Oakland Raiders Thoughts: Is It Time To Turn The Page On Hue Jackson?

This thing is really gaining momentum. Are people seriously contemplating this on the CHANCE that they bring in somebody better, especially when there isn’t real cause to fire Hue?

For the sake of continuity, I would prefer Hue. He made some bad calls, but the one thing he didn’t do was stop progress. I know that sounds crazy, but given everything that happened this season we were very fortunate to end 8-8. Chicago collapsed when their players went down, we marched on. We got beat bad several times. Most blamed either the D, Panda, poor play calls, injuries, Carson, or the lack of DMC. A lot of people hated his play calling during certain situations (notably the decision to not go for 2 against Detroit). Many hated the 3rd and 3 bomb as well. Tons of people hated the Carson Palmer trade and tons hated the fact that he never told us that DMC was not coming back. We all hated the "We will get better speech’ and the “I’m going to fix it” speech in regards to the penalties. All in all, he finished 8-8 in his first head coaching job in the NFL. The way the Nation talks about him you would think he was Art Shell or Norv Turner. He seems to have an ego, but I love his passion. He is one of the few coaches of the last decade that seems to truly believe in the manta, “commitment to excellence.” We were certainly not excellent this year, but at times we were. Few teams today can survive what this team went through this year. Rodgers goes down in Green Bay chaos would follow. Flynn would hold down the fort, but no championship. Brady goes down, um, who is their back up? Better yet, if Peyton Manning goes down………oh wait he did and they went 2-14. Point is, starting QB injuries are tough to overcome. JC isn’t nearly as good as any of those guys but he was good for the offense. It was a major blow to the team and I believe it cost us the season. I really like Carson Palmer and am excited about next year, but it took too many games to get him up to speed. And he didn’t have our best player DMC to ease his transition. RB’s go down and without a proper back up you suck again. Luckily Bush did what he could, but it just wasn’t the same thing. Injuries were not Hue’s fault. Motivating the defense may have been his fault. I can’t defend that because it was his job. But the DC needs to take blame on this just as much as Hue. Also, many don’t want to hear this but, we aren’t that talented out there on the D side. Simply put, we did the best with what we had. In the end, I don’t think Hue did a terrible job for a first timer. He nearly saved the season with his moves and got us Curry. Give the man some time people, we gave Turner time and Kiffen too. Hell, even Cable and Callahan. In what world was Hue worst then them? At least 1 more year I say.

I was as big of a Hue Jackson supporter as anyone before and immediately after Al passed, I thought he handled the immediate fall out from Al’s passing absolutely beautifully but as time wore on I really felt like Hue overstepped the mark and became very full of himself and certainly enjoyed his new found power to the fullest which I found extremely disrespectful to Mr Davis memory.
It was like a "I’m the new king in town’ attitude at many times which especially as an ardent supporter or Mr Davis who was and still is devastated by his loss made me very angry and resentful towards the man that had ceased to be ‘Hue’ and had become ‘Hubris’. The other major concern is the information that came right after the season that seemed to suggest that players had tuned him out.

Add to this there were times where the team was completely unprepared to play important games and the fact that he proved to be completely incapable of overseeing an entire team with the issues on defence that were never addressed and the fact he failed to even really put a dent in the penalty problem I think there can be a pretty string case put forward to move on from Hue.

ON the other hand I can certainly understand that he was thrust in an almost impossible position with Al’s passing and perhaps some of the ‘Hubris’ was him trying to cope with the immense pressure of the situation and obviously injuries certainly played a major role in the season especially with Jason going down and starting the dominos effect resulting in Hue string arming the franchise to make an arguably short sighted trade.

Whatever happens I have full faith in Reggie McKenzie and whatever way he decides to go I wil roll with there is certainly a very good case to be made for Hue to have another year without the outside issues that plagued the season this year and I probably agree that it would be fair to give him another chance despite what in reality was a failure on many fronts on 2011 regardless of the circumstances.

