Oakland Raider Rumors: Greg Knapp Is Rumored To Be New OC:
There you have it. The Oakland Raider offense that was semi-resurrected after Cable, Knapp and J-Russ ran it into the ground is back, with two exceptions. Tom Cable and JaMarcus Russell will not be in Oakland this year, or any other for that matter, but, Greg Knapp is reportedly back in Oakland. (Source: Wiki)
I am neutral on this one, but, am tilting toward, "What are you thinking?".
Knapp is a well known West Coast offensive coordinator who's best days were at the head of San Francisco and Atlanta's offense from 2001-2006. Interestingly enough, he was replaced in Atlanta by Hue Jackson after he and Jim Mora Jr. were fired following the 2006 season.
This is a bit of a head-scratcher because the strength of this Raider team is power running and getting the receivers downfield.
He failed in Oakland and was stripped of his play calling duties by Tom Cable and then was one and done with Jim Mora Jr. in Seattle.
This is not the type of move I was hoping for. I was hoping for an offensive coordinator, like, ummmmm, Al Saunders. An experienced OC who is one of the most respected minds in the game who would be a strong pillar for a young coach, not a retread who football seems to have passed by.
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Ill give him a chance
Like most OC’s, he looks good with good players and bad with bad (duh).
I just hope he is smart enough to use his available talent the way it needs to be used…
Big risk for Dennis making this his first big hire. Raider fans at the Coliseum know this guy, know his history and it will not be long before the boobirds come out long and loud if this doesn’t work.
by lchristmas on Jan 31, 2012 8:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Meh.
Cant say I am excited, however, it could be a lot worse and I am interested to see what he can do for us – without dealing with Jamarcus on the side.
smoke dank, not crank.
We saw what he could do for us
It wasn’t just Russell that held us back…Knapp did too.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Anyone but him basically...
How about?
Tom Clements
Jim Zorn
Al Saunders
Todd Haley
Regardless…I have no doubt there are many up and coming position coaches as well but there’s no point in researching them now.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
I'd like Cam Cameron, Personally:
I am starting to think that this is an insurance move. No way does Knapp take Allen’s job. Freaking politics!
Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...
- J Kerouac
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 31, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
I agree...he didn't want someone that could challenge him and make him look bad
Any of those guys I listed could out shine Allen in his first year and he may be paranoid they’d undermine him.
If paranoia is the problem, then Haley should have been the solution.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Come on man, "It wasnt J-Russell that held us back, it was Knapp"
You just lost ALL credibility on this subject
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 31, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
just Russell* and Knapp too*
Russell held us back in the passing game and the running game was awesome for a shit team with shit talent. Different era now, I do not for a second believe it was simply politics. Allen knows that McKenzie wants the same guy coaching for years to come so politics are in no way in play right now. If this move was made after a losing season maybe, but hiring the wrong OC for your first year coaching because of paranoia is not going to keep your job longer, you want the right guy for the job to make you look better.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 31, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, we have to remember that Russell could handle learning the whole playbook
He was only able to work with a handful of plays most of the time. And the O-Line didn’t even try blocking for him because he sucked so much. And he couldn’t hit the WRs to save his life.
I’m no fan of this move, but I’m willing to give it a chance with the team we have now.
exactly, none of us are happy but to be so certain that the damn world is collapsing on us already is absurd
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 31, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
No one is saying the world is collapsing
But as a fan it’s OK to be overly critical of moves your team makes. Will I support the team and get behind this eventually yes…but it’s still a poor decision and that’s just my opinion.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I think Allen wants to build a staff that will remain in tact for more than a season.
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
I certainly hope not with Knapp running the offense
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't JUST Russell is what I said
Of course Russell was the biggest part of it but Knapp was the OC and the play caller at that time and he bears some responsibility too.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I already corrected that part dude, your credibility on it is still suspect
Running team thrived, Passing team Thrilled, maybe the Quarterback was a huge part of that dont you think?! Nobody wanted to play for him, NOBODY.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 31, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
passing team Sucked, Idk where thrilled came from sorry.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here."--Al Davis
"Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is."--Vince Lombardi
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 31, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
That's fine, his name is still attached to that team and that offense
That’s the way it goes…plenty of blame for everyone.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Don't you guys remember how the team would literally jump to life when Gradkowski would come in?
And then instantly deflate the moment Russell stepped back on the field. That’s nothing to do with the OC. That’s to do with the douchebag who no one wanted to play with.
That's a fair statement
The energy level was different for sure but the results were not always vastly different but they were better with Grad no doubt.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Essentially I just want to remain optimistic right now
Don’t want to spend the whole offseason in a funk. If the offense becomes anemic again under Knapp then I’ll get good a pissed off.
That is a really good point thats how Grads got to be popular!
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
We played in a lot of close games those seasons, JaFatass just couldnt
pull it off in the end (not to mention he always gave the other team a short field with his fumbles and shit) Carson will be the difference this coming season, i see a lot of close games where we win it in the end in 2012
They Were Close Games Becuse When They Had 3 Pts On Us They Knew We Couldn't Come Back!!!
They just ran off the clock and went home laughin!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 31, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
This game is still about running the ball and stopping the run
Seems to me like thats the direction Dennis is taking, and with Carson and our speedy WRs the deep ball is always a threat, no reason to panic bro, Old School Raider football is coming back to Oakland.
I believe!
Not Much For Me To Hang My Hat On Today....Maybe Tommarow Or The Next Day???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately at this point all we can do is speculate
We cant get too high or too low with these hires, we cant really predict how itll all turn out. We’ll know the answers to all our questions September 2012 when the real games will be played, i know it sucks but all we can really do is wait.
The way i see it we can either be happy or get mad, and i prefer the former. Cheers!
It's funny how we just take what we can get at this point
We’ve had so many coaches come and go recently that most of us don’t even bother to get excited or down about it…we’re just neutral as saint pointed out.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly
And really what can we do at this point? i’m a glass half full kind of guy, i like to be happy all the time lol so i try not to read too much into all of this, i just take the positives and roll with it.
Sometimes i wish i could just go to sleep and wake up in September, not too excited about the SB because for the first time in a LONG time i got the feeling that we could’ve been playing in that game.
I just hope the Pats lose haha GO GIANTS!
Wishful Thinking
“West Coast Offense” is not Old School Raider football. And you don’t hire back a dump truck you were right in getting rid of in the first place.
by RickyMojo on Feb 1, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We all wanted to improve on D
We will get that with Gregg Knapp no matter who our DC is, he’s all about ball control and dominate in time of possession, our D will be well rested and ready to make plays
Todd Haley is a joke of a coach
at any level. His only success as an OC coincided with Kurt Warner having a HoF career resurrection. The two years he called the plays in KC their offense was beyond terrible, yet one year with Weis and Cassel goes to the Pro Bowl.
Jim Zorn has never been a successful OC.
Tom Clements would have been intriguing, but I think he becomes the man in GB or follows his buddy to Miami before he thinks about joining our staff.
I wouldn’t have minded keep Saunders around, but no one really knows is Saunders wants to call plays. Since his stint in Washington as the OC, he hasn’t been a play calling role, but served in more of an advisory role.
I was hoping Allen would look at the Saints staff for his OC, and I’m not crazy about Knapp, but he’s a guy with whom Allen has history. I can’t hold his time under Kiffin against him, either. I’m adopting a wait and see attitude with Allen and the staff he puts together.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t have minded keep Saunders around, but no one really knows is Saunders wants to call plays. Since his stint in Washington as the OC, he hasn’t been a play calling role, but served in more of an advisory role.
Actually Saunders called the plays in St. Louis with the Rams after Washington and before the Ravens (where he was a consultant) He has always called the plays as an OC until Hue wanted that role. Saunders was picked by as an OC by Marty Schottenheimer, Dick Vermeil, Joe Gibbs, and took over for Don Coryell as Head Coach when he resigned in midseason. Not picked by Knapp. BIG mistake and not encouraging.
well, after 2008 with the Rams
I could see how he wouldn’t want to call plays anymore…that team was horrid.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
This is a huge step back for this team and this offense
Allen repeatedly said yesterday that this offense will be up-tempo, fast, and aggressive and then turns around and brings in an OC that is the EXACT opposite of that. It makes no sense to me why we would bring in a west coach guy that runs zone blocking and is an unimaginative and predictable play caller when we’ve had success doing the exact opposite of that. I can’t think of a single positive that Knapp brings to the table for this team other than experience. It hasn’t been successful experience lately either and he seems to be on the decline. This goes against everything Allen said at his press conference and that’s a bad sign right of the bat.
Is Allen simply bringing in buddies that will serve as “yes” men for him? McKenzie went outside the box and didn’t hire any of his buddies so I expected the same from Allen unless it was the be st move possible. We really needed a strong presence at OC being that we have a rookie HC with no offensive experience. I cannot imagine this offense going anywhere near the moderate success we had last season and I see a very significant regression.
Defenses are going to eat us alive next year with the predictable vanilla play calling.
Knapp is to an offense as Panda bear is to a defense. Might as well keep Bresnahan while we are at it.
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run it on first and second down;
throw it on third… yeah that’ll work!!
Every man for himself...
by MMunoz33 on Jan 31, 2012 9:45 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Seemed to work pretty well when DMC was healthy
and we were running 40 times a game in wins against the Donkeys and Jets…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Knapp's offenses in Atlanta weren't explosive?
You do realize we still had some plays where we zone blocked in 2011, right?
For all this bluster about the offense regressing, are we forgetting that Palmer’s numbers project to nearly 30 INTs? It’s not like we’re bringing in Knapp to replace Sean Payton or the production of the Saints or Patriots offenses.
Who really know what Knapp can do with a QB of Palmer’s ability? The only time in his stints as OC that he had a Pro Bowl caliber QB was with Vick in Atlanta. His one season in Seattle was marred by Hasselbeck’s injury. He was handed a complete bag of shit in his first stint in Oakland.
