As the Raiders move back to zone blocking, McFadden must be traded

by RdrsNeedaStablerQB on Feb 8, 2012 10:20 AM PST

It pains me to say it, but our best player could very well be out the door by April. He just never really got the zone-blocking scheme instilled by Tom Cable--it wasn't until Hue Jackson arrived and transitioned to power blocking that he broke out. For this reason, Michael Bush must be kept and McFadden must go.

There are many possible teams that could bite on McFadden. Cleveland has two first round picks, and while I don't think McFadden is quite worth a first round pick on his own, Cleveland could get desperate and trade us their later pick (22 overall). That could allow us to get one of the top five corner prospects (Dre Kirkpatrick, Janoris Jenkins, or Alfonzo Dennard are most likely at this pick IMO). This, however, is unlikely, because I think the Browns will select Trent Richardson with the fourth overall pick, eliminating their need for a running back.

Another possible team to trade with would be Indianapolis. While it is almost a shoe-in that they select Andrew Luck with the first overall pick, they still have the first pick of the second round. This pick, packaged with a fourth or fifth rounder, could be traded to the Raiders as Indianapolis needs a better running back to open things up for Luck. This is also unlikely to happen, as Indianapolis will probably want to draft their own players in their rebuilding phase.

This brings me to the third and most likely option: the New York Jets. They need a better running back, as Shonn Greene just isn't the answer for the Ground and Pound offense that Rex Ryan wants. While their position of 16th overall is a little high for McFadden's value, I believe that Michael Huff could also be added into the equation. The jets need safety help, and Huff would be the perfect option for them. I say send Huff and McFadden to New York for a first and second rounder and call it a day.

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here we go again

Simply: NO….DO-YOU-GET-IT?

by RaiderPride20 on Feb 8, 2012 11:44 AM PST reply actions

I'm still confused

No just kidding

by KOwens06 on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions

Thanks for the input Reggie Mckenzie

Good the General Manager for the Oakland Raiders is a member here!

by Raider08 on Feb 9, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions

Do YOU get it?

McFadden can’t zone run to save his life.

by RdrsNeedaStablerQB on Feb 9, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions

Lets trade a 24 year old with mvp talent

Maybe we can fleece the browns out of that #22 pick and draft some dt depth

Are you fucking kidding?

by lchristmas on Feb 8, 2012 6:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions

trading dmc not a good move

yeah trade him to new england for a first round that might never work, hand them a couple more rings or any other team.

by vraidernation on Feb 8, 2012 8:01 PM PST reply actions

Another fng troll post!

Is this KC McDermady the yahoo contributor this is the level of drivel she writes!

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by samiam2112 on Feb 8, 2012 9:50 PM PST reply actions

Ridiculous

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by LoveItHateIt on Feb 9, 2012 10:06 AM PST reply actions

I think Mcfadden should be traded as well

As much of a bad ass as he is, I think he is actually too intense of a runner, and continuing injuries almost guaranteed. You watch him run and its like he wants to score and “break one” every time he touches the ball. This seems, at face value to be a great attribute of a running back, but I think his intensity level could be brought down, just a peg or two, and he STILL would be a top 5 RB in the league and NOT get injured. But this is assuming that you can train a Racing horse to shoot Place or merely show in stead of always racing to win, I don’t think it can happen. His intensity level is instinctive, ingrained, and unfortunately I don’t think he’ll ever achieve his potential. McFadden’s Days are numbered, if you cant except that, then your in complete denial.

an example of a similar player under similar circumstances:
Adrian Peterson : 5 years rushing in NFL : 6752 yards TORN ACL AND MCL career prob over.
the opposite of this trend.:
Emmit Smith: equally talented, yet more patient runner , 15 seasons, 18355 yards, 7183 yards in first 5 seasons.

McFadden is like Peterson, in that, while he is explosive and has put up great number initially, he lacks the patience and awareness of injury to have a long career, like emiit smith.

Im throwing Emmit in themix to make a point. I think peterson and mcfadden could potentially be (or could have been) emmitt level RBs, but there intensity level will shorten both their careers. Same thing might be said about Bo Jacksons short lived career.

by Toolshed1485 on Feb 9, 2012 11:19 AM PST reply actions

you are an idiot

Can you say Charles Woodson??

by RaiderPride20 on Feb 9, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions

Cool dude he has a different opinion than you.