I am wiling to roll with Hue for now and give him a chance to run the team next year in a hopefully more stable situation and dont see the point in moving in Hue fo another rookie however I still maintain that if Chucky is interested he must be brought back immediately.

It isgood to reign in Hue’s overall control with a GM, but it would be madness to get rid of him at this point. He made some mistakes, but he had a lot of injury to cope with and the defense let him down enromously.

Keep Hue

Hue stays…NOT even topic for consideration in my mind…Ya don’t thumb your nose at a top 10 “O” when enduring so much…Also our "ST"s were good…

So we didn’t have everything working the way it should…Was that ever to be expected?…Most of you pimped an 8-n-8 season anyway so what’s up with all the damn animosity now?…Lest you forget!!..

The bad:

Penalties…And just sense when has this NOT been an issue?…But now it’s all Hue’s fault?…And are we going to forget all those bad calls this season too and blame Hue for that when he made a damn good stand against that fucken crap??

Blown clock…Yes Hue made his mistakes there…Chock that up to a rookie but also to one who had way too much on his plate…

Lost points…Yes Hue left points on the field…But a few times he also scored points that weren’t there by gambling and going for that Fake Punt “TD”…..Than one fake also failed…Clock management again…

Going for the 1st dn via the bomb….Well it worked as often as it failed!!!…And every failure was wide open if the play was executed properly…Great calls by the gambler who puts the excitement back in the game and this made teams think about what they did and opened other things up for us as a result too so don’t ignore that aspect…

But to me the good far outweighs these inefficiencies and 2012 promises to be an improvement across the board…NOT a laps back into mediocrity…Palmer will be on the same page as his "WR"s and the timing will be there…Other weapons will no doubt be added and Moore/Wiz/Barkdale/“TJ”/Pryor will no longer be rookies…This team will come back healthy and Hue won’t have so much on his plate…The “O” will gain confidence form a “DC” that knows what he’s doing…

Damn!!!….My mug runith over because I see tremendously greater hope for 2012 than I do despair!!!

Hue Jackson does need to be more accountable than what he shouldered for this season. If you watched his post-game interviews after losses especially, he repeatedly mentions and badgers the press that “you guys can spin it how you want it” and “[I’m] not gonna make excuses”, when in fact that turned out to be an excuse in of itself by season’s end. Yes, Hue, we all watched the same game you did, and noticed that the defense collapsed in the final minutes. But where, Hue, are you going to go from here to rectify that for future games? Sure, we can cite the failings of Chuck Bresnahan as being the primary problem. But at the end of the day, Hue Jackson is still the head coach and both the players and coaching staff are liable to him. If Hue Jackson wants to retain his job in the coming years, he will certainly need to SHOW the corrections/improvements rather than TELL everyone he’s going to make changes. Players and fans alike want a head coach who is willing to make the necessary adjustments come hell or high water.

As a side note, the losses to Buffalo and Detroit were the most painful since they were the only two single digits losses we had, and both within the final minutes of a game the Raiders mostly dominated otherwise. It’s obvious now, but if the Raiders had held out in those games, we would have finished with a comfortable 10-6 record and would be in the Playoffs, and regardless if the Raiders turned out to be a one-and-done, I much rather have that situation rather than the one we are finding ourselves in now: contemplating if Hue Jackson needs to be replaced.

Generally speaking, I really do believe that, for the most part, we have a good variety of personnel to build a competitive team, we just lack a strong, interpersonal cohesion. I like Carson Palmer, but I got the feeling when watching the games that he is not fully invested with this team as he should be, especially at the price the Raiders paid for him. Sure, it’s anecdotal, but on nearly every three-and-out (particularly in close games), he didn’t seem as nearly upset as he should have been for either his or his teammates’ poor playing. The quarterback is effectively the co-leader/second leader no matter which way you look at it, and both his teammates and the fans are putting trust in him to step up when it is needed. But I didn’t see him take that role in any meaningful, sustained manner this season. While it’s great that apparently both Jackson and Palmer fully trust one another, that same trust needs to be extended into the organization as a whole if the Raiders want to be respected (and hopefully feared) in this league.