I’m inclined to see what happens before I write this off as a bad hire. Bitching about it when it’s unconfirmed, and we haven’t yet seen what he can do with the talent we have on the that offense is like praising JaMarcus Russell as the next John Elway when he’d never taken an NFL snap. We just don’t know…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I see what they are trying to do here
A defensive minded head coach is going to want a more ball-control style of attack like a wco. Limit Carson’s turnovers and play it safer, blah blah blah. I don’t like it, because it is not a fit with our players and does not play to the potential of our best players. We don’t really have timing route running receivers, and Palmer is not a great intermediate passer, unless we were to keep Campbell. I’m just not sure I see the upside in this hire, except the idea being that we will keep the defense off the field more, but we will score much less.
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You never know the future
2005 @ ATL – Jim Mora(HC), Greg Knapp(OC), Dennis Allen(Quality control)
2012 @ OAK – Allen(HC), Knapp(OC), Mora(UCLA HC)
Boo Birds
They must think Raiders fans are stupid and do not remember when he was here before. If he starts calling these four yard slants on third and seven I will be one of the Boo Birds!
nothing we can do about it;
except bot buy tickets or merhandise from The Raiders until they truly get it!!!!!
I really didn’t think we’d fall flat on our face out of the gate, but as it seems now… I want Hue Jackson back, Saunders OC and get us Bowles as the DC..
Mark Davis said Reggie has his guy…
“if we win that’s good, if we don’t, that’s not so good!” no shit Reggie
Every man for himself...
by MMunoz33 on Jan 31, 2012 9:39 AM PST via Android app reply actions
Not a fan of this one
No choice but to roll with it if it ends up happening, but it’s a big disappointment on paper right now.
We’ve got to give all of these coaches a chance. The Texans, with Knapp as QB’s coach, looked pretty good. It’s not like he drove a good QB into the ground. In fact, TJ Yates had a terrific year stepping in for Schaub. We need to support the team and remain positive……stop whining!!!!
Of course we have to support the coaches
What other choice is there? None of us want these guys to fail, but it’s hard to forget those dark, dark days from a few years back.
But that’s a solid point about his work in Houston. Here’s hoping that it was Russell and Cable holding Knapp back while her was here.
What Up With All The Low Budget Coaches???....Now Don't Tyr To Tell me Their Getting The Big $$$$'s!!!
Pleas someone tell me we aren’t cutting down the overhead prior to selling out
"Tebowphobe"!!!
This is part of the risk of hiring a rookie HC
They don’t understand what it takes to hire a winning staff…you have to bring in the best fit for the team…not hire your buddies and guys you know won’t challenge you. This is looking like it may be an eye opening year for Allen.
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In other news
ESPN is saying that the Broncos have denied the Raiders the chance to talk with Richard Smith for the DC job. So he’s no longer on the list.
I Rather Think They Did Us A Huge Favor Judging From His Choice Of "OC"???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 31, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention they upgraded with Del Rio
I wonder what it’s like to bring in successful coaches and the excitement that it brings.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Tune In Next Season For "Dennis The Menace" Get's RAN!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 31, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Jack Del Rio only had one stint as DC
We really dont know if hes that good, lets see how he does with Tim “3 n out” Tebow
Greg Knapp - The Anti-Riverboat Gambler
Like many of you, this morning’s news that the Raiders were considering bringing back Greg Knapp as its offensive coordinator had me puzzled.
I’ve always been a proponent that coaching should be about putting players in the best position to succeed. Thus, when Coach Allen about his role as head coach, I was duly impressed – I don’t have the exact quote, but it was something to the effect of “My job is to find out what our players do best and create a system that allows them to succeed.”
Recent history shows that past Raiders coaches have succeeded in this idea to one degree or another. Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable installed a zone-blocking scheme after the 2006 9-step drop offense was a disaster, and the team’s rushing totals increased significantly. Then, as both the ZBS and Darren McFadden began to struggle, Hue Jackson took steps to put the offense in a better position to succeed by reintroducing more power blocking and installing running plays better suited to McFadden’s style.
Now with Knapp at the helm of the offense, we’re all looking at the Raiders’ offensive personnel, trying to place it into Knapp’s known offensive philosophies, and wondering “Is this really the system that puts our players in the best position to succeed?” Coach Allen yesterday said he wanted a team that was aggressive in the passing game, and that doesn’t sound like Greg Knapp at all. We’re also wondering if Knapp will stick to his philosophies on offensive line play, where our current roster seems better suited for more power blocking. Furthermore, even as fans we’re cognizant that McFadden thrived under Jackson’s offensive scheme, and seemed to struggle with the one-cut system Knapp may install.
Tim Kawakami was blasting us Al Saunders supporters on Twitter earlier today, wondering why we’d support a guy who was an architect of the 16th ranked scoring offense. Kawakami misses the point – its not the results we were looking at, it was an acknowledgement that Saunders’ system was well-suited to the Raiders’ offensive roster.
Nevertheless, I’m willing to give Greg Knapp the benefit of the doubt to see what his plans are for the 2012 Oakland Raiders. One nice thing is that he’s certain to be more conservative, which at times will be a nice change from the Riverboat Gambler that Jackson was. We can only hope that Knapp can stick to the philosophy that a coach builds a system around the players, and doesn’t try to put a square peg in a round hole.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
by LiveAdam on Jan 31, 2012 10:02 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Considering the injuries we had on offense
I think Saunders did a fantastic job. I know he didn’t specifically call the plays but he drew up the playbook and I actually think had Saunders called the plays…we’d have seen better results when the riverboat gambler got too greedy. Plus he did an admirable job getting Carson up to speed mid-season.
There are very few reasons to see how this move will improve the offense and slew of reasons as to why this will hamper and regress the offense we have come to enjoy. I agree Hue gambled too much at times but this is the going way too far over to other end of the spectrum and this move is going to waste the talent we have on this side of the ball.
What bothers me is that this hire clearly indicates the direction of this team…we will be a grinding team on offense that tries to control the clock and tire teams out…sound familiar? Maybe Pryor is our Tebow in Allen’s vision.
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by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
This move is the definition of insanity
Let’s look at our history of bringing back coaches:
Art Shell
Chuck Bresnahan
I rest my case.
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I'm actually sick to my stomach
This is ridiculous.
Let one of if not the most prolific OCs in the game for a guy that got his play calling duties stripped last time he was in town.
Although I will say this. I’m glad I’ll be saving 360 bucks this season. I may go to a game or two but I don’t think I want to shell out my hard earned money to watch Lechler break all the punting records. Time will tell if that decision is final but Allen is already screwing up.
I hate SAFE. Grow some balls and put some points on the board.
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 31, 2012 10:22 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I think this is the opposite of a "safe" hire and for crazy reasons I respect it
dennis had to know of knapp’s stay here, how this move would be seen, and he still said fuck it this is the man for the job. Ballsy.
Re Knapp’s previous stint here… Remember, this is when Al still thought J walrus could be a “great quarterback” and he probably wanted plays to be called as such. knapp knew how awful the deuce was and called an ultra-conservative game plan to limit the mistakes. Hence, Al wins. Play calling duties stripped.
I’ll go in with an open mind, but I will go… And i always bring my pitchfork and booing voice just in case.
by lchristmas on Jan 31, 2012 10:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
it's a bit of a reach for me, but I'm going with it too
fuck. why is it always a seemingly good move, followed by another, followed by a question mark? The one good thing is all the bad things we had going for us in his last stint here, that maybe if we get everything else right and everythings moving towards a new goal we can expect altogether different results. Damn I hate the constant iffing our way through everything, especially when it’s trying to justify another questionable decision.
with Carson under center at least it’s a night and day difference from Jawalrus.
benefit of the doubt… benefit of the doubt… ugh
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"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
I'm not buying season tickets either...
Fans went all in with ; In Hue we trust"
that now we’re going to be careful with buying in with whatever Mark, Reggie, Dennis, and GWEN are selling!
Every man for himself...
not exactly feeling it right now either
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Now I Get It...It Was All A Misquotation!!...NOT "Explosive Offense" But "Implosive Offense Is What Dennis Wants!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
NOT GOOD...NOT GOOD AT ALL!!!
Greg Knap is an OC who likes to run the ball most of the time. That is what he did when he was the Falcons OC and he tried to pull that crap when he was our OC when Cable was the Head Coach and his playcalling was taken away.
If Jamarcus russell was your qb what plays would you call?
I will not judge him based on that stint. I am not thrilled with this but I’m not calling for a code red without seeing what the plan is.
Look at the personnel he had in Atlanta. That was a running team.
by lchristmas on Jan 31, 2012 10:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
no warm fuzzy feelings
I’m willing to give him a chance, but I don’t like this at all. I was a fan of the “riverboat gambler” and don’t like the west coast offense (with this team). I would erase anything, and everything that existed when the walrus was our QB. I’m hoping this isn’t official and that something will change. Oh well I’ll still be yelling that donkeys ain’t shiiii.
Whats wrong with
Running the Ball and then throwing when they stopped it? I think we should just give a clean slate to anyone who was under AL because it was ran the way he wanted and they all had Russell
Nothing wrong with it, to me the best game of this season was the Chargers TNF game (play calling wise)
Run, run, run, deep ball, run, run, run, deep ball and a well rested play making defense…
Seems to me like thats what we’re gonna get in 2012. I personally have no problems with that, thats how you truly dominate an opponent IMO.
True but...
Thats true but, if the other team knows you are running your offense that way it can be more difficult (not impossible) to move the ball. Crowd the line on first and second spread on third. The bottomline is you can’t advertise your intentions.
Thats why you change it up, every once in a while you go for the deep ball on first or second down
And you tire up the defense with all that running and them being on the field for so long, you make them think and when a player starts thinking hes less effective.
You dont run on 1st and 2nd and throw on third all the time, you change it up but you focus on running the football more then boom! you connect on the deep ball when they crowd the line of scrimmage, running up the gut, pitchs, play action passes, hb screens, wr screens, deep passes, there’s a lot of things you can do, this is the NFL after all not Pop Warner.
