the cycle giving Rat people exude great leadership qualities and are good at taking the lead. They don’t mind a lot of responsibility and they demonstrate a strong presence that other people respect. For those with the Rat nature, status and monetary satisfaction are the greatest motivation.
THE RAT ON THE JOB
The Chinese say others should always listen to the advice of the Rat. Because of their intellect and observatory powers, Rat people possess prudence and perception. They can anticipate problems, and are always able to see the big picture. They can hone in on issues at hand and make measurable judgments. These skills, combined with their sense of aspiration also make them clever operators. Status, money, title, and recognition are important to the Rat. They have keen senses of observation that allow them to foresee upcoming business opportunities as well as potential occupational problems. The Rat makes a better boss than an employee and, although motivated, they can be pinned down by routines. Rats work better in flexible situations where they can be freely creative.
RATS MAKE EXCELLENT:
Writers, Broadcasters, Actors, Advisors, Counselors, Lawyers, Politicians, Designers, Engineers, Managers, Directors, Administrators, Entrepreneurs, Musicians, Stand-up Comedians, Researchers, Historians, Race Car Drivers
CHARACTERISTICS
Smart, Magnetic, Well-liked, Affable, Quick-witted, Surreptitious, Selfish, Protective, Calculating
THE WATER RAT 1912 AND 1972
Being guided by the Water element means these Rats have a knack for influencing people. With their strong intellectual powers and great insight, they are also great puzzle solvers. They are quick to understand others and are incredibly practical people. Rats apply their talents to their everyday lives, making them obliging, generous and compassionate to other people. Generally, they are liked and respected by everyone. Like all Rats, however, they can be determined to seek their own gain, and will not mind using these talents to achieve it – though generally without losing anyone’s respect in doing so.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Others If You Want To Look Out Of Humor...Al Davis 1929 Was The Earth Snake...Remarkable Resemblance!!!
Winston Moss…December 24, 1965….Year of the Wood Snake!!!
Reggie McKenzie…February 8, 1963….Year Of The Water Rabat!!!
http://www.usbridalguide.com/special/chinesehoroscopes/Snake.htm
"Tebowphobe"!!!
So What Does That Damn "Donkey" Think Of This???....I Had To Take A Look....Yikes!!!
don’t make fun of my dad, you Broncos winning your championships and all that
“it’s like looking at porn
more times than you should even though the Raiders are ugly scumbags"
“BIG BIG BIG problem
IMO Dennis Allen would have been the Denver HC in 2013.
Denver should offer DC/Asst HC"
“Also because they would be weakening a division rival
who would know our systems inside out as well. It would be a coup for the Raiders and a bummer for us. We are 2-3 players away (Ty Warren might be one of them) from having a real good defense. This would set us back again for sure."
“Key Difference….
I think the major difference is that Fox is a defensive guy. So what ever DC we bring in… he will probably keep most of the things we do the same. So we won’t be learning a completely new system like we did when Bates, Nolan, and Wink left.
I doubt Fox brings in a guy that is going to tell him how to run an NFL defense. My guess… he goes with someone he has worked with before… or is familiar with from a competitive standpoint."
“if we do lose allen
it would definitely suck, but i also think fox isn’t getting enough credit for what’s been done. he’s been a defense guy longer than allen and i’d bet that allen learned a lot from fox this season. this is still fox’s defense, even down to his influence on personnel."
“I say the real problem here is
Loosing him to perhaps our biggest rivals!!
And yes another D coordinator. But I do agree Foxy is the stability on the D side of the ball."
“I’ll be praying that he stays
Man…why couldn’t McCoy have gone? He is much more replaceable than Allen."
“Look at it this way….
What kind of job security has Oakland offered their HC’s? Answer is absolutely NONE! The revolving door that has been the Faders HC spot is a joke. If I were Allen I would negotiate an ironclad contract with stipulations of FULL payment regardless of when or if he gets fired next season LMAO. We all know how good the Faders are at honoring their deals with HC’S. Heck with Oakland’s track record, Allen would be crazy to accept anything less than payment up front :)"
“just remember
Carson Palmer was brought in after Al took a dirt nap so the imbecile component remains high"
“Yeah but the imbecile who made that decision is gone now too
The fact is they have a stable, smart GM now, Alas. Which is one reason they’re looking at someone young and smart like Allen. Yes, with Bucky Larson (Al Davis Jr.) in charge there will still be some chaos, thankfully, but I don’t think we can count on them to be as stupid now.