As a corollary, I really think that since we have no serviceable secondary quarterback, Palmer is not pressured into bringing his best each game because even if he plays poorly, who else is going to replace him? All signs point to Jason Campbell leaving this postseason, and it is definitely not Kyle Boller since we traded for Palmer BECAUSE of our lack of trust in Boller. Again, I definitely believe Palmer can be the quarterback that the Raiders hang their hats on for the next few years, but just as with Hue Jackson, they need to guide this team stronger than they did this season. Let me also clarify that I strongly believe that players not dedicated to this team need to be shown the door as well. Yes, Hue Jackson said the same thing after the loss to San Diego, and hopefully it will be something that actually happens too.

In the grander scheme of things and the longer run, I think the front office will also need to address the direction of this team. In a league dominated by “big plays”, the old guard of balanced teams is coming to an end, if not already over. Look at the remaining teams in the current Playoffs: they either fall on the side of being primarily offensive (New England, Green Bay, New Orleans) or defensive (Baltimore, Houston, Denver, New York, San Francisco). That is probably obvious to most sports fans, but I don’t think the Raiders have established solid footing on where this team should be heading. I’m not suggesting the Raiders can’t break the mold either, but there is something to be said beyond simple personnel changes that the Raiders went from being a predominantly defensive team in the 2010 season to being a somewhat offensive team this season (although not without its anemic moments). Luckily the Raiders play in a weaker division and conference, so we have a year or two to adequately address this issue.

TL;DR: under most circumstances, don’t fire Hue Jackson, but this is in no way a free pass for him as a head coach. He and Palmer need to take more control of this team as it better determines what direction it is taking.

I will get him one more season and if the team does not make the play-offs, than time to cut him loose.

When you find yourself in a tough spot you focus on what you do best and it didn’t happen.
What does Hue supposedly do best? Design , implement and call plays that attack and defeat an opponent’s game plan through stealth and wise clock management. Didn’t happen. Oh , to be sure we saw some succesful trick plays and unexpected gadget plays but we saw some terrible ones too (SEE fake FG TOUCHDOWN called back by delay of game) . STOP! I can hear you already out there “Hue wasn’t on the field” Hue didn’t call the snap count". HUE DIDN’T WATCH THE CLOCK AND CALL A FUCKING TIMEOUT when he saw it was going to happen either did he? That’s a classic example of this team’s season and it starts with Coaching.
The inability to instill the drive and desire into this team for the San Diego game was the final straw for me. It goes against EVERYTHING Mr. Davis was about – “Just Win Baby”. Then after his rant to have the audacity to come out in Public and declare he wants to be part of the selection process is insane. Saint’s right , the team didn’t rally and follow him down the stretch and that’s why they are watching others go for the glory on their couches like the rest of us. Coaches are supposed to be LEADERS. Coaches are supposed to be able to TEACH things like DISCIPLINE to their players. Coaches manage clocks and develop SOLID game plans – and have an alternate when the opposition figures them out.
No , I don’t want to see Winston Moss as our head Coach. Like Saint , if Gruden or Cower were available I’d love to see Mark Davis pull the trigger. This is a business not a popularity contest. You put in place the people that will make you successful for years to come . I ,for one have graduated from 8-8 and am ready for the next level .
R.F.F.R.

I’m fairly on the fence about whether or not to keep Hue. Hue just seems to me to be a better OC than HC. He called great games as an OC last year but his play calling this year was not nearly as brilliant and that can either be attributed to his wearing of too many hats or perhaps the injuries. Regardless, the play calling was a little more lack luster this year and I would like to have the OC make the play calls and have the HC oversee it.