I still think we all need to keep in mind that Knapp had to deal with
JaMarcus F’ing Russell when he was here. Biggest damn bust in the NFL. And the only solid receiver we had back then was Zack Miller. Russell couldn’t hit any actual WRs. He’d over or under throw them by 10 yards. And he had no pocket awareness, constantly fumbled the ball, and no one like playing for him.
Now we’ve got a McFadden who, when healthy, is explosive (and Knapp can look at film to see how best to utilize him), a QB in Palmer who can throw the damn ball, and a set of receivers who can make plays.
I’m not saying this hire thrills me. I don’t like it. But we’re a different beast now and I’m willing to see how much of our crap offense from before was due to Knapp, or just an idiot who didn’t want to play football and couldn’t learn a freakin’ playbook.
good point
the walrus was bad, real bad. lets hope he was messing up the whole equation.
quit copying my thoughts and stating them much more intelligently
by lchristmas on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
It's not just his last stint here that stunk
Look at his previous work as well. Ask fans from the falcons, seahawks, and niners how they felt about him. I didn’t care for the hire the first time around either.
I agree that Russell handicapped Knapp just like he would have for just about any other coach out there.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
In A Stupor As I Search For My Lost Shaker Of Salt -n- My Raider KoolAid!!!
I just spilled my Mug today and have such a quiver in my hand that I doubt I can hold it long enough for a refill…
Wheres my eyes???…I can’t even see the damn thing now here on my knees searching around on this floor…
But not to worry…I will eventually get my composure back as soon as can find the toilet so I can PUKE!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Coffee Spill
I spilled coffee all over the inside of my truck yesterday morning and that was a better day than hearing this.
by Mallard Davis on Jan 31, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I don't get it...
Why was Greg Knapp hired when Tom Walsh was still available?
by Old Raider Dude on Jan 31, 2012 11:04 AM PST reply actions
That brings back very painful memories bro haha
Except for the Steelers game, i absolutely loved that game haha
The new face of the franchise sailing the ship now... Mark Davis aka Capt. K

by Old Raider Dude on Jan 31, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
"Smokin cigarette's and watchin' Captain Kangaroo... now don't tell me i've nothing to do"
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
The Reality!!..."The Apple Dosen't Fall Far From The Tree"....Think Al Had A Hand In This???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 31, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
this is exactly what this hire reminds me of… smh
but in reality, I’m interested to see what he can do with a real offense, that shiit he had to work with before was a JOKE. With Palmer, DMC and the power running game, the deep receiving corps, Knapp has no excuse to fail with this group.
Re-sign Josh Willingham now!
by sf drift king on Feb 2, 2012 3:12 AM PST up reply actions
An Offensive Coordinator Can Look Brilliant...
…with the right players. Knapp’s tenure in Houston shows that he didn’t get in the way of himself despite losing his starting QB.
The key next year is health above all else for this offense. Two people in particular come to mind, McFadden and our QB. The receivers as well need to perform at the level they did this year.
As long as the scheme he uses takes advantage of Palmer’s strengths , we should be all right.
"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King
That would be fine, if Knapp actully called the plays in Houston. Coaching a QB has very little to do with calling plays
I keep hearing about Houston offense and the lost of their QB’s. what dose that have to do with anything? Knapp has never had success as a play caller.
by Captain Chaos on Jan 31, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
An offensive line coach call better plays than Knapp.
That’s right. When Cable was dubbed interim coach in place of Kiffin, Cable relieved Knapp of is play calling duties. Believe it or not, Cable turned the Raiders offense around and had more wins than losses when he gave Knapp the Axe. This hire reeks of the same stench as the 2006 bed & breakfast hire of Tom Walsh.
The play calling was so much for Cable that after the half of a season they brought in a new OC remember Hue.
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
I think that just goes to show how bad Knapp actually was/is
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
I hope we atleast keep Bob Wylie as O-Line Coach and maybe Steve Wisniewski
Al Saunders may get a lesser role if he stays.
Wasnt a big fan of John Fassel either, our coverage team was pure garbage.
Knapp’s hiring means that there is now probably an even better chance of the Raiders retaining Bush. He is a fan of rotating backs and keeping them fresh.
To me the most interesting question is what happens with the o-line. The Raiders under Hue ran a power blocking scheme. Knapp is a zone blocking guy. Does that mean Wylie and Wiz will be let go? Also Knapp likes to rely on centers rather than the QB to make changes at the line so it’ll be interesting what shakes out long term with Satele and Stefan Wisniewski. Hopefull also this will lead to an ugrade over the right side of the line which was the weak spot of the offense last season.
It's a new day!
It’s not so bad switching to a Knapp’s West Coast system with the current Raiders personnel.
All the Raiders need on offense is a new QB, RB, WR’s and an O-line and they will be ready to go!
Who knows, maybe in 5-10 years the offense could be as good as they are now.
Great move and great hire!
by Old Raider Dude on Jan 31, 2012 11:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Damn straight!
Who wants to see all those long McFadden runs and Palmer bombs anyway?
I long for the days when opponents would go up by 3 points in the 1st quarter and I could just pass out on the couch knowing the game was over and the Raiders were done until next week.
F’n Hue had me watching till the end and it was exhausting. Thank God that Dennis “the menace” Allen has the Raiders back on the right track now.
by Old Raider Dude on Jan 31, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Summed it up nicely
Dennis just shit on everything i love about football. Thanks Reggie!
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
You are correct sir!
And every knowledgible fan knows the offense should really be built around the fullback anyway.
This Dennis Allen is one shrewd HC!
by Old Raider Dude on Jan 31, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
turribl offense for palmer. hate it.
and lol at the people saying “ill give him a chance”. well no shit, raiders til i die.
I was excited when reggie was hired
but the next two hires have the smell of shit all over them. Why not bring back the bed and breakfast offense while you are at it? Allen sucks already if this is his metric of attention to detail. 31st in the league passing ring a bell?
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 11:54 AM PST reply actions

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Good God! My eyes!
I was just trying to lighten it up a little and you had to go there. Just F’n wrong if you ask me.
by Old Raider Dude on Jan 31, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Does anyone think that Allen is trying to emulate what Denver did last year?
Bringing in Knapp signals that we will be a run heavy team that eats up the clock and will look to win the close games. We will obviously not run the option offense but it looks like we will going with the run, run, deep throw mentality next year.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
Knapp is west coast though
So more crossing routes and slants than deep balls.
John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - WARRIORS - CANUCKS - MUAY THAI
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
oh good...exactly what we don't excel at
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jan 31, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Denarious Moore & Jacoby Ford would be excellent at running slants...
DHB ?? Not so much
Every man for himself...
"D" Wins Championships So Why Fret Right!!!
I think we all agree that the “D” should be vastly improved so what if the “O” takes a dive….
Maybe a deal for Tebow is in the works so we can be blessed!!!
LoL!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
It's just byast on my part
I just can’t get over letting Saunders go who’s strung together no. 1 offenses almost everywhere he’s ever gone.
Knapp holds the same mentality I do which is run the football a lot. I just hate it since we already had that guy and he stunk it up for us. Yes he had Jamarcus to deal with, but there’s more then that on my general dislike of this pick.
This is an offensively driven league. I don’t care how good your defense is you have to be able to put up 25+ per game to make it now because if an offense can’t beat you the refs will.
As long as Zone Blocking isn’t put back in I guess it’ll do. Just a real shame that we couldn’t watch this offense under the control of one of the truly great offensive minds.
The biggest benefit I can pull from this is the off chance that we let Bush go and make a real attempt at getting Lynch. I don’t see McFadden excelling now because Knapp is gonna have him hurt by week 3.
"The Raiders are the Bad Guy Professional Wrestlers of the NFL. Everybody hates us, and loves nothing more then to watch us lose. We got the costumes, we got the facepaint, and the attitude. All we are missing is a bunch of rednecks to start chanting USA USA USA at us..." - ME
"Contrary to popular belief, Al Davis is in heaven. Satan did not want Al in his domain, since Al already owns 49% of Hell and has always been known as a "Demon's Owner" " - ME
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by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 31, 2012 12:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions
it certainly doesn't inspire confidence in the McKenzie and Allen statements that we're chasing championships right away
rather, it indicates we’ll be content with a predictable offense while we look for a new identity during rebuilding phase.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
by brhynno on Jan 31, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's exactly why a move like this rubs me the wrong way
They talk about championships and and up-tempo, fast, and aggressive offense and then go and hire the most predictable vanilla OC re-tread they can find and expect us to believe what they are telling us? I know we have to wait to see the results on the field before making any final judgement calls but this move is so uninspiring and screams regression or at best status quo.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Feb 1, 2012 4:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ya were retreads allright, 49ers fans are laughing about picking there former coaches
were not raider retreads, were 49er retreads, i am sick to my stomach with knapp as the oc and if allen does hire manusky, thats ok. he did a good job at the 49ers but the o, omg where to begin with this guy with our talent. this was a bad choice and what about al saunders?
by sports with steve on Feb 1, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
He is interviewing in KC
Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...
- J Kerouac
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 2, 2012 6:21 AM PST up reply actions
It's just byast on my part
I just can’t get over letting Saunders go who’s strung together no. 1 offenses almost everywhere he’s ever gone.
Knapp holds the same mentality I do which is run the football a lot. I just hate it since we already had that guy and he stunk it up for us. Yes he had Jamarcus to deal with, but there’s more then that on my general dislike of this pick.
This is an offensively driven league. I don’t care how good your defense is you have to be able to put up 25+ per game to make it now because if an offense can’t beat you the refs will.
As long as Zone Blocking isn’t put back in I guess it’ll do. Just a real shame that we couldn’t watch this offense under the control of one of the truly great offensive minds.
The biggest benefit I can pull from this is the off chance that we let Bush go and make a real attempt at getting Lynch. I don’t see McFadden excelling now because Knapp is gonna have him hurt by week 3.
"The Raiders are the Bad Guy Professional Wrestlers of the NFL. Everybody hates us, and loves nothing more then to watch us lose. We got the costumes, we got the facepaint, and the attitude. All we are missing is a bunch of rednecks to start chanting USA USA USA at us..." - ME
"Contrary to popular belief, Al Davis is in heaven. Satan did not want Al in his domain, since Al already owns 49% of Hell and has always been known as a "Demon's Owner" " - ME
Follow me on Twitter: @JasonViolation
by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 31, 2012 12:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Could be worse...