But thankfully they also have only 3 draft picks this year, haha."
"Tebowphobe"!!!
With a second interview taking place with Allen
and with the Raiders removing the coaches page from their website and with them cancelling their interview with Tice…it seems likely that Reggie is on the verge of selecting the new HC for the Raiders.
They haven’t had the biggest of names to choose from but I trust McKenzie to pick the best HC for next season and beyond. I’m hoping at the very least that we can bring over Bowles as the new DC for this team and give him assistant HC duties as well. I was originally pro-Moss but the report about his interview with the Rams 2 years ago and his interview not going too well this year either makes me very leery about bringing him in in any capacity.
It will also be interesting to see who comes in as the new OC. I hope Saunders gets consideration for continuity on offense but I won’t be overly upset if we decide to go in a new direction.
At the end of the day I just want a leader.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
It Was Posted As Is From Your Own Fuckin Board You Fucken Idiot!!!
I seriously doubt
the Son of Al will be any different. But who knows :)
“…..Im the waiting beast….Im the twisted nerve…”
by Disturbed70 on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 AM ICT up reply actions
just remember
Carson Palmer was brought in after Al took a dirt nap so the imbecile component remains high
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 24, 2012 3:30 AM ICT up reply actions
Good point
after all those years the "imbecile component" has probably soaked so deeply into the carpet and wallpaper we may still see the effects years from now.
…….let’s hope
by sc31089 on Jan 24, 2012 3:39 AM ICT up reply actions
Yeah but the imbecile who made that decision is gone now too
The fact is they have a stable, smart GM now, Alas. Which is one reason they’re looking at someone young and smart like Allen. Yes, with Bucky Larson (Al Davis Jr.) in charge there will still be some chaos, thankfully, but I don’t think we can count on them to be as stupid now.
But thankfully they also have only 3 draft picks this year, haha.
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by underdog on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 AM ICT up reply actions
don’t make fun of my dad, you Broncos winning your championships and all that
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 AM ICT up reply actions 1 recs
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Hahaha!! Donkey Fans...
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin
by ClipperBEAST on Jan 24, 2012 7:15 AM PST up reply actions
We were just seeing which pathetic Denver fan(s) would notice our incorrect picture by monitoring our site daily, becasue they're ultimately they're afraid Tebow is a fraud.
Every man for himself...
LoL!!!...And I Thought I Would Find Something Intelligent Amongst Them Regarding Our Perspective "HC"??
NOT a chance!!!…Should have known that these “Donkey” ASSes who suffer from “Low Oxygen Syndrome” wouldn’t be able to muster up the slightest evidence of intellectual capacity….That fucken moron can’t even figure out what the freakin pic was about!!!
Now that’s DUMB!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I like this quote
"We’re going to be built off of speed and athleticism. We want to be a very fast, violent, aggressive type of defense. I firmly believe that defensive football is not nearly as much about X’s and O’s as it is about the way you play the game, the culture of your defense. I think if you look at where i’ve been in the past, speed and athleticism and aggressive football players is the type of thing we’re looking for."
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/01/23/the-dennis-allen-file/
OREGON DUCKS ROSE BOWL CHAMPIONS - Time to drink Dr Pepper and ship stuff with UPS!!!!!
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ONE NATION UNDER AL
Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
+1....We Have The "speed and athleticism" Already For Sure....But The "aggressive football players" Part May Be Lacking!!!
Not sure that can be taught but there’s a chance with a guy who believes in it that that element grows…At least we can hope…
It seems as if it grew on that “Donkey” “D”….They were far from “aggressive football players” last season!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
we have the agressive part
look how personal foul penalties we had. the part we didnt have were the smart players
Off topic; Sorry Mr. Allen!!
but how many of you wonder if Reggie has even reached out to John Gruden?
Reggie just smiled at Paul G. (CSN Bay Area) when asked about the potential hiring of Gruden?
Every man for himself...
I Took That As A Huge "NO"!!!...He Made Jest Of It....He Said:
(Smiles and pauses for seven seconds) I’m going to just laugh. You can put ‘giggle.’ (Laughs again).