The HC is also responsible for overall effort of the team. I thought the effort was there for much of the early part of the season but when the team faced adversity…we typically crumbled and that’s on the HC to change and it never really did. In fact, the level of effort seemed to get worse as the season went on. I honestly feel as though the team played much harder for Cable than they did for Hue. That really says something to me. The penalty situation and the appearance of the team not being adequately prepared for big games is quite frankly unacceptable. Hue made some big promises at the first of the season and he hasn’t really came though on any of them.

Hue’s game management skills are quite poor. He’s been somewhat inconsistent with the challenge flag this year…most times making quick, decent challenges but other times hesitant and wasting them which I suppose many coaches go through. His ability to make in-game adjustments in order to stop the bleeding or change the momentum of the game was atrocious. He was out coached most of the season. His lack of understanding of when to go for a 2point conversion is unacceptable. It wasn’t so much that he went for one point there, it was that he wasn’t prepared to make the decision or even consider the 2 points at that point. A good HC always has the possibilities on the back of his mind.

While I don’t like changing coaches constantly, I do think Hue has done a mediocre job as HC this season. I tend to give him some credit because of the difficult situation with Al’s passing and the barrage of injuries. I do like the idea of McKenzie ushering in a new era for the Raiders and if that means a new HC then I am all for it. From now on it’s…

In Reggie I trust.

What kind of coach is Hue Jackson? He’s an offensive rookie head coach, that finished with an 8-8 record, that had injuries to his offense all season. I mean bad injuries. I believe, Jackson finally has the Raiders offense on the right track, for the first time since Gruden.

Ask yourself this? What kind of QB would Palmer be without Jackson, or how would he feel if Jackson was fired? Because Palmer ain’t going anywhere, after the Raiders mortgaged the farm on him. Palmer finally has Jackson’s playbook down with the speedy WR’s to execute it. I have a feeling the passing game will be even better next year. It wasn’t Hue’s fault that Mcfadden got injured.

How much fault should go to Jackson for the defense struggling? Because that was the problem. Well all know who brought the defensive players in and the defensive coaches, it wasn’t Jackson. It wasn’t Jackson fault that the Raiders over paid Routt and Huff and let Nnamdi walk. Nnamdi wasn’t even offered a contract. by AL Davis.

Bresnahan was an AL Davis puppet, nothing more and nothing less. Same as it always has been when it comes to Al running the Raiders defense the way he see’s fit. I can’t blame Hue for the Raiders defensive struggles, it wasn’t Hue’s defense.

The only thing Hue did when it comes to the defense, is bringing in Curry and Sheppard, which were two solid moves for an offensive mind coach mid season

Fire Hue, for what? For a defense he had no say in when the season began? The Raiders offensive system is working. Sure there was some questionable playing calling, but he’s a rookie head coach. There was some brilliant play calling as well. Raiders had more plays for 20 yards or more than any other team in the NFL. That’s all due to Hue Jackson, even with injuries to his offense.

No team went through what they did this season.

Rookie coach
Lockout
Legendary owner dies
Starting QB gets snapped off

I believe for the progress of the young guys there needs to be some commonality! clean up the defense and if Hue gags then he does.

it’s easier to burn Rome down than to build it although we have been burning it for years.

The Raiders have hired who they felt was the best man. So it’s his job to make these calls now,

Raiders | New GM mulling a coaching change

Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:06:59 -0800

New Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie is contemplating whether to keep head coach Hue Jackson, according to league sources. Agent Kennard McGuire, who represents both men, has denied that Jackson would be let go. McKenzie is contemplating whether he should bring in his own coach, despite the relationship with Jackson.

Source: ESPN – Chris Mortensen

Romeo Crennel has agreed to a three-year deal with the Chiefs, according to NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.

I think it’s simple…Hue stays…we have to see what he can do with
1. A hopefully good D cord
2. healthy team
3. full off season with Palmer
4. being able to just be a coach and not have to worry about everything else.

after next season if we don’t win the West or don’t make the playoffs…then we can talk about coaches….also don’t forget the schedule looks ruff…I do think the comments about Hue wanting more power are over blown…and I really think he was saying that in regards to the fuck’n D…If Hue could of fired this dude he prob. would of…

The Chargers will remain in San Diego for at least one more season.

