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While Honoring Al Davis' Legacy, Oakland Raiders Taking the Identity of New Regime

Earlier in the week I made a post questioning Reggie McKenzie's hiring of Dennis Allen as well as some of Allen's own choices to fill his coaching staff. Someone even went as far as to dismiss it as mere negativity. While some reserve the right to take my words and construe them into whatever conclusion that they may, I sustain my undying allegiance to this team and organization. I am so passionate about the Raiders I will never apologize for sharing my opinions about whatever shortcomings I believe need to be addressed. With that said, some recent coaching hires along with a player cut has forced me to show the patience a new GM and coaching staff deserve.

Star-divide

I would like to start off by acknowledging a huge oversight by dismissing the hiring of Ted Gilmore as wide receivers' coach. For years I've been calling for Sanjay Lal's firing only to be met with cricket-chirping disregard by all. In one season Gilmore helped mentor Robert Woods into an All-American and even more impressively help lead Marquise Lee into a Freshman All-American. What makes this feat even more fascinating is the fact he had to report to that visor-wearing chode Lane Kiffin on a daily basis. I'm not surprised he accepted the opportunity to work with a football mind the caliber of Dennis Allen as soon as it was presented to him. Another big hire that many presume is the return of the dark ages is Frank Pollack as O-line coach. There are several factors that are being overlooked. One is Frank Pollack is not a wife-beating, Curly Howard look-alike that will ever get his hands on running the franchise into the ground. Another is while many Raiders fanatics consider the one-two punch of Dmac and Bush as the best in the league, where Pollack just came from in Houston boasts a higher yardage per game and per carry average combo with Foster and Tate. Also by retaining Al Saunders and Steve Wisniewski, Pollack and newly-hired Greg Knapp can do nothing but recognize what the offense did best and instill that into this new-look Raiders offensive jugernaut. Finally, Knapp and Pollack will be inheriting a huge upgrade in the passing game going from the seemingly, always injured Matt Schaub and T.J. Yates to a motivated and criticism-driven Carson Palmer. This makes for must-see TV as soon as training camp unfolds.

Lastly with a new defensive-minded personnel-department and coaching staff comes the dual acquisitions of Jason Tarver as DC and former Packer-player and Houston Texans' LB coach Johnny Holland as new Raiders LB coach. I agree with the rest of the mob by saying the firing of Yes-man Bresnahan automatically improves the team's overall defensive ranking in points and yardage allowed from 29th to somewhere in the 25-27 range alone. Now while the hiring of Stanford coach Tarver and the release of league leader in penalties, Stanford Routt may not improve the defensive ranking beyond 25th; it will most definitely force this team into being much more disciplined and no longer among the league's worst in penalties. In what I believe is the best addition to the coaching staff, Johnny Holland as linebackers coach will finally allow the likes of Kam Wimbley, Rolando McClain, and Aaron Curry to truly realize their potential they were expected, coming out of FSU, Alabama, and Wake Forest. This man has helped develop the likes of Demeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, and Brooks Reed into one of the league's best units. As for the players already on the roster, while I never can see Carson Palmer as a Super Bowl MVP, I can truly visualize Darren McFadden running into the night ala Marcus Allen in Super Bowl 18. Now, it's your turn, Nation! Which move do you believe is the best of the off-season so far? Also in the comments section, I want to know why you think so.

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Which move is the best so far in restructuring the Oakland Raiders?
Reggie McKenzie as GM
921 votes
Dennis Allen as HC
109 votes
Jason Tarver as DC
67 votes
Retaining Al Saunders as an Asst.
300 votes
Stanford Routt's release
180 votes
Frank Pollack as O-line Coach
3 votes
Johnny Holland as LB Coach
12 votes
Ted Gilmore as WR Coach
14 votes

1606 votes | Poll has closed

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Bres was so bad that literally anyone would have been an improvement. Even a retread average joe schmoe like a manusky. But I was thrilled they didn’t go this route. Read up a lot on tarver and this guy is just an impressive, smart, driven guy. Add that Dennis will likely be a co DC of sorts and I am super excited to see an NFL defense in the 510 for the first time in years.

by lchristmas on Feb 11, 2012 5:41 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

+20

THE GUY SEEMS LIKE HE IS GOING TO CHANGE OUR CULTURE ON DEFENSE

by tatum25 on Feb 16, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

McKenzie is without question the key move. From that one vital acquision all the other flow. Reggie is both the Principal and the Principle

of the Raiders now, the wellspring bring new abundant life to the withered tree – though with still strong roots… if little else.