Knapp isn’t the worst hire. Obviously, going from what Allen said in his press conference, the Raiders want to be physical and run the ball (as they always have). Knapp has done a fabulous job of that wherever he has gone, so that aspect should be ok. By having a power running game it allows Carson to play action and set up Darius, Ford, and Moore down field. Look at what Knapp did in Texas after losing Schaub; he centered on the running game and still took chances down field with a third string QB, without Andre Johnson for most of the season btw. I think things are a lot better off since the last time Knapp was in Oakland, and I think things are looking up. Still need to seal up the defense, and I hope Allen makes a splash with that hire to regain some support of the Raider Nation that he may have lost with the hiring of Knapp.
Knapp was the QB coach in houston
not the OC. bring him here as the QB coach and were fine with that but nothing more
by dawad34 on Jan 31, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
True...
…but he managed to get Yates prepared.
by TheRustedSign on Jan 31, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
ok bring him over as the QB coach then
not the OC
by dawad34 on Jan 31, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, the Raiders aren't exactly built like GB
But I was certainly hoping we’d have an offense more akin to that of The Saints. Very dynamic. Oh well.
That's it
We can do better than Manusky and Knapp, and we should have with the new coach talking about championships.
dynamically offensive
not dynamic offense lol
by dawad34 on Jan 31, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
NFL Network: Knapp a done deal
Greg Knapp will return to Oakland as offensive coordinator, the NFL Network is reporting.
Allen declined to confirm Knapp’s addition to the staff in an interview with KNBR Tuesday morning, saying he and general manager Reggie McKenzie would meet and determine when to release information regarding staff hires.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Al is rolling Over.
It already seams that the new GM has ego problems. Knapp may be ok after all he did have a great offense with houston. I have been Raider fan for 45 years and every time we develope someting good, we shoot ourselves in the foot. This move may be the same.
Richard L Rose'
so is Al Saunders
he is prob saying really? your replacing me with Knapp?
by dawad34 on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wishful thinking here
I hope Al Saunders stays as a consultant, passing game coordinator, whatever name they want to call his position, but just let him stay, he wasnt calling the plays this season after all, so why shouldnt he stay?
by Raider Roy on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe KC
I hope Saunders gets the OC position with the Chiefs and kicks Knapp’s butt twice a year! This stinks!
You never know
HC’s do need assistants and Saunders is already on the payroll, would make a good stratagist for the offensive game plans or that matter the playbook has to come from somewhere. Just a thought.
"Committed To Excellence" Mostly just "Committed" though
by GoldCityRaider on Jan 31, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
All we need to do now
Is retain Chuck Bresnahan, get Jamarcus Russell out of the home town buffet. Sign Jerry Porter get Kwayme Harris and Mario Henderson back…. And BOOM DREAM TEAM!
Great idea!
JaCarcass already knows all three of Knapp’s plays so it wouldn’t be such a bad idea.
And I bet JaLardass is getting short of money about now too so we could probably get him for 1/2 a bucket of chicken wings and some purple drank.
Did you hear that Mark Davis?
The Dream Team QB for $9.99!
Do it now!
by Old Raider Dude on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
dude thats total BS and you know it.
half a bucket of wings and purple drank will cost you at least $14.99 now
The saddest part about all of this is that technically
Bresnahan has managed to keep his job longer than the coaches who didn’t absolutely suck.
Knapp has sucked since his days at Sac State, he has never been successful anywhere he has been……well I guess its just “Wait till next year” already….Time to start looking to the 2013-2014 season.
Yeah... it's inevitable "at this point"
rookie HC + thin pool of available assistants = no elite assistants
For the love of God
the guy hasn’t done anything yet and everyone is already saying he sucks. When he was the OC in San Francisco, their offense was in the top 10 every year he was there. When he was in Atlanta, there offense was in the middle of the pack. Then under him the Raiders offense was in the bottom of the pack, but when he went to Seattle, their offense was in the middle of the pack. Heck from 2005, which is pre Knapp to 2009 which was after Knapp, the Raiders were in the bottom third in total offense. So he’s not a terrible OC as everyone wants to make himself out to be. Plus it wasn’t like the Raiders were an offensive juggarnut back then anyways.
The issue is this
Knapp may not be atrocious but he’s certainly not Al Saunders. If number 1 offenses were given rings Saunders would have 5 easy.
He may not be too bad but next to the guy we already have he’s absolute shit.
These moves all look like power plays to me. McKenzie and Davis are changing EVERYTHING when I could have sworn I heard them mumbling about keeping Al Davis dream going. Al Davis hasn’t stopped rolling in his grave since the very first press conference.
And who’s to say Davis isn’t pulling some kinda Major League move to help get the team moved?
"The Raiders are the Bad Guy Professional Wrestlers of the NFL. Everybody hates us, and loves nothing more then to watch us lose. We got the costumes, we got the facepaint, and the attitude. All we are missing is a bunch of rednecks to start chanting USA USA USA at us..." - ME
"Contrary to popular belief, Al Davis is in heaven. Satan did not want Al in his domain, since Al already owns 49% of Hell and has always been known as a "Demon's Owner" " - ME
Follow me on Twitter: @JasonViolation
by TheDudeAbides138 on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The similarities of Gwen Knapp and Greg Knapp are astronomical!!


Both are somehow linked to the terror group known as the San Francisco 49ers.
Awesome work:
Vast boars and huge gigantic bull
Elephants, rams, eagles, condors...
- J Kerouac
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 31, 2012 8:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I dont like this move ONE BIT!!!!!!!
Why take away an OC form an offense that I think was #9 in the league last season???
by A Stable Stabler on Jan 31, 2012 3:17 PM PST reply actions
the knapp hire wasn't "good". i guess ok is the better word for it.
I mean he did have Jruss as the QB. He was the one that overthrew wrs and had no pocket presence! I guess right now its just wait and see. We can’t get depressed already. Maybe this time around things will work with knapp. Carson is an nfl QB and knapp helped with TJ yates. The key to the offense will remain DMC’s health as long as he’s here. He seriously needs to kick Chuck outta here though. I hope knapp sits down with DMC like hue did though.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 31, 2012 3:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
im usually the pessimist when it comes to the Raiders.
I actually hope this works out. He doesn’t have to be Sean Payton, as long as he feeds the RBs.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 31, 2012 3:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Haha I guess “ok” is putting it nicely. Most of y’all, if not all, think its bad. I’m just gonna wait and see.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Jan 31, 2012 3:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously?
We’re thinking about hiring a guy that was fired by the f’ing Chargers? The team that keeps Norv around despite their team only getting worse?
Not in the NFL
Jacksonville gave up on the first coach the franchise had ever known. Deemed him “too old-school and out of touch.” That same coach is going to be coaching in his second Super Bowl on Sunday. I can’t tell you how many times Paul Hackett has been given second chances as an OC, even though he’s about as Vanilla as it gets.
Hue was on his third chance at OC when he came here in 2010. Why anyone would Brian Schottenheimer another shot as an OC I’ll never understand. I can’t tell you how many times Wade Phillips has been a DC or HC in this league, or how many times Norv Turner has been an OC and HC. Hell, the guy that everyone seems to be pining for to have stayed in Saunders is about as well traveled a coach as you’re going to find…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
does reggie know anything about the AFC west?
It seems to me that maybe he is buying into the (san diego is reallly good…look at their record..) stuff that you hear on esp-shity-n. I am beginning to think he doesn’t know jack about the AFC west. How is Marc’s little bitch ass letting this happen? How did Al leave behind such a wuss? This is Davis’ Raiders, not the falcons, not the whiners. To think this guy thinks its better to replace Raiders with donks and chargers!? Today has been a bad day, hopefully, tomorrow I will wake up and this won’t taste so bad. But for now, it tastes like dook.
today has to be april fools
donk and charger coaches? we need a chiefs coach now to complete the circle
Saunders is still under contract
and he pulls the Chargers and Chiefs daily double…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Completely absurd
Saunders has been a Chief, Ram, Charger, Redskin and Raven before he was a Raider.
Jackson had been a Redskin, Bengal, Falcon, and Raven before arriving.
Gruden had been on the staff of the 49ers, Packers and Eagles before landing in Oakland.
Coaches move around so much that nearly anyone they hired would have, at some point been associated with the enemy.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
I don't mind where the coaches come from
I just care about how good they were with the team. I don’t like the idea of us potentially hiring a guy that was just fired by the Chargers. I’d not want to look at any AFC West coaches because none of the teams in this division are actually good.
I'm not crazy about Manusky, either
but I think he was Norvell’s sacrificial lamb, also. SD’s offense turned the ball over a whole lot…There are DCs keeping their jobs with worse performances than Manusky’s…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ughhh
Not big on the hire of Allen, now this. If we get some schmuck at DC, ughhhh. I’m no gloom and doomer though. I’m more than willing to give these guys a chance (in some cases a 2nd chance). As far as players, offensively, we are a far superior team to that train wreck led by JaWalrus. If Knapp fails, there will be no excuse and should be booted after one year. Allen sounds like he knows what he wants, so for now I’m going to stay positive. Change has come and it is certainly different. Embrace it Raider Nation, it is what you wanted (just with different people in mind).
by lakers007raiders on Jan 31, 2012 4:24 PM PST reply actions
so far coach Allens moves are very suspect
I was amped by the press conference yesterday and now im not feeling so pumped. I will reserve judgment till the season starts but im not very happy with his selections at the moment
Knapp and Manusky are basically the opposite type of coaches I would have expected after that press conference.
Allen was talking about playing fast, aggressive, dynamic football. And both Knapp and Manusky are known for being pretty damn bland and conservative. Manusky took a very good Chargers defense and made them mediocre at best. Plus, after he left the Niners they got really damn good. Don’t like a single thing about this interview. Hopefully the job goes to someone better.
