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You knew as soon as the Wells report came out, either the Patriots fans were going to go on a 'told you so' tour or a 'this is bulls#!t' tour depending on the results. Well, the results came back and it don't look so good for Tom Brady as the investigation found a pretty good amount of evidence that suggested he ordered the his ball to be deflated for games.

If you're looking for some entertainment, just go to any Patriots message board or comment section reporting the findings and watch the fans spin until they vomit. That's what I did, and the priceless responses it yielded were not to be kept to myself. You deserve to get a seat at this show too, so here you go.

Disclaimer: I use "guy" here as a general term, not an assumption of gender.

First up, the most common sentiment that was said in vein repetition - 'Move along, nothing to see here.'

There is no actual conclusion. Just Speculation.

So 243 pages of nothing, and a very rich Mr. Wells.

Flying Elvis? Yes please.

by flowzu on May 6, 2015 | 10:16 AM reply

Then, of course, 'He did it all the time, but it was because they were all OVERinflated' mmhmm.

Deflating a football isn't illegal

Maybe he has to consistently deflate the ball from being overinflated to fit what they should be at prior to ever handing them to the refs? There's at least evidence to point towards that as they talk about the balls being up to 16 PSI. That's more than can be said about deflating them to be below the minimum.

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by indy pats fan on May 6, 2015 | 11:17 AM up reply

Then there's these guys who use a misunderstanding of how these documents must be worded as basis for skepticism (this is a common theme among the comments).

But not Tom Brady

Such BS. They couldn't prove anything so they just added this "more probable than not" BS so it seemed less like a gigantic waste of time and money.

by b1adesofcha0s on May 6, 2015 | 10:22 AM up reply

But who needs actual EVIDENCE???

So ticked right now

Keep the faith!

by Marima on May 6, 2015 | 10:31 AM up reply

And of course the conspiracy theorist using some "what if"s as his argument.

Here comes the

"CHEATRIOTS", "Ban the New England Patriots from the NFL and strip them of their SB49", and "Tom Brady needs to cheat to win" haters!!

What if it's done by the Colts ballboy and management trying to frame the Patriots? Cuz that's what I seriously think.

Oh well, 45-7 deflated balls or not!

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by SparzWizard on May 6, 2015 | 10:25 AM reply

Another guy who thinks the 243-page (quite thorough) investigation found nothing worth noting. Also oddly holds the claim to fame of being the first member of that blog to buy the jersey of a player who has since been cut by the Patriots and is currently on the Raiders.

so it's just a ticky tack inconclusive hogwash

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by cruelangelT on May 6, 2015 | 10:27 AM reply

Then there's this guy who says he "covers" the Patriots for several sites but is really just a pom pom waving fanboy apparently applying to be Tom Brady's new ball handler (I also find the third tweet here to be quite ironic).

These guys trying to say the locker room attendant who deflated the balls calling himself "the deflator" meant nothing. Apparently he was receiving autographed merchandise and shoes from Tom Brady (per the same text in the report) for just doing his menial and completely within the rules job. Tom Brady should change his name to Oprah "You get several autographed balls and shoes, YOU get several autographed balls and shoes. EVERYBODY gets several autographed balls and shoes! (And evidence is for haters.)

This is not damning at all for Brady unless you're a hater

The "deflator" is most likely because he lowered the PSI of the footballs BEFORE they turned them into the officials for inspection, because Brady likes the footballs at their lowest possible limit.

This is only a big deal because it's the Patriots. The officials don't even measure or record the PSI of the freaking balls! Quarterbacks are nutty, insane, and want complete control of the footballs that they will be gripping during a game. Just ask Aaron Rodgers, who OVER inflates his footballs every game.

Yeesh.

Eat it, haters.