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 11, 2012 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

well said

poetic metaphor… our roots are the strongest, but this tree hath not produced the fruit it’s destined to for many a season and its time hath come again.

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"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.

by brhynno on Feb 12, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Allen

At least we finally got a defensive minded coach. Reggie hasn’t done anything yet that a random Sports Business degree guy couldn’t have done.

by rightnasty on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

... 'could have done" is what many of our underachieving starters did not do. "Doing and Did" are the operative words and

Reggie “did” bring in a young determined defensive HC … he could have done what random Sports Business degree guy could have done and hired a known recycled retread (“played it safe”) like most situated teams continually do. The fact that most of us were momentarily surprised by the Allen indicates it was not a hum-drum conventional decision.

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"Let no thing possess you that you do not dictate." Raymond St. Martin

by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 12, 2012 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with that, that's why I voted for Reggie

I seriously doubt we would have Allen in place otherwise. Also really liking the hire of Tarver after watching him talk about his philosophy.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Feb 12, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Surprise?

I was pretty surprised when Cable was made head coach despite almost no experience. A lot of people were surprised when Tom Walsh was called out of his bed and breakfast to come back and coach. And going even farther back, Gruden being traded was a pretty big surprise too. What’s in a surprise, especially where this team is concerned?

But seriously, hiring a defensive minded coach was a no brainer for anybody who noticed just how bad the D was last year. I’d really like to know how certain players can get on your shit list and stay there for all eternity, but an unproven commodity like Reggie warrants blind devotion.

by rightnasty on Feb 12, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Also Even Though Reggie Said It's The "HC"s Decission On His Staff I Don't Project That To mean It Was "Reggie Keep Your Nose Out"!!!!

I’m quite sure that Reggie and Allen worked together to acquire the bast they could find…When some of Allan’s choices were tied up and unavailable I suspect Reggie gave him a few alternatives to look at…

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Feb 12, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm of a mind to not even bother trying to figure out the machinations of the Oakland Head-shed....

Am following the coaching changes and personnel changes (Routt) with a huge grain of salt, and patience.
The last season of volatility, and roller coaster ins and stupid losses really were draining.
Just going to chill and not fly off the handle until we start the season….with a full camp, new and old personnel in camp, and how we execute in our first couple of games. Luckily, the Raiders play in Charlotte and Baltimore, and I am right in the middle of both so thete are at leadt 2 roadtrips on my plate.
There’s also just too much bullshit in here….

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

No Bada Brada....Speculatory Of Da Finest Kind Brah!!...

I actually love this time of year because a fella can pull almost anything out of his ass and be half assed right???

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Feb 12, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit, why boddah you?

what come out da okole halfways, probly fit bettah gone back in.

The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....

by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Feb 12, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Your Opinions Haven't Exacty Been Very Solid..Kinda Like You Got The Runs At Times!!!..

Perhaps a rectal enema would help wash out your animosity against folks just wanting to voice their hopes in the off-season???

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Feb 14, 2012 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Heh

Think bullshit is probably the sports fan’s caviar. It used to just up and down the bar, now it’s over the internet, people logging in from all over the planet.

by rightnasty on Feb 12, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

BlacKHeartSilverEyes, ya live on the east coast?

Very cool. My brother lives in NY, but it would be great to hook up with a Raider fan in the fall. Gotta bring the ole lady, So hopefully you got one too. They need somebody to talk with. haha.

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by astrosmurf on Feb 12, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn't be surprised if our first pick of the draft is a DE\DT just because I find it hard to fathom Reggie McKenzie agreeing to pay Dick that much this year.