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Yup
Many of us know that Gruden is not in the mix. It was a waste of time and 503 comments on the “We Want Chucky” post.
by Mallard Davis on Jan 24, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Hey rich Langford
I hate the donkeys as much as the next raider fan, but I watch enough football to know that your picture there is actually Donkey’s OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR Mike Mccoy not there defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen, smart guy
Is This What That "Donkey" ASS Was Bitching About???....
And I thought this was addressed to me!!!!
The picture above belong to the OC Mike McCoy you freakin idiot!
GB² = God bless and Go Broncos.
by bronco4ever-suck15 on Jan 24, 2012 9:20 PM ICT
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Many are reporting what we already knew...Allen is indeed the leading candidate
All other candidates have been told they are out of the race. I guess it just comes down to getting his signature at this point.
It’s an uninspiring hire but there weren’t a lot of big names or personalities out there to be hired. At the very least it hurts the Donks and they have to get a DC for like the 7th year in a row. The Donks defense played beyond their talent level but it wasn’t exactly like they were dominant for most of the season. Overall I feel we could have done better but I’ll feel alright with this choice if we get Bowles as the DC/Assistant HC.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
You know what this Allen guy doesnt look so bad
And he coached 5 years under Sean Payton who I admire a lot, this may be a good fit for us after all…and the first defensive-minded HC since Madden, I love me some defense baby!
What does Reggie want from his defensive mined coach?
Moss and Capers would run a 3-4 defense, while Allen would run a 4-3.
Maybe Reggie thinks it would be easier to stay with the 4-3 and not bring in the needed NT and LB’s to run a 3-4? Therefore Allen would get the Job to run the 4-3
I should hope scheme wasn't the deciding factor
I would imagine it is a factor in the decision but this is for the HC position…not the DC. The DC will play a role with that decision as well.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 24, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Apparently, the HC search is down to 3...from Paul Gutierrez
MOBILE, Ala. — The Raiders have narrowed their coaching search to three candidates, Winston Moss, Dennis Allen, and a third “mystery candidate,” according to a person with knowledge of the situation.
Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. are no longer in the running, according to the same source.
Prior to a Senior Bowl workout Monday, Raiders general manager McKenzie told CSNCalifornia.com that he was optimistic that the coaching search would conclude soon, and suggested it could happen by Saturday.
Allen is the current defensive coordinator with the Broncos, and Moss is the Packers’ assistant head coach/inside linebacker coach. Moss is a former Oakland Raider.
McKenzie has made public statements detailing his urge to get a new head coach in place as soon as possible.
“I would like sooner than better,” McKenzie said at his introductory media conference on Jan. 10, when asked what kind of timeline he was looking at in hiring a coach.
“But if I have to wait, I’ll wait. I’m going to work my tail off to hire the best coach, the best fit. And that’s all that’s going to matter right now. And that will start now. And however long it takes, that’s how long it will take. But we want to get the right guy.”
Read more: Source: Raiders’ coaching search at 3
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
Very curious about the "mystery candidate"
Could be Capers…
They also didn’t say that Bowles was told he’s out of the race…so it could be him.
I know many of you are going to say it’s Gruden but I just don’t see that as a possibility.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
maybe it's Chip Kelly
I’d be torn on that one as a Ducks fan.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Mystery Box????
Well, as I always say, even with a million dollars visible and ready for me to take…………………………………..I choose the box!!!!! Give me the box!!!!!!
by lakers007raiders on Jan 24, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
lmao $10,000 or the curtain. Deal or No Deal. GIVE ME THE CURTAIN!
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
its as if their entire existence revolves around the Nation
pathetic donkey lovers. A new era has begun, and McKenzie will relish this opportunity to rob their staff of its gold.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
by brhynno on Jan 24, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
Did you guys see who was at the Senior bowl game for the raiders…..
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Plenty of @raiders coaches here @seniorbowl – Ross, Bresnahan, Skipper, Hunley, Saunders..
Saunders I understand but Chuck E. Cheese? C'mon man!
I don’t get why they’d even consider footing the bill for that guy to travel there with the team.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
How scary
Bresnahan is still employed. If Hue gets fired and not Bresnahan I’m going to be pissed. Let him keep a consulting job with the Raiders…………….maybe he can consult the hot dog vendors.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Inside Box #3.........Drum Roll.......Bill Cowher!!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Could it be a shortage of scouts
That makes them depend on a failed DC for scouting at the Senior Bowl?