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by jamiesinnott on May 6, 2015 | 11:51 AM up reply

No

they know Brady instructed McNally to prep the balls. Part of that preparation is probably taking some air out. Nowhere does it say Brady instructed him to make the balls less than legally inflated. It is entirely likely that he deflates to the bottom of the pressure range.

by Ghu55 on May 6, 2015 | 10:42 AM up reply

Yes, nowhere does it say that Brady instructed them to deflate the balls below the legal limit

he may have asked them to take the balls down to exactly 12.5 and no more, in which case he did nothing wrong

by poindexterregan on May 6, 2015 | 10:50 AM up reply

The "language" always says what you want it to say. Everyone knows that.

The language shows 3 things to me

1. Wells had nothing
2. They had an agenda
3. They are afraid of the Pats sueing them

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by frogfromthemud on May 6, 2015 | 10:51 AM up reply

And of course, this report is just the league out to keep the Patriots who have had continued success.... from having continued success This one makes my head hurt a little.

Then you haven't been paying attention.

This was never going to break the Patriots' way. That's not how this league works. They throw up road blocks in front of any continued success. It works on most teams. It doesn't work on the Patriots so they keep trying.

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by Hometown Gyro on May 6, 2015 | 11:22 AM up reply

If all else fails, just act like all the league has is a couple "ball boys" chopping it up about ball pressure.

The report is so dumb. So they found that the Pats did nothing wrong as an org but it's their fault because two ball boys were talking about ball pressure

Nothing in the text suggests the attendants deflate them below the legal level. Even Brady's "involvement" is some ambigious messages of Brady asking the balls to be at what he wanted it...which could be well within the legal limits. All we know from the Texts was that Brady was probably unhappy with overinflated balls and messaged the attendants about it. Nothing proves that Brady actually asked him to deflate it below legal levels. How in the world did they draw that conclusion.

by lololol on May 6, 2015 | 10:34 AM reply

How you really know they're out to get you is when they actually use past incidents. And if you can't disprove those findings, just put "facts" in quotation marks.

They couldn't find any evidence regarding the specific game in question so they sifted for "facts" from the past.

It looks like they just ran a keyword search and included anything that even mentioned ball pressure, then pretended those instances, despite legality, added up to something nefarious. The report isn't the conclusion, it's just another piece of the witch hunt. Silly as it ever was.

I hope Kraft gets super-LEGION-pissed and actually does something about it this time. Once was enough with this garbage.

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by Hometown Gyro on May 6, 2015 | 11:31 AM up reply

Just more misunderstanding of the language of the report and its findings.

THEY GOT NO PROOF, but discuss discipline (suspension and/or fine) for Brady!?!?!?!

by game changer on May 6, 2015 | 10:41 AM reply

And a couple more who think suddenly the NFL is run like a court of law. Even though there are mountains of instances that prove otherwise. I await the "Innocent until proven guilty" chestnut. You know it's coming.

Funny. The report can be used for any smear campaign

But any judge would drop it for lack of evidence. If the Patriots would be punished based on this, the NFL would be kicked into the nuts after that.

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"When I won in 2000 (with the Ravens), I owe a lot of that to Bill Belichick." Ozzie Newsome 
"I could probably go out there and read the field decently but I don't think you'd want me playing quarterback" Bill Belichick.

by frogfromthemud on May 6, 2015 | 10:41 AM reply

The "more probable than not" language is not the problem.

Paragraphs like this are:

"Brady has also acknowledged publicly that he likes game balls inflated at the low
end of the permissible range. The inflation level of game balls clearly is important to Brady, as
demonstrated by his reaction when he believed that game balls were inflated at an undesirable
level. In addition, Brady personally was involved in the 2006 rule change that allowed visiting
teams to prepare game balls in accordance with the preferences of their quarterbacks. During the
process of advocating that rule change, it is reasonable to infer that Brady was likely to be (or
become) familiar with the NFL rules regarding game balls, including the 12.5 psi minimum
inflation level, although Brady denies having been aware of Rule 2 or the minimum inflation
level until 2014 (despite approximately fourteen years as an NFL quarterback)."