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by TAW on Feb 12, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

McKenzie just committed to Seymour

deadline in his contract passed, so his contract is 100% guaranteed> $15 million; but I could see Reggie keeping Richard for trade value at the trade deadline; there will be many playoff contenders willing to take Richard for the 2nd half of the season and only having to pay half his contract. Raiders could recoup a 3rd to 5th rounder for him.

by rnpljnsn on Feb 12, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that yesterday.

Whether Kelly, Hendo, or Seymour stay of go all are rather old and limited. I still could see more D-line help via the draft or free agency heading our way.

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by TAW on Feb 13, 2012 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it's time to give Houston a look at DT in a 4-3 setting

His abilities as a DE are decent but not great for the most part. He was fairly invisible this season which can be looked at in good and bad ways.

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Feb 13, 2012 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I've wanted Houston back a DT for a while that's his natural spot...

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by samiam2112 on Feb 13, 2012 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Dennis Allen and Jason Tarver will most likely move Houston around the line where he will help this team best.

I could definitely see him at times at DE and possibly in 3rd down and long ydg at DT which may prove to help the pass rush immeasurably along with Matt Schaunessey’s return. I just watched his press conference for the first time as well as listening to his interview which followed. I am really psyched to have this staff together and can’t wait to see how much has translated onto the field starting with the preseason.

Trust No One
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"Talent without discipline is like an octopus on roller skates. There's plenty of movement, but you never know if it's going to be forward, backwards, or sideways."
— H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

by TAW on Feb 13, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I went with Reggie

As others have said, he’s the key to the whole thing. And until we see some results on the field I can’t really say too much about the coaching staff.

by Chris2814 on Feb 12, 2012 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

REGGIE! REGGIE! REGGIE!

without this all-important hire, we could not be doing what we are doing right now, and I’m loving what getting young and fiery albeit unproven (everyone starts somewhere) at this level guys like Tarver and Allen say about the direction in which we’re headed. We’re all fully aware that we could use some discipline, and should trust McKenzie who received ringing endorsements from the likes of Wolf, Madden, and Herock and many of the other most well-respected voices in the league that this man knows what it takes.

Will be happy with all personnel decisions? Not immediately by any means; we’ve of course become attached with certain players, and will certainly not agree with all of them, but I believe we’ll all be happy with the results it produces.

It probably won’t happen as fast as we’d like it to either, but I believe at least the horrible repetition of the same mistakes and shooting ourselves in the foot will show that we’ve hired the right people to right the ship.

I only hope it doesn’t change us beyond recognition. I’m already anticipating looking completely different in identity on the defensive side of the ball, but after last season’s playing without one, I’m all for it.

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.

by brhynno on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

In My Opinion We Completely Lost Our "D" Identity This Past Season Which Resulted In Our Demise!!

We got away from everything we do best…“M-M” Press and the Pass Rush of Death!!

Partially due I suppose to injury but also due to pure stupidity!!!

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Close

RMAC 1a
Allen 1b
Saunders 1c

by Mallard Davis on Feb 12, 2012 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

You missed Tarver and Holland

they might fix our LB problem and if that happens this team, especially the defense, is light years better

by SmashmouthFB on Feb 12, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Taw...I Have Also Been Calling For "Sad-Day-Lie"s Head So Your Not Alone!!!

“OL”…According to one report which I rather like we will be using the “ZBS” on running plays NOT entirely…So this should help our run game and the retention of our "RB"s coach is also be an advantageous opportunity to shine…

The passing game than will still employ the “PBS” which was so effective in pass protection…Definitely a plus!!