On Monday, the team will formally announce they have no intention to exercise an out clause that would allow them to negotiate with other cites or move the team, according to U-T San Diego.

The Chargers’ Qualcomm Stadium lease doesn’t expire until 2020, but each year the team has a three-month window from February through April to explore new options. Chargers general counsel Mark Fabiani said the team’s decision to stay put in 2012 goes back to the Chargers’ goal to remain in San Diego and build a new stadium.

I believe that Hue needs to stay in Oakland for at least 2-3 more years. First off, the Raiders organization has had way too many coaching changes in the last ten years. Keeping Hue will allow stability to set in for the players. Hue revitalized the offense in the last two seasons and (I hate to be this guy) if injuries had not crept up and kept Ford, McFadden, and Moore out for periods of time, we aren’t having this conversation. Even on defense they had injuries that limited how good they could actually be. Chuck B. needs to go I feel. If the Raiders could hire Del Rio or Raheem Morris as D Coord. then that would be epic. They need a defensive coach to retool the talent that is there. Hiring McKenzie as GM was a great move, the first of many more to come I hope. But the one change the Raiders CAN’T make is firing Hue Jackson.

Hue obviously made some mistakes in his rookie season and some of that was due to the amount of “hats” he was wearing and some due to “rookie mistakes”. Even with those mistakes if the defense played even slightly mediocre those mistakes could have been mitigated, but they didn’t so those mistakes were all the more glaring.

Hue has the offense going in the right direction and has been pointed out here already it was the defense that let us down. Can’t really blame Hue for that given that he was never supposed to have to deal with the “D” that was Al’s baby as has always been the case.

It will be McKenzies job to get us a real DC that can get the defense going like the offense is, and if he can do that the Raiders will be a force to be reckoned with for awhile.

Hue also needs to be rewarded for taking on so much after Al’s passing (it was a lot to ask any head coach to do, much less a rookie head coach) and giving him a chance to finish what he’s started is a great way to do that and it’s the right thing to do.
The guy was signed for 3 years, I say we give him that time to implement his plan. Hopefully he’s learned from this years experience and can use it to propel us forward.

Hell, with a real defense we could have been at least 11-3 and it could have been us to beat Pitt. yesterday!

I’m not a great fan of HJ but I think that starting over (again!!) would be a mistake. The one guy who absolutely had to go has gone… Keep HJ, let’s see what he can do next season with a lighter burden on his back.

Replacing Hue Jackson is an absolutely ridiculous proposition, the Raiders scored plenty of points and he is an Offensive guy, so we need to shore up our Defense. With the talent we have on Offense and by the way talent is necessary to win football games, and the few pieces we need to shore up the Defense, Hue is in a great place. Look, the Raiders lost some tough games, and believe me, the players are more pissed than all of you on here combined, they all feel they should have been in the post season. However, at the end of the day, the Raiders are at home watching the games on T.V. Hue Jackson is the Head Coach, he has DONE NOTHING to lose his job and every player on that roster would agree.

On the Defensive side, I like both Winston Moss and Mike Nolan, both would serve the Raiders well, Mike Nolan is a 3-4 guru and Winston Moss comes with great schemes and adjustments to create havoc on opposing offenses. Those two are my favorites. From there McKenzie is a Raider himself, Hue isn’t going any where…Finally, I can see the Raiders kicking ass and taking names again. We are so very close now, Carson Palmer at QB the sky is the limit. Also, don’t forget the kid in the wings, Pryor…I am loving this. Don’t Panic!!! The Raiders are well on their way back!!!

“One of the things known about Davis was his fascination with death. He always wanted to see if there was a way he could beat death. Davis wasn’t crazy. He didn’t believe he could find a way to live forever. But he did believe there were other ways to beat death. You beat death by designing the plan for continuance after you’re gone, and then having loyal people carry it out.”