Doesnt mean you need to rage because someone disagrees with your thinking.

by Raider08 on Feb 9, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions

Emmit Smith was a solid back who benefitted form an insanely great O-Line and a great supporting cast,,,

Emmit Smith: equally talented, yet more patient runner , 15 seasons, 18355 yards, 7183 yards in first 5 seasons.

Emmit smith would have been a journeyman on any other team… Not even in the talent level with AP or McFadden…

if any of the other backs form this era played in Dallas like Sanders of Thomas they would have obliterated those numbers put up by Smith. Go watch some only highlights Emit usually had 5 yard gaps to run through this is very flawed logic IMO.

McFadden has 6 years of prime playing time left… We only need a few great seasons to have a chance.

Adrian Peterson : 5 years rushing in NFL : 6752 yards TORN ACL AND MCL career prob over.

Lol AP will play next year his career aint over yet…

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by samiam2112 on Feb 9, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions

Yes for those reasons and the fact we need to sign Michael Bush (our most dependable back)

From a value standpoint to lose MB for nothing and keep DMC would be risky at best. Also Tiwan has a lot of potential and needs to get on the field. Get a first and a third, or a first and a fourth, and lets give our DC something to work with.

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by RUKidding on Feb 9, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions

Toolshed, I agree with you to a point. I agree DMC needs to be a more patient runner especially in a zone blocking scheme. DMC runs angry and I like the score on evry play mentality but in a zone blocking scheme he will need to be patient and allow is blocks to develop and look for that crease. I don’t think AP’s career is over, reports say that he is far ahead schedule for a return early in the season next year.

by Big_Houn on Feb 10, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions

wow !!!!

You really think McFeezy isn’t worth a middle to high 1st round pick ???? No more comments are worth even thinking about for this post !!!

by papabegood on Feb 9, 2012 12:16 PM PST reply actions

I say that

Because teams will look at all of his injuries and think that it’s too big of a risk.

by RdrsNeedaStablerQB on Feb 9, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions

+1

by RUKidding on Feb 9, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions

McFadden

If the line opens up holes, McFadden will run through them. 2010 was also the first year I saw any burst and power out of mCFadden, but not everything can be attributed to the power blocking. Sometimes young players just put the pieces together. I’m willing to risk more than a potential late 1st/ early 2nd round pick to see if that’s the case.

by youreallcrazy on Feb 9, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions

rookie rbs usually have to adjust to the speed of the defense in the nfl and trust their lineman more

college has a lot of spread offenses and option reads so a lot of them rely on cutbacks and doing it on their own rather than using the linemen

by dawad34 on Feb 9, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions

lmao, i got this in the beginning, lmao again

by sports with steve on Feb 10, 2012 10:45 AM PST reply actions

Somebody already said it in another thread

Probably just best to let Darren finish out his contract and see where he is at that point.

by rightnasty on Feb 10, 2012 3:23 PM PST reply actions

While there is some truth to McFadden's success primarily coming from power blocking plays designed to get him full steam and one cut to the house

I would absolutely hate to see him go. That said, I’ve been in fear all along that McKenzie will absolutely entertain any and all offers for Darren, not necessarily from a monetary standpoint, but from one of necessity in the upcoming draft and to fill positions with guys he deems appropriate.

I hope he sees Darren as part of the future, because if he doesn’t, he’s probably already gone.

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by brhynno on Feb 10, 2012 6:25 PM PST reply actions

Ludacris thanking.

You don’t give up your homerun player for anything great high caliber talent is hard to find coaches adjust to the players the players just have to be committed, trading McFadden is like the pats trading Brady because they have a new Oc, what sense that makes?

by FloridaRaider on Feb 19, 2012 12:31 AM PST via Android app reply actions

whydoes everyone think taiwan jones can replace mcfadden? one of the reasons bush was wore down by seasons end was jones was hurt himself and i dont know when or how he got hurt with about 5 car last year. yea mcfadden didn’t do well in the zbs, partially cause as a rookie he had that turf toe injury and i think, well i know we rushed him back too soon. this kid can run can run in any system, just watch and see. trading him would be totally dumb.

by massillonraider on Feb 20, 2012 1:42 PM PST reply actions