Knapp is the Running game Coordinator and few believe he can’t run a great Rushing “O”…He also has some good qualities working with "QB"s which may translate very well to my boy Pryor who can RUN!!!…Knapp worked with Vick and made him productive before he was productive…

Al Saunders will continue on with his Passing Attack integrated into the “Run-1st” style of “O” that Knapp runs…We were already a “Run 1st” style “O” recently but at times slacked and got away from what we did best…Run that “Pig” down their throats…This will prolley not be the case again as we get real committed to the run…

I’m also hoping for a reemergence of the “TE” in OakTown…Hue got well away from that this past season for some unknown reason at a time when injuries should have dictated that the “TE” be active…

Our young "WR"s have some real talent and now it should come forth and illuminate the sky with aerial assaults of the finest kind…Accurate timing routs that correspond to "CP3"s targeting sights and howitzer arm…Enough to keep the "DC"s from crowding the box to diminish the run…

Palmer/Pryor
“D-Mac”/Bush/“TJ”/Reece
Boss/Ausberry/Myer
“DHB”/Moore/Ford/Chaz/

Lots of weapons is what this team has…If we can get them all productive at the same time who will there be to stop us???….Except ourselves!!!

"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Feb 12, 2012 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

You bring up a good point with the TE position panty.

A team that had the likes of Dave Casper, Todd Christensen, Ethan Horton, and Zach Miller didn’t get crap form the TE position last year. In fact two of our best plays to them were on fake FGs and ONE WAS CALLED BACK FOR DELAY OF GAME!!! I would not be surprised if Reggie goes in a different direction what with Boss’ $16 million contract and being pretty much invisible in the passing game. We need more from that position this year whether its Kevin Boss or somebody else.

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— H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

by TAW on Feb 12, 2012 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

Boss wasn't invisible.

It’s just that we had other viable options in the passing game.
I am still enraged over some of his key drops, and he’s always concussed, so I do agree he needs to be paid a tad less.

Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.

by ROFLCOPTER16 on Feb 12, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Boss earns his money for more then catching passes

He’s like a lineman in the run game. He’s a bulldozer and worth every single penny on that alone.

And he only really had one bad game with the drops against Miami. Other then that he caught it when it was thrown to him.

The real reason the TE disappeared is because we no longer have a QB that makes one read and checks it down every single time. Palmer isn’t scared of checking downfield to all his options before dumping the ball down. But in the red zone Palmer went to him plenty because on those plays he’s the first option.

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by TheDudeAbides138 on Feb 12, 2012 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow I don't see it TheDude.

Unless he’s listed 2nd on the depth chart at LT in case Veldheer goes down along with being our #1 TE maybe then I would think you could justify paying him $2 mill this season & $16 mill over 4 yrs but right now he needs to restructure or get cut IMO. His production just doesn’t warrant that salary at all.

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"Talent without discipline is like an octopus on roller skates. There's plenty of movement, but you never know if it's going to be forward, backwards, or sideways."
— H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

by TAW on Feb 15, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

No football hoy amigos and amigas

BUT The Walking Dead is back on!

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 12, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

I voted for Mr. Mckenzie.

Wasn’t too excited about the Allen hire, but I have faith in both he and Reggie’s vision.

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 12, 2012 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

*his

"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur
"The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner in the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see you've got them. Because they'll laugh in your face of an explanation then which portrays the big picture of what's happenin'
... and they have."
"Lots of people in America know that the system is fucked up. All of them know it. I think everybody in this country knows the government’s corrupt. They’re conscious of it, but they’re not gonna do a fucking thing about it. There are people that will, and me, I consider those people revolutionary"- Immortal Technique

by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 12, 2012 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

I voted Reggie!!

So far he has done the things he said he would that’s all you can expect from a man.

I feel he is letting Allen pick his staff he may be making suggestions, but there is a lot of new blood coming to Oakland. It will be exciting to see what happens to the roster and the last few spots on the coaching staff…

Combine coming up!

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by samiam2112 on Feb 12, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

Raiders hiring Mr. Reggie McKenzie

period!

[okay so I used an exclamation point].

by rnpljnsn on Feb 12, 2012 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

it appears

our secondary will be a more zone oriented unit; this should help the defense in run support and increase interceptions

by rnpljnsn on Feb 12, 2012 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Reggie is obviously the biggest move

It’s impossible to really have a defined opinion on the moves at this point.

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by Ozraider on Feb 12, 2012 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

Welcome back Oz hopefully the move went well!

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by samiam2112 on Feb 12, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah man thanks :)

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by Ozraider on Feb 13, 2012 12:42 AM PST up reply actions  

always sucks moving all m your shit but its done now!