This is the crux of their evidence against Brady. It is circumstantial, anecdotal, and not grounded in any hard evidence. Brady is going to get hammered in the media over this, and the allegations against him are extremely tenuous. Very disappointing.

by TTP on May 6, 2015 | 10:44 AM reply

Go ahead and hold your breath on this one

If Brady gets disciplined I hope he lawyers up and

sues the absolute shit out of the NFL

by mpclinton22 on May 6, 2015 | 10:49 AM up reply

Hey, look over there!

Which was almost as much a crock of horse shit as this one.

The Jets were caught cheating doing the exact same thing as the Pats a week prior to Spygate, but no one gives a shit about that because no one gives a shit about the Jets.

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by indy pats fan on May 6, 2015 | 11:19 AM up reply

Yes, the length of time it took to put the report together was just so they could find more ways to spew hatred for the Patriots; aka 'uncover more evidence of wrongdoing'.

Nah

just to write the whole thing down.

Takes a long time to wrote intelligible sentences while vitriolically spewing hatred of the Patriots

by Ghu55 on May 6, 2015 | 10:53 AM up reply

Right? Why go through all of this "investigation" stuff. Just give the team or the player or... somebody a meaningless fine, hand over the Lombardi Trophy and move on. What's the big deal?

The punishment for an infraction is a $25,000 fine.

There was no reason for this to go on like it has. They should have immediately just fined both teams $25,000 as both teams had underinflated balls, and moved on. Easy peasy.

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by Hometown Gyro on May 6, 2015 | 11:35 AM up reply

Those BSPN haters who are based in Connecticut and have always given the Patriots and New York teams such a hard time.

So much speculation...

Tom Brady's name is going to be dragged in the dirt throughout the season. This report is pathetic. Really happy I'm boycotting ESPN right now, I can't even imagine the stuff they'll say over then next few weeks.

by Vance09 on May 6, 2015 | 10:50 AM reply

so now they are basically saying brady should have just confessed ...

to what!!!!

by charrisTTU on May 6, 2015 | 10:54 AM reply

Now look over here!

If a Seahawks fan says anything to you

Send this along to them http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/05/05/seattle-seahawks-frank-clark-domestic-violence-investigation I just love how stories like this get such little airtime, but Tom Brady asking his equipment guys to make the footballs more to his liking causes everyone to lose their minds.

by mpclinton22 on May 6, 2015 | 10:54 AM reply

This guy who thinks that slight variations in official gauges negates all subsequent (and previous) findings.

How is it that there is such a big difference in pressure reading for each ball?

The conclusions I see are that 
1) two different gauges that are not in sync
2) one or both of these fellows do not know how to read a gauge
3) both of the above

Wouldn't this make the whole investigation pointless before it even began? So if they used 5 different people with 5 different gauges we might have 5 different readings each? This is the level of NFL science!

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by lurker88 on May 6, 2015 | 11:35 AM up reply

And the ultimate conspiracy theory. The one Patriots ball that caused the Colts to raise the red flag was deflated by the Colts. And I guess therefore somehow caused all the other balls to deflate by association.

Only one ball was initially found to have been significantly underinflated

And it just happened to be the one that the Colts had intercepted and had their equipment guy "hold onto" for a long period of time.

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by indy pats fan on May 6, 2015 | 11:57 AM up reply

Yes, let's just blame those "Dbag" equipment guys for tampering with the ball... as Brady instructed them to do. Dbags, amirite?

Brady

So far I have only seen him being upset at the balls being above the limit. Is there anything that suggests that he asked for them to cheat for him? Or that he was aware that some Dbags were tampering with the ball?

by BostonNate123 on May 6, 2015 | 11:01 AM reply

The best way to win an argument is to ask yourself "ridiculous" questions and answer those questions with complete nonsense.

What a joke....

Yesterday the "investigation was complete", now Wells is writing the report. Now Wells can write a 200+ page report in less than 2 days? Not even close.

Interpretation: Kensil approved the edited version of the report for release yesterday. Politician Goodell made an "I know nothing" announcement.

Ridiculous question: An investigator is supposed to find facts and report them as facts for others to interpret for due process. So why is the first headline announced about the report an opinion without the facts?