That was beautifully stated….Wish I had said that…

And yes so true even if some of these baboons refuse to see it or give Mr Davis the credit he obviously has earned and deserves…

Instead they beat the chest in fantasy dreams of losing our identity while going threw massive changes in our franchise…How narrow is the ignorant mind!!!

May I remind you:

(Because you obviously just don’t get it)

#1…Ownership is now Mark Davis…The son of one Al Davis who was groomed from infancy to one day fulfill this destiny by his father’s own hand…

#2…Amy Trask is still “CEO” and she did NOT just interview her new BOSS!!!…NO…She interviewed and hired our new “GM”…

#3…The term “GM” in the NFL has many different meanings and as yet we don’t know the defining elements of the term with respect to the Raiders….But you can bet the highest it will rank is at #3 and prolley much lower…

#4…The basic needs of this franchise with the loss of our “MGP” are in the area’s of “Football Operations” NOT “Front Office Management” where both Mark and Amy as well as many others currently reside…

#5…Reggie is a top Personnel Dept/Scouting Dept corporate officer…He is also a top football mind…Evaluator of talent…Former pro “LB” so has a very good “D” understanding as well…

So by my deductions he will be the new Raiders “Head of Football Operations” with the tile “GM”…Of the football team!!!…That’s NOT the entire Franchise!!!

There’s NO need for him to enter the front office wasting his precious time and energy evaluating every employee who sits at a desk!!!

Now I can only view this from my limited experience in life as an employee with some huge Construction corps….Bechtel/Research Cortrell/Babkok-n-Wilcox/Sterns-n-Rodgers/Morrison Knutesen/Leconby and others who have a central office which would translate to our Front Office and Field offices which would translate to our Football Operations…

Bechtel has it’s main office in AZ…I never worked for them there…It was up in Washington or Cali…They than had their field Personnel Dept/Engineering Dept/Quality Assurance-Quality Control Dept under whom I generally worked…These dept operated separately from their main office in AZ and yet still under the control of that main office…All payroll was from the main office as directed from the Field offices…

So I now expect to see something very similar to this with respect to the Raiders and Reggie as “GM”…He will NOT be the new “MGP” and unless Mark takes that type of interest we will never see one again…

So readjust some of your far fetched expectations for the “New Raider Way” according sound judgement and a reasoning mind…Those of you who actually have such a mental capacity…I am fully aware that some DON’T!!!

Shoving the team back onto the coaching carousel would be a terrible move and will kill any kind of momentum the team has. I think given a full season where Hue can just be a the HC and not have to wear so many hats, he will be successful. Hiring a good DC should be McKenzie’s main priority. Trimming the roster and signing FAs would be next. I’m tired of all the talk about Hue being arrogant, cocky, pompous etc. He is who he is and his personality isn’t for everyone. Lets not let personal preference cloud things re football and cause us to forget what this offense looked like before he came to the team in 2010. If Hue doesn’t perform next season and get us into the playoffs, then by all means tell him peace and thanks for the memories.

that said, some key personnel will need to be playing elsewhere and moves must be made to gain the team back for Hue. I don’t think he personally did enough to lose the locker room and instead did his best with what he had. He’ll learn how not to alienate as time moves on, but I think it showed us and Hue something about some individuals on the team, some of whom we already had our suspicions about. Without naming names at this point, I think McKenzie decided to keep Hue for now, but like us, he’ll be on close watch and will again have to demonstrate he’s organization first and sharing the vision our new GM will have for this team.

I think it’s idealistic to believe the Grudens and Cowhers of the world are even considering any coaching job at this point, much less the Raiders job. So, I, like the rest of the world and the Nation, will have to remain patient to see if Hue can answer the questions about him and his leadership at HC that remain completely unanswered after a year in position, albeit, during very tough circumstances. He’s no longer a victim of those, and many of us have already revoked that as an excuse for him, especially since we’ve seen the discipline and defensive problems long ago, and saw too little to be satisfied that it’s improving or will.