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by Ozraider on Feb 13, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Moving is always lousy!!

Going home had top at least help!

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by samiam2112 on Feb 13, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

second the welcome back. and back home, of course!

looking forward to this upcoming draft, despite not seemingly having many picks. This one will be fun to watch, no doubt.

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"In football, I root for the Oakland Raiders because they hire castoffs, outlaws, malcontents, and fuck -ups, they have lots of penalties, fights, and paybacks, and because Al Davis told the rest of the pig NFL owners to go get fucked. Someday, the Raiders will be strong again, and they will dip the ball in shit and shove it down the throats of the wholesome, white, heartland teams that pray together and don't deliver late hits." - George Carlin.

by brhynno on Feb 12, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Brhy! :)

Yeah I always love the draft regardless and I have a feeling that Regge has some aces up his sleeve with that aswell.

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by Ozraider on Feb 13, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

This team has almost no traces of Al Davis left

not that they (marky mark) haven’t tried. Keeping Saunders is by far the the best move, because he is a veteran coach with lots of knowledge and you don’t just fire a guy like that. I wish John Hererra would leave though, that guy is a total dick.

PS
Why don’t the raiders wear alternate jerseys?
( AFL White/silver numbers, White/yellow numbers, AFL Black/ alternate silver numbers, silver jersey)
The least mark could do is that…

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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Feb 12, 2012 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

Besides the players.

but the season doesn’t start for a while, things will continue to change.

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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Feb 12, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Thought so.

Yeah, the times they are a-changing and all that. Not such a bad thing; Al’s defense was outdated and Panda’s was Swiss Cheese. Me likey Al’s vertical game though.

Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.

by ROFLCOPTER16 on Feb 12, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

not outdated

just full of shitstains who don’t put forth any effort.
$$$ blocks their “talent”

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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Feb 12, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

he loves the super low draft picks

but we have nothing to really give. him and his hoodie shall go wanting…

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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Feb 12, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

we just cut rout

Bill always snags our ex-secondary hence moore

by SmashmouthFB on Feb 12, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

i think he will pass on this silver and black hand-me-down

because dropping him has actually a sound decision.

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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Feb 12, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Routt

Will be a band-aid on a shotgun wound. they might focus on WRs now.

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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Feb 12, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

hopefully Belicheck signs Routt

and cuts Moore, so we could resign him

by rnpljnsn on Feb 12, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

we can do better.

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by DEBACLE OF MASS ERUPTION. on Feb 12, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I sure hope Allen can bring this team together on both sides of the ball with discipline and execution

I like some of the coaching moves if they pan out, but i believe it takes years to really put together a complete staff of quality coaches that work well together and even then teams are always poaching. We haven’t been able to do this in a long time , so im excited to see how things come together over the next few years. It all lands on Allens shoulders whether he can put together the right plan both offensively and defensively and make his coaching staff and players make it happen. Im glad they haven’t brought back woodson for the secondary. I think we all wanted to see him succeed cause he was such a bad ass, but man are Dbacks were absolutely terrible and it seemed like a direct reflection on the coaching.

by Sonoma County Raider fan on Feb 12, 2012 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

None of the above

None of the above. These all seem to be bridesmaids to me when we need brides. I’m getting sick of “lets give this guy a chance” bullshit. The risk/reward isn’t good. It’s cheaper to give a guy a promotion from another team cuz your giving them entry level $ but c’mon. It is a crap shoot. Why couldn’t we get proven people at the positions hired for?! It seems to me, we have a “Commitment to Mediocrity”. How many freshman coaches does Raider Nation have to endure? Al is dead, we should have went after a marquee HC. Instead we went after a GM. That is replacing Al, instead of finally getting away from the dysfunctional top heavy interference model. I hope I have to eat my words but I doubt it.

by RickyMojo on Feb 13, 2012 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

Who are these proven HCs we should have gone after?