No matter who Allen brings in
people are going to bitch. The SF defense got better because of some key additions, too. Aldon Smith, Carlos Rogers, and Donte Whitner made a boat load of plays for that defense.
The one thing Allen also stressed was discipline. To focus on discipline maybe having the biggest offensive playbook and a bunch of exotic blitzes dialed up every week gets your players thinking instead of reacting. If you’re going to improve discipline, you have to simplify what you’re coaching, and bringing the guy that helped create the monsters that are Willis and Bowman to work with Curry and McLain can’t be a complete waste of time, either.
One of the most effective defenses in football over the past 20 years has been Dungy’s Tampa 2 that doesn’t really get exotic, it’s just assignment based football. Find the football and react…
Let’s be honest, here. Allen is in his first head coaching gig at any level, just like Hue Jax was last year. Bringing in experienced coordinators shouldn’t be a total shock.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
If the NFL coaching world is anything like the real job world, i guess its understandable he chose Knapp.
Allen worked with him, got along with him, and gives him the comfort level he needs as a hc. I can only imagine there are those coaches who are sought after, the same we fans would like to see hired. But like in the real world, only few of them would be willing to work under a rookie hc, whether it being a respect or pride issue. And on the flip side, a youmg HC will not pursue someone he doesn’t know in fear of clashing personalities, among other things. So he chooses someone he is comfortable with.
Reggie committed Allen for the long haul, on paper anyways. Hopefully he becomes our Don Shula.
well as long as Allen is happy and gets along with them its ok if the Raiders dont win any games
hiring garbage is not ok just because he gets along with them
Almost every coach has had failures in his career
guys like Knapp and Manusky keep getting jobs in the NFL because they’re probably pretty good coaches that understand the level of competition in the game.
Now if Allen went out and hired this weekends Madden-bowl champion to run his offense or defense, that would be hiring garbage.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Jan 31, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
the real questions are...after the coaches are hired, what are they going to do in the offseason to prepare the team.
I have a good feeling about this hire. I remember Gruden’s first preseason game as a Raider. Thats the energy I’m hoping for come August.
Any coach with look like a genius with the right players.
Hue washed out of two OC positions, and was the first Raider OC to have a legitimate starting QB since Callaghan had Gannon..
Saunders has looked like a genius and a complete moron at various times in his career. I don’t think Knapp is a terrible coach, I think he’s been in some shitty situations. The Raiders teams he tried to coach were the worst Raiders teams of the Al Davis era. We had speed, but the line was complete garbage.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
Yeah
But is Knapp>Saunders definitively? Because if not we’re firing a guy for nothing. He still had a year on his contract.
ok lets say Knapp-time is a good coach
he still runs a zone blocking scheme and a west coast offense. That means regressing. There is no way they can excel while learning it. It will be a year or 2 learning curve while some important pieces age or gets lost.
If McFadden can stay healthy, Carson will do well in any scheme. if they can get Boss, Reece, and Tonga more involved, they could be a great WC offense.
ya but for a wc offense you need big possesion receivers
only schilenz fits that role but he only plays 2 games a season
It might have been a family decision for Knapp
His wife is from Sacramento. Their only child currently attends college in the bay area.
If Saunders wanted to call the plays
I don’t see why he would have stuck around to just design plays for Hue to call. So like others here, I hope he stays on payroll in basically his same role as last year. I have to assume that Knapp will tailor his approach to the players we have and the general philosophy Allen expressed. I’m not excited by this, but neither am I crying until we know more.
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of 2007!
John
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by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Let's all welcome Greg Knapp back to the Nation!

John
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by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 5:49 PM PST reply actions
I do miss Fargas
Absolutely fearless.
by rightnasty on Jan 31, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this is a fuckin nightmare right?
what? Tom Walsh not returning his calls from the bed n breakfast he works at now? Holy shit this couldn’t be more of a stupid move, unless Panda is retained too!
OK THIS move proves that Allen is a fucking moron. Raiders fans, prepare for another dismal season. This guy was the leader of the 25th ranked O, posting a whopping 17.7 points/season here last time, with an amazing 164 yds per game passing. Oh great.
Allen sucked as a DC, ranking in the 20’s, hires a OC whom hasn’t bested the 21st ranked O since ‘03. Now we just need to hear that Dumb Fuck Chuck is staying and it completes the 2nd worst coaching staff in Raider’s history, barely falling to Art Shell and Walsh for the top spot.
If they are the worst staff in history.
At least we will be number one at something next year.
John
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by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
It will be hard to beat that one.
But you are right, we should try :D
John
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by Ionnes on Jan 31, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Those stats don't really tell the whole story
It doesn’t take into account that JaMarcus Russell was a complete loser who couldn’t play the QB position worth a damn and that the players had zero desire to play for him.
And with Denver being ranked #20 under Allen ignores the fact that they were dead freakin’ last the year before he was there.
We can complain all we want, but Dennis Allen is our coach. Might as well start hoping that he’s going to build something great here instead of going all Chicken Little over the forums before he’s coached a single game.
not chicken little...
their track record says they haven’t done anything worth a damn in a long time, if ever. When hiring people, usually successful companies choose the BEST candidates available. ranking in the 20s out of 32 is usually not the best available.
Companies which struggle (such as Raiders) usually settle for poor leaders and hope to develop them having a very low success rate.
This isn’t rocket science, it is football. You don’t take a group of underperforming coaches and put them together to make a winner.
At least we didn't hire Art Shell again. And what about Norv? The Chargers are contemt with keeping our table scraps for another season. And even the best of them have known to always come up short (Marty).
And for Allen,
Ranking 20 out of 32 was not impressive, but allowing the tebow offense to win seven games was. You have to admit that.
Knapp has never had the talent he has here.
Besides Terrell Owens and a declining Housh who else did he have to work with at WR? He might be inclined to expand the playbook for a team that has zero deficiencies at the skill positions when healthy.
maybe he will read this blog and start throwing bombs on 1st and 2nd down
run on 3rd and go for fake punts.
Not excited at all especially because of his history,
But he is inheriting a top 10 offense and as long as it stays that way I will reserve my judgment. He needs to keep to the Raider way and Pound the ball with the run and then Take shots deep (Palmer has shown the ability to make that a viable option). Also he needs to teach Palmer how to THROW THE BALL AWAY! If he does that he should be fine.
Win Lose or Tie, Raiders Til I Die
Still it is a horrible move
Saunders is an elite OC in my opinion and should have been retained. This “New Era” is looking too familiar to things that haven’t worked in the past.
Win Lose or Tie, Raiders Til I Die
Posted this in another thread but feel like it should be posted here
It’s a little breakdown of the points scored by the 49ers and Falcons when Knapp was their OC.
49ers:
2001: 409 points scored
2002: 367 points scored
2003: 384 points scored
Falcons:
2004: 340 points scored
2005: 351 points scored
2006: 292 points scored
This season our Oakland Raiders scored 359 points. So I’d say his offense do okay. With SF, they actually did pretty damn well. And keep in mind, in Atlanta Vick was the QB and he wasn’t exactly known for his passing back in those days (2006 he barely manage a completion percentage above 50%).
I think we have the right pieces for a successful WC offense. They tried to force feed JF into the next T Brown before he got hurt. with him and Schilens progressing, and a McFadden that can catch, Boss could excel in a WV scheme. And what better way
To compliment a WC offense than having 2 or 3 bombs to Denarius. I think having the 2 DMs (denarius and Mcfadden) will open up the short passing attacks. We just need to stay healthy, and if we can’t keep Bush, it’ll be TJ’s time to shine. It would be nice to keep him, especially for the second half. Imagine that, McF in the first, and a fresh Bush to finish the game..
Give the guy a break
His last stint with us was with JBust and a Terrible O-line. This year, He may have single handedly saved the season for the Texans. Greg Knap will be a really good OC, and he will work well with Reggie and Dennis.
Take a look at his interview with the Texans last year. http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/QB-coach-Knapp-on-draft-evaluations/7d986ef0-d7ce-40ca-a4fb-7a2999e24f5b
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Raiders | Kelly Skipper to be retained
Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:19:21 -0800
Oakland Raiders running backs coach Kelly Skipper will be retained by the new coaching staff, according to a source.
Raiders | Greg Manusky interviews for DC job
Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:18:20 -0800
The Oakland Raiders interviewed former San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator Greg Manusky for their vacant defensive coordinator position Tuesday, Jan. 31, according to a source.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
And the hits just keep on coming
He took #1 defense the year prior, to #16 in one year! San Diego Fired him after one year. Seriously, Who is the idiot making these calls? #20 DC as a head coach, an OC that was so poor Cable took over for him mid season of the 25th ranked O in the NFL. Now a guy that SD fired after one year for being so poor…. UGH
Great call there! Are they trying to assembly a coaching staff of idiots!?!?!?
Anyone Remember This Moment??
Interim head coach Tom Cable has taken over the play-calling duties for the Oakland Raiders from offensive coordinator Greg Knapp in another move to spark the NFL’s lowest-scoring offense.
Cable said that he relieved Knapp of his duties before last week’s 17-6 loss to the Carolina Panthers and would remain in that role for the rest of the season.
“I feel responsible for where we’re at offensively,” Cable said. “With that being the case and my nature and my personality I’ve got to find a way to do more and help where I can. I really haven’t been active in that role, obviously as the line coach, but I feel that responsibility now and want to shoulder that responsibility so I’m more involved.”
Knapp was replaced after the worst offensive output for the Raiders in 47 years, when they gained just 77 yards and had a franchise-low three first downs in a 24-0 loss to the Falcons. Things picked up a bit in Cable’s first game calling plays, with Oakland gaining 259 yards and making 17 first downs against the Panthers.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
by PantyRaider on Jan 31, 2012 9:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
THANK YOU!!!!!
Someone remembers the ineptitude of this man’s past. And to say “well he had Jawalrus and a bad O lines, so thats why” must be forgetting that Curly did make things better by taking over the dutuies!
You know this guy sucks when Curly can call plays better
excactly right
The cable guy called a better offense! He couldn’t even coach the line (his supposed area of expertise….that hurt just to type) Knapp was replaced by Cable…..thats a damning event.
anyone know how Seattle did with our retreads?
hahahahahahahahaha!