Putting him and this team in the same situation that drew the ire and criticism of national media and fans alike by not giving him a real shot is not the right thing to do right now, and I don’t see McKenzie going down that road right now either. Next season is a whole other story.

We’re building something special here, we could’ve been in the playoffs any of these past 2 seasons, in 2010 it was the 49ers, Cardinals and Jaguars games, 2011 it was the Bills, Broncos and Lions games, we wondered for years what it would be like if we didnt keep firing HCs and we had some stability in the organization, if Hue doesnt get fired we get an offense thats entering its 3rd season under the same system, an O that was 10th in yards last year and 9th this year, you all know our problems can be fixed with little changes to the team, (new DC, improved return game, a healthy DMC)….we cant start over from scratch, we’re very close, lets be patient and give Hue more time i know he’ll get us far given the opportunity he’s passionate about this team, he wants to succeed as much as we do….

Plain and simple. :P

Need some stable coaching for at least 2-3 years.

He needs to stay for one more year, most of the skill players were hurt throughout the year and the D had some injuries, ie Shaughnessy and Eugene. Look what happend last year when Hue came in. he turned what high schools call an offense into a pretty good one and with the talent thats here it could be the best after an offseason for plamer and if DMAC could stay healthy for a whole year. If a DC could come in and do what Hue did last year it could turn out to be a memorable season and with less pressure on him maybe the offense could be even better. I dont like some of the play calls like the first quater 4th down vs the lions and a few other 4th down calls and second half calls of running instead of trying to score more but I agree with his press conference after SD calling out the players, you didnt hear any of them stepping up taking the blame like they should have they just sat around and said oh well maybe next year. He deserves another chance and if they can get a DC that can get guys fired up I see them making a good run for the post season.

As a Broncos fan, I couldn’t believe you fired Cable when he went 6-0 in the AFC West, and I am similarly in disbelief/amusement that you are going to bail on another promising coach.

How can you contemplate firing some guy who probably would have been where Denver is now if Jason Campbell and McFadden hadn’t gotten hurt? I’m rooting for you to fire him and continue the dysfunction and lack of continuity that has characterized the Oakland Raiders this last decade.

We have talked this to death. Let’s all watch the press conference tomorrow and wait to see what McKenzie does.

Raiders | Could be interested in Winston Moss

Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:05:10 -0800

The Oakland Raiders could be interested in Green Bay Packers inside linebackers coach Winston Moss if they decide to fire head coach Hue Jackson.

Source: NFL Network – Jason La Canfora

And a remotely competent defensive coordinator.

in prepared. When Grudy was our coach, you knew he was prepared. He plotted, adjusted and competed as a coach. When he pulled the ship upright at 8-8, you knew we were going to the playoffs the next year, because we’d lose by a field goal or a sixer.

Hue doesn’t seem prepared, and he doesn’t seem to size up the teams we’re up against. Some team you gotta score a shitload against, and some teams you gotta grind em out.

When he essentially sat on Boss and Heyward-Bey for two games, was just one of the red flags that he isn’t up to it. You think Grudy woulda not used Boss and Bey? Boss would probably have another 250 yards if Grudy or even Cable were at the helm.

Then the red zone issues, the time and other management issues, and the lack of awareness is a little more than troubling.

We need a superbowl, and that requires a professional to get us motivated, disciplined, and consistent.

I just don’t see Hue as the guy to get us to the playoffs consistently, or to the superbowl.

And that’s what we nee.

Im with keeping Hue. lets stop giving on on coaches so quickly.

And maybe he won’t look as bad with a new DC

If we have a much worse year than last year, can him.

Until then, there is no reason to fire Hue. A lot happened this season that has already been mentioned above. With a healthy offense, and a better DC, I can see this team as a 10-12 win team. But that’s only potentially.

Since I’ve posted these exact words in another topic here you go.

Can anyone name one coach that had their GM and personel man die during the course of the season? You can take rookie and everything you want out of that. Has any coach suddenly had to be EVERYTHING to a team on a personel level?

Go ahead I’ll wait.