Because most the proven HCs are either with teams that are winning (and thus would have no reason to leave) or are retired and don’t seem that interested in coming back. Not to mention, it’s pretty rare that a retired HC comes back and has the same kind of success he did earlier. The only HC out there this offseason seemed to be Jeff Fisher. And while he had a good record with the Titans, in his 16 or 17 seasons as HC he still never won the big one (no matter how close they came that one season).

So I’m just curious as to who, exactly, we were supposed to get.

by Chris2814 on Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Other than Knapp as OC...been prettty happy with the coaching additions

Tarver is a bit of an unknown as he’s never been a play caller before but hopefully with Allen’s guidance and Tarver’s brains…he can succeed.

It’s great that we were able to retain Saunders…his presence makes the sting of bringing back “Knapp time” a little less painful. I hope Saunders is more of a passing game coordinator from Knapp.

The assistants we’ve been able to find so far are really going to help this team out…Allen has found some serious talent there.

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by Buster Bluth on Feb 13, 2012 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

Radiers have hired Texas A&M DL coach Terrell Williams for the same position

Texas A&M had the 12th ranked rush D in the nation last year…30th the year before…and plain old awful the year before that. Williams took over just 2 years ago so his impact looks fairly impressive.

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by Buster Bluth on Feb 13, 2012 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

The WR coach was a good pick,

and keeping the Niewsk is smart.

All other picks are wait and see at best, and pretty uninspiring so far.

by xville on Feb 13, 2012 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Oakland hired Mark Hutson to be their TE coach over the weekend from Tulane.

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by TAW on Feb 13, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

“He must play smarter to be effective at the NFL level. His draft projections are all over the map and current projections have him coming off the board somewhere in Round 3. His play has been only average over the past two seasons at Arizona State. Burfict could be available for the Raiders despite the hype. " (bleacher report) Is it possibrruu that he can slide down that far? I dont think so.

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by RaiderKilluminati on Feb 13, 2012 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

Burfict will not be there when the Raiders draft unless they trade for a higher pick...

He will go late 2nd early 3rd he will blow up after the combine…

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by samiam2112 on Feb 13, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya he will impress at the combine and soldfy himself as a 2nd rounder

He’s somewhat of a gamble but the guy hits pretty hard and plays aggressive.

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by Buster Bluth on Feb 14, 2012 4:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I went with routt

Just for spite. I hated watching this secondary, and it seemed that on every pass that number 26 was facing the wrong way, just behind the play. Plus i think it sends a message to the rest of the team that things are changing, and they had better step it up.

by qwazilla on Feb 14, 2012 5:20 AM PST reply actions  

I remember being at the Lions game and he (Routt) makes a good play against Megatron in the endzone

preventing a TD and the guys behind me say “he’s good for ONE play a game” and I laughed ‘cause it was true, he always got flagged, gave up a big play, but every once in a while came up with a big stop, pass deflection, an INT, whatever and suddenly you went "he’s not that bad" but sadly he was…

Surely we can do better than him…

by Raider Roy on Feb 14, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

On The Wire: Seymoure Restructure Will Add Even More Cap Space...
Raiders | Have some cap wiggle room

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:50:57 -0800

As of Sunday, Feb. 12, the Oakland Raiders had $3.23 million in excess salary cap space that can be carried over to next year.


Raiders | Cornerback among needs

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:42:59 -0800

Cornerback and linebacker are among the positions the Oakland Raiders must dramatically upgrade in the offseason.


Raiders | Could pursue Cortland Finnegan

Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:10:46 -0800

The Oakland Raiders could make a play for Tennessee Titans impending free-agent CB Cortland Finnegan, according to a league source.

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by PantyRaider on Feb 14, 2012 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

LB & CB upgrade? No shit, we've been begging for that and ended up with Renaldo. Still, Curry is a good beginning but we need

much more help in the 2nd Row and 90% wouldn’t dispute that.

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 14, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If Blowlando McLame is the smartest player he's ever coached Nick Saban is the dumbest coach ever!

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by samiam2112 on Feb 14, 2012 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Voted Reggie

Because I don’t think we’ll know for sure about the other hires (save retaining Saunders) until the season unfolds.

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by LoveItHateIt on Feb 14, 2012 10:50 AM PST reply actions  


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