This organization hires the biggest morons I have EVER seen. WOW….
If It's On Wikipedia It Must be True!!!
Al Saunders (born February 1, 1947) an American football coach, currently employed by the Oakland Raiders.
Is there still hope???
I can’t find a thing that says for sure one way or the other if Al Saunders is staying on or going…Maybe he get’s promoted to “Assistant HC-O” while Napp takes a nap as our new “OC”???
Stranger things have happened and nothing appears as it should be at the moment…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Let's cut to the chase
We have some notions of winning a Super Bowl eventually, yes? For that we’re going to need good coaches, yes? Can we honestly say we’ve went out and hired the best coaches we could?
Love this Blog
This discussion has been great. Good analysis, good discussion. Love the nation.
Lets hope this dennis guy proves me wrong (wouldn’t be the first) and wins it all. But I agree PantyRaider, these moves stink of cost cutting.
Just my opinion but I think Dennis is being true to his word and searching for a coaching staff
that share his same vision, that he feels comfortable with and have great communication skills, he wants coaches who excel at “teaching” the fundamentals to our players, so he’s not exactly searching for “big names”
Look at the Patriots, sure they have Bill Belichick but other than him can you name someone
on their coaching staff? It’s not a coaches popularity contest, its about finding the right people to do their jobs. I’ll save judgement until the real games are played in 2012.
But...
To assume that because ol billy did it, means that Dennis can, is dangerous. If Dennis’ philosophy is attention to detail, then I cannot see how Knapp fits that. Knapp never adjusted his philosphy to adapt to the walrus. Never adjusted his philosophy for Fargus, or for the blocking scheme. These are the things that make me think his attention to detail is not great. I feel that he just thought the team would adjust to him….which worries me.
He did all those things you mentioned he didn't do, dont tell me we were a pass happy team
last time he was around, I actually feel bad for the guy, he had JaMarcus as his QB. His last 2 games vs the Texans and Bucs were very good, and we moved the ball better early in 2007 with McCown n Culpepper. We have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball now, lets see how he does first before we push the panic button.
For one he tried to make it easy for Fatass, more handoffs, screens, quick passes down
the middle to Zach Miller. But there’s so much you can do when your QB is a turnover machine. McFadden was just a rookie back then who got injured early in the season and never regained his form. Our WRs sucked, he had very little to work with really, i find it really unfair to judge him based on those 2 years when the talent on the O was inferior than what we have now.
+1 RR
You are absolutely right and I wonder if anyone here would have thought that Belechik was a good hire to be HC here had he just been fired from Cleveland.
Fact is short of Chucky coming back and bringing in a team this board is going to be very negative. I for one think its more than time for a change. More than time for a great D to be rebuilt here. Forget westcoast.Run the Damn ball then throw for the big one. Time of possession and defense. tire the other team lean on them impose our will . DOMINATE all phases not just 1 a return to the 83 raiders who could score from any facet of the game.
Time to forget all the talent that wont play and back the guys that hang it all out there on every play. We dont need any primadonna players or primadonna coaches. I will take nonames who can get it done. I have waited since 83 for another Lombardi one or 2 more seasons where we inprove will be ok. I hope we improve but until we see what happens I refuse to believe we will regress. Just getting rid of the penalties and the stupid 4th down calls will do that.
The other thing is if Al Davis was meddling in the plays like everyone said/says then we never saw a Gregg Knapp offense did we? We saw a hybrid.time will tell But frankly I like that a HC is building his own staff here for a change .I believe a cohesive staff will bring out a cohesive team foster a team environment and in the long term stand us in good stead.While it may not be the Victoria secret supermodel of coach hiring it may turn out to be the hot babysitter.
by Canadian Raider on Feb 1, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
We should be excited for this is the first time that our HC gets to assemble his staff.
“I believe a cohesive staff will bring out a cohesive team foster a team environment and in the long term stand us in good stead.”
Totally agree.
knapp hardly even called plays while his grand tenure with us
kiffin held that duty until his firing and after pumkin head took over and the saints beat our asses after the bye, cable thought he was better suited since he was the big play caller for the bruins back during the fuckin reagan admin. this guy had success in s.f., atl., and im pretty sure the hand he has had in houstons passing game is pretty fuckin explosive last time i checked, when shaub was healthy. yeah he also coached up a 5th round rook to play well enough to win a few and a playoff game not to mention a chancce in balt. if hes a west coast O guy, whatever, thsts the last time we were any good anyway is when gruden ran that style. i just want a defense for once!!!!!!! the offense has enough talent to put up enough points to be more than competetive!
He was a QB coach...not OC. There is a big difference.
by qwazilla on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Knapp is a very suspect play caller
his success = under offensive-minded head coaches (Mariucci/Kubiak)
his failure = under defensive-minded head coach (Mora Jr.)
You said his hand in the passing game...which leads one to believe whole offense
How you can have a pssing game with just a QB i have no idea. PPL have to block, run routes, catch…His hand in that was helping one guy understand his role.
Sorry snake
Not trying to be a dick. I’m just disappointed. Not panicking though because the Raiders are a team that when they win it in a very unorthodox manner. Which could be with coaches that many (me included) have written off.
every coach on the offensive side of the ball have their hands involved one way or another
if i were to say the way he ran the offense and dialing up plays to showcase shaub and his receivers may lead one to believe otherwise. but what he did as the qb coach to get his guys ready for the oc’s game plan was pretty shittin good. im not panicking either, actually glad to have some talent on both sides of the ball and a g.m., a rookie h.c., and an o.c. that do have winning in their pedigrees and resumes. now its a waiting game i guess…..tick tock
I don't think a Allen/Knapp < Hue Jack/Saunders ticket is going to win the Oakland primary!!
Every man for himself...
The Way Is Blocked...You Shall Not Interview!!!
Raiders | Denied permission to interview Joe DeCamillis
Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:10:41 -0800
The Oakland Raiders have been denied permission to interview Dallas Cowboys special teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis for their assistant head coaching position.
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl/oakland-raiders#ixzz1l9w2xU5x
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It's Official @ Raiders.com
Dennis Allen
Head Coach
Greg KnappOffensive Coordinator
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The Way Is Blocked!!!
Allen continues his search for a defensive coordinator, with Greg Manusky moving to the forefront now that the New Orleans Saints denied the Raiders permission to speak with defensive line coach Bill Johnson.
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Knapp hired by Raiders as offensive coordinator
"I think it’s a great opportunity for him," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said on Wednesday. "Obviously, you don’t like losing coaches. But Greg’s been a coordinator in this league before and been successful, and he’s trying to make his way back to that opportunity and a chance to be a head coach, so we’re very happy for him. It’s a great opportunity for him. At the same time, we hate to lose him. He did a tremendous job for us, and we wish him the best."
Knapp received high praise from Kubiak this season for his work with rookie quarterback T.J. Yates after season-ending injuries to Matt Schaub and Matt Leinart. Yates started the final five games of the regular season and led the Texans to the Divisional Round of the playoffs.
Knapp and offensive coordinator Rick Dennison spent countless hours meeting with Yates and veteran backups Jake Delhomme and Jeff Garcia late in the season. The Texans used four different quarterbacks and had six on the roster in 2011.
"I’ve been in this league a long time," Kubiak said. "I’ve never seen that happen. I’ve been down to my backup a couple times and that’s tough enough in this league, and to get down to our third who was a fifth-round pick, young rookie, it’s extremely difficult.
"For us to still go as far as we did and win a playoff game have an excellent chance to win a second one, it just says a lot about the job Rico (Dennison) did, Knapp did, with the young man throughout the course of the year, and the job that our team did of lifting him up and playing well around him."
In addition to his quarterback coach duties, Knapp played a significant role in the Texans’ game-planning process with Kubiak and Dennison.
"We kind of all work together as we game plan," Kubiak said. "Knapp’s ear is through the quarterback. When you’re sitting there with Matt (Schaub) every day, you know the things that Matt likes, and he’s a guy that has to get those quarterbacks ready to play. He’s a guy relaying plays to them in their helmets on gameday for me, so it’s a big, big task; it’s going to be a tough guy to replace."
Kubiak said he’s "talking to a few guys" who could take over for Knapp but that the Texans probably won’t do anything until next week.
"I’m looking for the same type of guy," Kubiak said. "I’m looking for somebody that could help me from a game-plan standpoint, somebody that has some background from a play-caller, coordinator, those type of things, and then yet, just somebody that I know will fit with Matt Schaub. The number one thing I want to do is make sure I bring in a guy that will fit with Matt very quickly in the meeting room and we can get started on next season."
"Tebowphobe"!!!
I have known Greg Knapp personally since he was starting QB for Bob Mattos at Sac State...
After graduating he stayed on at Sac State as a Graduate Assistant then position Coach for Mike Clemons.. Greg Knapp has always been a smart guy, however, he may be wrong for this position. I do believe he is a more than capable coordinator, however, he will need to change his game to be successful with the Raiders. The plus here is he is coming off a successful season in Houston. Greg knows he is going to need to bring it to keep his job here. Look Greg Knapp started with the Raiders, he was a training camp QB for them for 2 or 3 seasons. He is our guy now and we need to hope he can put this offense together. With that said…Go Raiders!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Feb 1, 2012 2:16 PM PST reply actions
The Raiders have Carson Palmer and he has the arm strength and savvy to get the ball down the field..
Greg is a West Coast Offense guy, he will need to disguise plays to open things up downfield, we have the speed and the arm to be successful going downfield verses sticking with the shorter plays to spring for RACS….
by Rodney Sacramento on Feb 1, 2012 3:30 PM PST reply actions
I can imagine whats going on through Greg's mind in this pic:
“Man, you both suck, cant we get a real NFL QB around here?”
better question, is that camera guy filming the plays to show the other team????
holy crap he is about to push Tui out of the way!
dumbest guy in the picture????
the person who bought the white #2 jersey in the top left side! hahahahahahahah! BURN!