Or maybe I won’t. Nobody has ever had the responsibilities pile up like that on them in the NFL ever. For us to go 8-8 was a real miracle in itself.

Hue Jackson is the real deal. People talked alot of shit about Jimmy Johnson in his first couple of seasons saying identical things that they say about Hue now. Bad clock management, too aggressive, etc.

For McKenzie to go and boot Hue after this last season would be the epitome of bullshit. Yes he may want his own HC in the mix, but you have to be impressed with a man who had to literally carry a Nation on his shoulders.

The Raiders went 8-8 with a 29th ranked Defense, a rookie head coach/GM/Head of football operations, and half of our skill positions into the 4th and 5th string due to injuries. If that isn’t worthy of keeping your job I don’t know what is.

And on a side note, you’d think with some of these comments being thrown around that we were a perennial Super Bowl team or something. Relax on it people, this team still isn’t out of the dirt yet.

Can’t let Tebow win that one. Vote for them!

Hue stays.

Granted, the players liked the coach. Face it, you don’t want to be liked! You want action and no penalties! When Chucky was mad you knew it! Screw up and you are out of here! Chucky can bring that back to the house. We don’t need a no experience coash who can’t even manage a knowledge of the damn rules. Did you forget the dumb penalties because he did not know the rule book! Hue is just too, too likeable and not knowledgeable enough. At least hire a OC who knows the rule book to go along with a DC who knows how to manage a secondary made up of Al’s man on man players. Tampa 2 crap killed us and guess what, Hue picked him knowing full well he had a bad track record. If Hue could not get the guy he wanted, then don’t dump a DC who gave you a good result for a crapy one who cost us several games. At least now if we act fast, and don’t wait till the barn is empty, we have a chance to get a DC for a 3-4 team. Now new boss go out and get a OC before we are stuck with Hue 2012 as OC.

at least one more year. many people loved the hiring of hue when cable was fired, now many of them are calling for his head? i liked the hiring of hue and its best to give him one more year. no way in hell would cable have done a better job. hue was the man last offseason and everyone was talking about his energy especially when he raiders were 4-2 and 7-4. 2012 will be the test after the emotional 2011(as the article pointed out all the stuff that happened). he might have a big ego and be power hungry but mckenzie needs to put him in his place and let him coach. The defense was a HUGE reason for the disappointment. in the end hue needs to hold himself accountable and not only point he finger on his players. the players as well need to hold themselves accountable. hopefully mckenzie finds the right coaches and assistants for the defense

If even one stayed healthy, we would’ve easily won the west.

Hue Jackson had this team in it after losing our two best offensive players, and we all knew a few weeks into the year that the offense was going to have to carry us.

He deserves another year, and if it’s terrible then you can blow the whole thing up.

I’m totally fine with the defensive overhaul though. The Raiders defense was just embarrassingly bad for a lot of the year.

Before they pull that trigger. No matter if you want Hue gone, who’s gonna replace him? Are you holding out for Chucky cuz there’s no real indication he’d be back other than rumors. Winston Moss? It’d just be another noob coach making noob mistakes which some of you hate so much. Pick somebody good and decide what the likelihood of that guy being brought in is. Otherwise, we’re just playing musical chairs with coaches.

As a head coach, you are responsible for both ends of the ball. I have to say, I have never seen such a sprry denfensive Raider unit in my life…makes me perturbed just thinking about it. When u have a season where every one of your victories had the opponant an opportunity for a game winning drive LITERALLY in the last 2 minutes of the game is pretty bad. I’ve said to myself, we were 3 defensive plays away from an 11-5 record. HOWEVER, WERE ALSO 8 DEFENSIVE PLAYS FROM BEING A 0-16 TEAM. THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE WATCHED THE ENTIRE SEASON SHOULD AGREE.

then who do we hire?

Moss, the Packers’ linebackers coach since 2006, interviewed for the Raiders’ vacant head-coach position in 2009, but the job went to Tom Cable.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_19698585