Allen isn't my first choice
Nor is he someone I’d be super excited about. But he seems solid, and I’d be able to get behind the hire. Especially with the right coaching staff.
I was still holding out hope that some of the Niner or Ravens defensive coaches would get to interview.
Yeah
In fact, up until 2 days ago I hadn’t even considered him a front runner. Whatever, he’s got my backing if he is the new coach. I hear Pagano of the Ravens D is being considered for the Colts HC job, so cross him off the list for corrdinators.
by lakers007raiders on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Schefter is reporting that Raiders are currently negotiating with Allen
who knows if this BSPN report is accurate or not.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
yeah same people said Chip Kelly was a done deal to Tampa. I will believe it when the Raiders announce it.
At least he is a defensive minded coach though.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Misconception
There seems to be a misconception that you can hire away a DC/OC from another team. You have no right to interview someone from another team under contract for a lateral position. You have no right to interview a person for a promotion who is under contract unless the team gives you permission.
Yeah people seem to forget that
Which is why I’d like to see us look at Bowles or Moss as DC as that would be a promotion for both.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
sometimes its in their contract that they can interview for promotions elsewhere though
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 24, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Moss and Capers have been informed that they are out of the running
Looks like it may be down to Allen and what’s behind door number 2.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
Maybe Allen and McKenzie
assuming Allen gets the HC gig, will bring in Moss as our DC. I know GB defense had plenty of issues, but it seems like Allen and Moss would have similar defensive philosophies. i.e. Play fast, hard, and aggressive. It’s the kind of defense that might give up yards, but also makes big, exciting plays.
And that would be an improvement over our current defense that just gives up tons of yards and points.
If "Denice The Menace" Could Motivate Their Lame ASS "D" To Over Perform Maybe He Can Motivate Our Team???
The key here for me is keeping our “O” functioning…The “D” is definitely the area we need to target for repairs but NOT at the expense of our “O”….
Than as far as the “STC” I would hope he stays also??
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Being a former Donkey he may recognize that our offense is pretty good and may
decide to leave it intact, retaining Al Saunders so there’s continuity over there….i hope he retains Rod Woodson too, 2 bad Wauffle left…..send Bresnahan back to the UFL!
Well Here's To Hoping That he Lives Up To The Nick Name In A Positive Manner...
“Denice The Menace”
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 24, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Bresnahan said he as no desire to leave Oakland,
rather opting to open and manage an In-N-Out franchise so he can get the 4×4 animal style whenever he pleases!!!!!!
Every man for himself...
NEW ARTICLE FROM BY JERRY MCDONALD
Looks like Dennis Allen could very well be our next HC
I apologize for the all caps but I needed to get your attention.
by SmashmouthFB on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Allen is gonna keep bres as dc! Haha. Allen HC, Bowles DC, saunders OC.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 24, 2012 1:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Bowles as a DC would be awesome. Id rather have him than allen.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 24, 2012 1:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Here's Another Thought...Part Of The "Dennis The Menace" Appeal Is His Work As "DC"...
So why not let him hire his own “DC” to assist in the Schemes and preparations and such while the “HC” calls his own “D”???…Let him wear the mic and have a hands on feel for the game the same way an “O” minded “HC” does with his “O”….Just a thought…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Yo!!...If This Be True It be A Done Deal???
Raiders | Negotiating with Dennis Allen
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:27:06 -0800
The Oakland Raiders are in the process of negotiating with Denver Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen Tuesday, Jan. 24, to make him their next head coach. Green Bay Packers linebackers coach Winston Moss and defensive coordinator Dom Capers were told that they were no longer in the running.
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl/oakland-raiders#ixzz1kPzOup4l
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Allen negotiating with Raiders to be next head coach
The last time the Raiders hired a head coach with a defensive background was 1969 when Al Davis selected young linebackers coach John Madden. It looks like new owner Mark Davis and general manager Reggie McKenzie are going that route as they are negotiating with Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen to become the team’s new head coach, a league source confirmed.