Greg: "Pay attention Jamarcus, here it goes"
Greg: “You gotta throw the ball at the people running around wearing black jerseys!”
“On the field Jamarcus, not on the sidelines, on THE FIELD!”
Jamarcus: “Whoa whoa slow down coach, i cant understand a word you’re saying!”
Greg: "Ok Jamarcus here is the next play were running"
Jamarcus: “Hey coach let me see that menu your holding”
Greg: “Damnit Jamarcus for the 100th time this is the play sheet not the menu!!!!”
Jamarcus: “Well coach the waiter is standing behind us waiting for the order”
Too Funny
Now every time I see a OC holding the play sheet I’ll start laughing about the menu. Thanks I think we all needed a little humor.
"Committed To Excellence" Mostly just "Committed" though
by GoldCityRaider on Feb 1, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Channing Crowder (former Dolphins LB) is planning a comeback (sat out 2011 season)
You guys think he would be a good fit for us? He’s only 28
"OL" In Transition Just When it Was Good!!!
Raiders | Frank Pollack hired
Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:44:17 -0800
The Oakland Raiders hired Frank Pollack as their new offensive line coach Wednesday, Feb. 1, according to a source. Pollack was previously with the Houston Texans, and he’ll replace former coach Bob Wylie.
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl/oakland-raiders#ixzz1lC3UWbKZ
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looking like we'll be going predominantly ZBS again
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"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
new system I guess. I'm with you, but it's a crapshoot with a new regime
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
lets be honest
In the second half of the season our run blocking was shit. And in the first half we had dmc making it look good.
If you have good players you can run any scheme. Mario henderson ain’t here anymore.
by lchristmas on Feb 1, 2012 9:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
true that
last year was the change from the ZBS, and it did not go so well. Going back to the ZBS is good for the running game, but bad for pocket passers such as Palmer in that the ZBS requires smaller linemen which are often over power in pass protection. Campbell is better suited for the ZBS QB in my opinion
Fassel replacement hired; Saunders on the move
Allen hired Steve Hoffman as the special teams coordinator today. That fills the vacancy created by the departure of John Fassel to the St. Louis Rams.
In other news, Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders has interviewed with the Kansas City Chiefs for their offensive coordinator opening. That indicates that Allen has no intention of retaining Saunders in any capacity — he already hired Greg Knapp to be the offensive coordinator — or Saunders isn’t interested in coming back in a lesser role than the one he filled in 2011.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
THIS IS A BAD MOVE
This team is just running from a winning season as fast as it can. Hey I got an idea for the front office, trade Jano, and Lechler too, that would make about as much sense as these moves
Wisniewski retained on Allen’s staff
Not sure how the responsibilities will break down with offensive line hire Frank Pollack, but the Raiders have retained the services of assistant line coach Steve Wisniewski.
Both Pollack and Allen were assistant line coaches last season, Pollack under John Benton and Wisniewski under Bob Wylie.
Pollack was a tackle as an NFL player, Wisniewski a guard. Haven’t heard whether they’ll be co-line coaches or if there will be a line coach and an assistant.
The Raiders had co-line coaches one time in 2006 under Art Shell and it was a disaster, with Irv Eatman and Jackie Slater essentially taking their cue from Shell.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
reggie's and allens idea to have it placed here.
its hilarious!
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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 1, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
damn
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/39481/report-al-saunders-talks-to-chiefs back to zone blocking.
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 PM PST reply actions
OMG whats up with the this annoying "Delocated" ad??
It’s now on the background!! Is there any way I can move it out the way??
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin
I use Firefox with AdBlocker and i don't see it
or commercials when watching online games (on firstrow, or adthenet)
I know this is no place to vent on personal stuff
But just broke up with my GF of 3 years, i feel like crap, puts all these coaching hires in perspective….man this fucking sucks lol i guess i really loved her, sorry to write this here just needed to tell someone
Feel better dude
Shit like that is never easy.
John
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by Ionnes on Feb 2, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
there is lide outside of football
And silver n black…DEF hope youll bounce back. Just give yourself time to heal, one day at a time…we are raidernation and we stick together!!!
by aToomb Raider on Feb 2, 2012 10:47 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I guess I do gotta take it a day at a time, I really feel like shit right now, thank you for the kind words my brother
Thats what I love about the Raider Nation you guys are like my family, again thanks…
sorry to hear that
but you gotta remember everything happens for a reason. Its cliche but either she was not the right one for you or you guys will work everything out and be fine. Use this time to reflect and see why you guys broke up and if its worth patching up and if it is what changes can be made to get her back and be on the right track. I wish I could say the same for these coaching decisions lol
Lol I know, thanks a lot for the support bro, she made it clear its pretty much over and i agree and it hurts
and it definitely sucks, but life’s gotta move on i guess. I gotta admit that if the Pats lose the SB i’ll feel MUCH better lol. Thanks again bro i appreciate it.
Sorry man!
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
if there under contract, teams can deny anyone who is interested .
al saunders has permission to talk to the chiefs by the raiders ~ because allen doesnt want him here.
adam schfner reported that manusky is interviewing with the colts as a dc.. doeas anyone know what happened to winston moss and maybe hire him as a dc?
by sports with steve on Feb 2, 2012 10:02 AM PST reply actions
Rod Woodson for DC?
Now that would be an interesting promotion, he’s a big fan of Dick LeBeau, he knows a thing or two about his schemes and he certainly knows defenses, rookie DC but who knows? He may be good at it
I'd be happy enough if Woodson stays with us
He didn’t exactly have extraordinary talent to work with. Mostly I’m just glad that the Colts hired Manusky, because I would not have been excited to have that guy as our DC.
by Chris2814 on Feb 2, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I read it somewhere that made it sound official
but maybe it’s not completely official yet. But it certainly made it sound like Manusky was off the Raiders’ list.
Ed Donatell seems to be in the mix for our DC vacancy
Currently the secondary coach with the whiners, he served 3 years as DC in ATL under Jim Mora Jr and before that he was the DC for the Fudge Packers
The Niners secondary is serious business
Would be better than Manusky and certainly Bresnahan!
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
whitt from green bay is meeting with allen tomorrow. manusky is out and looks to be hired for the colts.
maybe a lil packer coaches might develop. curious about winston moss not being the dc.
by sports with steve on Feb 2, 2012 11:08 AM PST reply actions
Ed Donatell's defenses
Green Bay (2000-2003)
2000: 15th ranked defense, 19th pass, 8th run
2001: 12th ranked defense, 15th pass, 16th run
2002: 12th ranked defense, 3rd pass, 21st run
2003: 17th ranked defense, 23rd pass, 10th run
Atlanta (2004-2006)
2004: 14th ranked defense, 22nd pass, 8th run
2005: 22nd ranked defense, 14th pass, 26st run
2006: 22nd ranked defense, 29th pass, 9th run
Meh not impressive at all but might work out with the talent we have here.
And... Donatell's defense
Washington Huskies (2008, DC)
Their defense got DESTROYED by every offense in the Pac-10.
He was let go after the WINLESS 2008 season.
Damn thats not good lol
Scary thing here is Dennis Allen might hire him since they were in the Falcons coaching staff together
Even scarier?
That no matter who we hire is almost guaranteed to vastly improve our defense. Because that’s how bad Chucky B was. We’ve practically got nowhere to go but up, so it might be hard to tell just how good a job our new guy is doing until a few years down the road.
lets interview some def coaches from Cincy and Baltimore
so we can have some of Hue Jackson’s friends on board.
Didn't...
John Gruden run a version of the west coast offense when he was here. Because if he did, which i believe he did, then the Raiders last winning season was as a west coast offense. Also I believe that we do have an offense that can successfully run the WCO.
One Point I Want To Make: Injuries Struck Deep Into Our "D"...But "SuckChuck" Still Failed!!!
Starters Out: Games Started…
“MLB” Rolando McClain 14 starts
“CB” Stanford Routt 15 starts
“DE” Lamarr Houston 12 starts
“FS” Michael Huff 11 starts
“DT” Richard Seymour* 15 starts
“CB” Chris Johnson 3 starts
“DE” Matt Shaughnessy 3 starts
Back Ups Out: Games Played…
“DT” John Henderson 13 games
“SS” Michael Mitchell 12 games
“DE” Jarvis Moss 13 games
“CB” Demarcus Van Dyke 12 games
“CB” Chimdi Chekwa 4 games
“DE” Trevor Scott 14 games
“FS” Eugene, Hiram 0 games
“LB” Goethel, Travis 0 games
“LB” Ricky Brown “IR”
Players added as Starters:
“S” Matt Giordano 8 starts
“CB” Lito Sheppard 7 starts
“LB” Aaron Curry 11 starts
“S” Jerome Boyd 1 start
Joe Porter 1 start
Added as Back-ups
“DB” Bryan McCann 7 games
“S” Nedu Ndukwe 1 game
“CB” Sierling Moore
“DB” Ron Parker
And I don’t care how many times someone wants to pimp these injured plays as not being very good…They were our starters and thus the best we had…It hurt us to lose them for “Significant” games while having to start rookies or inferior back-ups in their place…
That’s 39 games lost by our starters…
That’s 60+ games lost by our Back-Ups…
Now that’s “Significant” time lost!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
PantyRaider great point....Injuries played a significant roll in our teams performance...
However, defensively we had scheme lapses, and a failure to make adjustments. Some was talent, however a lot was coaching. Next season is going to be rough for the Raiders….
by Rodney Sacramento on Feb 4, 2012 6:15 AM PST up reply actions
I Fear Likewise..."D" Should Be Vastly Improved But The "O" With That Schedule???
I like the “STC” addition…It’s a plus…Keeping our "RB"s Coach is also…The new trainers are going to be great for us…BUT!!
Knapp is a huge ?….And while I’m happy we kept “Wiz” as “OL”-Assistant losing our “OL” coach could be devastating???
Al Saunders may yet still work for the team which would be a plus also??
"Tebowphobe"!!!
“Sterling Moore on diff. between oakland and NE: shakes head, “much more … businesslike here”
"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 2, 2012 8:32 PM PST reply actions
Could have been Al, I suppose.