Answer: Kensil is controlling the story again. Goodell is letting the tail wag the dog while claiming no involvement.

The only good news in this headline is that hopefully we will all finally see some actual facts.

by showmeonsunday on May 6, 2015 | 11:01 AM reply

Did you know that "cheating" and "breaking a rule" are not the same thing? Just so long as you think the rule is "silly"? Learn something new every day.

Cheating is such a loaded word.

He broke a silly rule. Cheating makes it sound consequential. It wasn't.

by nbradley07 on May 6, 2015 | 11:10 AM up reply

Always best to argue that Brady didn't cheat followed immediately by "We totally cheated... but so what".

Again though, you assume that Brady asked for the football to be deflated below the minimum requirement.

All Brady said that he likes the football more soft then hard. That's it. He didn't tell anyone to deflate the football below the requirement.

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by Jack'sAxe on May 6, 2015 | 11:17 AM up reply

Yeah we totally cheated.

The football being deflated by 1 PSI sure made us win a ton of games. lol

I'll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 6, 2015 | 11:24 AM up reply

And follow THAT up with a comment about how the Patriots are more discriminated against than ANY other team in the league. Even the Raiders... from a guy whose name looks so familiar.

If this was any other team, this would hardly have been an issue.

A ball was 1 PSI under the minimum, and it became the BIGGEST STORY for the weeks leading up to the SUPERBOWL. If this was any other team, there wouldn't even be a league investigation, let alone any sort of story for TWO WEEKS.

This ting has been so inconsequential. Look the nest week the Pats scored 28 points against the best defense since the 2000 Ravens. You would think based on all the news about this that the deflated football had everything to do with Brady's success. lmao

I'll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 6, 2015 | 11:22 AM up reply

Then use Jerry Rice admitting to using a legal substance early in his long and well established career as the greatest receiver of all time as some kind of argument. This is gettin rich.

Jerry Rice admitted to using Stickum.

Do you hear anyone calling him a cheater? No you don't. It became a non-issue in a few days.

I'll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on May 6, 2015 | 11:24 AM up reply

Now look over here!

Really? Give him twice the suspension of a guy who probably raped a woman in a restroom? Justice!

by NE Habs Fan on May 6, 2015 | 11:24 AM up reply

There it is! If you were doing an "Innocent until proven guilty" drinking game, bottoms up. Gotta love the pretend ignorance. Or is it real ignorance? Not sure it matters, really.

Actually you can

Innocent until proven guilty. This report did not prove that Brady or the Patriots cheated. Just that it's probable that some ball guys may have deflated some balls slightly. And that the Colts balls were also under inflated.

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by DPadres69 on May 6, 2015 | 11:22 AM up reply

A New York Jets fan was using details of the report to debunk some Patriot fans claims. So, clearly he should be banned.

Just ban this silly little New Yorker already.

He has added nothing but vitriol.

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by Hometown Gyro on May 6, 2015 | 11:53 AM up reply

No one cares about what most people care about. And the fact that the league cares about its public perception is "mob mentality".

The court of public opinion (also known as the mob mentality)

Is not something anyone cares about here. Nor should they.

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by DPadres69 on May 6, 2015 | 11:24 AM up reply

Someone who doesn't understand how headlines work. Nevermind that it was an accurate headline.

Wow my phone pops up

Yahoo Sports: "Pats equipment handler requested cash, sneakers to deflate balls." Cherry picking headline.

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by kimothy on May 6, 2015 | 11:08 AM reply

And we end with one of your classic straw man arguments.

Many people also believe that the world was created by intelligent design.

The evidence for that was not the strongest, namely some pretty flawed logic.

(Looking at you, St Thomas.)

Peyton Manning is totally Gollum. Old. Huge forehead. Lots of coughing/choking. Forever associated with just one ring. Oh, yes. Peyton Manning is Gollum.

by Mdab5678 on May 6, 2015 | 11:27 AM up reply

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