Allen, 39, was with Denver for one year, and ran a 4-3 base defense — which the Raiders also used last season. The Broncos went from 32nd in yards allowed in 2010 to 20th in 2011, and from 32nd in points allowed to 24th.
ESPN was the first to report that the team told Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg that he was no longer in the running. And then the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel said that Packers linebackers coach Winston Moss and defensive coordinator Dom Capers would also not be getting the job.
McKenzie has no ties with Allen. Moss was supposed to be the front-runner, as McKenzie said he wanted his own guy when he fired Hue Jackson his first day on the job on Jan. 10. But there were reports that Moss’ interview did not go well, and even though McKenzie denied that yesterday, those whispers have since gotten louder.
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Like what we were talking about
McKenzie has no ties with Allen. Moss was supposed to be the front-runner, as McKenzie said he wanted his own guy when he fired Hue Jackson his first day on the job on Jan. 10. But there were reports that Moss’ interview did not go well, and even though McKenzie denied that yesterday, those whispers have since gotten louder.
It was the press that started all that Moss frontrunner talk, and never explained why. Has to make you question their “sources” at some point.
"his own guy" = a guy he hires
He never ever said it had to be someone he worked with before. Just the “mediots” again, haha
by lchristmas on Jan 24, 2012 3:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
Just seems like a huge leap by the press to guess who the new coach was going to be, yet Cork, Tafur, etc. made it sound like it was in the can.
I like Allen better than Moss
Moss = former LB coach
Allen = former DC
by SmashmouthFB on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
And He Certainly Helped Get That Suck ASS "Donkey" Team Into The "PO"s!!!
It sure as hell wasn’t on the strength of their “O”!!!
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Reggie Say's "Not So Fast"!!!
Raiders | No negotiations with Dennis Allen
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:58:50 -0800
Updating a previous report, Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie said the team is not yet in negotiations with Denver Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen to be the team’s next head coach.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
This Suspense Is Ridicules When "Mediot" Jerks Speak Shit!!!
CSN-Bay Area: No negotiations with Allen yet
By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
Tuesday, January 24th, 2012 at 2:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie was scheduled to meet with Denver defensive coordinator Dennis Allen Tuesday night for a second interview for the club’s vacant head coaching job, but McKenzie told CSN-Bay Area reports of "negotiations’’ were premature.
ESPN reported Tuesday morning the Raiders had identified Allen as the lead candidate and were negotiating a contract.
"There’s no negotiations (right now),’’ McKenzie said.
Citing "multiple league sources,’’ the ESPN reported Tuesday that other candidates, including Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice have been formed they are no longer under consideration.
Asked by CSN-Bay Area if Allen could lock up the job Tuesday night, McKenzie said. "He could. Depends. He’s got a lot of stuff he needs to answer. Nah, it’s not a lock, irregardless of other people’s reports.’’
McKenzie said the fates of other candidates would depend on Allen’s interview.
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I hope he does lock it up
Since there’s nobody impressive on Reggie’s list anyway and since he’s made it this far in the interview process, we may as well sign Allen and get him settled in. They got a lot of work to do evaluating a team they don’t know much about.
Wake the fuck up Brother!
This guy isn’t even as good as Shanarat! and that’s what we want running this Club? TERRRRRRRRIBBBBBLEEE !!!!!!!!! Big Time ….or NOTHING!. You know better Brother , DON’T settle for less ’Nasty!!!!
lol
I hear ya, Wyo. I really do. I wish we could do better. Really doesn’t seem like Reggie wants to though. He laughed off a suggestion to bring back Gruden, and certainly doesn’t seem like he’s talked to any big names. Either that or they want nothing to do with us. Take your pick.. Allen, Moss, Bowles or the guy who’s name I can’t pronounce from Philly. Dunno man, sounds fatalistic I know, but this seems to be what’s in the cards unless he pulls out some mystery man in the 11th hour.
btw
Went back and looked at last year’s thread and saw you were about the only dissenter suggesting Hue wasn’t ready to be HC. Guess you were on to something.
NO FUCKING WAY NATION!
This is WAAAAAAAAAAY unacceptable Raider Nation . I’ve watched this show since 1967 and no fucking way I watch ANOTHER Denver REJECT take the helm of my Raiders.
Gruden – Cower nothing (much) less for me. We need EXPERIENCED Head Coaching canidates. R.F.F.R.
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