Didn’t he make most of the roster decisions? Though I don’t remember when Moore was scooped up by NE. Either way, I think most of us were pretty upset about it when it happened. Not sure why a bunch of internet message boarders could see the kid had more talent than some of the guys who made the team and the coaching staff couldn’t.
wasn't right away. He remained on our practice squad for a couple of weeks
and it was due to some struggles NE was having in the secondary, that arguably has yet to be fixed. Moore did a lot to help the situation tho.
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.
Let The Controversy Begin!!!...
Peyton Manning’s doctor gives QB clearance to play
INDIANAPOLIS (AP)—Peyton Manning has received the OK from his surgeon to start taking hits again.
A spokesman for Dr. Robert Watkins said in a one-paragraph email sent late Thursday night that the Colts’ star was cleared to play.
ESPN, citing unidentified sources, first reported Manning had been cleared.
The Colts contend that is nothing new because Manning was cleared to practice in December, a move that would have also allowed the quarterback to start playing again. But it backs up Manning’s contention from earlier this week that his recovery from September neck surgery is on schedule.
So what would you take with the 1st pick and Payton???
A)…You win the Luck sweepstakes as you take your lumps while he adapts to the NFL level…
Possible huge dividends in the long term??
B)…You stay with Payton and hope he can make it threw another season or 2…
Short term may or may not pay huge dividends but long term probability is very short!!!
Prolley can’t pay both but your on the hook for that huge $$$$ Cap hit…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
tough choice
That is a pickle. I dig loyalty, and showing peyton loyalty seems the obvious choice. But damn thats a big cap hit (plus bonus) and Luck is not going to be cheap. They aleady have issues with money, and being able to balance the team. Personally I would keep Manning, and pick up luck and pray that he is the next manning. (but then i am a softy and would love to see manning retirre a colt)
If those are the only two choices
Then I don’t think it’s tough at all. You draft Luck. Peyton only has a little bit of time left, and coming back from such a major surgery might actually be a bigger gamble than going with a rookie (especially a rookie as good as Luck). You’ve got to go with the future. So not tough, but certainly an unfortunate decision. Of course, if there’s anyway they can have both for the next season, I think that would be ideal.
Then again, I really think Manning should lay it down and go immediately into coaching.
if only one
If you can only take one, reluctantly i would agree with gambling on luck. But its a sad choice. I mean, who were the colts before manning?
i have too much free time....but,
Remember when St. Louis gave up on Warner, and then they disapeared. AZ picks him up and go to the big show.
true but if peyton comes back it will be for 3 years max
i rather gamble a qb of 3 years for a qb for the next 10 years. Luck is a gamble but he looks like the real deal. Peyton is an even bigger gamble say he comes back and gets nailed. He would be forced to retire
question
Does ZBS mean less screans? Screan plays always give me a near heart attack. When they work it is awsome, but scary. Just curious.
We didn't seem to do many screens this year
Which I thought was a mistake. As for your question, I can’t say I know what the difference between Power and Zone blocking. So I’d also be curious to know more about potential differences.
How about Clancy Pendergast, Cal's DC?
Steve Hoffman just got fired by the Chiefs, then immediately hired by the Raiders.
Pendergast also was fired by the Chiefs a couple years ago. Accepted the Raiders’ job(DB) and then bolted for Cal’s job(DC).
Nobody asked the question
Does Tom Cable’s decision to take away the play-calling from Knapp make him a moron, or is Knapp an even bigger moron, and thus needed to be pushed into the background?
Knapp had some reasonably successful stints as OC for other teams before coming here the first time
I think it was probably that Russell was too big an idiot (and too terrible a player in general) to pick up the offense, and Davis, who had gone all in with Russell (still claiming he was a GREAT QB) blamed Knapp for not somehow transforming that loser into what his raw talent suggested he had the potential to be.
That’s my best guess, at least.
Chiefs hire former Dolphins assistant Daboll to run offense
Al Saunders Fails to get that job…Will he now stay on with the Raiders???
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Some of ye may not like bwilliamson but i like his opinion on this one
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/39400/mailbag-allen-could-be-great-in-oakland i hope hes great cuz the hire didnt excite me at first (can’t BUY into the hype just yet though).
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"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique
by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 4, 2012 12:30 AM PST reply actions
.I hope Jr Has In In Him To Kick Some NFL Ass!!!
With Al Davis out of the picture it appears that Goodell thinks he’s a bully!!!
Los Angeles suddenly long-shot option for Raiders
By Steve Corkran
Raiders owner Mark Davis said Jan. 10 that he already has received offers from investors who want to build stadiums in the Los Angeles area about the prospect of the Raiders relocating to the part of the state they left after the 1994 season.
Davis declined to go into specifics. However, he made it abundantly clear that Los Angeles remains a viable option as long as the Raiders don’t have a better option than the Oakland Coliseum in its current state.
"Los Angeles is a possibility," Davis said. "Wherever’s a possibility. We need a stadium."
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell splahsed a tub of cold water on the Raiders, or any other NFL team, moving to Los Angeles by saying, "We want to keep our teams where they are."
Further, Goodell said if the NFL returns to Los Angeles at some point, it likely would be with one or two expansion teams.
The Raiders lease extension with the Coliseum expires after the 2013 season. At this point, their options are: sign an extension or find a way to get a new stadium built.
The 49ers moved closer to getting their new stadium by receiving a $200 million loan from the NFL, with no language providing the 49ers be joint tenants with the Raiders.
Not that that matters anyway. The 49ers and Raiders want their own stadiums. Until now, Los Angeles seemed like the Raiders’ best option.
"There’s offers on the table, but I wouldn’t talk about them," Davis said of Los Angeles. "If there was an offer that we liked, we would’ve taken it. Let me put it that way. And there’s not."
The clock is ticking.
"Tebowphobe"!!!
Raiders Get At Least One Primetime Night Game:
Goodell: All teams to go prime time in new Thursday night slate
“Thursday Night Football” games will be played from Weeks 2 to 15 next season, increasing the number of contests broadcast on NFL Network from eight to 13.
“This will result in every team appearing in Thursday football games and every team having a prime-time appearance throughout the season,”
"Tebowphobe"!!!
ex-Bengali - more inside comments on CP3 & ochostinko,,,
Local sports radio was broadcasting from SB’s Radio Row and one guest was Dave Lapham, former Bengali & longtime Color Analyst for Bengals radio network.
The topic of Chad Ostinko came up and any impact he will have on game. Lap was VERY clear that if receivers do NOT run accurate routes in NE, Brady gets them off the field – he has that power in NE. That has been 85’s problem for pats this year and why he has only 15 receptions.
Lap also reiterated when Chad devolved into a diva, Carson would continue to be frustrated by the inaccurate routes resulting in increasing INTs. But 85 was protected by both the owner/GM and head coach.
I really hope CP3 and the receivers get on same page during OTAs and TC. A timing passer like CP and Brady depend on accurate routes.
On the new OC, any new insights if he will open up the offense like the Saints or will play it safe?
Ocho was a huge problem in the Nati
even for the Bengalis..whatever the hell that means…but you guys need a QB…You guys have some great talent at WR and if Mcfadden can get healthy…this guy is a beast….Carson is not the answer….Just like I have been telling your fanbase,,,,he will do just enough to almost win…and lose in the end…He may have a year or two but it is time to build the franchise around a young winner…YOU GUYS DESERVE IT…I used to love the Raiders….and I know its tough to start over again after Jamarcus…but its time to restore Raider Nation……bengals fan perspective
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by ticalcaldwell on Feb 4, 2012 5:39 AM PST up reply actions
I Like "CP3" -n- I Love Pryor Waiting -n- Learning!!!
Our problem was with the “D”….We finished the season in the top 10 as an “O” despite all those injuries…That’s huge!!!…
But now our “D” should improve while our “O” because very suspect with the addition of Knapp…It won’t be "CP3"s fault…
"Tebowphobe"!!!
At least the delocated ad is not on the background anymore..
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin
mine is still up there and wont go away
i get a new ad every once in a while but if the page refreshes mr delocated is showing me his crotch again
damn.. sorry bro lol
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin
by ClipperBEAST on Feb 4, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Hahaha i dont see it on my Ipad but i do get it on my laptop
Im using the ipad right now so everythings cool haha
Newss!
Espn’s Adam Schefter is reporting that the Raiders are interested in Stanford’s Linebacker Coach as our Defensive Coordinater
by 2Raiders0 on Feb 4, 2012 2:36 PM PST via mobile reply actions
By the way
Another year of Tim Brown not making the Hall of Fame. He didn’t even make their top 10 finalists. The NFL Hall of Fame continues to be a joke.
And neither Andre Reed or Cris Carter made the HoF either
Though they both made the top 10. Which means it’s highly unlikely Tim Brown will make it in next year either because Carter and Reed are obviously higher ranked in the HoF committees minds, and they still couldn’t make it in. It could be a long time before poor old Tim Brown gets what he deserves…
I just saw that! Might be a solid option...
Al Davis the Greatest Raider of all times... You will live forever in the hearts of true Raider fans...RIP
John Dickinson (who?) is tweeting that Jason Tarver has agreed to
become our next DC….don’t really know if its true but just wanted u guys to know
Yup!!...He's playing you like a worn out fiddle!!!!...It's all about that $$$$$ Game -n- Fame!!!
“It could be something in my future,” Tebow said. “It’s something I’ll have to think about and if I pray about, you know, I have no idea right now. But possibly.”
Tebow’s consideration makes complete sense. After all, Tebow makes no bones about his Evangelical Christian faith and according pro-life stance on abortion, something he feels so strongly about that he starred in a Super Bowl ad about the issue in 2010. Tebow is already a darling among the Republican party, too, with more than one GOP presidential candidate courting him for an endorsement.
So, yeah, all things considered, why wouldn’t politics seem like a good fit for Tebow?
Well one thing for damn sure….He’ll never get my vote nor any other Republican!!!…
Come to think of it few Demo’s even get my support!!!
"Tebowphobe"!!!
lol. you said a mouthful bro!
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.

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